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Talk about the arrogance of these people. Killing thousands of Whales
and Dolphins each year with their sonar just isn't enough....


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"The remediation system aims to protect hundreds of low earth-orbiting
satellites from having their onboard electronics ruined by charged particles
in unusually intense radiation belts "pumped up" by high-altitude nuclear
explosions or powerful solar storms"

As if nukes or powerful solar storms are a good thing for shortwave.
Allah must of had a hangover when he gave these people a brain.

"m II" wrote in message news:j6jVg.12480$N4.5499@clgrps12...
Talk about the arrogance of these people. Killing thousands of Whales
and Dolphins each year with their sonar just isn't enough....


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Seeing-I-dawg wrote:
"The remediation system aims to protect hundreds of low earth-orbiting
satellites from having their onboard electronics ruined by charged particles
in unusually intense radiation belts "pumped up" by high-altitude nuclear
explosions or powerful solar storms"

As if nukes or powerful solar storms are a good thing for shortwave.
Allah must of had a hangover when he gave these people a brain.


It seems to totally exclude the possibility that this particle belt
they wish to diminish on an ad-hoc basis also contributes to protection
of life on earth from the hazards of extraterrestrial radiation, which
are considerable.

Bruce Jensen

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"bpnjensen" wrote

It seems to totally exclude the possibility that this particle belt
they wish to diminish on an ad-hoc basis also contributes to protection
of life on earth from the hazards of extraterrestrial radiation, which
are considerable.


'...charged particles in unusually intense radiation belts "pumped up" by
high-altitude nuclear explosions or powerful solar storms'

ad-hoc?








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"m II" wrote in message news:j6jVg.12480$N4.5499@clgrps12...
Talk about the arrogance of these people.


Who was talking about what arrogance?

Killing thousands of Whales and Dolphins each year with their sonar just
isn't enough....

I assume you have a personal fin count on this.


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Seeing-I-dawg wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote

It seems to totally exclude the possibility that this particle belt
they wish to diminish on an ad-hoc basis also contributes to protection
of life on earth from the hazards of extraterrestrial radiation, which
are considerable.


'...charged particles in unusually intense radiation belts "pumped up" by
high-altitude nuclear explosions or powerful solar storms'

ad-hoc?


When it comes to solar storms, yes. These happen frequently enough
(and naturally enough) to be considered to be a constant source of
concern for anyone interested in satellites. You throw antidotes at
this cosmic disease often enough and you may find the cure for one
problem makes the ailment worse. Obviously, if you can protect vital
equipment from a nuclear war, by all means do it. To constantly
disrupt a natural protection from a potential hazard, even to protect
pieces of machinery, should require a bit more thinking through.

Bruce Jensen

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Brenda Ann wrote:
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My question, perhaps a stupid one, but one that begs the asking nonetheless
would be:

If there is so much disruption to satellites from nuclear bombs, is there
going to be anyone around to use them (or care whether they are there or
not)?

acording various projections in the 1980's when I working for my Uncle
Sam in that feild more than 120 million amercians were expected to
survive a nuclear war of the Soveit Union, then depending oin part on
wether comincation (and other services could be kept working that
population may may only slightly or dramitc to 100 million or 20
million (the level subsistance ag could sustatian) so if you can keep
sat and other com links up ayou have the abilty to try to re knit
equipemtn with spare part know where esentcail drugg sould be deployed
and have a chance ( althought it looked pretty grim in those days) aof
sustaining much of the rest of the popualtion of the USA. Today only
the USA (and maybe the PRC have a real arsenal of worakbale nukes and
therefore far more amercians would be killed in any exchange (since I
dod assume if we launch out weapons it will at a non us target) it also
seems unlikely in any exchange today that the US would dump the rack
and matintining control of the nukes we have not launched would be
crtical use for our sats

irnoicaly the end of the cold has made Nuclear war seem More likely to
many folks becuase it would be a smaller war

hope that will do as an answer

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http://ed-thelen.org/last-line.html

SL 60 Battery C.I was there from January 1963 till September 1963.Nike
Hercules Nuclear Missiles.That was back in the Cold War era.Actually,the
Cold War never went away,it only simmered down for a while.The Cold War
is back on again.
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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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Say no to institutionalized interference.
Just say NO to HD/IBOC!
"bpnjensen" wrote in message
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Seeing-I-dawg wrote:
"bpnjensen" wrote

It seems to totally exclude the possibility that this particle belt
they wish to diminish on an ad-hoc basis also contributes to
protection
of life on earth from the hazards of extraterrestrial radiation, which
are considerable.

'...charged particles in unusually intense radiation belts "pumped up"
by
high-altitude nuclear explosions or powerful solar storms'

ad-hoc?


When it comes to solar storms, yes. These happen frequently enough
(and naturally enough) to be considered to be a constant source of
concern for anyone interested in satellites. You throw antidotes at
this cosmic disease often enough and you may find the cure for one
problem makes the ailment worse. Obviously, if you can protect vital
equipment from a nuclear war, by all means do it. To constantly
disrupt a natural protection from a potential hazard, even to protect
pieces of machinery, should require a bit more thinking through.



My question, perhaps a stupid one, but one that begs the asking
nonetheless would be:

If there is so much disruption to satellites from nuclear bombs, is there
going to be anyone around to use them (or care whether they are there or
not)?


That is a very pretty point that you've raised. Want the answer ??? It
doesn't matter what the practical reality is. The ones with all the
resources here that are calling the shots are "LORD HIGH". According to
their acquired self delusions, they'll just walk between the radiation
particles while the rest of us plebeians drop dead slowly.

dh


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Electronic Satellites in Space.If the Sunspots don't get them,nukes
will.Or something else.China has been blinding some of our Satellites
with lasers.
I guess in a manner of speaking,they are sitting Ducks up there.On the
Andy Griffith tv show this evening,Andy had to aim a little to the right
to knock over those Ducks at the Carnival.
cuhulin

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