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Neutrons fly through Earth (and our bodies too) without even slowing
down.Somewhere in America,underground,there is a big tank of pure water and scientist use that tank of water and equipment to catch the tracks of Neutrons.Or is it Nuetrinos? I once read about that in National Geographics magazine many years ago. cuhulin |
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What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
"John Smith" wrote in message
... Mike wrote: ... U R an idiot :( Yes, U R. Mike |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
"Telamon" wrote in message
... It's a particle that has no mass, yet it can impart momentum and it travels through space or air in a transverse wave motion but it is not a wave and it has no charge but it carries the force of electromagnetic fields as it travels through space. Well stated. I'm sticking with Maxwell for now. Good idea! Mike |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
"bpnjensen" wrote in message
ups.com... Radio signals are photons, little quanta of light energy, which have characteristics of both particles and waves. They are characteristic of particles, in part, in that they do not require a "medium" through which to travel and can physically impinge upon other particles. They are characteristic of waves in that they can be seen to resonate at specific frequencies and interfere with wave characteristics of other quanta. And vice-versa. Please excuse the imprecision in my language, it's been awhile. VERY well stated, and your language was fine. I doubt that "John Smith" will get it, however. Mike |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
Did anybody ever ask Albert Einstein about that?
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Universally Accepted - Was : What Albert Einstein said aboutRadio.
BruceMN44 wrote:
John Smith, You seem to be consumed by this ether subject yet you give no current references, only historical data from the early 1920's. You seem to enjoy the attention this thread has generated, yet offer nothing even remotely update on this subject. Fact of the mater you have taken ether beyond theoretical physics and have tried to apply it to applied physics...Antenna radiating waves through an ether!!!! I feel you are have made a leap that hasn't been proven scienticically by experiment yet! Only theory in some circles...which rise and fall with eb scientific conjecture. Bruce Bruce: You are correct, no recent data and we CANNOT see or prove the ether. But, at your disposal, you DO have logic ... Waves require a medium, if you propose radio does not require waves, and some other form of transfer is being had when radio energy leaves the xmitting antenna to arrive at the receiving antenna--you may, indeed, be correct. But, until you can prove that, the ether stays ... Regards, JS |
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bpnjensen wrote:
... Can I construct a "cloud chamber" to "see" what you claim, if not, how can I construct an experiment to prove what you say. If I cannot verify what you say, DO YOU REALLY WANT TO CLAIM THAT? Regards, JS |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
Mike wrote:
... Mike: I get a lot of things, you believe in particles emitting from our antennas, as opposed to waves--great, my antenna is a proton emitting device, yeah. LOL! Damn, I wish all the books would quit referring to "Radio Waves" and start talking about proton emitting xmitters! Damn dummies! LOL! Regards, JS |
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Mike wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message ... U R an idiot :( Yes, U R. Mike Mike: What do you do for a living, high school student? JS |
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"John Smith" wrote in message
... m II wrote: ... Yes, we already know your theory. Shooting protons and genetic damage--and radio waves are but a myth. For the tenth time, not protons. Photons. Quanta. Please demonstrate that you are at least *capable* of learning something. Mike |
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"John Smith" wrote in message
... BruceMN44 wrote: I don't think John Smith read the entire section on Ether...you need to update your Physics book to the late 20th Century. Ether is considered a non-issue in modern physics theories. ... I know of no physicist who would claim radio waves traverse the universe (space) with no media to distribute their energy. Then you know of no Physicist. Period. Like I say, prepare a paper, I am sure the scientific community is ready to hear how radio waves are but a myth ... The papers have already been prepared, peer reviewed and accepted. About 60 years ago. Mike |
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Mike wrote:
... Mike Mike: Take this argument up with you high school physics instructor, he will, no doubt, enlighten you ... Regards, JS |
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Mike wrote:
... Mike Mike: I know startrek enterprise gave rise to the photon torpedos, but trust me, they have NOTHING to do with our antennas! JS |
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Mike wrote:
... Mike OK. I will try one final time. You ever seen a magnet? You know how you can lay a paper over the magnet and sprinkle iron filings on the paper and see the "magnetic lines of force?" Well son, that is the ether which has been warped by the magentic field you are seeing. Those are NOT sub-atomic particles streaming from one end of the magnet to the other ... grow up ... Did you fall asleep in your physics course? JS |
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Photons of light have powered spacecraft in space before.Sunlight,it is.
Warp Factor 12!,Mr.Spock. cuhulin |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
Good grief! The 'flat world theory' may be back after all!
-- Brian Denley http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html "John Smith" wrote in message ... Ron Baker, Pluralitas! wrote: ... For those reading who have a greater than room temperature IQ: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether Buddy, if you are claiming radio waves transverse the universe without a medium, your IQ is zero. Wikipedia is wrong. Probably why some say not to believe everything you read on the internet. Of course, your radio probably receives protons rather than waves, you must be a true genius to have figured out how to do that! ROFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Regards, JS |
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They ALL claim exaclty that!
-- Brian Denley http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html "John Smith" wrote in message ... BruceMN44 wrote: I don't think John Smith read the entire section on Ether...you need to update your Physics book to the late 20th Century. Ether is considered a non-issue in modern physics theories. ... I know of no physicist who would claim radio waves traverse the universe (space) with no media to distribute their energy. Like I say, prepare a paper, I am sure the scientific community is ready to hear how radio waves are but a myth ... JS |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
You obviously haven't. Radio waves (same as light) have a dual nature and
act as particles and waves. This can be demonstrated. -- Brian Denley http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html "John Smith" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: ... Do you also believe that the earth is flat? That there is a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow? The tooth fairy? Santa Claus? Mike Have you EVER taken a qualified physics course by a qualified instructor? Regards, JS |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
Photons...not protons. Self educated huh?
-- Brian Denley http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html "John Smith" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: ... Mike: I get a lot of things, you believe in particles emitting from our antennas, as opposed to waves--great, my antenna is a proton emitting device, yeah. LOL! Damn, I wish all the books would quit referring to "Radio Waves" and start talking about proton emitting xmitters! Damn dummies! LOL! Regards, JS |
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Brian Denley wrote:
They ALL claim exaclty that! Uh huh ... JS |
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Brian Denley wrote:
Photons...not protons. Self educated huh? The modern concept of the photon was developed gradually (1905–17) by Albert Einstein[2][3][4][5] to explain experimental observations that did not fit the classical wave model of light. In particular, the photon model accounted for the frequency dependence of light's that is taken from he http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon And, while that is indeed a neat "concept" and depends on einsteins "gravitational ether", it is not the protons which are real and NOT a concept ... Protons are real ... JS |
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Brian Denley wrote:
You obviously haven't. Radio waves (same as light) have a dual nature and act as particles and waves. This can be demonstrated. As I pointed out in "Newtons Balls of Force", the energy imparted to the device behaves as a "wave" ... light does indeed have properties both of a wave and particles ... Radio frequencies only have properties of a wave ... JS |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
Brian Denley wrote:
Good grief! The 'flat world theory' may be back after all! You are funny, dense, but funny ... JS |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
Brian Denley wrote:
You obviously haven't. Radio waves (same as light) have a dual nature and act as particles and waves. This can be demonstrated. I am interested in your "Particle Theory" regarding radio waves, can you expand upon that ... ROFLOL! JS |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
Photons,protons,electrons,smotrons, www.devilfinder.com Stripes and
Superconductivity - Two Faces of the Same Coin That ScienceDaily link up there at the devilfinder.com (Send me to Hell! devilfinder) search I did,it says something about electrons bind as pairs. cuhulin |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
Ahhhh,excuse me, (Blues Brothers movie,Ray Charles fixin to demonstrate
that piano) but I don't think light waves are the same things as radio thingys. cuhulin |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
This thread still going? wow Maybe we can chat about if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there....does it make a sound? I think we can line up two camps on this. John Smith will definitely be on the side there is NO sound if no one is there, only ether. Proving his 1920's theories. John Smith wrote: Mike wrote: "John Smith" wrote in message ... U R an idiot :( Yes, U R. Mike Mike: What do you do for a living, high school student? JS |
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It does't matter if anybody is in a forest or not if a tree falls
down.Of course the tree makes a sound,if it falls down.Sound waves traveling through the ether.Tell ya what,go hide a microphone in a forest and wait long enough and you will hear a tree fall down.You just might hear Big Foot stompin around in that forest too. cuhulin |
Universally Accepted - Was : What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
"John Smith" wrote in message
... Mike wrote: ... Mike Mike: Take this argument up with you high school physics instructor, he will, no doubt, enlighten you ... Even high school physics is clearly beyond you. Mike |
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"John Smith" wrote in message
... Mike wrote: ... Mike OK. I will try one final time. You ever seen a magnet? You know how you can lay a paper over the magnet and sprinkle iron filings on the paper and see the "magnetic lines of force?" Well son, that is the ether which has been warped by the magentic field you are seeing. Geez this guy is clueless. Mike |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
"John Smith" wrote in message
... bpnjensen wrote: ... Can I construct a "cloud chamber" to "see" what you claim, if not, how can I construct an experiment to prove what you say. If I cannot verify what you say, DO YOU REALLY WANT TO CLAIM THAT? Yet no one has found the "ether" either, and many have done experiments looking for it. If no one can verify what you say, DO YOU REALLY WANT TO CLAIM THAT? Mike |
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David wrote:
So light can't get through a vacuum? I think the idea of the ether is that it does not violate the concept of a vacuum, the latter of which is merely devoid of mass. Obviously, a vacuum can be, and usually is, full of energy in the form of radiation. The ether, to an electromagnetic "wave," is supposedly the electromagnetic equivalent of an ocean of water through which mechanical waves travel. It does not add anything that would negate the no-mass-dependent vacuum of space. While I am not in the "ether" camp, in defense of the concept, there *is* a hypothetical construct that may be real, which I alluded to elsewhere, known to me as the "quantum background," which pervades all of the universe, quite possibly *outside* of the universe as well, which could constitute an ether-like fabric. I don't know much about it, other than that it is a constantly bubbling stew of virtual particles that appear and disappear very quickly, and that it may be responsible for the outpouring of energy at the moment of the Big Bang. It may also be the "carrier" of quantum waves - but that is getting well beyond my own knowledge base. For what it is worth, one very important type of wave that has yet to be solidly documented is the gravity wave, the "long wave" of the cosmic spectrum. It is not exactly an EM wave, but also not exactly a mechanical wave, yet it has connections to both worlds. It is a major key to the Holy Grail of cosmology, the "Theory of Everything" that unifies all the basic forces of the universe. Its attendant quantum particle is the graviton, and a weird thing it must be if it connects us to our planet, among other things. Long story short, it is unclear what kind of medium this wave would traverse, if in fact it traverses a medium at all. Enough about that... Bruce Jensen |
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Either,isn't that what the docs used to put their paitents to sleep with
before they started to work on them? www.devilfinder.com World War Two FIRST CALL PostCard Sodier Jackson Mississippi cuhulin |
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On 20 Dec 2006 09:08:45 -0800, "bpnjensen"
wrote: David wrote: So light can't get through a vacuum? I think the idea of the ether is that it does not violate the concept of a vacuum, the latter of which is merely devoid of mass. Obviously, a vacuum can be, and usually is, full of energy in the form of radiation. The ether, to an electromagnetic "wave," is supposedly the electromagnetic equivalent of an ocean of water through which mechanical waves travel. It does not add anything that would negate the no-mass-dependent vacuum of space. While I am not in the "ether" camp, in defense of the concept, there *is* a hypothetical construct that may be real, which I alluded to elsewhere, known to me as the "quantum background," which pervades all of the universe, quite possibly *outside* of the universe as well, which could constitute an ether-like fabric. I don't know much about it, other than that it is a constantly bubbling stew of virtual particles that appear and disappear very quickly, and that it may be responsible for the outpouring of energy at the moment of the Big Bang. It may also be the "carrier" of quantum waves - but that is getting well beyond my own knowledge base. For what it is worth, one very important type of wave that has yet to be solidly documented is the gravity wave, the "long wave" of the cosmic spectrum. It is not exactly an EM wave, but also not exactly a mechanical wave, yet it has connections to both worlds. It is a major key to the Holy Grail of cosmology, the "Theory of Everything" that unifies all the basic forces of the universe. Its attendant quantum particle is the graviton, and a weird thing it must be if it connects us to our planet, among other things. Long story short, it is unclear what kind of medium this wave would traverse, if in fact it traverses a medium at all. Enough about that... Bruce Jensen Energy sets up a field around an antenna. It alternates at some rate[s] per second but there are no waves that I know of. |
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No there is no difference; they are both electromagnetic radiation but with
differing wavelengths. They both move at the speed of light and they obey the same principles (Maxwell's equations). Radio waves are also 'photons' and have both wave and particle behavior. BTW, as someone else posted Michaelson and Morley (in one of the most amazing leaps of knowlege ever taken by man) dispelled the ether myth at the end of the 19th century when they measued the speed of light exactly the same whether the observer was moving towar the source or away from it. This measurements would have been different if there was an 'ether' for the 'waves to move through'. -- Brian Denley http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html "John Smith" wrote in message ... Brian Denley wrote: You obviously haven't. Radio waves (same as light) have a dual nature and act as particles and waves. This can be demonstrated. As I pointed out in "Newtons Balls of Force", the energy imparted to the device behaves as a "wave" ... light does indeed have properties both of a wave and particles ... Radio frequencies only have properties of a wave ... JS |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
When Astronauts return to Earth from orbiting around Earth,their
wris****ches are a fraction of a second off.I forget if it is a fraction of a second faster or slower. cuhulin |
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