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RHF December 21st 06 11:07 AM

What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
 
BpnJ,

Keep talking those 'little words'
connected to "Big Ideas" ~ RHF
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David December 22nd 06 02:37 AM

What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
 
On 21 Dec 2006 09:34:22 -0800, "bpnjensen"
wrote:

David wrote:

Energy sets up a field around an antenna.


Yes, an EM field.

It alternates at some rate[s] per second but there are no waves that I know of.


The fact that the field "alternates" or "vibrates" at some frequency,
in either kHz or MHz or etc, and the fact that this vibration can be
detected at distance (in another EM field through an LC circuit), is
the evidence that the signal has properties of a wave. It also, like
any other quantum entity, has properties of particles (photons). All
of the concepts that we normally associate with physical and mechanical
waves - travel (propagation), velocity, resonance, wavelength,
frequency and interference patterns, are exhibited by radio signals.
That is why we use the term "wave" to partially describe the
phenomenon.

Another way to look at it is that the energy of the signal waxes and
wanes, positive to negative, at the rate of the frequency of the
signal. This is also a classic wave signature, and is readly seen in
ocean waves or even ripples in snowdrifts and sand dunes.

Bruce Jensen


Those waves manifest on a boundary between 2 different media as would
be expected by changing density below.

Would waves exist without the passage of time? Would the field still
be there?

Telamon December 22nd 06 03:10 AM

What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
 
In article . com,
"bpnjensen" wrote:

David wrote:

Energy sets up a field around an antenna.


Yes, an EM field.

It alternates at some rate[s] per second but there are no waves that I know
of.


The fact that the field "alternates" or "vibrates" at some frequency,
in either kHz or MHz or etc, and the fact that this vibration can be
detected at distance (in another EM field through an LC circuit), is
the evidence that the signal has properties of a wave. It also, like
any other quantum entity, has properties of particles (photons). All
of the concepts that we normally associate with physical and mechanical
waves - travel (propagation), velocity, resonance, wavelength,
frequency and interference patterns, are exhibited by radio signals.
That is why we use the term "wave" to partially describe the
phenomenon.

Another way to look at it is that the energy of the signal waxes and
wanes, positive to negative, at the rate of the frequency of the
signal. This is also a classic wave signature, and is readly seen in
ocean waves or even ripples in snowdrifts and sand dunes.


If it is within 1 wavelength of the antenna it is a local induction
field. If the antenna is efficient and actually radiates then beyond 1
wavelength it is an EM wave carried by photons.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

[email protected] December 22nd 06 03:18 AM

What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
 
So called time is a unit of measure,a yardstick,mankind came up with so
as to put twenty four hours on Military clocks/wris****ches.Really
though,there is no such thingy as time.whos fooling who? Not fooling me.
cuhulin


Brian Denley December 22nd 06 05:07 AM

What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
 
But it was their work that provided the stimulus for Lorentz and Einstein.

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

"bpnjensen" wrote in message
ups.com...
Brian Denley wrote:
No there is no difference; they are both electromagnetic radiation but
with
differing wavelengths. They both move at the speed of light and they
obey
the same principles (Maxwell's equations). Radio waves are also
'photons'
and have both wave and particle behavior.

BTW, as someone else posted Michaelson and Morley (in one of the most
amazing leaps of knowlege ever taken by man) dispelled the ether myth at
the
end of the 19th century when they measued the speed of light exactly the
same whether the observer was moving towar the source or away from it.
This
measurements would have been different if there was an 'ether' for the
'waves to move through'.


Glad to see you mention this, and I agree completely. This is perhaps
the most significant argument against the ether, although, as I
mentioned earlier, quanta don't behave quite the same as normal
Newtonian physical elements, and that through which they travel might
also be independent (and move independently) of the space-time to which
we are confined. M&M did not know about the true nature quantum fabric
at that time - and we still don't have the all the pieces of *that*
puzzle.

Bruce Jensen




John Smith December 23rd 06 12:15 AM

What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
 
Brian Denley wrote:
But it was their work that provided the stimulus for Lorentz and Einstein.


In the past, germs were not accepted, the world was believed to be flat,
radio was thought to be impossible, the laser (buck rogers ray gun) was
thought a toy, etc., etc., etc.

The fact that equations need to involve time (time does not really
exist) or the "imaginary" number 377 ohms to describe the "impedance" of
the ether proves there is a yet undiscovered "matter."

For now, ether serves as well as any other term ...

Get a clue.

JS

John Smith December 23rd 06 12:17 AM

What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
 
David wrote:
...
So light can't get through a vacuum?


Light traverses the ether well, as we all well know, it does so as a wave.

JS

[email protected] December 23rd 06 01:25 AM

What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
 
Buck Rogers Ray Gun? Uh Huh,,,,, www.devilfinder.com Ionatron
Stennis Space Center Mississippi

LIGHTNING!
cuhulin


John Barnard December 23rd 06 02:11 AM

What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
 
BruceMN44 wrote:
This thread still going? wow Maybe we can chat about if a tree falls
in the forest and no one is there....does it make a sound? I think we
can line up two camps on this. John Smith will definitely be on the
side there is NO sound if no one is there, only ether. Proving his
1920's theories.


John Smith wrote:
Mike wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message
...
U R an idiot :(
Yes, U R.

Mike

Mike:

What do you do for a living, high school student?

JS




If JS spent less time sniffing the "ether", he would eventually come to
his senses!

John Barnard


RHF December 23rd 06 02:56 AM

What Albert Einstein said about Radio.
 


On Dec 22, 5:17 am, "Mike" wrote:
wrote in ...

So called time is a unit of measure,a yardstick,mankind came up with so
as to put twenty four hours on Military clocks/wris****ches.Really
though,there is no such thingy as time.whos fooling who? Not fooling me.Time is real, and is considered the 4th dimension. Length, width, height,

duration.

If you don't exist in time then you don't exist.

Mike


Mike -IF- You are Eternal - Time Does Not Exist [.]

and that is something to think about ~ RHF


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