"ve3..." wrote in message
oups.com...
Are you saying that shortwave radio is an obsolete method of program
delivery?

Of course it is. But most people in this group will never admit that.

Get an internet radio, boy.

Got several - my computers!

Mike

Mike wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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"ve3..." wrote:

Telamon wrote:


Why listen to low bit rate audio on the Internet anyway.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
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Why? Let me count the ways:
1. The bbc streams at about 20k and sounds very good
2. It is free from fading, static, interference, and hiss.
3. The bbc web site offers a wide variety of programs.
4. It is free.
5. It is available 24/7

But it sure as hell ain't shortwave!

No, it's better than shortwave!

Pay attention! It's not shortwave.

Look, I'm a long time shortwave listener.

So am I, and I know full well that listening via the internet is not shortwave

Been listening since the 60s,
when America was referred too as "running dog capitalists" by Radio Moscow -
and Radio Moscow didn't have commercials!

Those were the days!

I have dozens of radios here.
Grundigs, Tecsuns, Drake, Scott and Zenith antique tube radios, Panasonics,
Hallicrafters, Sears, etc.

That's nice.

The OP was interested in BBC.

Yes, and by golly he actually mentioned using a shortwave radio in his original post.

I took this to mean he was *only* interested
in BBC. If that is indeed the case, he does not need a $500 radio. His
computer will work fine.

Read the above...

BTW, BBC is not a "low bitrate" stream. 20K for voice is plenty. It
sounds better than *any* shortwave radio, and is available 24/7, static,
hiss and drift free.

Yes, and once again, it's not shortwave.

Sheesh!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"ve3..." wrote:

dxAce wrote:
"ve3..." wrote:

Telamon wrote:


Why listen to low bit rate audio on the Internet anyway.
--
Telamon
Ventura, California
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Why? Let me count the ways:
1. The bbc streams at about 20k and sounds very good
2. It is free from fading, static, interference, and hiss.
3. The bbc web site offers a wide variety of programs.
4. It is free.
5. It is available 24/7

But it sure as hell ain't shortwave!

You may run along now.

dxAce
Michigan

_________________________________________________

Are you saying that shortwave radio is an obsolete method of program
delivery?
Get an internet radio, boy.

Stuff that internet radio up your dumb Canucky ass, boy!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Mike wrote:

"ve3..." wrote in message
oups.com...
Are you saying that shortwave radio is an obsolete method of program
delivery?

Of course it is. But most people in this group will never admit that.

Even if it was, this is not rec.internet.listening!

Please, try to pay attention.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
Yes, and once again, it's not shortwave.

It's entirely possible that the OP didn't realize he could listen to BBC on
the net. Shortwave is no longer the only (or best) way to get it.

Sheesh!

Back atcha.

Mike

Mike wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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Yes, and once again, it's not shortwave.

It's entirely possible that the OP didn't realize he could listen to BBC on
the net.

Well you've told him, and now you both can run along!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

In article , "Mike"
wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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"ve3..." wrote:

Telamon wrote:


Why listen to low bit rate audio on the Internet anyway. --
Telamon Ventura, California
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'''''''' '''''''''''''''''''' Why? Let me count the ways: 1. The
bbc streams at about 20k and sounds very good 2. It is free from
fading, static, interference, and hiss. 3. The bbc web site offers
a wide variety of programs. 4. It is free. 5. It is available 24/7

But it sure as hell ain't shortwave!

No, it's better than shortwave!

Everybody with a computer and Internet connection knows about radio
stations that stream. This technology just like radio has its drawbacks
ranging from sound quality to availability so no way in hell are you
going to convince a NORMAL THINKING INDIVIDUAL that Internet streaming
technology is BETTER.

Look, I'm a long time shortwave listener. Been listening since the
60s, when America was referred too as "running dog capitalists" by
Radio Moscow - and Radio Moscow didn't have commercials! I have
dozens of radios here. Grundigs, Tecsuns, Drake, Scott and Zenith
antique tube radios, Panasonics, Hallicrafters, Sears, etc.

The OP was interested in BBC. I took this to mean he was *only*
interested in BBC. If that is indeed the case, he does not need a
$500 radio. His computer will work fine.

BTW, BBC is not a "low bitrate" stream. 20K for voice is plenty.
It sounds better than *any* shortwave radio, and is available 24/7,
static, hiss and drift free.

I have listen to it and it sounds like crap. I do not think I am alone
in thinking that listening to low bit rate audio is tiring on the ears.
You must like all your pictures in low resolution too.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Mike wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...
Yes, and once again, it's not shortwave.

It's entirely possible that the OP didn't realize he could listen to BBC on
the net. Shortwave is no longer the only (or best) way to get it.

Sheesh!

Back atcha.

Mike
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The problem with shortwave listening is that there is not much left to
listen to. Most of the big international broadcasters have shut down
their tranmitters and moved program delivery to the internet or
satellite. Radio Finland is this week's loss. There are a few still on
the air, like Radio Canada International, producing good programs, but
they are on tight budgets and restricted schedules.
There are over a thousand people registered to this website, and
many of them are new and want to actually listen to something on their
new portable sw radios. They want to hear different points of view from
foreign locales but all they get on their radios are preachers asking
for support (money). By the time they can spell Walterboro, they are
discouraged at their inability to hear on shortwave the programs that
have moved to the internet.
One type of shortwave hobbyist is not paticularly interested in
programs but specializes in ferreting out weak and distant stations.
The weak broadcast from Ulan Bator or the 50-watt rebel transmitter in
deepest Africa are his targets. This specialty requires excellent
receivers and big antennas. The fact that the programs are not in
English is irrelevant, since the competition of the country count is
the thing.
Unfortunately, we are at the bottom of the sunspot 11-year cycle so
short-wave reception is at its worst and it will be a few years before
conditions improve. By then, at the current rate of loss of stations on
shortwave, there will be nothing left except preachers and weak
remotes that will need top-end equipment that most people will not want
to buy.
I think we are in a transitional phase. The rapid growth of
internet-based radio plus the advances in cell technology will produce
a portable cell phone radio that will combine many functions including
streamed programs from foreign countries. In fact, you can do this now
if you have a newer cell phone and are near a cell. You can listen to
the bbc right now as if you had a portable radio...actually you do.
When this happy day arrives, rec.radio.shortwave will revert to dx
chasing only and the 10 denizens will no longer be bothered by people
who want to listen to programs.

I can get bbc America on my DirecTV.I never tune in to that biassed
Stupid bbc tv channel though.Besides,that bbc woman on there is UGLY!
cuhulin

SHOVE your bbc!
cuhulin