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[email protected] December 11th 06 02:12 AM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 
It's So Much Better Now.
(sci.energy.hydrogen news group)

www.cfiflistmanager.org/amnestyxxv.html

Illegal Aliens and most of them are Mexicans.We should send all of the
Illegal Aliens to Canada.Canada is a big Country and lots and lots of
room in Canada for Illegal Aliens.
cuhulin


ve3... December 11th 06 02:19 AM

Xmas Present for DXass: Some Overlooked People to Hate
 

ve3... wrote:
DxEcch, Alleged collich graduate, and holder of the prized "Ignorant
and proud of it award" should be along shortly to point ou that the correct French spelling is "Saint Pierre and Miquelon." Let's see which of his four stock insults he uses.



ve3... December 11th 06 02:33 AM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 

wrote:
It's So Much Better Now.
(sci.energy.hydrogen news group)

www.cfiflistmanager.org/amnestyxxv.html

Illegal Aliens and most of them are Mexicans.We should send all of the
Illegal Aliens to Canada.Canada is a big Country and lots and lots of
room in Canada for Illegal Aliens.
cuhulin

""""'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''
Thanks but no thanks. The Minister of Immigration anounced recently
that there would be no ammnesty for illegal immigrants in Canada Most
illegals will stay in the US where there are employers of illegals and
they can access welfare and other benefits.


m II December 11th 06 05:39 AM

Deleting your threats, are you?
 
m II wrote:

dxAcehole wrote:


A nice deleted message. He wasn't quite drunk enough to let it get read.

Nice going, cretin...




mike

dxAce December 11th 06 10:50 AM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 


David Frackelton Gleason, who made up the name 'Eduardo' c.2000, wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"Dorpmuller" wrote in message
. ..
HELL!!! Can't we talk radio instead of flaming??!

What new SW listener, or possible listener, think about the
hobby?

dxAss is not a hobbyist. He is simply a garden variety bigot and
racist
who
uses the fact he owns an R8 as an excuse to stalk canadians and
others
he
considers undesirable (99.99999999999999% of Humanity) so he can
make
some
of the dumbest flames known to Usenet.

**** you, cocksucker (and fake Hispanic) !

Ah, I so admire a person with a strong command of language.

Ah, and I admire fake hispanics that use their name to get positions at
Univision, when they are only ****ing high-school dropouts !

The Lehman Brothers ratings scorecard for 2006 shows Univsion the #1
group
in the US based on ratings performance. There must be a reason I get paid
other than my baptismal name... and ratings must be that reason.


Yeah, that baptismal name that you made up c.2000!


That would make me about 5, then.


Now that you mention it...



dxAce December 11th 06 11:09 AM

Xmas Present for DXass: Some Overlooked People to Hate
 


"ve3..." wrote:

DxAss, Alleged collich graduate, and holder of the prized "Ignorant
and proud of it award" has vented his spleen ( he laughed his ass off
long ago) against Canadians, Mexicans, and others who are different
than him (shudder). He has missed one group: the residents of St.
Pierre and Michelon, a French province in the Gulf of St. Lawrence. The
French are good at insults and would keep DxEcch out of our hair at
least until he has used up his four stock phrases (yawn) and returned
to the CB band. Get a CB radio, Boy.


You dumbass Canucks certainly yawn a lot. Get some sleep, Boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Neo-con American Right-wing Zionist/Christian Imperialist December 11th 06 04:13 PM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 

wrote in

The FCC will never allow IBOC at night - there are too many
interference problems



How can that be when 1/100th of the power transmitted is IBOC and it only
has a 60% coverage area?
Are you Al Gore's brother?

When analog disapears, and it will, your analog radio will be a museum peice
and your so called interference will be solved.



[email protected] December 11th 06 05:09 PM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 

Neo-con American Right-wing Zionist/Christian Imperialist wrote:
wrote in

The FCC will never allow IBOC at night - there are too many
interference problems



How can that be when 1/100th of the power transmitted is IBOC and it only
has a 60% coverage area?
Are you Al Gore's brother?

When analog disapears, and it will, your analog radio will be a museum peice
and your so called interference will be solved.


Keep dreaming - the Bridge Ratings have analog out to the middle of the
century. What's you gonna do - turn off analog, and with no one buying
HD radios, have no one listening ! lol


[email protected] December 11th 06 05:38 PM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 
Millions of stores sell analog radios.Some new analog radios are priced
at only a few dollars and some are priced way on up there.Those stores
are selling analog radios every day or else they wouldn't have them in
stock for people to buy.Just imagine if the whole Country switches to
iboc,there would be hell to pay! Some people would be ''getting their
Henikens at the discount stores''.
cuhulin


[email protected] December 11th 06 06:13 PM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 

wrote:
Millions of stores sell analog radios.Some new analog radios are priced
at only a few dollars and some are priced way on up there.Those stores
are selling analog radios every day or else they wouldn't have them in
stock for people to buy.Just imagine if the whole Country switches to
iboc,there would be hell to pay! Some people would be ''getting their
Henikens at the discount stores''.
cuhulin


Absolutely, cuhilin ! There are an estimated 800,000,000 analog radios
in the US, alone, and 70 million sold every year. BTW, I am with you on
analog tuning, now. I just got a few Sony ICF-S10MK2 radios, at $10
including shipping, and I am totally impressed ! I read that you were
not as impressed with the Sony, but for $10, just incredible !


Guerite December 11th 06 09:53 PM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 
Perhaps I may interest you with an analog scanner?
How about an analog Sony Trinitron TV?
I'll throw in a analog satellite TV receiver to go along with it? Or
perhaps you would prefer a morse code straight key?

wrote in message
ps.com...

Neo-con American Right-wing Zionist/Christian Imperialist wrote:
wrote in

The FCC will never allow IBOC at night - there are too many
interference problems



How can that be when 1/100th of the power transmitted is IBOC and it

only
has a 60% coverage area?
Are you Al Gore's brother?

When analog disapears, and it will, your analog radio will be a museum

peice
and your so called interference will be solved.


Keep dreaming - the Bridge Ratings have analog out to the middle of the
century. What's you gonna do - turn off analog, and with no one buying
HD radios, have no one listening ! lol




[email protected] December 11th 06 11:41 PM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 
My new Sony 27 inch CRT flat screen Trinitron Wega tv set has an analog
tuner and a digital tuner.It gets the best picture of any tv sets I have
ever owned before.I am thinking about buying a DVD player/recorder for
my tv set.
cuhulin


[email protected] December 12th 06 11:20 AM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve Stone" wrote in message
...
They don't allow HD on AM after sunset.. That should help


They will, eventually. The real issue is that nearly nobody listens to AM at
night, anyway.


IBOC will never be approved for nighttime AM. Many people listen to
nighttime AM, because talk shows are highly rated.


David Eduardo December 12th 06 02:43 PM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve Stone" wrote in message
...
They don't allow HD on AM after sunset.. That should help


They will, eventually. The real issue is that nearly nobody listens to AM
at
night, anyway.


IBOC will never be approved for nighttime AM. Many people listen to
nighttime AM, because talk shows are highly rated.


No, they are not "highly rated" if at night. AM audience at night is a lower
percentage of total radio audience than in the daytime. The total radio
rating at night (7 to Midnight) is around a 7 (7% of the universe) and AM is
only a couple of percent. Talk is not a majority format.



[email protected] December 12th 06 04:45 PM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 
Talk Radio is an extremly big format,both at day time and night time.
cuhulin


[email protected] December 13th 06 12:52 AM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 

David Eduardo wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve Stone" wrote in message
...
They don't allow HD on AM after sunset.. That should help

They will, eventually. The real issue is that nearly nobody listens to AM
at
night, anyway.


IBOC will never be approved for nighttime AM. Many people listen to
nighttime AM, because talk shows are highly rated.


No, they are not "highly rated" if at night. AM audience at night is a lower
percentage of total radio audience than in the daytime. The total radio
rating at night (7 to Midnight) is around a 7 (7% of the universe) and AM is
only a couple of percent. Talk is not a majority format.


Yes, I just read about it on the Internet - if nighttime AM was so
unsuccessful, then why are stations running broadcasting at night. You
are so full of ****, and IBOC will fail - go play with your red laced
panties.


David Eduardo December 13th 06 02:29 AM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

David Eduardo wrote:
"Steve Stone" wrote in message
...
They don't allow HD on AM after sunset.. That should help

They will, eventually. The real issue is that nearly nobody listens to
AM
at
night, anyway.

IBOC will never be approved for nighttime AM. Many people listen to
nighttime AM, because talk shows are highly rated.


No, they are not "highly rated" if at night. AM audience at night is a
lower
percentage of total radio audience than in the daytime. The total radio
rating at night (7 to Midnight) is around a 7 (7% of the universe) and AM
is
only a couple of percent. Talk is not a majority format.


Yes, I just read about it on the Internet - if nighttime AM was so
unsuccessful, then why are stations running broadcasting at night. You
are so full of ****, and IBOC will fail - go play with your red laced
panties.


I am NOT saying that there is no listening at night... just that it is
vastly below the levels of daytime radio in the 6 AM to 7 PM time period.
Night listening for AM and FM (all radio) is about 25% of the daytime level.
For AM, it is about 20% of the daytime level.

Still, there is listening, and it is worth staying on the air. More to the
point, there is nearly no listening between midnight and 5 AM, but (aside
from the original technical reason for operating 24/7), being on does
deliver a few listeners to the all important morning daypart where a huge
percentage of revenues are derived.

Most stations, unless they have play by play or something of its ilk, do not
get revenue from late evenings and overnights... but they use it to give
bonus spots to advertisers to lower the cost per point and to get on ad
buys.



David Eduardo December 13th 06 04:18 PM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 

wrote in message
ps.com...

David Eduardo wrote:


I am NOT saying that there is no listening at night... just that it is
vastly below the levels of daytime radio in the 6 AM to 7 PM time period.
Night listening for AM and FM (all radio) is about 25% of the daytime
level.
For AM, it is about 20% of the daytime level.

Still, there is listening, and it is worth staying on the air. More to
the
point, there is nearly no listening between midnight and 5 AM, but (aside
from the original technical reason for operating 24/7), being on does
deliver a few listeners to the all important morning daypart where a huge
percentage of revenues are derived.

Most stations, unless they have play by play or something of its ilk, do
not
get revenue from late evenings and overnights... but they use it to give
bonus spots to advertisers to lower the cost per point and to get on ad
buys.


I'm sure, you would like to have nighttime AM shut off, or IBOC
approved for nighttime AM, just to get rid of the MW DX'ers. Looks
like you changed your tune a bit.


AM will shut itself off in due time, as news/talk, the principal format,
migrates to FM as it has in many markets just this year.

The problems of AM are multiple:

1. Increasing interference form thing ranging from BPL to noisy LED
stoplight switches, reducing coverage.
2. Migration of main format to FM
3. Lack of use of AM by under-55's, where nearly 100% of radio ad sales are
directed.
4. Unawareness of AM by under-35's, who have no use for it and do not
listen.
5. Advertisers with "No AM" dictates
6. Lack of full coverage signals in most markets. Few markets have more than
one or two AMs that cover fully day and night.

HD is not going to help AM much, although it could create an opportunity for
niche music formats over time. Even that is doubtful. HD probably will be
approved for night use, as there is so little listening to AMs outside their
groundwave interference free contours and nothing would be lost.



Telamon December 14th 06 02:54 AM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

wrote in message
ps.com...

David Eduardo wrote:


I am NOT saying that there is no listening at night... just that
it is vastly below the levels of daytime radio in the 6 AM to 7 PM
time period. Night listening for AM and FM (all radio) is about
25% of the daytime level. For AM, it is about 20% of the daytime
level.

Still, there is listening, and it is worth staying on the air.
More to the point, there is nearly no listening between midnight
and 5 AM, but (aside from the original technical reason for
operating 24/7), being on does deliver a few listeners to the all
important morning daypart where a huge percentage of revenues are
derived.

Most stations, unless they have play by play or something of its
ilk, do not get revenue from late evenings and overnights... but
they use it to give bonus spots to advertisers to lower the cost
per point and to get on ad buys.


I'm sure, you would like to have nighttime AM shut off, or IBOC
approved for nighttime AM, just to get rid of the MW DX'ers. Looks
like you changed your tune a bit.


AM will shut itself off in due time, as news/talk, the principal
format, migrates to FM as it has in many markets just this year.

The problems of AM are multiple:

1. Increasing interference form thing ranging from BPL to noisy LED
stoplight switches, reducing coverage. 2. Migration of main format to
FM 3. Lack of use of AM by under-55's, where nearly 100% of radio ad
sales are directed. 4. Unawareness of AM by under-35's, who have no
use for it and do not listen. 5. Advertisers with "No AM" dictates 6.
Lack of full coverage signals in most markets. Few markets have more
than one or two AMs that cover fully day and night.

HD is not going to help AM much, although it could create an
opportunity for niche music formats over time. Even that is doubtful.
HD probably will be approved for night use, as there is so little
listening to AMs outside their groundwave interference free contours
and nothing would be lost.


I listen to out of the area AM stations all the time and I'm not Dx'ing
as a hobby but listening to the programs so a lot will be lost for me
and many other people that do the same.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

[email protected] December 14th 06 03:12 AM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 

David Eduardo wrote:
wrote in message
ps.com...

David Eduardo wrote:


I am NOT saying that there is no listening at night... just that it is
vastly below the levels of daytime radio in the 6 AM to 7 PM time period.
Night listening for AM and FM (all radio) is about 25% of the daytime
level.
For AM, it is about 20% of the daytime level.

Still, there is listening, and it is worth staying on the air. More to
the
point, there is nearly no listening between midnight and 5 AM, but (aside
from the original technical reason for operating 24/7), being on does
deliver a few listeners to the all important morning daypart where a huge
percentage of revenues are derived.

Most stations, unless they have play by play or something of its ilk, do
not
get revenue from late evenings and overnights... but they use it to give
bonus spots to advertisers to lower the cost per point and to get on ad
buys.


I'm sure, you would like to have nighttime AM shut off, or IBOC
approved for nighttime AM, just to get rid of the MW DX'ers. Looks
like you changed your tune a bit.


AM will shut itself off in due time, as news/talk, the principal format,
migrates to FM as it has in many markets just this year.

The problems of AM are multiple:

1. Increasing interference form thing ranging from BPL to noisy LED
stoplight switches, reducing coverage.
2. Migration of main format to FM
3. Lack of use of AM by under-55's, where nearly 100% of radio ad sales are
directed.
4. Unawareness of AM by under-35's, who have no use for it and do not
listen.
5. Advertisers with "No AM" dictates
6. Lack of full coverage signals in most markets. Few markets have more than
one or two AMs that cover fully day and night.

HD is not going to help AM much, although it could create an opportunity for
niche music formats over time. Even that is doubtful. HD probably will be
approved for night use, as there is so little listening to AMs outside their
groundwave interference free contours and nothing would be lost.


Due to skywave propagation, AM IBOC still interferes with protected
contours; there is no way, the FCC can approve IBOC for n ighttime AM.
HD RAdio/IBOC does not work well on AM, so keep dreaming - we will be
around for many years. DAB has failed in Canada and IBOC will fail in
the US.


Proud Neo-con American Right-wing Zionist/Christian Imperialist December 14th 06 04:21 PM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 

"Telamon" wrote

HD probably will be approved for night use, as there is so little
listening to AMs outside their groundwave interference free contours
and nothing would be lost.


I listen to out of the area AM stations all the time and I'm not Dx'ing
as a hobby but listening to the programs so a lot will be lost for me
and many other people that do the same.


If IBOC replaces the analog signal entirely and the IBOC power levels are
increased to anywhere near the stations full night time level, DXing IBOC on
the AM band will be very interesting and far more efficient IDing the
station for the DXer.



[email protected] December 14th 06 04:49 PM

HD radios being mass marketed, MW DXing down the tube?
 

Proud Neo-con American Right-wing Zionist/Christian Imperialist wrote:
"Telamon" wrote

HD probably will be approved for night use, as there is so little
listening to AMs outside their groundwave interference free contours
and nothing would be lost.


I listen to out of the area AM stations all the time and I'm not Dx'ing
as a hobby but listening to the programs so a lot will be lost for me
and many other people that do the same.


If IBOC replaces the analog signal entirely and the IBOC power levels are
increased to anywhere near the stations full night time level, DXing IBOC on
the AM band will be very interesting and far more efficient IDing the
station for the DXer.


With VERY few buying HD Radios, there is no way analog could be shut
off for MANY years; the Bridge Ratings have analog going out until the
middle of the century. The problem is, IBOC causes adjacent-channel
interference, even within protected contours, so IBOC DXing would be
difficult.


Proud Neo-con American Right-wing Zionist/Christian Imperialist December 14th 06 07:28 PM

MW DXing down the tube?
 
If it's not shut off it will be shut-out... by iPods, XM, Sirius, MP3's,
Radio over IP, the future - all digital technologies.

Hope you enjoy your analog TV while it lasts.

wrote in message
ups.com...

Proud Neo-con American Right-wing Zionist/Christian Imperialist wrote:
"Telamon" wrote

HD probably will be approved for night use, as there is so little
listening to AMs outside their groundwave interference free contours
and nothing would be lost.

I listen to out of the area AM stations all the time and I'm not

Dx'ing
as a hobby but listening to the programs so a lot will be lost for me
and many other people that do the same.


If IBOC replaces the analog signal entirely and the IBOC power levels

are
increased to anywhere near the stations full night time level, DXing

IBOC on
the AM band will be very interesting and far more efficient IDing the
station for the DXer.


With VERY few buying HD Radios, there is no way analog could be shut
off for MANY years; the Bridge Ratings have analog going out until the
middle of the century. The problem is, IBOC causes adjacent-channel
interference, even within protected contours, so IBOC DXing would be
difficult.




[email protected] December 14th 06 09:54 PM

MW DXing down the tube?
 

Proud Neo-con American Right-wing Zionist/Christian Imperialist wrote:
If it's not shut off it will be shut-out... by iPods, XM, Sirius, MP3's,
Radio over IP, the future - all digital technologies.

Hope you enjoy your analog TV while it lasts.

wrote in message
ups.com...

Proud Neo-con American Right-wing Zionist/Christian Imperialist wrote:
"Telamon" wrote

HD probably will be approved for night use, as there is so little
listening to AMs outside their groundwave interference free contours
and nothing would be lost.

I listen to out of the area AM stations all the time and I'm not

Dx'ing
as a hobby but listening to the programs so a lot will be lost for me
and many other people that do the same.


If IBOC replaces the analog signal entirely and the IBOC power levels

are
increased to anywhere near the stations full night time level, DXing

IBOC on
the AM band will be very interesting and far more efficient IDing the
station for the DXer.


With VERY few buying HD Radios, there is no way analog could be shut
off for MANY years; the Bridge Ratings have analog going out until the
middle of the century. The problem is, IBOC causes adjacent-channel
interference, even within protected contours, so IBOC DXing would be
difficult.


David Eduardo wants you to suck his dick !



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