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N9OGL November 3rd 06 07:13 PM

Omega One Radio is back on the air
 
Omega One Radio is back on the air, on 13.556.00 MHz LSB, with a power
output of 100 watts.

Todd N9OGL
OMEGA ONBE RADIO
13.556.00 MHz LSB


Slow Code November 4th 06 12:17 AM

Omega One Radio is back on the air
 
"N9OGL" wrote in
oups.com:

Omega One Radio is back on the air, on 13.556.00 MHz LSB, with a power
output of 100 watts.

Todd N9OGL
OMEGA ONBE RADIO
13.556.00 MHz LSB



I thought that might be your ****ty music.

Welcome back.

SC

K4YZ November 6th 06 09:18 AM

Omega One Radio is back on the air
 

N9OGL wrote:
Omega One Radio is back on the air, on 13.556.00 MHz LSB, with a power
output of 100 watts.

Todd N9OGL
OMEGA ONBE RADIO
13.556.00 MHz LSB


Hey Toiddie...I forwarded this to Monitoring Times for you so they
could get the story about you straight!

You can thank me later.

Steve, K4YZ


olekinghole9007 November 6th 06 03:27 PM

Omega One Radio is back on the air
 

N9OGL wrote:
Omega One Radio is back on the air, on 13.556.00 MHz LSB, with a power
output of 100 watts.


Been listening on and off since the original posting
above and NEVER heard it once. Just heard some
commercial USB around 13.551 that sounded like
marine traffic from Europe. Apart from that, it's been
dead air static on 13.556 LSB.

Conclusion: Omega One Radio exists in your head.
(The phone calls are comming from INSIDE the house
folks...)

Get help Todd. Or go back to the Legion Hall and drown yer sorrows
in those cheap suds at 10:00 AM like the rest of the barstools do....


N9OGL November 6th 06 09:57 PM

Omega One Radio is back on the air
 

olekinghole9007 wrote:
N9OGL wrote:
Omega One Radio is back on the air, on 13.556.00 MHz LSB, with a power
output of 100 watts.


Been listening on and off since the original posting
above and NEVER heard it once. Just heard some
commercial USB around 13.551 that sounded like
marine traffic from Europe. Apart from that, it's been
dead air static on 13.556 LSB.

Conclusion: Omega One Radio exists in your head.
(The phone calls are comming from INSIDE the house
folks...)

Get help Todd. Or go back to the Legion Hall and drown yer sorrows
in those cheap suds at 10:00 AM like the rest of the barstools do....


I don't drink you stupid ****....and it's there, maybe your mommy can
show you how to work your reciever.


Todd N9OGL
OMEGA ONE RADIO
13.556.00 LSB


N9OGL November 7th 06 12:31 AM

Omega One Radio is back on the air
 

K4YZ wrote:
N9OGL wrote:
Omega One Radio is back on the air, on 13.556.00 MHz LSB, with a power
output of 100 watts.

Todd N9OGL
OMEGA ONBE RADIO
13.556.00 MHz LSB


Hey Toiddie...I forwarded this to Monitoring Times for you so they
could get the story about you straight!

You can thank me later.

Steve, K4YZ


Steve, I suggest you read Part 15, Part 15 has nothing to do with power
(in Wattage) it has to do with the field strength (maininly the
electrical field of the electromaganetic wave) you can put out 100
watts and still have the field strength as prescribed under part 15 (on
13.556 MHz it 15,848 microvolts per meter at a distance of 30 meters
(90 Feet) CB radio's which run 4 - 5 watts is 10,000 microvolts per
meter at 30 meters.....but you wouldn't know anything about that now
would you??

Todd N9OGL
OMEGA ONE RADIO
13.556.00 MHz. LSB


N9OGL November 7th 06 01:19 AM

Omega One Radio is back on the air
 

wrote:
On 6 Nov 2006 16:31:39 -0800, "N9OGL" wrote:


K4YZ wrote:
N9OGL wrote:
Omega One Radio is back on the air, on 13.556.00 MHz LSB, with a power
output of 100 watts.

Todd N9OGL
OMEGA ONBE RADIO
13.556.00 MHz LSB

Hey Toiddie...I forwarded this to Monitoring Times for you so they
could get the story about you straight!

You can thank me later.

Steve, K4YZ


Steve, I suggest you read Part 15, Part 15 has nothing to do with power
(in Wattage) it has to do with the field strength (maininly the
electrical field of the electromaganetic wave) you can put out 100
watts and still have the field strength as prescribed under part 15 (on
13.556 MHz it 15,848 microvolts per meter at a distance of 30 meters
(90 Feet) CB radio's which run 4 - 5 watts is 10,000 microvolts per
meter at 30 meters.....but you wouldn't know anything about that now
would you??

steve can't read unless it is morse code and even then not if it
disturbs his preconceived notions

Todd N9OGL
OMEGA ONE RADIO
13.556.00 MHz. LSB

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That's the problem with ham operators, they are use to working with
wattage, under part 15 it's a little different. I know I guy who builts
part 15 device and has done for 15 to 20 years now and he tell you the
same thing I told steve, but again hey stebie is a ham and only mess
with wattage.

Todd N9OGL
OMEGA ONE RADIO
13.556.00 MHz. LSB


Stagger Lee November 7th 06 11:47 PM

Omega One Radio is back on the air
 
On 6 Nov 2006 16:31:39 -0800, N9OGL wrote:
:
: Steve, I suggest you read Part 15, Part 15 has nothing to do with power
: (in Wattage) it has to do with the field strength (maininly the
: electrical field of the electromaganetic wave) you can put out 100
: watts and still have the field strength as prescribed under part 15 (on
: 13.556 MHz it 15,848 microvolts per meter at a distance of 30 meters
: (90 Feet) CB radio's which run 4 - 5 watts is 10,000 microvolts per
: meter at 30 meters.....but you wouldn't know anything about that now

Odd. If you take the formula for an isotropic radiator emitting P
watts and solve it for the electric field, e, you come up with
e = sqr(30*P)/r at a distance of "r" meters (see my earlier posts).

For a power of 5 watts at a distance of 30 meters, that becomes

e = sqr(30*5)/30 = 0.408 volts/meter = 408,000 microvolts/meter.

That number is 400 times larger than the value you quoted. Where in the
heck are you obtaining figures like 10,000 microvolts/meter? Have you
been consulting Woger again?

Stagger Lee November 8th 06 03:28 AM

Omega One Radio is back on the air
 
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:48:10 -0500, wrote:
: On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:47:02 +0000 (UTC), Stagger Lee
: wrote:
:
: On 6 Nov 2006 16:31:39 -0800, N9OGL wrote:
: :
: : Steve, I suggest you read Part 15, Part 15 has nothing to do with power
: : (in Wattage) it has to do with the field strength (maininly the
: : electrical field of the electromaganetic wave) you can put out 100
: : watts and still have the field strength as prescribed under part 15 (on
: : 13.556 MHz it 15,848 microvolts per meter at a distance of 30 meters
: : (90 Feet) CB radio's which run 4 - 5 watts is 10,000 microvolts per
: : meter at 30 meters.....but you wouldn't know anything about that now
:
: Odd. If you take the formula for an isotropic radiator emitting P
: watts and solve it for the electric field, e, you come up with
: e = sqr(30*P)/r at a distance of "r" meters (see my earlier posts).
:
: what is odd is that you keep leaving the apporoate contants that
: adjust for the presence of AIR (amoug other thing

Air and vacuum have nearly identical permittivity and permeability -
the properties which control the impedance of air and of free space
and which in turn relate electric field strength to the spatial power
density. It sounds to me as though you are simply blowing smoke and
have no real understanding of what you just attempted to write.

Todd is operating illegally. No amount of bloviating can make that
fact go away. Deal with it.

Stagger Lee November 8th 06 12:07 PM

Omega One Radio is back on the air
 
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:08:19 -0500, wrote:
: On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 03:28:13 +0000 (UTC), Stagger Lee
: wrote:
:
: On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:48:10 -0500,
wrote:
: : On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:47:02 +0000 (UTC), Stagger Lee
: : wrote:
: :
: : On 6 Nov 2006 16:31:39 -0800, N9OGL wrote:
: : :
: : : Steve, I suggest you read Part 15, Part 15 has nothing to do with power
: : : (in Wattage) it has to do with the field strength (maininly the
: : : electrical field of the electromaganetic wave) you can put out 100
: : : watts and still have the field strength as prescribed under part 15 (on
: : : 13.556 MHz it 15,848 microvolts per meter at a distance of 30 meters
: : : (90 Feet) CB radio's which run 4 - 5 watts is 10,000 microvolts per
: : : meter at 30 meters.....but you wouldn't know anything about that now
: :
: : Odd. If you take the formula for an isotropic radiator emitting P
: : watts and solve it for the electric field, e, you come up with
: : e = sqr(30*P)/r at a distance of "r" meters (see my earlier posts).
: :
: : what is odd is that you keep leaving the apporoate contants that
: : adjust for the presence of AIR (amoug other thing
:
: Air and vacuum have nearly identical permittivity and permeability -
: the properties which control the impedance of air and of free space
: and which in turn relate electric field strength to the spatial power
: density. It sounds to me as though you are simply blowing smoke and
: have no real understanding of what you just attempted to write.
:
: you are the one without any idea idea of what you are writting
:
: you simply have NO understanding of Gausses law which deteremines
: electircal feild strength

Wrong. In the case of an electromagnetic field, Gauss' law is only
one of four equations (Maxwell's equations) that are needed to
determine the electric field strength. Since a changing magnetic
field can produce an electric field too (Faraday's law), Gauss' law is
not enough. The only time it is sufficient is in the electrostatic
case.

Fortunately, the case under discussion doesn't require the solution of
a set of partial differential equations (Maxwell's equations), because
the solution has been incorporated into the idea of the impedance of
free space. That includes the permittivity of the medium (as used by
Gauss' law) plus the permeability of the medium, and it allows one to
express the power density in space with an Ohm's law type of equation
that involves only the electric field and the impedance.

That simple equation says that 5 watts of radiated power will produce
an electric field strength which is 40 times larger than that claimed
by N9OGL. That's why I asked him if he'd been consulting with Woger
again.

Perhaps he's been consulting with you instead. You just got an "F"
in electromagnetics.


====================
God said, "div D = rho, div B = 0, curl E = -@B/@t, curl H = J + @D/@t,"
and then there was light.

N9OGL November 8th 06 04:30 PM

Omega One Radio is back on the air
 

Stagger Lee wrote:
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:48:10 -0500, wrote:
: On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 23:47:02 +0000 (UTC), Stagger Lee
: wrote:
:
: On 6 Nov 2006 16:31:39 -0800, N9OGL wrote:
: :
: : Steve, I suggest you read Part 15, Part 15 has nothing to do with power
: : (in Wattage) it has to do with the field strength (maininly the
: : electrical field of the electromaganetic wave) you can put out 100
: : watts and still have the field strength as prescribed under part 15 (on
: : 13.556 MHz it 15,848 microvolts per meter at a distance of 30 meters
: : (90 Feet) CB radio's which run 4 - 5 watts is 10,000 microvolts per
: : meter at 30 meters.....but you wouldn't know anything about that now
:
: Odd. If you take the formula for an isotropic radiator emitting P
: watts and solve it for the electric field, e, you come up with
: e = sqr(30*P)/r at a distance of "r" meters (see my earlier posts).
:
: what is odd is that you keep leaving the apporoate contants that
: adjust for the presence of AIR (amoug other thing

Air and vacuum have nearly identical permittivity and permeability -
the properties which control the impedance of air and of free space
and which in turn relate electric field strength to the spatial power
density. It sounds to me as though you are simply blowing smoke and
have no real understanding of what you just attempted to write.

Todd is operating illegally. No amount of bloviating can make that
fact go away. Deal with it.




If you think that, then complain, if not shut the hell up, bottom line
is when the FCC Does (if they every will) come and check it and it's
within the rules your going to be the one with eggs on his face.
Everyone on here will know it.

Todd N9OGL
OMEGA ONE RADIO


Stagger Lee November 9th 06 01:54 AM

Omega One Radio is back on the air
 
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:50:55 -0500, wrote:
: One Guass governs eltrostatic and electro dynamic cases as well One
: normaly learns the the electrostatic case case first
:
: FOOLs like you don't bother to learn more
:
: but you have failed to account for the fact in any RF mattter power
: dvideds beteween the elictric and Magnetic and then the 2 regenerate
: each other (with some path loss
:
: in short you can't profrom a calution worth doing without more than
: data than you have and more equation

The result of solving Maxwell's equations for the radiated field is
that the electric field strength in volts / meter can be used to
compute the power density in watts per square meter by means of the
simple equation

P = e^2 / (120*Pi)

120*Pi is the impedance of free space, as obtained from Maxwell's
equations.

Now that happens to be a pretty complete equation, and it can indeed
be used as it stands to figure out which power density, P, corresponds
to a particular r.m.s. electric field, e. You can also solve the
equation for "e" if you want to calculate the electric field when you
already know the power density. It is a steady-state solution, and it
excludes non-radiating fields (the so-called near field), but it is
good enough for most initial calculations.

So, no, one doesn't need additional equations, and one doesn't need
to worry about power division between the electric and magnetic
fields. That's already been included in the formula given above.

: none of which matter either

They only don't matter because you have the details wrong. If we
tried to get at the radiated field strength your way, we'd never get
an answer at all.

: what matters is the measurable filed strangth

If you can't estimate the field strength beforehand, then you CAN'T
possibly come up with a good initial station design. You'd have to
put something up and hope it works out. I suspect that's exactly what
Todd has done, and it is a very dangerous way to operate.

: to determine if Todd is legal or not you MUST prefrom the test and
: till that is done Innocent till found guility is ther Law

If the calculations suggest that Todd is very probably exceeding the
legal electric field strenth (and they do), it is something that no
sane station operator should ignore. Calculations are inexpensive: A
certified field strength meter is not, and a NAL is even costlier.

Not Cocksucker Lloyd November 9th 06 01:08 PM

Omega One Radio is back on the air
 

Saggytits Lee plagiarized and added a few of his own comments to make
it look like he wrote the whole thing again:
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:50:55 -0500, wrote:
: One Guass governs eltrostatic and electro dynamic cases as well One
: normaly learns the the electrostatic case case first
:
: FOOLs like you don't bother to learn more
:
: but you have failed to account for the fact in any RF mattter power
: dvideds beteween the elictric and Magnetic and then the 2 regenerate
: each other (with some path loss
:
: in short you can't profrom a calution worth doing without more than
: data than you have and more equation

The result of solving


Saggytits plagiarizes some more. Poor Saggytits.



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