Tester wrote:
On 16 Nov 2006 09:40:21 -0800, "bpnjensen"
wrote:

Astro wrote:
Chinese Defector Talks about the Influence of VOA

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-11-15/48155.html

When I've looked at the dead tree version of Epoch Times which can be
found in street boxes in NYC, I got the impression that it's
associated with the Falun Gang religious sect. That doesn't make an
article false but you should take this into account. The Falun Gang
organization and the Communist Party of China both seek each other's
destruction and, at least according to literature given out at FG
demonstrations, the CPC and the PRC government have used torture and
murder against the FG.

Frankly, I'll take the Falun Gong over the CPC any day of the week and
twice on Fridays. There is absolutely no moral equivalency there -
they are morally 180 degrees out of phase.

Bruce Jensen

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Tester wrote:
On 16 Nov 2006 09:40:21 -0800, "bpnjensen"
wrote:

Astro wrote:
Chinese Defector Talks about the Influence of VOA

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-11-15/48155.html

When I've looked at the dead tree version of Epoch Times which can be
found in street boxes in NYC, I got the impression that it's
associated with the Falun Gang religious sect. That doesn't make an
article false but you should take this into account. The Falun Gang
organization and the Communist Party of China both seek each other's
destruction and, at least according to literature given out at FG
demonstrations, the CPC and the PRC government have used torture and
murder against the FG.

Frankly, I'll take the Falun Gong over the CPC any day of the week and
twice on Fridays. There is absolutely no moral equivalency there -
they are morally 180 degrees out of phase.

Bruce Jensen


You describe Falun Gong as a sect. Have either of you met a Falun Gong
member and conversed with them? You will often find them demonstrating in
front of Chinese consulates and embassies worldwide. Go there and talk to
them and then tell me they are a "sect."

Falun Gong is very similiar to Yoga and other Asian excercise/meditation.
To call it a "sect" reveals how much the Communist Party propaganda has
permeated Western thought.

Astro wrote:

You describe Falun Gong as a sect. Have either of you met a Falun Gong
member and conversed with them? You will often find them demonstrating in
front of Chinese consulates and embassies worldwide. Go there and talk to
them and then tell me they are a "sect."

Not me - it was the other guy.

Falun Gong is very similiar to Yoga and other Asian excercise/meditation.
To call it a "sect" reveals how much the Communist Party propaganda has
permeated Western thought.

I consider it a philosophy (not a perfect one, but better than
hard-line Marxism), and the fact that it is practiced by *very* many
people (more Falun Gong worldwide than Jews, for example) lifts it out
of the sect department, anyway.

Bruce Jensen

On 17 Nov 2006 08:32:54 -0800, "bpnjensen"
wrote:

I consider it a philosophy (not a perfect one, but better than
hard-line Marxism), and the fact that it is practiced by *very* many
people (more Falun Gong worldwide than Jews, for example) lifts it out
of the sect department, anyway.

A very close acquaintance of mine grew up in and lived in mainland
China until a few years ago. She certainly has no shortage of unkind
things to say about the Chinese government. On the other hand, she's
about equally unimpressed with the Falun Gong movement.

This is getting off-topic for R.R.S. (so what else is new?) but there
are legitimate criticisms of the Falun Gong. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critici...out_Falun_Gong
for a long and even-handed discussion of the subject, particularly the
"Is Falun Gong a Cult?" section.

My enemy's enemy is not necessarily my friend.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cr...about_Falun_Go
ng
NOTE: "This page is currently protected from editing [by whom???] until
disputes have been resolved... Protection is not an endorsement of the
current page version."

In the non-vetted world of "Wiki-NOT_AN_ENCYCLO-Pedia", the description of
Falun Gong can equally be applied to Jesus Christ and Muhammad. Therefore,
Christianity and Islam is also a cult. Which explains why only the Chinese
Communist Party run catholic church and its version of the bible and
teachings are allowed in China.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong


"MAS" wrote in message
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On 17 Nov 2006 08:32:54 -0800, "bpnjensen"
wrote:

I consider it a philosophy (not a perfect one, but better than
hard-line Marxism), and the fact that it is practiced by *very* many
people (more Falun Gong worldwide than Jews, for example) lifts it out
of the sect department, anyway.

A very close acquaintance of mine grew up in and lived in mainland
China until a few years ago. She certainly has no shortage of unkind
things to say about the Chinese government. On the other hand, she's
about equally unimpressed with the Falun Gong movement.

This is getting off-topic for R.R.S. (so what else is new?) but there
are legitimate criticisms of the Falun Gong. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critici...out_Falun_Gong
for a long and even-handed discussion of the subject, particularly the
"Is Falun Gong a Cult?" section.

My enemy's enemy is not necessarily my friend.

No Supprise: Interpol Chief Says Europe Not Fighting Terror.
www.debbieschlussel.com

Then,they deserve what they get.
cuhulin

del.icio.us wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cr...about_Falun_Go
ng
NOTE: "This page is currently protected from editing [by whom???] until
disputes have been resolved... Protection is not an endorsement of the
current page version."

In the non-vetted world of "Wiki-NOT_AN_ENCYCLO-Pedia", the description of
Falun Gong can equally be applied to Jesus Christ and Muhammad. Therefore,
Christianity and Islam is also a cult.

Alas I'm not aware of Christianity teaching racial purity. Do you know
FLG's living God, Master Li, claims Jesus only saves white people, and
interracial children are end-time (dharma-ending) degeneration?

I won't cite you wikipedia. Read Master Li's lecture on "interracial
children" for yourself - right out of FLG's own website:

http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/xnjf1.htm

Which explains why only the Chinese
Communist Party run catholic church and its version of the bible and
teachings are allowed in China.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong


"MAS" wrote in message
...
On 17 Nov 2006 08:32:54 -0800, "bpnjensen"
wrote:

I consider it a philosophy (not a perfect one, but better than
hard-line Marxism), and the fact that it is practiced by *very* many
people (more Falun Gong worldwide than Jews, for example) lifts it out
of the sect department, anyway.

A very close acquaintance of mine grew up in and lived in mainland
China until a few years ago. She certainly has no shortage of unkind
things to say about the Chinese government. On the other hand, she's
about equally unimpressed with the Falun Gong movement.

This is getting off-topic for R.R.S. (so what else is new?) but there
are legitimate criticisms of the Falun Gong. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critici...out_Falun_Gong
for a long and even-handed discussion of the subject, particularly the
"Is Falun Gong a Cult?" section.

My enemy's enemy is not necessarily my friend.

wrote

Alas I'm not aware of Christianity teaching racial purity. Do you know
FLG's living God, Master Li, claims Jesus only saves white people, and
interracial children are end-time (dharma-ending) degeneration?

I won't cite you wikipedia. Read Master Li's lecture on "interracial
children" for yourself - right out of FLG's own website:

http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/xnjf1.htm


So what! Did he say which race should remain pure?
Perhaps you would prefer sharia.

MAS wrote:
On 17 Nov 2006 08:32:54 -0800, "bpnjensen"
wrote:

I consider it a philosophy (not a perfect one, but better than
hard-line Marxism), and the fact that it is practiced by *very* many
people (more Falun Gong worldwide than Jews, for example) lifts it out
of the sect department, anyway.

A very close acquaintance of mine grew up in and lived in mainland
China until a few years ago. She certainly has no shortage of unkind
things to say about the Chinese government. On the other hand, she's
about equally unimpressed with the Falun Gong movement.

This is getting off-topic for R.R.S. (so what else is new?) but there
are legitimate criticisms of the Falun Gong. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critici...out_Falun_Gong
for a long and even-handed discussion of the subject, particularly the
"Is Falun Gong a Cult?" section.

My enemy's enemy is not necessarily my friend.

Yes, thanks, I have had a look at that site, among others. You are
right, and I do not disagree - but in the USA we do not persecute and
execute KKK members because of their beliefs and philosophy - in fact,
we sometimes go out of our way to protect their rights, as painful as
it may be - and there is no need for the Communists to do this to the
FG. People with screwy beliefs, I can live with. Institutionalized
murder, I cannot.

Bruce Jensen

On Nov 17, 8:32 am, "bpnjensen" wrote:
Astro wrote:
You describe Falun Gong as a sect. Have either of you met a Falun Gong
member and conversed with them? You will often find them demonstrating in
front of Chinese consulates and embassies worldwide. Go there and talk to
them and then tell me they are a "sect."Not me - it was the other guy.

Falun Gong is very similiar to Yoga and other Asian excercise/meditation.
To call it a "sect" reveals how much the Communist Party propaganda has
permeated Western thought.I consider it a philosophy (not a perfect one, but better than
hard-line Marxism), and the fact that it is practiced by *very* many
people (more Falun Gong worldwide than Jews, for example) lifts it out
of the sect department, anyway.

Bruce Jensen

(more Falun Gong worldwide than Jews, for example)

More practicing Falun Gong members worldwide
than practicing members of the Jewish Faith

ABOUT - FALUN GONG - FALUN DAFA -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong
http://www.falundafa.org/eng/overview.htm
- - - What It Is + What It Does -and- Why ? ? ?
The Chinese Cummunist Government (PRC) Is So Terrified Of It !
http://www.religioustolerance.org/falungong.htm

ABOUT - JUDAISM - JEWISH FAITH - TORAH
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Principles_of_Faith
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah

We Should All Practice What We Preach !
http://www.practicingourfaith.org/
-Or- Learn to Keep Our Mouths Shut [.]

yes - i said that ~ RHF