Telamon wrote:



BTW, BBC is not a "low bitrate" stream. 20K for voice is plenty.
It sounds better than *any* shortwave radio, and is available 24/7,
static, hiss and drift free.

I have listen to it and it sounds like crap. I do not think I am alone
in thinking that listening to low bit rate audio is tiring on the ears.
You must like all your pictures in low resolution too.

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Telamon
Ventura, California
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I agree that 8k internet audio is poor quality but I find the 20k bbc
feed much easier on the ears than any shortwave program I hear. Also,
technology moves on; and there are lots of 100 k or better internet
sites now that are fm quality and the audio quality of all sites will
soon surpass that of any shortwave broadcst. For a look at the future,
visit the Internet 2 site.

that's a dismal but unfortunately probably realistic portrayal.

On Dec 30, 9:38 am, "ve3..." wrote:
Mike wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
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Yes, and once again, it's not shortwave.

It's entirely possible that the OP didn't realize he could listen to BBC on
the net. Shortwave is no longer the only (or best) way to get it.

Sheesh!

Back atcha.

Mike'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''*'''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''
The problem with shortwave listening is that there is not much left to
listen to. Most of the big international broadcasters have shut down
their tranmitters and moved program delivery to the internet or
satellite. Radio Finland is this week's loss. There are a few still on
the air, like Radio Canada International, producing good programs, but
they are on tight budgets and restricted schedules.
There are over a thousand people registered to this website, and
many of them are new and want to actually listen to something on their
new portable sw radios. They want to hear different points of view from
foreign locales but all they get on their radios are preachers asking
for support (money). By the time they can spell Walterboro, they are
discouraged at their inability to hear on shortwave the programs that
have moved to the internet.
One type of shortwave hobbyist is not paticularly interested in
programs but specializes in ferreting out weak and distant stations.
The weak broadcast from Ulan Bator or the 50-watt rebel transmitter in
deepest Africa are his targets. This specialty requires excellent
receivers and big antennas. The fact that the programs are not in
English is irrelevant, since the competition of the country count is
the thing.
Unfortunately, we are at the bottom of the sunspot 11-year cycle so
short-wave reception is at its worst and it will be a few years before
conditions improve. By then, at the current rate of loss of stations on
shortwave, there will be nothing left except preachers and weak
remotes that will need top-end equipment that most people will not want
to buy.
I think we are in a transitional phase. The rapid growth of
internet-based radio plus the advances in cell technology will produce
a portable cell phone radio that will combine many functions including
streamed programs from foreign countries. In fact, you can do this now
if you have a newer cell phone and are near a cell. You can listen to
the bbc right now as if you had a portable radio...actually you do.
When this happy day arrives, rec.radio.shortwave will revert to dx
chasing only and the 10 denizens will no longer be bothered by people
who want to listen to programs.

In article .com,
"tom k in L.A." wrote:


On Dec 30, 9:38 am, "ve3..." wrote:
Mike wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
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Yes, and once again, it's not shortwave.

It's entirely possible that the OP didn't realize he could listen to BBC
on
the net. Shortwave is no longer the only (or best) way to get it.

Sheesh!

Back atcha.

Mike'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''
'''''*'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
The problem with shortwave listening is that there is not much left to
listen to.

Snip the usual crapola

that's a dismal but unfortunately probably realistic portrayal.


The guy a Trolling idiot. Ignore him. There are to many stations to keep
track of. Some stations come and go on the air.

You want to hear more buy the Eton E1.

You need portability buy the Sony 7600GR.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

wrote:
I can get bbc America on my DirecTV.I never tune in to that biassed
Stupid bbc tv channel though.Besides,that bbc woman on there is UGLY!
cuhulin
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bbc America is only a tiny slice of what is available on the bbc. They
have seven streams of live programs plus hundreds of archived programs.
They cover such areas as comedy, plays, classical music, literature,
pop music, documentaries, history, archeology and so forth. This range
of progams woule be impossible to provide on a one-channel shortwave
station

Telamon wrote:
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You need portability buy the Sony 7600GR.


How about this one, just to toss in your luggage and have stolen at the
airport?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-ICF-SW07-Sh...QQcmdZViewItem

One long link, you make have to paste it together ...

Regards,
JS

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Yes, and once again, it's not shortwave.

It's entirely possible that the OP didn't realize he could listen to BBC
on
the net.

Well you've told him, and now you both can run along!

And you have told us that "it's not shortwave", so you can run along!

Mike

"Telamon" wrote in message
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I have listen to it and it sounds like crap. I do not think I am alone
in thinking that listening to low bit rate audio is tiring on the ears.

It sounds better than any shortwave radio. 20K speech is not low bitrate
audio. Fading, static and interference on shortwave is tiring on the ears.

You must like all your pictures in low resolution too.

Only if it's a picture of you.

Mike

In article , "Mike"
wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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I have listen to it and it sounds like crap. I do not think I am alone
in thinking that listening to low bit rate audio is tiring on the ears.

It sounds better than any shortwave radio. 20K speech is not low bitrate
audio. Fading, static and interference on shortwave is tiring on the ears.

Sounds like crap compared to what I get with shortwave radio. You must
not know how to get decent reception or maybe you own a crappie radio
like the R75.

You must like all your pictures in low resolution too.

Only if it's a picture of you.

I have a picture of you in mind and it's not pretty.

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Telamon
Ventura, California