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I almost never pay any attention to any of the AM/FM radios in the
regular local yokel stores around here because I know most of them are
cheap plastic crap.I suppose the Hooper Sound store on Terry Road at
Mart 51 can order any kind of real good radio I want,no doubt there are
at least one or two other stores around here that sell better quality
radios too.So far though,IBOC is not taking over the radio listerners
market in this here Jackson,Mississippi area.
cuhulin,in Jackson,Mee see see pee pee eye

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I am in the sixty five years young crowd.Do I count? True,I am not rich
like you are and I don't have too much disposable money.
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David Eduardo wrote:

It's a statement of policy. Look it up-. And while you are at it, look at a
1985 listing of Canadian AMs and one today. Way over 100, including things
like Winnipeg's first station, CBW-580, and Calgary's 50 kw CKXL are gone
and the frequency retired.



The frequency is alive and well. It is 1140 on the dial. The format
changed to religious broadcasting a few years back along with a name
change to CHRB

CFCN has had a name change to CKMX

The above are both Calgary area stations.

The CBC outlet, CBR has recently began simultaneous FM broadcasts.


http://rockies.foundlocally.com/Comm...diaAMRadio.htm
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m II wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

It's a statement of policy. Look it up-. And while you are at it, look at a
1985 listing of Canadian AMs and one today. Way over 100, including things
like Winnipeg's first station, CBW-580, and Calgary's 50 kw CKXL are gone
and the frequency retired.


The frequency is alive and well. It is 1140 on the dial. The format
changed to religious broadcasting a few years back along with a name
change to CHRB

CFCN has had a name change to CKMX

The above are both Calgary area stations.

The CBC outlet, CBR has recently began simultaneous FM broadcasts.

http://rockies.foundlocally.com/Comm...diaAMRadio.htm


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In article ,
Telamon wrote:

Why is that? The 55+ age group has more disposable income.


But they're not gullible enough to sign up for aphrodisiac vitamins
from a company you can't ever get off your credit card, real estate
investment seminars, or "investment grade" silver coins.

One of the reasons AM radio is dying is that they're poisoned by
toxic advertisers that are insults to the listener's intelligence.
The stations would be better off without their money.

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Mark Zenier wrote:
In article ,
Telamon wrote:
Why is that? The 55+ age group has more disposable income.


But they're not gullible enough to sign up for aphrodisiac vitamins
from a company you can't ever get off your credit card, real estate
investment seminars, or "investment grade" silver coins.

One of the reasons AM radio is dying is that they're poisoned by
toxic advertisers that are insults to the listener's intelligence.
The stations would be better off without their money.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)



With declining revenue share, and heavy operating budgets, the
stations can't afford to forego that money. Even with the impact it may
carry.

When I was at CBS, and Metabolife came to town, the sales duck and
the upper echelons of manglement married the station to this product. To
the tune of millions in revenue. Metabolife literally allowed us to hit
our corporate numbers. Without it, we would have been in hot water with
BlackRock.

And the station hawked Metabolife at every appearance, station event,
and promotion. They literally shared our booth at a local music
festival. Even while the news was filled with anti-ephedra/ephedrine
stories, some taking direct shots at Metabolife.

When Metabolife took a direct hit in the legislature, so did the
station.

Didn't matter. The money was all that mattered. Because in the US,
Radio is ALWAYS about the money. Has been since the 20's.



There are some interesting figures here, regarding alternative media
outlets, and how they may impact Radio's Ratings and Revenue.

http://www.bridgeratings.com/press_0...0RadioUpd-.htm
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Metaborlife? I never heard of it before.They come and go,don't they?
Remember Geritol for iron starved blood? (Lawrence Welk always looked
like he was ''starved for something'' to me,he was really a mean old
*******) I never fell for any of those snake oils.I bought a big plastic
jar of salmonella (Jif Peanut Butter,I love peanut butter and Nabisco
Saltine Crackers and Cheese and Nabisco Saltine (heavy on the Salt)
Crackers) at the Wal Mart food store a couple of days ago.I guess I am
almost impervious to anything. www.jif.com
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David Frackelton Gleason, starring as 'Eduardo' in Pompous Poseur wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo', tried yet again to
come up
with some credible BS when he wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Gleason, wrote:

Welfare?

I see. Your income comes from where?

Several sources, none of them being welfare, prancer boy!

All of them sharing the commonality that they come from the government,
as
opposed to money you earned, right?


Well, I did earn my benefits from the VA, and I did earn my Social
Security
benefits, and I did earn my pension from my previous place of employment,
and I
did earn the money that is in the bank paying me interest!


An entitlement is just that... an entitlement, not a job. Just as I thought.


Hey boy, I just got another "entitlement", my tax refund from the State of
Michigan... $1200.

LMFAO at the prancing fool.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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On Feb 21, 2:13?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

...





In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


"Telamon" wrote in message
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Major runors that Clear is going to take the loser in the Spring or
Summer
book out of KYSR, KHHT or KBIG and make it a simulcast of KFI.
Eventually,
640 could be changed to another formrat, or kept for the senior
citizens...


So if this does not happen will you admit you are wrong on the whole
IBOC issue and formats?


I said that if one o fthe three underperforming FMs in LA does not
recover
int he next two books, it will be considered to reinforce KFI. Clear
has
already made some major FM news talk moves, ranging from Tallahassee
to
New
Orleans to Pittsburgh.


OK fine but I consider your comment "Eventually, 640 could be changed
to
another formrat (sic, format), or kept for the senior citizens..."
derogatory.


KFI has over 50% of its listeners in 55+, a demo no significant LA
advertiser buys. And the station is ageing every year, and will start to
decline in billings.


Why is that? The 55+ age group has more disposable income.


In the larger markets...

(Sidebar... 30% of all radio ad revenue is generated in just the first 10
markets)

... most advertising is what is called "transactional" and placed by
agencies on behalf of agency clients. Transactional means that the buy is
based on the cost of delivery of some measure of listenership, like the
amount you pay to reach every 1000 listeners.

Ad agencies are given orders by the clients as to who they consider the best
potential consumers. The agency creates advertising directed at that group,
and then places ad buys based on cost /delivery to reach them.

In the simplest terms, advertisers don't go after anyone over 55. This has
nothing to do with the wealth or lack of same of that market segment. It has
to do with how many ads it takes to change a buying behaviour. Older
consumers take more convincing... thus, more ads... to make a sale. In many
cases, an ROI (Return on Investment) analysis shows advertising to older
consumers causes a loss with every sale.

Lots of people drink beer... but most beer ads are directed at 21 to 39 year
old males, because that is where the money is. The ROI on advertising to
other groups is low or not profitable.

As an example, in LA last year... and LA is the biggest revenue radio ad
market... there were no buys by agencies against 55+.

So, that is the problem with AM. 80% of its listening is by listeners over
45, and much of that is by people over 55... an audience nobody really wants
in the larger, rated markets. In smaller markets, or suburban situations,
local direct advertisers will be more flexible... but for the bulk of US
radio advertising, 55+ is not desirable.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


"In-Stat: Digital Radio Set to Take Off"

"In 2006, 73 percent of respondents to an In-Stat U.S. consumer survey
were aware of HD Radio on some level."

http://beradio.com/eyeoniboc/instat-digital-radio-set/

"Sirius, XM, and HD: Consumer interest reality check" (Alexaholic)

"While interest in satellite radio is diminishing, interest in HD
shows no signs of a pulse."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/02/sirius_....html#comments

This just confirms, the lack of interest for HD Radio, on Google
Trends:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd... =all&date=all

For now, HD Radio/IBOC is dead.

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