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Scooter? I own a 1961 Hecules (made in Germany) Moped,I bought it for
$350.00 about twenty three years ago from an elderly guy who bought two
Mopeds for his grand daughters to ride.They didn't care that much for
riding Mopeds,my Moped only has about nineteen miles on it. alt.scooter
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That is part of what the War on terrorism is about,America is not going
to wind up paying euros for oil.The U.S.housing market always has it's
ups and downs.There is a building boom going on right now here in
Jackson and the surounding suburb cities
(Richland,Brandon,Pearl,Madison,Ridgeland,Byram,Fl owood etc) of
Jackson.I hope Jackson never turns into one of those great big cities
that are so full of crap and crazy people.One ''crazy'' (me) around here
is enough.
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wrote in message
ups.com...


The whole country got hurt? The dot com bust didn't effect me one bit.


The housing bubble will behave similarity. Those who have saved and
life an austere lifestyle will prosper most, as they will become the
vultures in the pennies on the dollar housing market. Real estate is
soooooo 2004....



[snip]

Let's not forget that the housing price run up has been good to homeowners
who bought years ago and choose to sell or refinance now and it's also been
good for people in the building trades.

I haven't given the subject of a housing market bubble much thought one way
or the other. But I've seen the prices on various radios soar over the last
few years, which seems odd given the way SW radio has declined. It's my
suspicion that there's a bunch of older guys who are finally getting the
radios they always wanted. They know that a few grand is alot of money, but
that few grand now comes alot easier than a few hundred did back in the
fifties.

There's a bunch of radios which have sold for alot more than I would have
paid. So what! To me, they're just radios. But to some buyer, they might
be much more than just radios. Those radios might be a dream fufilled. How
can any outsider call that buying stupid?

I also wouldn't be suprised if there's some greedy investor types who are
trying make alot of money. Who will be buying those radios in the future?
The old guys will have the radios they want or they'll be gone and nearly
all the kids will find radios totally uninteresting. And for the
"investors" who have no interest in radio, buying stupid will be it's own
punishment.

Frank Dresser


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"Mr Fed UP" wrote in message
...
My last time at Dayton a few years ago it was a costly
one day ticket (my health not good either) and $8 to park in a handicap
parking spot
that might as well been down at the mall it was so far.


I believe the admission prices at Dayton are largely driven by the "going
rate" for the Hara Arena; renting large spaces like that is *quite* expensive.
The prices are certainly not high compared to similarly sized non-amateur
conventions I've attended.

The handicapped parking largely seems to be an issue because *so many* people
request it these days; it's impossible to have literally 300 handcapped
parking spots *all* close to the door. I agree that you're probably better
off parking in a handcapped spot at the mall and riding the shuttle bus.

I believe that for hamfests to continue being successful, they're going to
have to concentrate more on educational seminars, demonstrations, and events
(transmitter hunts, contests, etc.) rather than just a swapmeet.

I think it's a often sign of trouble when any organization seems to spend an
inordinate amount of time worrying about their own numbers rather than just
engaging in what it is that brought them together in the first place and
letting the membership numbers drive themselves. Ham radio (or at least the
ARRL) seem quite preoccupied with membership levels...

My wireless home phone and my computer
has more MHZ than my radio now. ;-(


:-) Yeah, I know what you mean. To some degree FCC regulations have held
back the development of amateur radio, but on the other hand the number of
amateurs out there who could successfully *design* or even *assemble*
something similar in complexity to a cell phone is miniscule.

Maybe it's as well though. Having started in the TUBE days and seeing SMD
parts
now I can't find, or use if I could find them for projects... might be
appropriate that we go
out together in a few years.


Parts availability today is, in many cases, far better than ever before.
Mouser and DigiKey are real treasure troves of inexpensive RF parts, you know
in the click of a mouse what the stock status is, and they deliver quickly.

---Joel Kostad


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Well John, Good for You! More people should be so independent. However,
you just may be the exception that proves the rule because, generally
speaking, an economic downturn is not good for a large portion of the
country.

wrote:
Real estate bubble = people paying too much for housing, the bubble is
starting to bust and people throughout the country are starting to get hurt.


I grow my own food (no grocery shopping bills), tenured teacher (job
for life), own a scooter, and have installed solar panels to hedge my
energy costs.

I also own a gun to shoot poachers wishing to steal my vegetables, and
live in a shooter friendly state (i.e. I won't get arrested for killing
you on my own property)


Please tell us where you teach; I'm sure the parents of the students
would be interested to know that their child's teacher would kill
somebody for taking a carrot.

How is someone like myself affected by the housing bubble, except that
it provides me the ability to get RE on the cheap?


Yup, true-- people have always been able to make money off of the
misfortune or stupidity of others.

Yours In Christ,
John


Seeing as -you- brought it up, what do you think Christ would say about
you shooting and/or killing someone over a few lousy vegetables and who
was only trying to feed his starving family? Hmmmm?

P.S. Ya gotta be kidding, right? Ya really wouldn't kill somebody for
taking a carrot? That really doesn't sound very "Christian" of you.



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wrote in
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I wont buy a hamburger next month from that food trailer at
www.celticfestms.org The one I bought there last year gave me
indigestion.That was buying stupid.
cuhulin



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If a burglar broke into your house and was only interested in stealing
a can of carrots or some regular carrots out of your refridgerator,what
would you do?
One of my favorite foods is a bowl of boiled carrots.
cuhulin

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wrote:

If a burglar broke into your house and was only interested in stealing
a can of carrots or some regular carrots out of your refridgerator,what
would you do?


I doubt if the conversation would even get that far.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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John S. wrote:
Dick Chisel wrote:
mike maghakian wrote:
over the last few years I have been saying how stupid people have been for
paying crazy prices for homes. I said they would be sorry in the end and it
is starting to happen:

this is from an MSN article on home sales:

I recently sold a house in Rochester Hills," Waquad says. "It was purchased
a year ago by the seller for $615,000 -- a newer house. He changed all the
appliances, the carpets and painted. He never lived in it. He must have
spent at least $20,000 to $30,000 fixing it. We got it for a buyer for
$440,000."

the point is that there are consequences to being a stupid buyer. I am just
trying to get people to think before they throw away money.

dxAce wrote:
All well and good, but it is THEIR money. Not MY money, not YOUR money, but
THEIR money.

All well and good, but paying insane prices for real estate is a
"bubble" and when the bubble bursts (as they all do), the -ENTIRE-
country gets hurt.


How do you figure the entire country will get hurt by real estate
prices slowing down.


First, I sincerely hope it just "slows down", not collapses.

Next, it's intuitively obvious and I shouldn't have to explain to you
why a bust is a bad thing for the economy...but on a very simplistic
basis, try this on for size: People buy a large house, too big for their
needs (stupidity, greed or both), the bottom falls out of the real
estate market, the bank repossesses, the stupid/greedy original buyers
now homeless, have to go on welfare, thus driving up taxes for the rest
of us. Just one of hundreds or thousands of possible scenarios why a
bubble bursting is bad for the country in general.

Another fairly obvious scenario is that there will be a -lot- of
repossessed houses on the market, causing the real estate market to
stagnate, with related ripple effects (and yes, a -few- will profit from
the misfortune and/or stupidity of others). Unfortunately though, the
major portion of the people in this country are in debt up to their
eyeballs, have a zero % or negative rate of savings and a major bubble
going bust could push everything over the edge.

The only crowd to get burned in this speculative madness will be those
who got in late.


Sorry, Jack--I don't buy that. Very naive of you. That's like saying a
Ponzi (pyramid) scheme is good for the early but bad for the latecomers.
I believe the Ponzi scam/scheme is ultimately going to be bad for
-everybody-, all the time, every time, early or late.

Those who tired of reading stories about double digit
price increases in real estate and jumped in. Unfortunately those
junior speculators may get their hands burned if they are over extended
and have to sell. And some of the lenders who financed such buying
excess may have to pop the property and be burned on the sale. Most of
us who sat on the sidelines won't be hurt.


True, but still very short-sighted of you; see above. Also true that
"most of you" who are savers won't be hurt. Unfortunately, the "most of
you" that are savers with minimal or no debt are a very, very small
minority. Again, a large portion of this country is in debt up to their
eyeballs and beyond.

And some of us who are
interested in buying may find some real opportnities.


Absolutely true.

If you get the chance please look up a book written in 1848 by Charles
MacKay. It's been reprinted and quoted numerous times. "Memoirs of
Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds" details the
many speculative manias that occured over the centuries prior to 1848
including the well known dutch tulip craze.


Forgive me if I don't look it up but I have read in other places of the
Tulip craze, the "South Seas" bubble, etc.

The tendency of the people
to follow the crowd continues to this day.


Must be why, even today, they are known as "sheeple".

..even maroons in Holland Michigan.

How about the oranges, blues, greens, violets, purples, browns, greys,
pinks, reds. (Hint...use the dictionary).


Hint... please try not to be so cryptic. "Maroon" was a word play on
"moron", not talking about the tulips in Holland nor referring to the
"Tulip craze".

(Or doesn't your feeble brain remember how bad the -country- got hurt
when the "dot com" bubble went bust????)


Well, tell us exactly how badly the entire country got hurt by the dot
com speculative mania. Please be precise.


Please do your own research. It has been well written up in ALL the media.

BY DEFINITION, when a bubble bursts, it is bad for the economy and
therefore bad for a large portion of the populace, especially a populace
like ours that is so very deeply in debt.

The real issue here is why you think a bubble bursting wouldn't hurt the
country.
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