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In a recent receiver article, Phil of R75 fame made some negative comments
on the TT RX-340. I asked my friend who is an RX-340 expert to comment. these are not my comments but the source is someone whose opinion is above question on this subject. Unless you have really used and understand the 340, you don't know what you are talking about. here is what he wrote me: ********************************* What is he talking about? He NEVER has tried an RX-340, or any of the other radios he compares in his charts OTHER THAN that OVERRATED R-75. He has his head up his ass on the following issues: 1. The RX-340, he says, has poor dynamic range. This declaration is deceptive! In truth, the dynamic range of the 340 is excellent in almost every aspect except in one type of monitoring condition in which it IS poor: in VERY CLOSE-IN conditions--less than 2KHz--under extreme duress. In those instances, yes, the d r is poor! He's right only in these instances. Fortunately for any RX-340 user, these conditions rarely are encountered because the filtering is superb, the front end is excellent, and blocking is good. Here's an example of where the RX-340's d r WILL behave poorly. Let's say you have an RX-340. You have it attached to a high-performance, outside antenna. You are tuned to 882 kHz trying to hear a very weak transatlantic/transpacific medium wave signal from half-way around the world at s3 or s4 on your meter. You are located in Eastchester NY, only 6 miles away from 50 KW WCBS NYC on 880 kHz, just two kHz away from the weak station you are after and they are hitting your s-meter at 80 db over s-9. (BTW, that's a rock-crushingly strong signal next to a weakling of a signal.) With this being the case the 340 will, very annoyingly, splatter out the weak signal and will most likely "de-sense" for about 5 kHz on either side of 880 kHz. Not good. So, yes, Phil is right to criticize the 340 as having poor d r, but only under these circumstances. It is a limitation of the 16 bit DSP processor in the 340 being compromised in this aspect of performance. 2. Phil says the RX-340 has fair audio. Never having had any real-world, hands on experience with an 340 he relies on a discredited internet report by written by Jan Alverstad of Norway. This report was discredited by REAL RX-340 owners because Alverstad admits to not spending the proper amount of time needed to adjust and learn the radio!! So he makes a report slamming the audio in narrow SSB as poor when he didn't know that the AGC, the Variable IF Gain control and the PBT MUST be "set-up" BEFORE you can recover good audio. He would have had better results if he bothered to spend time reading the manual. No, the 340 is not hard at all to use. It doesn't take a lot of time to learn it. But you cannot just use it out of the box like you can with most other radios. The first-time 340 user HAS to read the manual first--it's friggin' common sense on a complicated, unconventional radio!! The audio, especially in SSB is not just good, it is outstanding. Refer to Larry Magne's review in PWBR in regards to what he calls "breathtakingly low distortion in SSB." 3. The SAM is fair, Phil says. In my opinion, he's right to a certain extent. But it isn't ALWAYS fair. Most of the time, about 80 percent of the time, the SAM works well, but not as well as the R8-B. The 340 synch quirks has been well-documented by PWBR, 340 "gurus" Albert Belle Isle and Carl Moreschi, and by myself on eHam. And as for the remaining 20 percent of the time? The SAM is indeed only fair. This is because when the desired signal goes into a rapid, deep fade, the synch "lets go" of the signal causing a disruptive clicking which grows tiresome and distracting. Using a long hang time setting helps iron this out considerably. There is another situation--part of the 20 percent--that causes the SAM to misbehave. When there is an extremely, key word: extremely, strong, nearby signal 5 kHz away from the one you are tuned to, the synch throws a fit. It starts to "pop" and "screech" loudly. Really no excuse for a great radio to have. TenTec failed on this. But overall the synch is just OK. This feature is the 340's major fault; it's ONLY major fault luckily. What redeems the 340 and prevents me from hating it for its fair synch is that the radio delivers outstanding manual ECSS, better than any other radio I have ever owned. When all of the parameters are properly adjusted--PBT, AGC speed, IF Gain setting, BW--the recovered audio is similar to the audio of the HF-225 with its synch on and in the HiFI mode. 4. The internal speaker is poor. No qualms here, he's right. But big ****ting deal. Who wants to use a small 3" top-firing speaker on a $4,000 radio? Put a REALLY good speaker on the 340--I use and LOVE the Sounds Sweet--and you'll be happy. 5. The display, Phil says, is fair. WHAT??? The display is a thing of beauty. The readablitlty is great; the S-Meter is very large and pleasing and esay to read and is professional and accurate. The contrast/brightness is fully adjustable. The read-out is HUGE. Why does he say that the display is fair? He never sat in fron of a 340 so where does he get his info from? Phil, not having any hands-on, real-world experience using an 340, takes ANECDOTAL information from PWBR and on-line reviews and publishes them out of context. This is the most egregious thing to do when claiming to be writing a review of receiver performance specs. It is a disservice to the hobby! |
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![]() mike maghakian wrote: In a recent receiver article, Phil of R75 fame made some negative comments on the TT RX-340. I asked my friend who is an RX-340 expert to comment. these are not my comments but the source is someone whose opinion is above question on this subject. Unless you have really used and understand the 340, you don't know what you are talking about. I used one for about a month. It went back home to Tennessee. All I can really say is that that's some pretty expensive sheet metal work. here is what he wrote me: ********************************* What is he talking about? He NEVER has tried an RX-340, or any of the other radios he compares in his charts OTHER THAN that OVERRATED R-75. He has his head up his ass on the following issues: 1. The RX-340, he says, has poor dynamic range. This declaration is deceptive! In truth, the dynamic range of the 340 is excellent in almost every aspect except in one type of monitoring condition in which it IS poor: in VERY CLOSE-IN conditions--less than 2KHz--under extreme duress. In those instances, yes, the d r is poor! He's right only in these instances. Fortunately for any RX-340 user, these conditions rarely are encountered because the filtering is superb, the front end is excellent, and blocking is good. Here's an example of where the RX-340's d r WILL behave poorly. Let's say you have an RX-340. You have it attached to a high-performance, outside antenna. You are tuned to 882 kHz trying to hear a very weak transatlantic/transpacific medium wave signal from half-way around the world at s3 or s4 on your meter. You are located in Eastchester NY, only 6 miles away from 50 KW WCBS NYC on 880 kHz, just two kHz away from the weak station you are after and they are hitting your s-meter at 80 db over s-9. (BTW, that's a rock-crushingly strong signal next to a weakling of a signal.) With this being the case the 340 will, very annoyingly, splatter out the weak signal and will most likely "de-sense" for about 5 kHz on either side of 880 kHz. Not good. So, yes, Phil is right to criticize the 340 as having poor d r, but only under these circumstances. It is a limitation of the 16 bit DSP processor in the 340 being compromised in this aspect of performance. 2. Phil says the RX-340 has fair audio. Never having had any real-world, hands on experience with an 340 he relies on a discredited internet report by written by Jan Alverstad of Norway. This report was discredited by REAL RX-340 owners because Alverstad admits to not spending the proper amount of time needed to adjust and learn the radio!! So he makes a report slamming the audio in narrow SSB as poor when he didn't know that the AGC, the Variable IF Gain control and the PBT MUST be "set-up" BEFORE you can recover good audio. He would have had better results if he bothered to spend time reading the manual. No, the 340 is not hard at all to use. It doesn't take a lot of time to learn it. But you cannot just use it out of the box like you can with most other radios. The first-time 340 user HAS to read the manual first--it's friggin' common sense on a complicated, unconventional radio!! The audio, especially in SSB is not just good, it is outstanding. Refer to Larry Magne's review in PWBR in regards to what he calls "breathtakingly low distortion in SSB." 3. The SAM is fair, Phil says. In my opinion, he's right to a certain extent. But it isn't ALWAYS fair. Most of the time, about 80 percent of the time, the SAM works well, but not as well as the R8-B. The 340 synch quirks has been well-documented by PWBR, 340 "gurus" Albert Belle Isle and Carl Moreschi, and by myself on eHam. And as for the remaining 20 percent of the time? The SAM is indeed only fair. This is because when the desired signal goes into a rapid, deep fade, the synch "lets go" of the signal causing a disruptive clicking which grows tiresome and distracting. Using a long hang time setting helps iron this out considerably. There is another situation--part of the 20 percent--that causes the SAM to misbehave. When there is an extremely, key word: extremely, strong, nearby signal 5 kHz away from the one you are tuned to, the synch throws a fit. It starts to "pop" and "screech" loudly. Really no excuse for a great radio to have. TenTec failed on this. But overall the synch is just OK. This feature is the 340's major fault; it's ONLY major fault luckily. What redeems the 340 and prevents me from hating it for its fair synch is that the radio delivers outstanding manual ECSS, better than any other radio I have ever owned. When all of the parameters are properly adjusted--PBT, AGC speed, IF Gain setting, BW--the recovered audio is similar to the audio of the HF-225 with its synch on and in the HiFI mode. 4. The internal speaker is poor. No qualms here, he's right. But big ****ting deal. Who wants to use a small 3" top-firing speaker on a $4,000 radio? Put a REALLY good speaker on the 340--I use and LOVE the Sounds Sweet--and you'll be happy. 5. The display, Phil says, is fair. WHAT??? The display is a thing of beauty. The readablitlty is great; the S-Meter is very large and pleasing and esay to read and is professional and accurate. The contrast/brightness is fully adjustable. The read-out is HUGE. Why does he say that the display is fair? He never sat in fron of a 340 so where does he get his info from? Phil, not having any hands-on, real-world experience using an 340, takes ANECDOTAL information from PWBR and on-line reviews and publishes them out of context. This is the most egregious thing to do when claiming to be writing a review of receiver performance specs. It is a disservice to the hobby! |
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![]() mike maghakian wrote: In a recent receiver article, Phil of R75 fame made some negative comments on the TT RX-340. I asked my friend who is an RX-340 expert to comment. these are not my comments but the source is someone whose opinion is above question on this subject. Unless you have really used and understand the 340, you don't know what you are talking about. here is what he wrote me: ********************************* What is he talking about? He NEVER has tried an RX-340, or any of the other radios he compares in his charts OTHER THAN that OVERRATED R-75. He has his head up his ass on the following issues: 1. The RX-340, he says, has poor dynamic range. This declaration is deceptive! In truth, the dynamic range of the 340 is excellent in almost every aspect except in one type of monitoring condition in which it IS poor: in VERY CLOSE-IN conditions--less than 2KHz--under extreme duress. In those instances, yes, the d r is poor! He's right only in these instances. Fortunately for any RX-340 user, these conditions rarely are encountered because the filtering is superb, the front end is excellent, and blocking is good. Here's an example of where the RX-340's d r WILL behave poorly. Let's say you have an RX-340. You have it attached to a high-performance, outside antenna. You are tuned to 882 kHz trying to hear a very weak transatlantic/transpacific medium wave signal from half-way around the world at s3 or s4 on your meter. You are located in Eastchester NY, only 6 miles away from 50 KW WCBS NYC on 880 kHz, just two kHz away from the weak station you are after and they are hitting your s-meter at 80 db over s-9. (BTW, that's a rock-crushingly strong signal next to a weakling of a signal.) With this being the case the 340 will, very annoyingly, splatter out the weak signal and will most likely "de-sense" for about 5 kHz on either side of 880 kHz. Not good. So, yes, Phil is right to criticize the 340 as having poor d r, but only under these circumstances. It is a limitation of the 16 bit DSP processor in the 340 being compromised in this aspect of performance. 2. Phil says the RX-340 has fair audio. Never having had any real-world, hands on experience with an 340 he relies on a discredited internet report by written by Jan Alverstad of Norway. This report was discredited by REAL RX-340 owners because Alverstad admits to not spending the proper amount of time needed to adjust and learn the radio!! So he makes a report slamming the audio in narrow SSB as poor when he didn't know that the AGC, the Variable IF Gain control and the PBT MUST be "set-up" BEFORE you can recover good audio. He would have had better results if he bothered to spend time reading the manual. No, the 340 is not hard at all to use. It doesn't take a lot of time to learn it. But you cannot just use it out of the box like you can with most other radios. The first-time 340 user HAS to read the manual first--it's friggin' common sense on a complicated, unconventional radio!! The audio, especially in SSB is not just good, it is outstanding. Refer to Larry Magne's review in PWBR in regards to what he calls "breathtakingly low distortion in SSB." 3. The SAM is fair, Phil says. In my opinion, he's right to a certain extent. But it isn't ALWAYS fair. Most of the time, about 80 percent of the time, the SAM works well, but not as well as the R8-B. The 340 synch quirks has been well-documented by PWBR, 340 "gurus" Albert Belle Isle and Carl Moreschi, and by myself on eHam. And as for the remaining 20 percent of the time? The SAM is indeed only fair. This is because when the desired signal goes into a rapid, deep fade, the synch "lets go" of the signal causing a disruptive clicking which grows tiresome and distracting. Using a long hang time setting helps iron this out considerably. There is another situation--part of the 20 percent--that causes the SAM to misbehave. When there is an extremely, key word: extremely, strong, nearby signal 5 kHz away from the one you are tuned to, the synch throws a fit. It starts to "pop" and "screech" loudly. Really no excuse for a great radio to have. TenTec failed on this. But overall the synch is just OK. This feature is the 340's major fault; it's ONLY major fault luckily. What redeems the 340 and prevents me from hating it for its fair synch is that the radio delivers outstanding manual ECSS, better than any other radio I have ever owned. When all of the parameters are properly adjusted--PBT, AGC speed, IF Gain setting, BW--the recovered audio is similar to the audio of the HF-225 with its synch on and in the HiFI mode. 4. The internal speaker is poor. No qualms here, he's right. But big ****ting deal. Who wants to use a small 3" top-firing speaker on a $4,000 radio? Put a REALLY good speaker on the 340--I use and LOVE the Sounds Sweet--and you'll be happy. 5. The display, Phil says, is fair. WHAT??? The display is a thing of beauty. The readablitlty is great; the S-Meter is very large and pleasing and esay to read and is professional and accurate. The contrast/brightness is fully adjustable. The read-out is HUGE. Why does he say that the display is fair? He never sat in fron of a 340 so where does he get his info from? Phil, not having any hands-on, real-world experience using an 340, takes ANECDOTAL information from PWBR and on-line reviews and publishes them out of context. This is the most egregious thing to do when claiming to be writing a review of receiver performance specs. It is a disservice to the hobby! Sorry, to tell you, but Phil is dead right ! |
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![]() mike maghakian wrote: In a recent receiver article, Phil of R75 fame made some negative comments on the TT RX-340. I asked my friend who is an RX-340 expert to comment. these are not my comments but the source is someone whose opinion is above question on this subject. Unless you have really used and understand the 340, you don't know what you are talking about. here is what he wrote me: ********************************* What is he talking about? He NEVER has tried an RX-340, or any of the other radios he compares in his charts OTHER THAN that OVERRATED R-75. He has his head up his ass on the following issues: 1. The RX-340, he says, has poor dynamic range. This declaration is deceptive! In truth, the dynamic range of the 340 is excellent in almost every aspect except in one type of monitoring condition in which it IS poor: in VERY CLOSE-IN conditions--less than 2KHz--under extreme duress. In those instances, yes, the d r is poor! He's right only in these instances. Fortunately for any RX-340 user, these conditions rarely are encountered because the filtering is superb, the front end is excellent, and blocking is good. Here's an example of where the RX-340's d r WILL behave poorly. Let's say you have an RX-340. You have it attached to a high-performance, outside antenna. You are tuned to 882 kHz trying to hear a very weak transatlantic/transpacific medium wave signal from half-way around the world at s3 or s4 on your meter. You are located in Eastchester NY, only 6 miles away from 50 KW WCBS NYC on 880 kHz, just two kHz away from the weak station you are after and they are hitting your s-meter at 80 db over s-9. (BTW, that's a rock-crushingly strong signal next to a weakling of a signal.) With this being the case the 340 will, very annoyingly, splatter out the weak signal and will most likely "de-sense" for about 5 kHz on either side of 880 kHz. Not good. So, yes, Phil is right to criticize the 340 as having poor d r, but only under these circumstances. It is a limitation of the 16 bit DSP processor in the 340 being compromised in this aspect of performance. 2. Phil says the RX-340 has fair audio. Never having had any real-world, hands on experience with an 340 he relies on a discredited internet report by written by Jan Alverstad of Norway. This report was discredited by REAL RX-340 owners because Alverstad admits to not spending the proper amount of time needed to adjust and learn the radio!! So he makes a report slamming the audio in narrow SSB as poor when he didn't know that the AGC, the Variable IF Gain control and the PBT MUST be "set-up" BEFORE you can recover good audio. He would have had better results if he bothered to spend time reading the manual. No, the 340 is not hard at all to use. It doesn't take a lot of time to learn it. But you cannot just use it out of the box like you can with most other radios. The first-time 340 user HAS to read the manual first--it's friggin' common sense on a complicated, unconventional radio!! The audio, especially in SSB is not just good, it is outstanding. Refer to Larry Magne's review in PWBR in regards to what he calls "breathtakingly low distortion in SSB." 3. The SAM is fair, Phil says. In my opinion, he's right to a certain extent. But it isn't ALWAYS fair. Most of the time, about 80 percent of the time, the SAM works well, but not as well as the R8-B. The 340 synch quirks has been well-documented by PWBR, 340 "gurus" Albert Belle Isle and Carl Moreschi, and by myself on eHam. And as for the remaining 20 percent of the time? The SAM is indeed only fair. This is because when the desired signal goes into a rapid, deep fade, the synch "lets go" of the signal causing a disruptive clicking which grows tiresome and distracting. Using a long hang time setting helps iron this out considerably. There is another situation--part of the 20 percent--that causes the SAM to misbehave. When there is an extremely, key word: extremely, strong, nearby signal 5 kHz away from the one you are tuned to, the synch throws a fit. It starts to "pop" and "screech" loudly. Really no excuse for a great radio to have. TenTec failed on this. But overall the synch is just OK. This feature is the 340's major fault; it's ONLY major fault luckily. What redeems the 340 and prevents me from hating it for its fair synch is that the radio delivers outstanding manual ECSS, better than any other radio I have ever owned. When all of the parameters are properly adjusted--PBT, AGC speed, IF Gain setting, BW--the recovered audio is similar to the audio of the HF-225 with its synch on and in the HiFI mode. 4. The internal speaker is poor. No qualms here, he's right. But big ****ting deal. Who wants to use a small 3" top-firing speaker on a $4,000 radio? Put a REALLY good speaker on the 340--I use and LOVE the Sounds Sweet--and you'll be happy. 5. The display, Phil says, is fair. WHAT??? The display is a thing of beauty. The readablitlty is great; the S-Meter is very large and pleasing and esay to read and is professional and accurate. The contrast/brightness is fully adjustable. The read-out is HUGE. Why does he say that the display is fair? He never sat in fron of a 340 so where does he get his info from? Phil, not having any hands-on, real-world experience using an 340, takes ANECDOTAL information from PWBR and on-line reviews and publishes them out of context. This is the most egregious thing to do when claiming to be writing a review of receiver performance specs. It is a disservice to the hobby! In two adjacent messages you have tried to convince us that the three opinions of Phil, Jan and Dave about this radio are wrong and your one opinion is somehow the right one. I'm not sure I understand why you are getting so wound up about what is little more than anecdotal evidence about one radio with a very small following. Unless of course you possibly have another reason. Maybe you are getting ready to sell one on Ebay and just saw the market value take hit. If so, maybe you should take a lesson from your friend Radiomart and ignore the comments of others and just get on with business. Or maybe you just can't stand the thought of three people having an opinion that differs from yours. My all-time favorite radio is the Kenwood R5000 and it had it's share of warts which were repeated by many reviewers. Whether we like how the radio feels, know how it works and know the bands are really the most important criteria for picking one receiver over another. Your opinion about that radio is just another one to be added to the list. But you do seem to be outnumbered. |
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![]() D Peter Maus wrote: wrote: I'm not sure I understand why you are getting so wound up about what is little more than anecdotal evidence about one radio with a very small following. Unless of course you possibly have another reason. Maybe you are getting ready to sell one on Ebay and just saw the market value take hit. Not every counter intuitive opinion indicates ulterior motive. Mike's character, from those of us who have had ongoing exchanges with him, suggest that his motives are anything but disingenuous. I'm trying to figure out his motives for launching two tirades against three other individuals because they expressed an opinion that differed from his. Those individuals give the impression of being at least as qualified as he is to express an opinion on a radio. I think that Mike should not get so wound up because not everyone else shares his view of that radio. From what I've read not many are really that impressed with it. But if it's a radio that he likes and enjoys tuning the bands with then more power to him. |
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Mike is pretty much on target on his comments. The other people
referenced are entirely off base. I've owned one for years, love the performance and I'm not selling it. I'd rather be a part of the correct minority than part of the incorrect majority. -- Telamon Ventura, California Not every counter intuitive opinion indicates ulterior motive. Mike's character, from those of us who have had ongoing exchanges with him, suggest that his motives are anything but disingenuous. ================================================== ========================= Peter and T-man are correct. MM is quite right on the RX340. i'm on my second one here. wish i still had the first one. oldest grandson talked me out of it. the 340 is not for everyone. it's like a Racal or a WJ. you don't just turn it on and listen. there's a lot more to it than that. read the manual and play. it does it all. first rate rig. as for Mike, i have bought, sold, and traded with him. he is one of the good guys in our hobby. Father Michael. |
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EVERYONE PLEASE NOTE:
I HAVE NEVER OWNED A 340 I DON'T THINK I NEED TO BUY A 340 I DON'T HAVE ONE TO SELL I DIDN'T WRITE THOSE COMMENTS, MY FRIEND DID !!!!! MY FRIEND HAS OWNED HIS 340 FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND HAS BEEN IN THE HOBBY OVER 25 YEARS AND HAS OWNED MY IMPRESSIVE RECEIVERS INCLUDING THE WJ COUSIN TO THE 340 MY FRIEND KNOWS THINGS ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE 340 THAT MOST PEOPLE WILL NEVER READ IN PRINT |
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