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[email protected] November 2nd 06 02:46 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
It's brand new at Radio Shack. Long distance digital with memory
presets for $49.99. Gets 100 hours on 6 D cells or plug it in.
Connections for external antennas. George (MN)


[email protected] November 2nd 06 05:57 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 

wrote:
It's brand new at Radio Shack. Long distance digital with memory
presets for $49.99. Gets 100 hours on 6 D cells or plug it in.
Connections for external antennas. George (MN)


If you check the weight, it is only one pound and the same size as the
Grundig S350 - that make me very suspicious of the quality. My little
RS radio, about the size of the Sony 7600GR, weighs 15 ounces.


Stephanie Weil November 3rd 06 08:57 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 

wrote:

Ten bucks it's from China !


ALL RADIOS COME FROM CHINA!!! Get used to it. jeeze.

steph


[email protected] November 4th 06 12:08 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 

Stephanie Weil wrote:
wrote:

Ten bucks it's from China !


ALL RADIOS COME FROM CHINA!!! Get used to it. jeeze.

steph


Jeeze Stephanie, some Chinese-made radios, must be crappier than others
!


Telamon November 4th 06 04:02 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
In article .com,
"Stephanie Weil" wrote:

wrote:

Ten bucks it's from China !


ALL RADIOS COME FROM CHINA!!! Get used to it. jeeze.


None of the radios I own came from China but I understand what you meant.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Shepherd November 5th 06 02:35 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 

I am going to get one of these on Monday. I will post my review as
soon as I have had an opportunity to use it. I was excited to find
this thread as, other than the RadioShack webite itself, I haven't been
able to find any info on this radio at all. I am in a rural location
and am hoping that this unit will be decent for DXing.


[email protected] November 5th 06 05:14 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
I saw this today at a local RS. It's quite a big radio, with handles.
It has two filters on AM (wide/narrow), and connections for an external
AM antenna, and FM antennas (both 75 and 300 ohms). The user manual is
nothing more than a large sheet of paper in English and Spanish, with
almost nothing useful on it by way of real specs (sensitivity,
selectivity, ...) ...

Shepherd wrote:
I am going to get one of these on Monday. I will post my review as
soon as I have had an opportunity to use it. I was excited to find
this thread as, other than the RadioShack webite itself, I haven't been
able to find any info on this radio at all. I am in a rural location
and am hoping that this unit will be decent for DXing.



[email protected] November 5th 06 06:16 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 

wrote:
justice wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
It's brand new at Radio Shack. Long distance digital with memory
presets for $49.99. Gets 100 hours on 6 D cells or plug it in.
Connections for external antennas. George (MN)

Very interesting looking radio - I wonder, what's up with the switches
on the front panel ? I am a bit leary of these types of radios, after
my experience with the Grundig S350 - the S350 and SRIII are touted as
being high-performance, but my RS model 12-898 (discontinued) is about
the size of a Sony 7600GR and gets just as good reception as my now
returned S350. Obviously, the RS 12-150 has about an 8-inch
ferrite-bar, as the S350, but at this point, it doesn't really seem to
matter that much. I looked up my zip-code, but there are no 12-150s
available anywhere in stores - too bad, I'de like to check one out.
Good catch, I hadn't heard of this radio. Anyway, if AM nighttime IBOC
gets approved, we can throw our DXing radios in the trash. The 12-150
doesn't have a user manual online, yet - too bad.


I've never heard of it either, thanks for the tip. I'll pick one up
this weekend as my local RS lists it as in stock. Good thing they have
the 30 day return policy just in case its not what its billed to be.
If it doesn't tune in 1 kHz increments its not even leaving the store!
Any idea of who actually makes it? It doesn't look anything like the
current RF-2200-wannabe Chinese radios on the market.


Ten bucks it's from China !


So what. 10 years ago radios were from either Taiwan or Hong Kong,
which are for all intents the same as China.


I did luck out with my RS 12-898, being
Chinese-made, but it was "custom made" for RS, and is pretty decent
quality. Are all RS radios "custom made" ? :-)


I would imagine Radio Shack does send specs to the maker, yes.


[email protected] November 5th 06 12:49 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 

wrote:
wrote:
justice wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
It's brand new at Radio Shack. Long distance digital with memory
presets for $49.99. Gets 100 hours on 6 D cells or plug it in.
Connections for external antennas. George (MN)

Very interesting looking radio - I wonder, what's up with the switches
on the front panel ? I am a bit leary of these types of radios, after
my experience with the Grundig S350 - the S350 and SRIII are touted as
being high-performance, but my RS model 12-898 (discontinued) is about
the size of a Sony 7600GR and gets just as good reception as my now
returned S350. Obviously, the RS 12-150 has about an 8-inch
ferrite-bar, as the S350, but at this point, it doesn't really seem to
matter that much. I looked up my zip-code, but there are no 12-150s
available anywhere in stores - too bad, I'de like to check one out.
Good catch, I hadn't heard of this radio. Anyway, if AM nighttime IBOC
gets approved, we can throw our DXing radios in the trash. The 12-150
doesn't have a user manual online, yet - too bad.

I've never heard of it either, thanks for the tip. I'll pick one up
this weekend as my local RS lists it as in stock. Good thing they have
the 30 day return policy just in case its not what its billed to be.
If it doesn't tune in 1 kHz increments its not even leaving the store!
Any idea of who actually makes it? It doesn't look anything like the
current RF-2200-wannabe Chinese radios on the market.


Ten bucks it's from China !


So what. 10 years ago radios were from either Taiwan or Hong Kong,
which are for all intents the same as China.


I did luck out with my RS 12-898, being
Chinese-made, but it was "custom made" for RS, and is pretty decent
quality. Are all RS radios "custom made" ? :-)


I would imagine Radio Shack does send specs to the maker, yes.


So what ? Look what happened to the quality of Eton/Grundig, once they
started to be made in China. The 12-150, must be a re-packaged S350,
with it's light-weight design and large size. Speaking from experience,
these high-performance AM/FM radios are all fluff !


RobnzBoy November 5th 06 08:32 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
The first review:
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6263

justice November 5th 06 11:33 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
Turns out my local store didnn't have one, so I couldn't check it out
this weekend. It tunes MW in 10 kHz steps, and with a button instead
of a knob? Maybe its good that they didn't have one since I would have
been very disappointed by that. Please post a review when you get one
that works and compare it to other MW "DX" portables, if you could.

RobnzBoy wrote:
The first review:
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6263



Du_Hicky November 6th 06 12:17 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
RobnzBoy wrote:
The first review:
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6263

How did it sound compared to the Grundig S350? What size speaker did it
have?


RobnzBoy November 6th 06 01:03 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
The 12-150 has more bass than the S350 but less treble. I don't know
what size speaker it had.

Sound quality is very subjective. I recommend that you take your
favorite radio to a Radio Shack and try them together to see which you
like better. Or better yet, take them both to the place (home, work,
etc) where you would be using it most.

RobnzBoy November 6th 06 01:13 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
The tuning knob is the large black knob with the red mark at the 12:00
position. The knob doesn't turn all the way around, though. It just
moves from 12:00 to 10:00 to go down and 12:00 to 2:00 to go up.
Here's a link to a picture of the radio:
http://tinyurl.com/y8v9vw


Michael Black November 6th 06 03:23 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
RobnzBoy ) writes:
The tuning knob is the large black knob with the red mark at the 12:00
position. The knob doesn't turn all the way around, though. It just
moves from 12:00 to 10:00 to go down and 12:00 to 2:00 to go up.
Here's a link to a picture of the radio:
http://tinyurl.com/y8v9vw

So it's like they have on at least some car radios (I have no idea
how common the scheme is). It's the equivalent of an UP and DOWN
button on some radios, but in the form of knob on a shaft.

Michael



[email protected] November 6th 06 12:58 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 

RobnzBoy wrote:
The first review:
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6263


This is the same garbage radio, as the S350 !


robnzboy November 6th 06 07:23 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
The 12-150 is definitely not the same radio as the S350. The only
similarity between these two radios is their handles and their size.

There's absolutely nothing else that the two radios have in common.

[email protected] November 6th 06 08:25 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 

robnzboy wrote:
The 12-150 is definitely not the same radio as the S350. The only
similarity between these two radios is their handles and their size.

There's absolutely nothing else that the two radios have in common.


The only similarity, is that the 12-150 is probably a light-weight
piece-of-crap like the S350 !


[email protected] November 7th 06 01:09 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 

wrote:
It's brand new at Radio Shack. Long distance digital with memory
presets for $49.99. Gets 100 hours on 6 D cells or plug it in.
Connections for external antennas. George (MN)


Does anyone know just what features a Long Distance Radio is supposed
to have? Other than a premium price of course.


Wayne November 7th 06 04:02 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
What I'd like to see in a portable MW receiver. A good audio section
like the one in the GE SR III. Both 9 and 10 KHz digital step tuning
with at least 1 KHz fine tuning. Good selectivity allowing for
split-frequency DX. Very good sensitivity. Better than average image
rejection. Synchronous detection. RF attenuator. Large ferrite bar
which can be rotated separate from the main body of the radio. Switch
allowing for disconnection of the internal ferrite bar antenna to allow
for exclusive use of an external antenna. S-meter. Make it an MW or MW
+ SW only set and tailor its performance to get the most out of those
bands. Oh, include stereo decoder. Is this asking too much?

Wayne
wrote:
wrote:
It's brand new at Radio Shack. Long distance digital with memory
presets for $49.99. Gets 100 hours on 6 D cells or plug it in.
Connections for external antennas. George (MN)


Does anyone know just what features a Long Distance Radio is supposed
to have? Other than a premium price of course.



Shepherd November 7th 06 05:46 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
Wayne wrote:
What I'd like to see in a portable MW receiver. A good audio section
like the one in the GE SR III. Both 9 and 10 KHz digital step tuning
with at least 1 KHz fine tuning. Good selectivity allowing for
split-frequency DX. Very good sensitivity. Better than average image
rejection. Synchronous detection. RF attenuator. Large ferrite bar
which can be rotated separate from the main body of the radio. Switch
allowing for disconnection of the internal ferrite bar antenna to allow
for exclusive use of an external antenna. S-meter. Make it an MW or MW
+ SW only set and tailor its performance to get the most out of those
bands. Oh, include stereo decoder. Is this asking too much?

Wayne


Wayne,

I don't think it is too much to ask. Please post when you find this
radio! That is certainly the one I want.


Michael Black November 7th 06 06:17 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
"Shepherd" ) writes:
Wayne wrote:
What I'd like to see in a portable MW receiver. A good audio section
like the one in the GE SR III. Both 9 and 10 KHz digital step tuning
with at least 1 KHz fine tuning. Good selectivity allowing for
split-frequency DX. Very good sensitivity. Better than average image
rejection. Synchronous detection. RF attenuator. Large ferrite bar
which can be rotated separate from the main body of the radio. Switch
allowing for disconnection of the internal ferrite bar antenna to allow
for exclusive use of an external antenna. S-meter. Make it an MW or MW
+ SW only set and tailor its performance to get the most out of those
bands. Oh, include stereo decoder. Is this asking too much?

Wayne


Wayne,

I don't think it is too much to ask. Please post when you find this
radio! That is certainly the one I want.


But the problem is that what is the market?

The GE Superradio carries a nice label, which likely sells more radios.
But it really isn't that much more than an average portable AM/FM radio.
It could be argued the bigger speaker (ie better sound for local reception)
is as much a factor as the the heralded ability to receive distant stations.

The things the previous poster wants is quite available in a receiver. A lot
of portable shortwave receivers have most of those features. But, they also
carry a higher price. The cost is a reflection of the better circuitry, but
it also reflects a more limited market.

Just about everyone will spend ten dollars to get a portable AM/FM radio.
Some will pay a bit more to get one with a bigger speaker (and maybe better
DX ability). But the number of people who want an AM/FM radio for DX is
a much smaller number. Development cost has to be spread over that smaller
population. The cost reductions of mass production can't kick in, as it
does at the ten dollar radio level.

Once the features are added, you have an AM/FM radio that costs quite
a bit, but for most people doesn't give them any extra ability (because
they aren't interested digging signals out of the mud). Many of the
people who might be interested would look at the price and say "but at
its core, it's still just an AM/FM radio". They might be more tempted
by the addition of shortwave bands, but that adds more cost, and those
already exist.

Michael



Wayne November 8th 06 01:16 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 

Michael Black wrote:
"Shepherd" ) writes:
Wayne wrote:
What I'd like to see in a portable MW receiver. A good audio section
like the one in the GE SR III. Both 9 and 10 KHz digital step tuning
with at least 1 KHz fine tuning. Good selectivity allowing for
split-frequency DX. Very good sensitivity. Better than average image
rejection. Synchronous detection. RF attenuator. Large ferrite bar
which can be rotated separate from the main body of the radio. Switch
allowing for disconnection of the internal ferrite bar antenna to allow
for exclusive use of an external antenna. S-meter. Make it an MW or MW
+ SW only set and tailor its performance to get the most out of those
bands. Oh, include stereo decoder. Is this asking too much?

Wayne


Wayne,

I don't think it is too much to ask. Please post when you find this
radio! That is certainly the one I want.


But the problem is that what is the market?

The GE Superradio carries a nice label, which likely sells more radios.
But it really isn't that much more than an average portable AM/FM radio.
It could be argued the bigger speaker (ie better sound for local reception)
is as much a factor as the the heralded ability to receive distant stations.

The things the previous poster wants is quite available in a receiver. A lot
of portable shortwave receivers have most of those features. But, they also
carry a higher price. The cost is a reflection of the better circuitry, but
it also reflects a more limited market.

Just about everyone will spend ten dollars to get a portable AM/FM radio.
Some will pay a bit more to get one with a bigger speaker (and maybe better
DX ability). But the number of people who want an AM/FM radio for DX is
a much smaller number. Development cost has to be spread over that smaller
population. The cost reductions of mass production can't kick in, as it
does at the ten dollar radio level.

Once the features are added, you have an AM/FM radio that costs quite
a bit, but for most people doesn't give them any extra ability (because
they aren't interested digging signals out of the mud). Many of the
people who might be interested would look at the price and say "but at
its core, it's still just an AM/FM radio". They might be more tempted
by the addition of shortwave bands, but that adds more cost, and those
already exist.

Michael


I agree with all you said. I enjoy the hobby of DX listening and most
who do will pay a bit extra for a good radio. However, DX enthusiasts
tend to be a bit weird, not to mention far and few between. I include
myself in that group. I don't have lots to spend on radios. If I did,
I would probably own a Drake R8, which I understand, is an awesome
radio!

I have a love-hate relationship with my GE SR III. It's such an odd
radio. It shines in ways one would not expect for a $50 radio. I was
enamored by its audio quality the moment I hear it. It just sounds
great! As for its DX ability, it sure is a sensitive set but lacks in
the selectivity department particularly on the top end of the dial. But
it sounds great! I am amazed at how inaccurate its dial calibration is!
But it sounds great! It looks and feels like it may fly apart at any
moment. But it sounds great! I truly believe that if better quality
control and craftsmanship were put into that set, it would really be an
attractive radio. But then the price would have to go up. I have set my
GE SR III aside other high-performance portables and it gets pretty
much anything all others pick up and with superior sound. My GE SR III
benefits quite well from the Select-A-Tenna set alongside especially on
the lower end of the band. Could someone explain to me why the SAT when
introduced to a radio causes the tone of the signal to change. The
treble seems to drop off a bit, but the bass and midrange become
stronger and louder resulting in a richer sounding signal. It's
almost as if the receiver is somehow more selective and concentrating
the signal into a smaller or more narrow area.

Wayne


jamman November 8th 06 04:00 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
I posted earlier after buying the Radio Shack 12-150 ... and I'll be
the first to admit that this radio was my first foray into DX ... but
I've been disappointed in the radio overall. It has a simplistic
attractiveness to it, and it has PLL, but the knobs are real cheap
plastic (and will probably have a short lifespan!) and the reception
hasn't been as great as I'd hoped for a radio that was boasted as being
"extreme range." The SW capabilities are very weak, but that might be
my inexperience.

I have spent hours navigating through this message board and getting
advice, and I've decided to return this radio and spend a lot more than
I'd planned and get the Sony 7600gr. I sure appreciate all the
knowledge and experience that people share on these message boards!
I'm going to hang onto the 12-150 a couple more days so I can try them
side by side for my own curiousity to learn how different radios
function.

For the earlier posts, I enjoy a good sound, but it's not my driving
factor ... it probably was when I was a teen and was dialed into FM,
but I'm mostly listening to talk radio programs, so to get a weaker
speaker from a radio with stronger reception is a trade that I'm
willing to make.

That's just my humble opinion!


craigm November 8th 06 04:23 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
Wayne wrote:

Could someone explain to me why the SAT when
introduced to a radio causes the tone of the signal to change. The
treble seems to drop off a bit, but the bass and midrange become
stronger and louder resulting in a richer sounding signal. It's
almost as if the receiver is somehow more selective and concentrating
the signal into a smaller or more narrow area.

Wayne



What you may be experiencing is the high Q of the antenna. This results in a
low bandwidth passed by the antenna. For example, if the Q is 200, then the
bandwidth at 600 kHz is only three kHz. Anything above 1.5 kHz in the audio
will be attenuated.

(note: I've assumed a value for Q. I don't know the real number for the
SAT.)

craigm


[email protected] November 9th 06 03:25 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 

wrote:
RobnzBoy wrote:
The first review:
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6263

This is the same garbage radio, as the S350 !


Stay away from this radio. Quality control problems. With the AM
switched to narrow, the thing is deaf except for a few locals.
Sensitivity improves alot in the WIDE mode, but the tuning shifts... to
tune 880kHz, I have to tune to 890kHz to center it

The FM is also bad... living near two 50kw'ers, the entire band is
useless. The WX picked up the local station 20 miles east, but one of
the 50kw'ers would bleed in if I moved the whip around.

Bass and Treble controls are reversed and the huge knob is not easy to
work with (an UP/DOWN button would have been better).

Audio quality is OK. There is an AUX input jack. The diplay is nice,
if not a little too bright (the backlight stays on with AC... it goes
off after 5 seconds using batteries).

I got mine last Sat, it was the only one in the store.


Shepherd November 12th 06 01:22 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 

wrote:
wrote:
RobnzBoy wrote:
The first review:
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6263

This is the same garbage radio, as the S350 !


Stay away from this radio. Quality control problems. With the AM
switched to narrow, the thing is deaf except for a few locals.
Sensitivity improves alot in the WIDE mode, but the tuning shifts... to
tune 880kHz, I have to tune to 890kHz to center it

The FM is also bad... living near two 50kw'ers, the entire band is
useless. The WX picked up the local station 20 miles east, but one of
the 50kw'ers would bleed in if I moved the whip around.

Bass and Treble controls are reversed and the huge knob is not easy to
work with (an UP/DOWN button would have been better).

Audio quality is OK. There is an AUX input jack. The diplay is nice,
if not a little too bright (the backlight stays on with AC... it goes
off after 5 seconds using batteries).

I got mine last Sat, it was the only one in the store.


I got this radio last Monday and, contrary to many of the posts, I have
really enjoyed the radio. I have gotten really good reception on the
MW. I live in a very rural area and in a metal building and still
pick up solid reception from WOAI which is about 400 miles south of me.
Maybe I got the "good one".

All I can say is that I am happy with this model at least for the time
being.


[email protected] November 12th 06 01:43 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 

wrote:
wrote:
RobnzBoy wrote:
The first review:
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6263

This is the same garbage radio, as the S350 !


Stay away from this radio. Quality control problems. With the AM
switched to narrow, the thing is deaf except for a few locals.
Sensitivity improves alot in the WIDE mode, but the tuning shifts... to
tune 880kHz, I have to tune to 890kHz to center it

The FM is also bad... living near two 50kw'ers, the entire band is
useless. The WX picked up the local station 20 miles east, but one of
the 50kw'ers would bleed in if I moved the whip around.

Bass and Treble controls are reversed and the huge knob is not easy to
work with (an UP/DOWN button would have been better).

Audio quality is OK. There is an AUX input jack. The diplay is nice,
if not a little too bright (the backlight stays on with AC... it goes
off after 5 seconds using batteries).

I got mine last Sat, it was the only one in the store.


I guessed the 12-150 was a repackaged Grundig S350, SRIII, or the
original high-performance radio that RS used to carry. I had that
piece-of-crap S350, now returned to RS, and weighing in at just one
pound, as the 12-150, I should have known better (but, it had a pretty
face). Really sick of all the hype and cheap Chinese-made receivers. I
have a $25 RS PLL AM/FM 12-898 (now discontined) that performs as well
as my S350 did. If the 12-150 had a handle similar to the S350, it too
would reek of cheap imitation leather ! Good decision to take that
cheap piece of **** back to RS !


Wayne November 12th 06 07:18 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
Hi Shepherd:

Count it a blessing that you live in a rural location. The reasons
I say this is because I forgot to mention a particular quirk of the
SONY ICF SW7600GR. It, like most didital radios, has less than perfect
image rejection. I live in the inner city with numerous MW stations
within a mile or two of me. I get ghost images of these stations which
pop up in various places on the dial. Most radios choke on these strong
local signals though. Oddly, the best radio I have at rejecting images
is...don't laugh...a GE SR III. It, by the way, is my most sensitive
set and I would pit it against any radio costing twice as much for
overall performance. The sad thing about the GE SR III sets is the poor
quality control issues. If you can find a good one, it's a keeper.

But, I'm happy you are pleased with your SONY. I like mine too and
it's a great set for its size and price.

Wayne
Shepherd wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
RobnzBoy wrote:
The first review:
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6263

This is the same garbage radio, as the S350 !


Stay away from this radio. Quality control problems. With the AM
switched to narrow, the thing is deaf except for a few locals.
Sensitivity improves alot in the WIDE mode, but the tuning shifts... to
tune 880kHz, I have to tune to 890kHz to center it

The FM is also bad... living near two 50kw'ers, the entire band is
useless. The WX picked up the local station 20 miles east, but one of
the 50kw'ers would bleed in if I moved the whip around.

Bass and Treble controls are reversed and the huge knob is not easy to
work with (an UP/DOWN button would have been better).

Audio quality is OK. There is an AUX input jack. The diplay is nice,
if not a little too bright (the backlight stays on with AC... it goes
off after 5 seconds using batteries).

I got mine last Sat, it was the only one in the store.


I got this radio last Monday and, contrary to many of the posts, I have
really enjoyed the radio. I have gotten really good reception on the
MW. I live in a very rural area and in a metal building and still
pick up solid reception from WOAI which is about 400 miles south of me.
Maybe I got the "good one".

All I can say is that I am happy with this model at least for the time
being.



Lou November 13th 06 03:17 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
On 11 Nov 2006 17:43:52 -0800, wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
RobnzBoy wrote:
The first review:
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6263

This is the same garbage radio, as the S350 !


Stay away from this radio. Quality control problems. With the AM
switched to narrow, the thing is deaf except for a few locals.
Sensitivity improves alot in the WIDE mode, but the tuning shifts... to
tune 880kHz, I have to tune to 890kHz to center it

The FM is also bad... living near two 50kw'ers, the entire band is
useless. The WX picked up the local station 20 miles east, but one of
the 50kw'ers would bleed in if I moved the whip around.

Bass and Treble controls are reversed and the huge knob is not easy to
work with (an UP/DOWN button would have been better).

Audio quality is OK. There is an AUX input jack. The diplay is nice,
if not a little too bright (the backlight stays on with AC... it goes
off after 5 seconds using batteries).

I got mine last Sat, it was the only one in the store.


I guessed the 12-150 was a repackaged Grundig S350, SRIII, or the
original high-performance radio that RS used to carry. I had that
piece-of-crap S350, now returned to RS, and weighing in at just one
pound, as the 12-150, I should have known better (but, it had a pretty
face). Really sick of all the hype and cheap Chinese-made receivers. I
have a $25 RS PLL AM/FM 12-898 (now discontined) that performs as well
as my S350 did. If the 12-150 had a handle similar to the S350, it too
would reek of cheap imitation leather ! Good decision to take that
cheap piece of **** back to RS !


I have an Eton- Grundig S350DL and am quite happy with it. I also recently
purchased the RS 12-150 and am pleased with it also.

The reception is good in both and the sound is quite good.

For MW sensitivity I would give the edge to the 350DL and sound to the
12-150, but each serve my needs.

As for the size and weight of the 12-150 I know that it is listed as
weighing only 15oz on the Radio Shack web site, but the one I have weighs
4lbs 11oz. without batteries and measures 9" w x 12 1/2" w x 4" d.

[email protected] November 14th 06 08:46 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
Shepherd wrote:
wrote:
wrote:
RobnzBoy wrote:
The first review:
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6263

This is the same garbage radio, as the S350 !


Stay away from this radio. Quality control problems. With the AM
switched to narrow, the thing is deaf except for a few locals.
Sensitivity improves alot in the WIDE mode, but the tuning shifts... to
tune 880kHz, I have to tune to 890kHz to center it

The FM is also bad... living near two 50kw'ers, the entire band is
useless. The WX picked up the local station 20 miles east, but one of
the 50kw'ers would bleed in if I moved the whip around.

Bass and Treble controls are reversed and the huge knob is not easy to
work with (an UP/DOWN button would have been better).

Audio quality is OK. There is an AUX input jack. The diplay is nice,
if not a little too bright (the backlight stays on with AC... it goes
off after 5 seconds using batteries).

I got mine last Sat, it was the only one in the store.


I got this radio last Monday and, contrary to many of the posts, I have
really enjoyed the radio. I have gotten really good reception on the
MW. I live in a very rural area and in a metal building and still
pick up solid reception from WOAI which is about 400 miles south of me.
Maybe I got the "good one".

All I can say is that I am happy with this model at least for the time
being.


Hello,

I bought this new Radio Shack 12-150 and was very disappointed with
AM performance. The GE super radio is way better on AM. You can't tune
in 1 kHz steps and there is some back ground noise. I own a GE Super
radio, a Sony ICF-7600GR, and a CC Radio, they are much better
concerning AM sensitivity and selectivity. I took this radio back,
don't waste your time purchasing it!


craigm November 14th 06 10:05 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
wrote:
..

Hello,

I bought this new Radio Shack 12-150 and was very disappointed with
AM performance. The GE super radio is way better on AM. You can't tune
in 1 kHz steps and there is some back ground noise. I own a GE Super
radio, a Sony ICF-7600GR, and a CC Radio, they are much better
concerning AM sensitivity and selectivity. I took this radio back,
don't waste your time purchasing it!


I also see poor AM sensitivity. FM is reasonable. The sound is good.

The tuning knob implementation is poor.





[email protected] November 15th 06 02:42 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 

Lou wrote:
On 11 Nov 2006 17:43:52 -0800, wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
RobnzBoy wrote:
The first review:
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6263

This is the same garbage radio, as the S350 !

Stay away from this radio. Quality control problems. With the AM
switched to narrow, the thing is deaf except for a few locals.
Sensitivity improves alot in the WIDE mode, but the tuning shifts... to
tune 880kHz, I have to tune to 890kHz to center it

The FM is also bad... living near two 50kw'ers, the entire band is
useless. The WX picked up the local station 20 miles east, but one of
the 50kw'ers would bleed in if I moved the whip around.

Bass and Treble controls are reversed and the huge knob is not easy to
work with (an UP/DOWN button would have been better).

Audio quality is OK. There is an AUX input jack. The diplay is nice,
if not a little too bright (the backlight stays on with AC... it goes
off after 5 seconds using batteries).

I got mine last Sat, it was the only one in the store.


I guessed the 12-150 was a repackaged Grundig S350, SRIII, or the
original high-performance radio that RS used to carry. I had that
piece-of-crap S350, now returned to RS, and weighing in at just one
pound, as the 12-150, I should have known better (but, it had a pretty
face). Really sick of all the hype and cheap Chinese-made receivers. I
have a $25 RS PLL AM/FM 12-898 (now discontined) that performs as well
as my S350 did. If the 12-150 had a handle similar to the S350, it too
would reek of cheap imitation leather ! Good decision to take that
cheap piece of **** back to RS !


I have an Eton- Grundig S350DL and am quite happy with it. I also recently
purchased the RS 12-150 and am pleased with it also.

The reception is good in both and the sound is quite good.

For MW sensitivity I would give the edge to the 350DL and sound to the
12-150, but each serve my needs.

As for the size and weight of the 12-150 I know that it is listed as
weighing only 15oz on the Radio Shack web site, but the one I have weighs
4lbs 11oz. without batteries and measures 9" w x 12 1/2" w x 4" d.


Both radios only weigh on pound and are cheap pieces of **** !


Lou November 16th 06 01:24 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
On 14 Nov 2006 18:42:32 -0800, wrote:

Lou wrote:
On 11 Nov 2006 17:43:52 -0800,
wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
RobnzBoy wrote:
The first review:
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6263

This is the same garbage radio, as the S350 !

Stay away from this radio. Quality control problems. With the AM
switched to narrow, the thing is deaf except for a few locals.
Sensitivity improves alot in the WIDE mode, but the tuning shifts... to
tune 880kHz, I have to tune to 890kHz to center it

The FM is also bad... living near two 50kw'ers, the entire band is
useless. The WX picked up the local station 20 miles east, but one of
the 50kw'ers would bleed in if I moved the whip around.

Bass and Treble controls are reversed and the huge knob is not easy to
work with (an UP/DOWN button would have been better).

Audio quality is OK. There is an AUX input jack. The diplay is nice,
if not a little too bright (the backlight stays on with AC... it goes
off after 5 seconds using batteries).

I got mine last Sat, it was the only one in the store.

I guessed the 12-150 was a repackaged Grundig S350, SRIII, or the
original high-performance radio that RS used to carry. I had that
piece-of-crap S350, now returned to RS, and weighing in at just one
pound, as the 12-150, I should have known better (but, it had a pretty
face). Really sick of all the hype and cheap Chinese-made receivers. I
have a $25 RS PLL AM/FM 12-898 (now discontined) that performs as well
as my S350 did. If the 12-150 had a handle similar to the S350, it too
would reek of cheap imitation leather ! Good decision to take that
cheap piece of **** back to RS !


I have an Eton- Grundig S350DL and am quite happy with it. I also recently
purchased the RS 12-150 and am pleased with it also.

The reception is good in both and the sound is quite good.

For MW sensitivity I would give the edge to the 350DL and sound to the
12-150, but each serve my needs.

As for the size and weight of the 12-150 I know that it is listed as
weighing only 15oz on the Radio Shack web site, but the one I have weighs
4lbs 11oz. without batteries and measures 9" w x 12 1/2" w x 4" d.


Both radios only weigh on pound and are cheap pieces of **** !


My 12-150 weighs in at 4 lbs 11 oz sitting on an electronic scale, and that
is without batteries.

As I said, I'm happy with both radios, as they each serve my purpose.

[email protected] November 16th 06 04:17 AM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 

Lou wrote:
On 14 Nov 2006 18:42:32 -0800, wrote:

Lou wrote:
On 11 Nov 2006 17:43:52 -0800,
wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
RobnzBoy wrote:
The first review:
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6263

This is the same garbage radio, as the S350 !

Stay away from this radio. Quality control problems. With the AM
switched to narrow, the thing is deaf except for a few locals.
Sensitivity improves alot in the WIDE mode, but the tuning shifts... to
tune 880kHz, I have to tune to 890kHz to center it

The FM is also bad... living near two 50kw'ers, the entire band is
useless. The WX picked up the local station 20 miles east, but one of
the 50kw'ers would bleed in if I moved the whip around.

Bass and Treble controls are reversed and the huge knob is not easy to
work with (an UP/DOWN button would have been better).

Audio quality is OK. There is an AUX input jack. The diplay is nice,
if not a little too bright (the backlight stays on with AC... it goes
off after 5 seconds using batteries).

I got mine last Sat, it was the only one in the store.

I guessed the 12-150 was a repackaged Grundig S350, SRIII, or the
original high-performance radio that RS used to carry. I had that
piece-of-crap S350, now returned to RS, and weighing in at just one
pound, as the 12-150, I should have known better (but, it had a pretty
face). Really sick of all the hype and cheap Chinese-made receivers. I
have a $25 RS PLL AM/FM 12-898 (now discontined) that performs as well
as my S350 did. If the 12-150 had a handle similar to the S350, it too
would reek of cheap imitation leather ! Good decision to take that
cheap piece of **** back to RS !

I have an Eton- Grundig S350DL and am quite happy with it. I also recently
purchased the RS 12-150 and am pleased with it also.

The reception is good in both and the sound is quite good.

For MW sensitivity I would give the edge to the 350DL and sound to the
12-150, but each serve my needs.

As for the size and weight of the 12-150 I know that it is listed as
weighing only 15oz on the Radio Shack web site, but the one I have weighs
4lbs 11oz. without batteries and measures 9" w x 12 1/2" w x 4" d.


Both radios only weigh on pound and are cheap pieces of **** !


My 12-150 weighs in at 4 lbs 11 oz sitting on an electronic scale, and that
is without batteries.

As I said, I'm happy with both radios, as they each serve my purpose.


I don't believe you, that weight is with batteries. As a repacked
S350, it only weighs 1 pound, as the spec. sheet states. The 12-150 is
still a cheap piece of ****, with switches that don't work, and a
kludgy tuning dial - I can smell crap from a mile away !


Lou November 16th 06 06:57 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
On 15 Nov 2006 20:17:46 -0800, wrote:

Lou wrote:
On 14 Nov 2006 18:42:32 -0800,
wrote:

Lou wrote:
On 11 Nov 2006 17:43:52 -0800,
wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
RobnzBoy wrote:
The first review:
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6263

This is the same garbage radio, as the S350 !

Stay away from this radio. Quality control problems. With the AM
switched to narrow, the thing is deaf except for a few locals.
Sensitivity improves alot in the WIDE mode, but the tuning shifts... to
tune 880kHz, I have to tune to 890kHz to center it

The FM is also bad... living near two 50kw'ers, the entire band is
useless. The WX picked up the local station 20 miles east, but one of
the 50kw'ers would bleed in if I moved the whip around.

Bass and Treble controls are reversed and the huge knob is not easy to
work with (an UP/DOWN button would have been better).

Audio quality is OK. There is an AUX input jack. The diplay is nice,
if not a little too bright (the backlight stays on with AC... it goes
off after 5 seconds using batteries).

I got mine last Sat, it was the only one in the store.

I guessed the 12-150 was a repackaged Grundig S350, SRIII, or the
original high-performance radio that RS used to carry. I had that
piece-of-crap S350, now returned to RS, and weighing in at just one
pound, as the 12-150, I should have known better (but, it had a pretty
face). Really sick of all the hype and cheap Chinese-made receivers. I
have a $25 RS PLL AM/FM 12-898 (now discontined) that performs as well
as my S350 did. If the 12-150 had a handle similar to the S350, it too
would reek of cheap imitation leather ! Good decision to take that
cheap piece of **** back to RS !

I have an Eton- Grundig S350DL and am quite happy with it. I also recently
purchased the RS 12-150 and am pleased with it also.

The reception is good in both and the sound is quite good.

For MW sensitivity I would give the edge to the 350DL and sound to the
12-150, but each serve my needs.

As for the size and weight of the 12-150 I know that it is listed as
weighing only 15oz on the Radio Shack web site, but the one I have weighs
4lbs 11oz. without batteries and measures 9" w x 12 1/2" w x 4" d.

Both radios only weigh on pound and are cheap pieces of **** !


My 12-150 weighs in at 4 lbs 11 oz sitting on an electronic scale, and that
is without batteries.

As I said, I'm happy with both radios, as they each serve my purpose.


I don't believe you, that weight is with batteries. As a repacked
S350, it only weighs 1 pound, as the spec. sheet states. The 12-150 is
still a cheap piece of ****, with switches that don't work, and a
kludgy tuning dial - I can smell crap from a mile away !




The fact that you don't believe it doesn't change the fact that my 12-150
weighs in at 4 lbs 11 oz without batteries.

And once again, I'm happy with both the 12-150 and the S350DL.

[email protected] November 16th 06 07:35 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 

Lou wrote:
On 15 Nov 2006 20:17:46 -0800, wrote:

Lou wrote:
On 14 Nov 2006 18:42:32 -0800,
wrote:

Lou wrote:
On 11 Nov 2006 17:43:52 -0800,
wrote:

wrote:
wrote:
RobnzBoy wrote:
The first review:
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6263

This is the same garbage radio, as the S350 !

Stay away from this radio. Quality control problems. With the AM
switched to narrow, the thing is deaf except for a few locals.
Sensitivity improves alot in the WIDE mode, but the tuning shifts... to
tune 880kHz, I have to tune to 890kHz to center it

The FM is also bad... living near two 50kw'ers, the entire band is
useless. The WX picked up the local station 20 miles east, but one of
the 50kw'ers would bleed in if I moved the whip around.

Bass and Treble controls are reversed and the huge knob is not easy to
work with (an UP/DOWN button would have been better).

Audio quality is OK. There is an AUX input jack. The diplay is nice,
if not a little too bright (the backlight stays on with AC... it goes
off after 5 seconds using batteries).

I got mine last Sat, it was the only one in the store.

I guessed the 12-150 was a repackaged Grundig S350, SRIII, or the
original high-performance radio that RS used to carry. I had that
piece-of-crap S350, now returned to RS, and weighing in at just one
pound, as the 12-150, I should have known better (but, it had a pretty
face). Really sick of all the hype and cheap Chinese-made receivers. I
have a $25 RS PLL AM/FM 12-898 (now discontined) that performs as well
as my S350 did. If the 12-150 had a handle similar to the S350, it too
would reek of cheap imitation leather ! Good decision to take that
cheap piece of **** back to RS !

I have an Eton- Grundig S350DL and am quite happy with it. I also recently
purchased the RS 12-150 and am pleased with it also.

The reception is good in both and the sound is quite good.

For MW sensitivity I would give the edge to the 350DL and sound to the
12-150, but each serve my needs.

As for the size and weight of the 12-150 I know that it is listed as
weighing only 15oz on the Radio Shack web site, but the one I have weighs
4lbs 11oz. without batteries and measures 9" w x 12 1/2" w x 4" d.

Both radios only weigh on pound and are cheap pieces of **** !

My 12-150 weighs in at 4 lbs 11 oz sitting on an electronic scale, and that
is without batteries.

As I said, I'm happy with both radios, as they each serve my purpose.


I don't believe you, that weight is with batteries. As a repacked
S350, it only weighs 1 pound, as the spec. sheet states. The 12-150 is
still a cheap piece of ****, with switches that don't work, and a
kludgy tuning dial - I can smell crap from a mile away !




The fact that you don't believe it doesn't change the fact that my 12-150
weighs in at 4 lbs 11 oz without batteries.

And once again, I'm happy with both the 12-150 and the S350DL.


I still don't believe you - the S350 only weighs on pound and the
12-150 is a repackaged S350, so there is no way - you just keep
forgetting to take the batteries out. My $25 RS PLL AM/FM radio is just
as sensitive as the over-hyped S350, which I happily returned to RS,
The S350 suffers from drifting, images galore, is cheap plastic, has
cheap switches, has a smelly imitation-leather handle, an a bunch of
switches that are all hype and cheap, a plastic speaker grill, an
antenna that flops and doesn't lock into place, and a low-resolution
display - the list goes on and on ! The 12-150 is just like the cheap
piece of **** SRIII - I read a review on eham.net that the 12-150's
wide/narrow switch shorted out and the reado is no better than standard
AM/FM radios. The SRIII's switched fall off ! Enjoy, sucker !


[email protected] November 16th 06 08:05 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 

As I said, I'm happy with both radios, as they each serve my purpose.


I don't believe you, that weight is with batteries. As a repacked
S350, it only weighs 1 pound, as the spec. sheet states. The 12-150 is
still a cheap piece of ****, with switches that don't work, and a
kludgy tuning dial - I can smell crap from a mile away !




The fact that you don't believe it doesn't change the fact that my 12-150
weighs in at 4 lbs 11 oz without batteries.

And once again, I'm happy with both the 12-150 and the S350DL.


The S350 series is a fine radio for the money and it does what it was
intended to. Which is to provide good sounding audio from stations
broadcasting on AM, shortwave and FM on a radio that is designed for
straightforward operation using no superfluous controls.

How does the AM and FM performance on the 12-150 compare with the
Grundig.


Michael Black November 16th 06 08:11 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 
) writes:

I still don't believe you - the S350 only weighs on pound and the
12-150 is a repackaged S350, so there is no way - you just keep
forgetting to take the batteries out. My $25 RS PLL AM/FM radio is just
as sensitive as the over-hyped S350, which I happily returned to RS,
The S350 suffers from drifting, images galore, is cheap plastic, has
cheap switches, has a smelly imitation-leather handle, an a bunch of
switches that are all hype and cheap, a plastic speaker grill, an
antenna that flops and doesn't lock into place, and a low-resolution
display - the list goes on and on ! The 12-150 is just like the cheap
piece of **** SRIII - I read a review on eham.net that the 12-150's
wide/narrow switch shorted out and the reado is no better than standard
AM/FM radios. The SRIII's switched fall off ! Enjoy, sucker !

The more you post about this, the more you look like a fool.

How can a radio that has synthesized tuning be an S350 that has
analog tuning?

The S350 has analog tuning, and a frequency counter readout. That's
where at least some of the celebrated drift comes from.

But according to Radio Shack (and various people's comments about
the tuning steps) the 12-150 has synthesized tuning.

That is a pretty blatant difference.

ANd once they make that sort of "mod", there is little reason to
even believe there is anything in common between the two radios.

You should have stuck with the line about how they are equally bad,
because whether or not that is true, it's more true than claiming
the radios are the same.

Michael



[email protected] November 16th 06 08:12 PM

Anyone using RS 12-150 AM/FM/WX radio?
 

jamman wrote:
I posted earlier after buying the Radio Shack 12-150 ... and I'll be
the first to admit that this radio was my first foray into DX ... but
I've been disappointed in the radio overall. It has a simplistic
attractiveness to it, and it has PLL, but the knobs are real cheap
plastic (and will probably have a short lifespan!) and the reception
hasn't been as great as I'd hoped for a radio that was boasted as being
"extreme range." The SW capabilities are very weak, but that might be
my inexperience.


Don't think the 12-150 covers shortwave. Probably accounts for it's
poor performance on those bands....!!



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