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pure September 14th 06 03:40 AM

Degen DE31 'portable' Shortwave "Active" Loop Antenna
 

OKAY, I TAKE EVERYTHING BACK, THAT I SAID BAD ABOUT THE DEGEN 31 !!!

The blame of the wrong wiring, was on the stupid diagram, wrongly
showing the connections, on the EBAY site and other sites!

In fact, I had the wire the wrong way, with the battery pack handing
just under the square form antenna, and the long wire leading to the
radio.

As soon as I reversed the direction, with long wiring dropping from
the square shaped antenna, the battery pack sat side by side with my
degen 1102, so I won't be susceptible to the fragile wire connection,
as it won't be hanging.

Finally, there is no need to have the connector half inserted into the
ext. antenna jack, because I fully inserted it, the reception was
poor, but all that was needed, was to move the TUNING ADJUST on the
de31 aaa box, and the signal became ideal, strong, clear and quite a
bit better than using only the whip antenna!

Mystery solved....blame the poor diagram, showing on ebay, misleading
customers about proper assembly. !

Also, it was never explained that the extra part with 2 clips, is
intended for those people wishing to replace the square shaped
antenna, with a simple long wire form, which is almost the same as the
long wired originally shipped with the degen 1102 radio, so I don't
see the point of that part, as it's useless.

The batteries, as stated last also, seem to be hanging in there, fine,
after several hours too.

Are you sure that you're attaching things in the right order --- the
battery pack should have plenty of wire to be able to place on a table
and not be hanging from the antenna.



B) Not being patient with the tuning. You really have to tune it
slowly. First move it until you can hear the area of the dial where it
'clicks' and then move it much, much slower around that area to tune it
perfectly.




craigm September 14th 06 04:49 AM

Degen DE31 'portable' Shortwave "Active" Loop Antenna
 
Pure wrote:


Also, it was never explained that the extra part with 2 clips, is
intended for those people wishing to replace the square shaped
antenna, with a simple long wire form, which is almost the same as the
long wired originally shipped with the degen 1102 radio, so I don't
see the point of that part, as it's useless.



The picture here seems clear. It also shows the part with two clips.

http://kaitousa.com/KA31.htm

craigm

pure September 14th 06 06:03 PM

Degen DE31 'portable' Shortwave "Active" Loop Antenna
 
On 13 Sep 2006 23:52:57 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:


Also, it was never explained that the extra part with 2 clips, is
intended for those people wishing to replace the square shaped
antenna, with a simple long wire form, which is almost the same as the
long wired originally shipped with the degen 1102 radio, so I don't
see the point of that part, as it's useless.


Pure - No the Two-Clips are to connect :

* The White-Clip to the Radio's Screw Antenna Terminal
or Whip Antenna

* The Black-Clip to the Radio's Screw Ground Terminal
or the Chassis Ground.

The Loop Antenna Element is used at all times.


THE 2 CLIP WIRE IS ONLY INTENDED FOR THOSE PEOPLE WITH RADIOS THAT
ARE LACKING THE EXTERNAL ANTENNA JACK !!!

THE DEGEN 1102 HAS THAT EXT. ANT. JACK, SO THERE IS NO NEED TO USE
THAT CLIP THING ON IT

RHF September 15th 06 03:01 AM

Degen DE31 'portable' Shortwave "Active" Loop Antenna
 

pure wrote:
On 13 Sep 2006 23:52:57 -0700, "RHF"
wrote:


Also, it was never explained that the extra part with 2 clips, is
intended for those people wishing to replace the square shaped
antenna, with a simple long wire form, which is almost the same as the
long wired originally shipped with the degen 1102 radio, so I don't
see the point of that part, as it's useless.


Pure - No the Two-Clips are to connect :

* The White-Clip to the Radio's Screw Antenna Terminal
or Whip Antenna

* The Black-Clip to the Radio's Screw Ground Terminal
or the Chassis Ground.

The Loop Antenna Element is used at all times.


- THE 2 CLIP WIRE IS ONLY INTENDED FOR THOSE PEOPLE WITH
- RADIOS THAT ARE LACKING THE EXTERNAL ANTENNA JACK !!!

Pure - That is True. ~ RHF

- THE DEGEN 1102 HAS THAT EXT. ANT. JACK, SO THERE IS
- NO NEED TO USE THAT CLIP THING ON IT

Pure - Again that is True. ~ RHF

weatherall September 16th 06 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pure
OKAY, I TAKE EVERYTHING BACK, THAT I SAID BAD ABOUT THE DEGEN 31 !!!

The blame of the wrong wiring, was on the stupid diagram, wrongly
showing the connections, on the EBAY site and other sites!

In fact, I had the wire the wrong way, with the battery pack handing
just under the square form antenna, and the long wire leading to the
radio.

As soon as I reversed the direction, with long wiring dropping from
the square shaped antenna, the battery pack sat side by side with my
degen 1102, so I won't be susceptible to the fragile wire connection,
as it won't be hanging.

Well that's excellent. I'm glad it is working for you. Even though my Eton E5 has a jack for an antenna, I still clip the DE31 to the telescopic antenna rather than plug it in directly. To my ears it seems to give me a slight advantage. Call me crazy.

Let us know if you get any unusual station receptions with your new shortwave reception powers!

Daniel September 16th 06 11:30 PM

Degen DE31 'portable' Shortwave "Active" Loop Antenna
 
* The White-Clip to the Radio's Screw Antenna Terminal
or Whip Antenna

* The Black-Clip to the Radio's Screw Ground Terminal
or the Chassis Ground.


My DE1105 radio has no antenna jack. When connecting the white clip of
the DE31 to the telescopic antenna of the DE1105, reception is improved
a bit, but only if the DE31 tuner is off. When turning on the DE31
tuner, reception degrades.

Where can I connect the black clip? I tried it on one of the battery
minus poles with some aluminium foil but it didn't help.


[email protected] September 17th 06 01:27 AM

Degen DE31 'portable' Shortwave "Active" Loop Antenna
 
DE1105 and DE31

At first, I took a wire and connected it to the negative battery
terminal and the clip... it did help remove alot of the excess noise...
but then I couldn't close the battery cover.

I have since purchased a solder mini-plug (a couple of dollars) from
radio shack (they didn't have the non-solder, which I would've
preferred). I take off the cover of the plug and clip the ground clip
from the antenna to the long connector of the plug. I then plug the
jack into the headphone jack, until I feel resistance, so that only the
ground is connected. (No soldering involved). I plan on eventually
snipping the bottom of the plug.

Again, as others have said, make sure that the amp/tuner is on the
correct side of the wire/antenna and fine tune it well.


Daniel wrote:
* The White-Clip to the Radio's Screw Antenna Terminal
or Whip Antenna

* The Black-Clip to the Radio's Screw Ground Terminal
or the Chassis Ground.


My DE1105 radio has no antenna jack. When connecting the white clip of
the DE31 to the telescopic antenna of the DE1105, reception is improved
a bit, but only if the DE31 tuner is off. When turning on the DE31
tuner, reception degrades.

Where can I connect the black clip? I tried it on one of the battery
minus poles with some aluminium foil but it didn't help.




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