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What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
''You see,wire telegraph is a kind of a very,very long cat.You pull his
tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles.Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way; you send signals here,they receive them there.The only difference is there is no cat'' cuhulin |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
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What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
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What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
John Smith wrote:
Well, although in 1925 Einstein denied existence of the ether, in 1929 he reneged and accepted the existence of the ether. Without the ether no electromagnetic wave could traverse what we know as space. Ether? This is getting reminiscent of the Scopes Monkey Trial. Let me guess...you think Darwin was working for the devil.... http://snipurl.com/15589 mike |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
a very long cat for cookoolin:
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What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
m II wrote:
... Ether? This is getting reminiscent of the Scopes Monkey Trial. Let me guess...you think Darwin was working for the devil.... http://snipurl.com/15589 mike I suppose you are going to claim our antennas can shoot out protons across the expanse of space? That radio waves are nothing but a myth? Educate yourself, waves need a medium to propagate in; of course, shooting photons are like bullets and don't! Surely you are joking. LOL! Regards, JS |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
The whole Universe is a Radio of sorts.Mankind didn't invent Radio.
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What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
"John Smith" wrote in message ... wrote: ... understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way; you send signals here,they receive them there.The only difference is there is no cat'' cuhulin Well, although in 1925 Einstein denied existence of the ether, in 1929 he reneged and accepted the existence of the ether. Without the ether no electromagnetic wave could traverse what we know as space. Cretin. For those reading who have a greater than room temperature IQ: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
Ron Baker, Pluralitas! wrote:
... For those reading who have a greater than room temperature IQ: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether Buddy, if you are claiming radio waves transverse the universe without a medium, your IQ is zero. Wikipedia is wrong. Probably why some say not to believe everything you read on the internet. Of course, your radio probably receives protons rather than waves, you must be a true genius to have figured out how to do that! ROFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Regards, JS |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
Somewhere on the internet there is a website about what some scientist
say the Universe sounds like.I have heard it before,it is sort of like a low hum sound/noise. cuhulin |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
John Smith wrote:
... It amazes me that so many are so ignorant to the matter, and that sheer logic alone can prove ethers existence. Strike a tuning fork and you hear the sound of the fork vibrating in your ears. This is because earths atmosphere serves as a medium for the propagation of the sound waves. In space, you hear no sound ... Toss a stone in a pond and you see waves, that is because water serves as a medium to propagate the waves. Now, you and I both know radio signals DO traverse space. And, if there is no medium which propagates the "radio waves", then we need to rewrite some books here. Especially covering how to build antennas capable of receiving "radio protons." In 1915 Einstein began denying the ether, in a lecture in 1929 he reneged and stated the ether exists. Most catch the 1915+ lectures and miss the 1929 lecture. Indeed, material on that lecture has been ignored. The ether exists, only idiots would deny that ... Regards, JS |
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On Dec 17, 9:24 pm, wrote: - Somewhere on the internet there is a website about - what some scientist say the Universe sounds like. - I have heard it before,it is sort of like a low hum sound/noise. - cuhulin So the Universe 'sounds' like my Head ! Hey the the Universe is really this Really Really Big Empty Space {Nothingness} that has a whole lot of really really small things {Stuff} moving around in it. So the Universe 'is' like my Head ! ~ RHF |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
Mike wrote:
... Do you also believe that the earth is flat? That there is a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow? The tooth fairy? Santa Claus? Mike Have you EVER taken a qualified physics course by a qualified instructor? Regards, JS |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
I definetly believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Clause.
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What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
"John Smith" wrote in message
... Have you EVER taken a qualified physics course by a qualified instructor? Yes. There is no "ether". Radio "waves" are not really waves. Your opinions on this are about 70 years behind the times. Mike |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
Mike wrote:
... Yes. There is no "ether". Radio "waves" are not really waves. Your opinions on this are about 70 years behind the times. Mike ahhh. I thought so. You are the one whose antenna is firing those protons! OK. Then show us your design on the "Proton Grabbing Antenna." :) JS |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
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... I definetly believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Clause. That's because they have more supporting evidence than the "ether"! Mike |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
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What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
Mike wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message ... Have you EVER taken a qualified physics course by a qualified instructor? Yes. There is no "ether". Radio "waves" are not really waves. Your opinions on this are about 70 years behind the times. Mike OK. I will take the time to explain this to you. If your antenna DOES NOT emmanate waves into the ether, then it must shoot sub-atomic particles, and if so, that is HIGHLY DANGEROUS. As these sub-atomic particles traveling though your body would cause cancer, DNA damage, etc. So, stay away from your antenna idiot! Laughing Out Loud! JS |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
"John Smith" wrote in message
... OK. I will take the time to explain this to you. If your antenna DOES NOT emmanate waves into the ether, then it must shoot sub-atomic particles, and if so, that is HIGHLY DANGEROUS. As these sub-atomic particles traveling though your body would cause cancer, DNA damage, etc. That's EXACTLY what it does, and yes it is dangerous. Congratulations, you're not a dumb as you appear. Mike |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
"John Smith" wrote in message
... Mike wrote: ... Yes. There is no "ether". Radio "waves" are not really waves. Your opinions on this are about 70 years behind the times. Mike ahhh. I thought so. You are the one whose antenna is firing those protons! Not protons, photons. You are totally clueless, aren't you? Mike |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
Mike wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: ... Yes. There is no "ether". Radio "waves" are not really waves. Your opinions on this are about 70 years behind the times. Mike ahhh. I thought so. You are the one whose antenna is firing those protons! Not protons, photons. You are totally clueless, aren't you? Mike No. protons - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton Well, unless now you are firing up the Startrek Enterprises "photon torpedoes!" JS |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
Mike wrote:
... Mike You are an idiot :( JS |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
In article , "Mike"
wrote: wrote in message ... I definetly believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Clause. That's because they have more supporting evidence than the "ether"! The "ether" does have its proponents. In any event there just may may be a measurable asymmetry to the universe. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
"Telamon" wrote in message
... In article , "Mike" wrote: wrote in message ... I definetly believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Clause. That's because they have more supporting evidence than the "ether"! The "ether" does have its proponents. So does the Flat Earth Society. Mike |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
"John Smith" wrote in message
... Mike wrote: "John Smith" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: ... Yes. There is no "ether". Radio "waves" are not really waves. Your opinions on this are about 70 years behind the times. Mike ahhh. I thought so. You are the one whose antenna is firing those protons! Not protons, photons. You are totally clueless, aren't you? Mike No. protons - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton No, photons. Mike |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
"John Smith" wrote in message
... Mike wrote: ... Mike You are an idiot :( Yes, you are. Mike |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
Mike wrote:
... Mike Mike: At least give everyone the opportunity to grieve the death of radio waves and get used to your revelation about proton shooting antennas (oh yeah, I forgot, your antenna shoots photon torpedoes!) Krist. It will take awhile to redefine and rewrite all of radio theory according to your new theory, and you know the hams are going to be ****ed when we tell 'em that radio waves are only a myth ... LOL!!! JS |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
Mike wrote:
... U R an idiot :( JS |
Ether is an outdated anaesthetic
Telamon wrote:
The "ether" does have its proponents. In any event there just may may be a measurable asymmetry to the universe. ================================================== ==== Albert Michelson, physicist - Astounding ethereal result (1852 to 1931) Polish American physicist born in Strelno (now Strzelno, Poland). In 1887 Albert Michelson, funded by Alexander Graham Bell, inventor of the telephone, developed the interferometer. Together with the American chemist Edward Morley he used the interferometer to measure the speed of light with great precision. At that time, most scientists believed that light travelled as waves through the ether, a substance that filled the universe. They also believed that the Earth travelled through the ether. The Michelson-Morley experiment measured the Earth's velocity through the ether, and found it to be zero. This proved that the ether does not exist! (By now, the ether was very different from those of Descartes and Newton). Eight years later, Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity explained this surprising result, giving weight to his revolutionary theory. Michelson's result on the speed of light was key to Einstein's theories of Relativity. Michelson's results showed that there wasn't an ether - as thought by Descartes and others. Michelson developed ideas on the motion of the Earth from those of Foucault With Maxwell's equations, Michelson's work led to the idea of electromagnetic waves in free space. http://www.physics.org/evolution/phy...tion_text5.asp ================================================== ============= mike |
Universally Accepted - Was : What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
I don't think John Smith read the entire section on Ether...you need to update your Physics book to the late 20th Century. Ether is considered a non-issue in modern physics theories. "Today, the majority of physicists hold that there is no need to imagine that a medium for light propagation exists. They believe that neither Einstein's general theory of relativity nor quantum mechanics have need for it and that there is no evidence for it. As such, a classical aether is an unnecessary addition to physics that violates the principle of Occam's razor. Moreover, it is hard to develop an aether theory that is consistent with all experiments of modern physics. Any new theory of aether must be consistent with all of the experiments testing phenomena of special relativity, general relativity, relativistic quantum mechanics, and so on. As outlined earlier, these conditions are often contradictory, making such a task inherently difficult. Nevertheless the intuitive appeal of a causal background for "relativistic" effects cannot be denied. Some physicists hold that there remain a number of problems in modern physics that are simplified by an aether concept, so that Occam's razor doesn't apply." Bruce..Radiation Physicist |
Ether is an outdated anaesthetic
m II wrote:
... Yes, we already know your theory. Shooting protons and genetic damage--and radio waves are but a myth. Get your paper in order, I am sure the scientific community is just waiting to hear from you ... JS |
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BruceMN44 wrote:
I don't think John Smith read the entire section on Ether...you need to update your Physics book to the late 20th Century. Ether is considered a non-issue in modern physics theories. ... I know of no physicist who would claim radio waves traverse the universe (space) with no media to distribute their energy. Like I say, prepare a paper, I am sure the scientific community is ready to hear how radio waves are but a myth ... JS |
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Universally Accepted - Was : What Albert Einstein said aboutRadio.
BruceMN44 wrote:
... have need for it and that there is no evidence for it. As such, a classical aether is an unnecessary addition to physics that violates the principle of Occam's razor. Bruce..Radiation Physicist I trust "Newton's Balls of Force" can still be found in high school physics labs. I trust most have seen how energy can travel through the balls as a "wave" and only the end balls will swing free in an effort to "dispel" the energy which is imparted to the device. In much the same way, tesla described the "travel" of "radio waves" in the ether. It is true, einsteins "gravitational ether" does seem to break occam's razor, true physicists ponder these things ... however, present theory depends on a medium for waves to travel in, otherwise "radio waves" are a myth, if that is what you claim--so be it ... JS |
Universally Accepted - Was : What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
John Smith wrote: BruceMN44 wrote: I don't think John Smith read the entire section on Ether...you need to update your Physics book to the late 20th Century. Ether is considered a non-issue in modern physics theories. ... I know of no physicist who would claim radio waves traverse the universe (space) with no media to distribute their energy. Like I say, prepare a paper, I am sure the scientific community is ready to hear how radio waves are but a myth ... JS John Smith, You seem to be consumed by this ether subject yet you give no current references, only historical data from the early 1920's. You seem to enjoy the attention this thread has generated, yet offer nothing even remotely update on this subject. Fact of the mater you have taken ether beyond theoretical physics and have tried to apply it to applied physics...Antenna radiating waves through an ether!!!! I feel you are have made a leap that hasn't been proven scienticically by experiment yet! Only theory in some circles...which rise and fall with eb scientific conjecture. Bruce |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
In article , "Mike"
wrote: "John Smith" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: "John Smith" wrote in message ... Mike wrote: ... Yes. There is no "ether". Radio "waves" are not really waves. Your opinions on this are about 70 years behind the times. Mike ahhh. I thought so. You are the one whose antenna is firing those protons! Not protons, photons. You are totally clueless, aren't you? Mike No. protons - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton No, photons. It's a particle that has no mass, yet it can impart momentum and it travels through space or air in a transverse wave motion but it is not a wave and it has no charge but it carries the force of electromagnetic fields as it travels through space. I'm sticking with Maxwell for now. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Universally Accepted - Was : What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
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"BruceMN44" wrote: I don't think John Smith read the entire section on Ether...you need to update your Physics book to the late 20th Century. Ether is considered a non-issue in modern physics theories. "Today, the majority of physicists hold that there is no need to imagine that a medium for light propagation exists. They believe that neither Einstein's general theory of relativity nor quantum mechanics have need for it and that there is no evidence for it. As such, a classical aether is an unnecessary addition to physics that violates the principle of Occam's razor. Moreover, it is hard to develop an aether theory that is consistent with all experiments of modern physics. Any new theory of aether must be consistent with all of the experiments testing phenomena of special relativity, general relativity, relativistic quantum mechanics, and so on. As outlined earlier, these conditions are often contradictory, making such a task inherently difficult. Nevertheless the intuitive appeal of a causal background for "relativistic" effects cannot be denied. Some physicists hold that there remain a number of problems in modern physics that are simplified by an aether concept, so that Occam's razor doesn't apply." Bruce..Radiation Physicist This post only proves that not everyone is a Bruce. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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brucie, Brucie. BRUCIE !
Aether You Do -or- Ether You Don't [.] yes it is that simple - relatively speaking ~ RHF |
What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
John Smith wrote:
OK. I will take the time to explain this to you. If your antenna DOES NOT emmanate waves into the ether, then it must shoot sub-atomic particles, and if so, that is HIGHLY DANGEROUS. As these sub-atomic particles traveling though your body would cause cancer, DNA damage, etc. So, stay away from your antenna idiot! Laughing Out Loud! JS Radio signals are photons, little quanta of light energy, which have characteristics of both particles and waves. They are characteristic of particles, in part, in that they do not require a "medium" through which to travel and can physically impinge upon other particles. They are characteristic of waves in that they can be seen to resonate at specific frequencies and interfere with wave characteristics of other quanta. And vice-versa. Please excuse the imprecision in my language, it's been awhile. When you deal with mechanical waves, you must provide a medium for them to propagate. Quanta are different, and do not always conform in obvious analogous ways to mechanical waves. There is a hypothetical all-pervasive quantum background that seems to be the source of the characteristics of quanta, but this does not equate to an ether. I am not an expert in quantum theory or relativity by any means, I just have some educational background in quantum/radiation physics, and I love astronomy and cosmology...and one tends to absorb information about beloved subjects. Bruce Jensen |
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