RadioBanter

RadioBanter (https://www.radiobanter.com/)
-   Shortwave (https://www.radiobanter.com/shortwave/)
-   -   HD AM in NJ/NY ? (https://www.radiobanter.com/shortwave/115209-hd-am-nj-ny.html)

[email protected] February 17th 07 10:53 PM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
On Feb 17, 6:50�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...







David Eduardo wrote:


"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:


Nobody "back home" would remember as I have nearly no family there and
left
a decade before the time adult friendships are developed. Who in the
would
_would_ know?


Obviously several people and/or institutions!


Not likely. You are fabricating to support your biases and bigotry. It
would
be even more fun if I could find a Canadian relative of significance, but
I
can not seem to find any for you to bash.


Of course, on my first daughter's birth certificate, dated
1965, the "father's name" has "Eduardo" as my second given name.


I somehow doubt that, but hey, it's YOUR fantasy, not mine.


Go for it. Write to the Registro demográfico in Quito, Ecuador and look
for
Maria Luisa Gleason Parra. Of course, you will have to write in Spanish,
oh
monolingual one.


Hey, did she get kicked out of Ecuador at gunpoint along with you?


No, she is an Ecuadorian citizen, and currently owns several radio stations
there- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


So, how does Univision feel about you spending all of you valuable
time blogging - you must be totally worthless. Maybe, they are afraid
of firing you, because you are a fake Hispanic !


[email protected] February 17th 07 10:56 PM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
On Feb 15, 11:37�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...
On Feb 15, 2:13?pm, "Guerite?" wrote:

Little do you realize, that news/talk/sports on the clear-channels
command a higher advertising fee, than FM - *too bad, asshole, AM is
alive and well. It is IBOC, that is failing, not analog.


No, that is not true. Advertising is priced based on delivery of listeners,
no matter what the format. It is always a function of a certain dollar
amount for each thousand listeners, and pricing is by delivery.

A news talk station with good ratings gets the same rate as an FM with the
same ratings in the age group an advertiser is buying.

The issue with news talkers is they often bill among the higer range in a
market because they have higher numbers of minutes of spots. While most
larger market FMs sell no more than 10 to 12 minutes of commercials, news
talk often goes to 18 minutes and has more inventory.

The problem with AM news talk stations is that most have around half the
listeners over age 55, where there are nearly no agency ad buys.

In the US, there are 4665 AMs as of last week. Of the ones in rated markets,
only a small percentage, maybe 20% at best, are viable (decent signal and
full market day and night coverage) and these tend to do well. The rest are
either religious, brokered or ethnic.

For example, there is no vable AM in Washington, DC. Phoenix has only 2. So
what you can see is that while a market may have well over a dozen viable
FMs, the number of AMs is tiny.



What a pathetic, fat, worthless old man - you have no social skills,
because your 24/7 interaction with people is spent blogging !


Telamon February 18th 07 02:31 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


wrote in message
ps.com...
On Feb 17, 12:03?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...
On Feb 16, 5:39?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

wrote in message

oups.com...

Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better
than analog!
It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the
day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS
AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night.

But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not
matter,
business wise.
If that is true, then why is news/talk/.sport so popular at night.

It isn't.


Another IBOC shill, full-of-**** !


OK, potty mouth: show me how there is so much listening to AM news talk at
night that we could apply the term "popular" to it.


Snip

It is popular with me... so there.

You asked and you shall receive.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

dxAce February 18th 07 02:36 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 


Telamon wrote:

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:


wrote in message
ps.com...
On Feb 17, 12:03?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...
On Feb 16, 5:39?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

wrote in message

oups.com...

Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better
than analog!
It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the
day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS
AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night.

But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not
matter,
business wise.
If that is true, then why is news/talk/.sport so popular at night.

It isn't.

Another IBOC shill, full-of-**** !


OK, potty mouth: show me how there is so much listening to AM news talk at
night that we could apply the term "popular" to it.


Snip

It is popular with me... so there.

You asked and you shall receive.


Yeah, same here. Popular.

I lay in bed and tune around to find AM news talk from whererever I can find it.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David Eduardo February 18th 07 03:25 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 17, 3:13?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Nobody but a few DXers really cares abut adjacent channel reception in
the
shadow of a powerful local signal.


Nobody?


Yeah, statistically, nobody.


AM news/talk/sports on the "clears" is alive-and-well - IBOC Shill !


There are only 24 or 25 of those. There are 4800 AM stations. How about
them?

And I know of one 1A clear that is considering an FM simulcast, and there is
already one doing a simulcast.

In Philadelphia and New Orleans, FM news talkers are beating KDKA and WWL
respectively, showing that n/t, on FM will do much better than on AM.



David Eduardo February 18th 07 03:28 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 

wrote in message
ps.com...

So, how does Univision feel about you spending all of you valuable
time blogging - you must be totally worthless. Maybe, they are afraid
of firing you, because you are a fake Hispanic !


What I do on my free time is of no concern. And I don't even have a blog.

Perhaps the fact that Univsion Radio was the only radio company given an "A"
by Lehman Bros. based on fall ratings performance may have something to do
with how I get along with them!



David Eduardo February 18th 07 03:29 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

What a pathetic, fat, worthless old man - you have no social skills,
because your 24/7 interaction with people is spent blogging !


I gyuess this means that you can't refute my listing of AM n/t stations
already moved to FM.

Usenet is not a bloodspot.



David Eduardo February 18th 07 03:30 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I lay in bed and tune around to find AM news talk from whererever I can
find it.


So that makes two listeners. Hardly "popular."



[email protected] February 18th 07 03:44 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
Talk Radio is very popular with me.Fortunately though,when George
''scared of Ouija Boards'' Noory and Art ''married a young girl'' Bell
come on the air at midnight,that is at the time O' night I cut the light
and dream of going on Cattledrives from Texas to Montana and catching a
choo choo Train on the way back.
cuhulin


[email protected] February 18th 07 07:21 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
On Feb 18, 1:25?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...

On Feb 17, 3:13?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


Nobody but a few DXers really cares abut adjacent channel reception in
the
shadow of a powerful local signal.


Nobody?


Yeah, statistically, nobody.


AM news/talk/sports on the "clears" is alive-and-well - IBOC Shill !


There are only 24 or 25 of those. There are 4800 AM stations. How about
them?

And I know of one 1A clear that is considering an FM simulcast, and there is
already one doing a simulcast.

In Philadelphia and New Orleans, FM news talkers are beating KDKA and WWL
respectively, showing that n/t, on FM will do much better than on AM.


AM news/talk/sports on the "clears" is alive-and-well.


[email protected] February 18th 07 07:24 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
On Feb 18, 1:29?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...

What a pathetic, fat, worthless old man - you have no social skills,
because your 24/7 interaction with people is spent blogging !


I gyuess this means that you can't refute my listing of AM n/t stations
already moved to FM.

Usenet is not a bloodspot.


The move has stalled with the FCC. AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-
well. There still are thousands of AM stations and I can always DX to
Canada - no nighttime IBOC in Canada. DAB has failed in Canada, as HD
Radio/IBOC is failing here.


dxAce February 18th 07 11:07 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I lay in bed and tune around to find AM news talk from whererever I can
find it.


So that makes two listeners. Hardly "popular."


Well one thing is certain, boy... you're a pathological liar.

LMFAO

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce February 18th 07 01:12 PM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:


Nobody "back home" would remember as I have nearly no family there and
left
a decade before the time adult friendships are developed. Who in the
would
_would_ know?


Obviously several people and/or institutions!


Not likely. You are fabricating to support your biases and bigotry. It would
be even more fun if I could find a Canadian relative of significance, but I
can not seem to find any for you to bash.

Of course, on my first daughter's birth certificate, dated
1965, the "father's name" has "Eduardo" as my second given name.


I somehow doubt that, but hey, it's YOUR fantasy, not mine.


Go for it. Write to the Registro demográfico in Quito, Ecuador and look for
Maria Luisa Gleason Parra. Of course, you will have to write in Spanish, oh
monolingual one.


And you're just stupid enough to think that a Spanish language translator could
not be found to do the letter, oh dumbass one?

LMFAO at the pathological liar.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David Eduardo February 18th 07 02:32 PM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 

wrote in message
ps.com...
On Feb 18, 1:25?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...

On Feb 17, 3:13?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


Nobody but a few DXers really cares abut adjacent channel reception
in
the
shadow of a powerful local signal.


Nobody?


Yeah, statistically, nobody.


AM news/talk/sports on the "clears" is alive-and-well - IBOC Shill !


There are only 24 or 25 of those. There are 4800 AM stations. How about
them?

And I know of one 1A clear that is considering an FM simulcast, and there
is
already one doing a simulcast.

In Philadelphia and New Orleans, FM news talkers are beating KDKA and WWL
respectively, showing that n/t, on FM will do much better than on AM.


AM news/talk/sports on the "clears" is alive-and-well.


Of the 24 or 25 former 1-A clears, these are n/t/s: 640,
700,720,750,760,770, 810, 820, 830, 840, 870, 890, 1020, 1030, 1040, 1100,
1120, 1160 (FM simulcast), 1180, 1200, 1210.

So you are making your conclusion based on 21 out of 4,800 stations.



m II February 18th 07 05:49 PM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
wrote:

I just now received an email from someone in Canada.He or she refered to
dxAce and RHF as clowns.Well,he or she in Canada,dxAce and RHF are NOT
clowns! Now,go paddle your Canadian Canoe!
cuhulin


Please post the complete email, with the headers intact. No sane person
would send a deviant pedophile, such as you, a personal letter.





mike


Telamon February 18th 07 06:33 PM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


I lay in bed and tune around to find AM news talk from whererever I can
find it.


So that makes two listeners. Hardly "popular."


Well heck, the two of us are 95% of your audience.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon February 18th 07 07:02 PM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 18, 1:29?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...

What a pathetic, fat, worthless old man - you have no social
skills, because your 24/7 interaction with people is spent
blogging !

I gyuess this means that you can't refute my listing of AM n/t
stations already moved to FM.

Usenet is not a blogdspot.


The move has stalled with the FCC.


The FCC does not regulate or have anything to do with format changes.

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and- well.


And moving form AM to FM at an increasing pace, based on the early
successes.


Where is this happening? You expect that to happen in the LA area were
it will affect my listening?

I listen occasionally to the PBS stations but most of my FM listening
time is classical music. The other FM music formats only generate a
psychodynamic response of changing the station as soon as humanly
possible.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

[email protected] February 18th 07 07:40 PM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
On Feb 18, 1:25?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...

On Feb 17, 3:13?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


Nobody but a few DXers really cares abut adjacent channel reception in
the
shadow of a powerful local signal.


Nobody?


Yeah, statistically, nobody.


AM news/talk/sports on the "clears" is alive-and-well - IBOC Shill !


There are only 24 or 25 of those. There are 4800 AM stations. How about
them?

And I know of one 1A clear that is considering an FM simulcast, and there is
already one doing a simulcast.

In Philadelphia and New Orleans, FM news talkers are beating KDKA and WWL
respectively, showing that n/t, on FM will do much better than on AM.


Many of these, will be around for a long, long time:

http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/50kwam.html

Some Goddamn IBOC shill, can't take these away !


[email protected] February 18th 07 07:41 PM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
On Feb 18, 1:29?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...

What a pathetic, fat, worthless old man - you have no social skills,
because your 24/7 interaction with people is spent blogging !


I gyuess this means that you can't refute my listing of AM n/t stations
already moved to FM.

Usenet is not a bloodspot.


I can give you all of these - too bad:

http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/50kwam.html


[email protected] February 18th 07 07:42 PM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
On Feb 18, 12:32?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

ps.com...





On Feb 18, 1:25?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message


groups.com...


On Feb 17, 3:13?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


Nobody but a few DXers really cares abut adjacent channel reception
in
the
shadow of a powerful local signal.


Nobody?


Yeah, statistically, nobody.


AM news/talk/sports on the "clears" is alive-and-well - IBOC Shill !


There are only 24 or 25 of those. There are 4800 AM stations. How about
them?


And I know of one 1A clear that is considering an FM simulcast, and there
is
already one doing a simulcast.


In Philadelphia and New Orleans, FM news talkers are beating KDKA and WWL
respectively, showing that n/t, on FM will do much better than on AM.


AM news/talk/sports on the "clears" is alive-and-well.


Of the 24 or 25 former 1-A clears, these are n/t/s: 640,
700,720,750,760,770, 810, 820, 830, 840, 870, 890, 1020, 1030, 1040, 1100,
1120, 1160 (FM simulcast), 1180, 1200, 1210.

So you are making your conclusion based on 21 out of 4,800 stations.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/50kwam.html


[email protected] February 18th 07 07:43 PM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
On Feb 18, 12:34?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...

On Feb 18, 1:29?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message


groups.com...


What a pathetic, fat, worthless old man - you have no social skills,
because your 24/7 interaction with people is spent blogging !


I gyuess this means that you can't refute my listing of AM n/t stations
already moved to FM.


Usenet is not a blogdspot.


The move has stalled with the FCC.


The FCC does not regulate or have anything to do with format changes.

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-
well.


And moving form AM to FM at an increasing pace, based on the early
successes.

There still are thousands of AM stations and I can always DX to
Canada - no nighttime IBOC in Canada.


There is none in the US, yet, either.

DAB has failed in Canada, as HD
Radio/IBOC is failing here.


Canada has proposed adopting HD,, and Mexico has operating stations already.


DAB has failed in Canada and IBOC will also - few digital radios have
been sold in Canada, as here. Canada has already stated that they will
not put up with nighttime interference. IBOC will fail in Canada and
the US.


[email protected] February 18th 07 07:46 PM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
On Feb 18, 12:34?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...

On Feb 18, 1:29?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message


groups.com...


What a pathetic, fat, worthless old man - you have no social skills,
because your 24/7 interaction with people is spent blogging !


I gyuess this means that you can't refute my listing of AM n/t stations
already moved to FM.


Usenet is not a blogdspot.


The move has stalled with the FCC.


The FCC does not regulate or have anything to do with format changes.

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-
well.


And moving form AM to FM at an increasing pace, based on the early
successes.

There still are thousands of AM stations and I can always DX to
Canada - no nighttime IBOC in Canada.


There is none in the US, yet, either.

DAB has failed in Canada, as HD
Radio/IBOC is failing here.


Canada has proposed adopting HD,, and Mexico has operating stations already.


"Digital radio in Canada"

http://americanbandscan.blogspot.com...in-canada.html

You lose - IBOC shill !


[email protected] February 18th 07 08:01 PM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
On Feb 17, 3:13 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...



David Gleason, wrote:
Welfare?


I see. Your income comes from where?


Several sources, none of them being welfare, prancer boy!


All of them sharing the commonality that they come from the government, as
opposed to money you earned, right?



Actually, it was given me at the time of my baptism... which was about 50
years before the date you name


Absolutely pathological!


Just simply true...
...



Yeah, since it needs saving might as well QRM!


The way you seem to prefer is to reduce interference by having stations
fall
silent.


No, I'd like them to drop HD/IBOC. Pay attention, prancer!


Considering that AM is dying (nearly nobody under 35 ever listens) what you
are saying is that you want th eonly potentially viable solution for AM to
be discarded, which will result in a guarantee that AM will die, and soon.



Nobody but a few DXers really cares abut adjacent channel reception in
the
shadow of a powerful local signal.


Nobody?


Yeah, statistically, nobody.


AM dying - hardly:

The only things that are dying aer digital radio in Canada and IBOC
AM:

http://americanbandscan.blogspot.com...in-canada.html

"RW Opinion: Rethinking AM's future"

"Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of
reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the
anecdotal evidence suggests. (Ibiquity no longer reports in its public
summaries whether a station is on the air.)"

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.557.html

Bye bye, AM IBOC !


dxAce February 18th 07 08:08 PM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 


wrote:

On Feb 17, 3:13 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...



David Gleason, wrote:
Welfare?


I see. Your income comes from where?


Several sources, none of them being welfare, prancer boy!


All of them sharing the commonality that they come from the government, as
opposed to money you earned, right?



Actually, it was given me at the time of my baptism... which was about 50
years before the date you name


Absolutely pathological!


Just simply true...
...



Yeah, since it needs saving might as well QRM!


The way you seem to prefer is to reduce interference by having stations
fall
silent.


No, I'd like them to drop HD/IBOC. Pay attention, prancer!


Considering that AM is dying (nearly nobody under 35 ever listens) what you
are saying is that you want th eonly potentially viable solution for AM to
be discarded, which will result in a guarantee that AM will die, and soon.



Nobody but a few DXers really cares abut adjacent channel reception in
the
shadow of a powerful local signal.


Nobody?


Yeah, statistically, nobody.


AM dying - hardly:

The only things that are dying aer digital radio in Canada and IBOC
AM:

http://americanbandscan.blogspot.com...in-canada.html

"RW Opinion: Rethinking AM's future"

"Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of
reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the
anecdotal evidence suggests. (Ibiquity no longer reports in its public
summaries whether a station is on the air.)"

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.557.html

Bye bye, AM IBOC !


You're really gonna upset Edweenie, and he's already having a very rough day.



[email protected] February 18th 07 10:09 PM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
On Feb 18, 6:08?pm, dxAce wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 17, 3:13 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message


...


David Gleason, wrote:
Welfare?


I see. Your income comes from where?


Several sources, none of them being welfare, prancer boy!


All of them sharing the commonality that they come from the government, as
opposed to money you earned, right?


Actually, it was given me at the time of my baptism... which was about 50
years before the date you name


Absolutely pathological!


Just simply true...
...


Yeah, since it needs saving might as well QRM!


The way you seem to prefer is to reduce interference by having stations
fall
silent.


No, I'd like them to drop HD/IBOC. Pay attention, prancer!


Considering that AM is dying (nearly nobody under 35 ever listens) what you
are saying is that you want th eonly potentially viable solution for AM to
be discarded, which will result in a guarantee that AM will die, and soon.


Nobody but a few DXers really cares abut adjacent channel reception in
the
shadow of a powerful local signal.


Nobody?


Yeah, statistically, nobody.


AM dying - hardly:


The only things that are dying aer digital radio in Canada and IBOC
AM:


http://americanbandscan.blogspot.com...adio-in-canada....


"RW Opinion: Rethinking AM's future"


"Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of
reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the
anecdotal evidence suggests. (Ibiquity no longer reports in its public
summaries whether a station is on the air.)"


http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.557.html


Bye bye, AM IBOC !


You're really gonna upset Edweenie, and he's already having a very rough day.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What's up with that shill today ? I guess, I did go a bit over-board,
but I was ****ed at the assholes on RadioInfo.


dxAce February 18th 07 10:15 PM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 


wrote:

On Feb 18, 6:08?pm, dxAce wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 17, 3:13 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message


...


David Gleason, wrote:
Welfare?


I see. Your income comes from where?


Several sources, none of them being welfare, prancer boy!


All of them sharing the commonality that they come from the government, as
opposed to money you earned, right?


Actually, it was given me at the time of my baptism... which was about 50
years before the date you name


Absolutely pathological!


Just simply true...
...


Yeah, since it needs saving might as well QRM!


The way you seem to prefer is to reduce interference by having stations
fall
silent.


No, I'd like them to drop HD/IBOC. Pay attention, prancer!


Considering that AM is dying (nearly nobody under 35 ever listens) what you
are saying is that you want th eonly potentially viable solution for AM to
be discarded, which will result in a guarantee that AM will die, and soon.


Nobody but a few DXers really cares abut adjacent channel reception in
the
shadow of a powerful local signal.


Nobody?


Yeah, statistically, nobody.


AM dying - hardly:


The only things that are dying aer digital radio in Canada and IBOC
AM:


http://americanbandscan.blogspot.com...adio-in-canada....

"RW Opinion: Rethinking AM's future"


"Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of
reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the
anecdotal evidence suggests. (Ibiquity no longer reports in its public
summaries whether a station is on the air.)"


http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.557.html


Bye bye, AM IBOC !


You're really gonna upset Edweenie, and he's already having a very rough day.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What's up with that shill today ?


He was over on alt.politics.immigration, but I think he left for a good cry.

I guess, I did go a bit over-board,
but I was ****ed at the assholes on RadioInfo.



David Eduardo February 19th 07 02:12 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 18, 1:29?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...

What a pathetic, fat, worthless old man - you have no social
skills, because your 24/7 interaction with people is spent
blogging !

I gyuess this means that you can't refute my listing of AM n/t
stations already moved to FM.

Usenet is not a blogdspot.

The move has stalled with the FCC.


The FCC does not regulate or have anything to do with format changes.

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and- well.


And moving form AM to FM at an increasing pace, based on the early
successes.


Where is this happening?


Orlando, Pittsburgh, New Orleans, Jacksonville, Salt Lake City, Phoenix,
Dayton, Tallahassee, etc.

You expect that to happen in the LA area were
it will affect my listening?


Major runors that Clear is going to take the loser in the Spring or Summer
book out of KYSR, KHHT or KBIG and make it a simulcast of KFI. Eventually,
640 could be changed to another formrat, or kept for the senior citizens...



David Eduardo February 19th 07 02:18 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
In Philadelphia and New Orleans, FM news talkers are beating KDKA and WWL
respectively, showing that n/t, on FM will do much better than on AM.


Many of these, will be around for a long, long time:


The list is just stations that are 50 kw.... not the 1-A clears. Some, like
KMIK-1580, have neither complete day nor night coverage of the market they
are in due to high dial positions and extreme directionality. Quite a few of
the Canadians on that list are silent, having moved lock stock and barrel to
FM (the CRTC has a policy to encourage nearly all AMs to go to FM and close
down).

http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/50kwam.html


A number of these are so directional only the fish can hear them.



David Eduardo February 19th 07 02:19 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 18, 12:34?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

DAB has failed in Canada and IBOC will also - few digital radios have
been sold in Canada, as here. Canada has already stated that they will
not put up with nighttime interference. IBOC will fail in Canada and
the US.


Industry canada and the CRTC just began a formal inquiry (meaining a study)
into HD. There is absolutely no decision yet.




[email protected] February 19th 07 03:28 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
On Feb 19, 12:58?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...





On Feb 19, 12:23?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message


roups.com...


On Feb 17, 3:13 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:


AM dying - hardly:


Less than 20% of radio listening is to AM, and under age 45, it is less
than
12%. Under age 34. it is less than 8%. That is death in comfortable
monthly
payments. As Americans age, the average age of AM listeners increases
each
year. Listening by over-55's in rated markets produces no revenue.


The only things that are dying aer digital radio in Canada and IBOC
AM:


Industry Canada just started an inquiry into HD.


Of course, by the time they issue findings, the AM part may be moot.
except
for the major metros, Canada has a 10-year-old policy of encouraging AMs
to
go dark and switch to new FM channels... a significant portion of
Canadian
AMs have done this already. And this is because Canada no longer believes
AM
is viable as a mass medium.


Prove it !


It's a statement of policy. Look it up-. And while you are at it, look at a
1985 listing of Canadian AMs and one today. Way over 100, including things
like Winnipeg's first station, CBW-580, and Calgary's 50 kw CKXL are gone
and the frequency retired. The CBS has eliminated all but a half dozen of
its hundreds of AMs and LPRT transmitters. In the case of 740 in Toronto,
they stated that an AM could no longer adequately cover the highly urbanized
areas of Toronto, and handed in the 50 kw AM on 740...

Prince Edward Island became the first province to have no AM stations at
all, sometime last year. They all moved to FM.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


According to Radio Locator there are many AMs, just in the Ontario
Providence alone, in reach of Maryland:

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin...e=all&pre v=0

http://www.toronto.hm/radio.html

In addition to these lists, which I have access to many, I'll be dead,
before these US and Canadian AMs go dead, if ever.

http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/50kwam.html

Besides, AM talk/news/sports on the "clears" is alive-and-well, and
command higher ad dollars, than FM radio. Of course, your main focus,
as an IBOC shill, is to be a naysayer of the broadcast bands, so HD
Radio/IBOC can be the great savior. AM radio is not going
anywhere.Your sole purrpose in life, seems to be trying to make others
miserable - Univision must have you locked in an office, because no
one can stand to work with you, so no wonder, you just shill for IBOC
all day and night long. You really are a poor excuse of a man, and
also a high-school dropout.


David Eduardo February 19th 07 03:48 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 19, 12:58?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

According to Radio Locator there are many AMs, just in the Ontario
Providence alone, in reach of Maryland:


And that number is about or less than half the AMs in Canada a decade ago.
Canada has stated as official policy that AMs should only be left in large
markets where improtant niche markets can be served by AM that the FM band
can not accomodate. Examples are standards in Toronto or Chinese services in
Vancouver. Otherwise, the remaining AMs will nearly all move to FM over the
next few years.

In addition to these lists, which I have access to many, I'll be dead,
before these US and Canadian AMs go dead, if ever.


I'll send some flowers. Canada has reduced the total number of AMs by more
than half in the last decade, and exce´pt for a few major markets and a
couple of stations like CBW and CBK, no other AMs should be left in Canada.

South Africa eliminated all AM years ago... and many other nations have
fewer AMs today than 25 years ago.... even lesser developed nations like
Ecuador.

Besides, AM talk/news/sports on the "clears" is alive-and-well,


No, it is not. It is in revenue and ratings decline, albeit slow. None of
those 50 kw stations billed more last year than in 2005... most were down
significantly, per the industry source, BIA, and the millar KAplan market
reporting system.

and
command higher ad dollars, than FM radio.


Wrong. You do not get it, even when it is explained. Stations price by
delivery. 1000 listeners gets the same rate, whether on AM or FM. So a news
talk station with the same listenership in a sales demo as a music FM gets
the same rate per spot. The problem is that most of the AM news / talk
audience is NOT in sales demos, so news talk stations price below most big
FMs in major markets.

Of course, your main focus,
as an IBOC shill, is to be a naysayer of the broadcast bands, so HD
Radio/IBOC can be the great savior. AM radio is not going
anywhere.


With or without HD, the band is near death. HD may be a last chance. I even
doubt that, but not to try is foolish. Staying the same is lunacy.

Your sole purrpose in life, seems to be trying to make others
miserable - Univision must have you locked in an office, because no
one can stand to work with you, so no wonder, you just shill for IBOC
all day and night long.


I actually travel 40 to 45 weeks a year to the 17 markets we are in, talking
to listeners about what they like and don't like on the radio.

You really are a poor excuse of a man, and
also a high-school dropout.


I dropped out of High School because I was too busy building my first radio
station, HCRM1. That station became survey-proven and revenue proven #1 in
Quito, and was the base for a dozen or so more stations I built and owned.

School was pretty boring by comparison. Leaving high school (in the US) was
the best thing I could do... when I went back to do college about a decade
later, I chose the courses I wanted since a degree was not of any interest
to me... and that was truly fun and beneficial.

Your suggestion is, apparently, that dullards drop out of school. I dropped
out because it was boring, totally boring. Others drop out because they need
to work for family reasons. Still others drop out because the US system
sucks: we don't have the British one where at a certain point one decides on
a white collar path or a technical field.

So to indict dropouts is to ignore the fact that many have no choice, and
others know that a trade is more suited to them than a college career, while
others don't need the experience as they are autodidacts.



[email protected] February 19th 07 04:06 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
I see news tidbits about Brit schools once in a while and they are not
good.
cuhulin


dxAce February 19th 07 11:28 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

He was over on alt.politics.immigration, but I think he left for a good
cry.


No, I just got tired of your failure to understand how dual nationalities
work.


I understand perfectly. However, that has nothing to do with you being a
pathological liar.

Nice try, boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce February 19th 07 11:30 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 


David Eduardo wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 19, 12:58?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

According to Radio Locator there are many AMs, just in the Ontario
Providence alone, in reach of Maryland:


And that number is about or less than half the AMs in Canada a decade ago.
Canada has stated as official policy that AMs should only be left in large
markets where improtant niche markets can be served by AM that the FM band
can not accomodate. Examples are standards in Toronto or Chinese services in
Vancouver. Otherwise, the remaining AMs will nearly all move to FM over the
next few years.

In addition to these lists, which I have access to many, I'll be dead,
before these US and Canadian AMs go dead, if ever.


I'll send some flowers. Canada has reduced the total number of AMs by more
than half in the last decade, and exce´pt for a few major markets and a
couple of stations like CBW and CBK, no other AMs should be left in Canada.

South Africa eliminated all AM years ago... and many other nations have
fewer AMs today than 25 years ago.... even lesser developed nations like
Ecuador.

Besides, AM talk/news/sports on the "clears" is alive-and-well,


No, it is not. It is in revenue and ratings decline, albeit slow. None of
those 50 kw stations billed more last year than in 2005... most were down
significantly, per the industry source, BIA, and the millar KAplan market
reporting system.

and
command higher ad dollars, than FM radio.


Wrong. You do not get it, even when it is explained. Stations price by
delivery. 1000 listeners gets the same rate, whether on AM or FM. So a news
talk station with the same listenership in a sales demo as a music FM gets
the same rate per spot. The problem is that most of the AM news / talk
audience is NOT in sales demos, so news talk stations price below most big
FMs in major markets.

Of course, your main focus,
as an IBOC shill, is to be a naysayer of the broadcast bands, so HD
Radio/IBOC can be the great savior. AM radio is not going
anywhere.


With or without HD, the band is near death. HD may be a last chance. I even
doubt that, but not to try is foolish. Staying the same is lunacy.

Your sole purrpose in life, seems to be trying to make others
miserable - Univision must have you locked in an office, because no
one can stand to work with you, so no wonder, you just shill for IBOC
all day and night long.


I actually travel 40 to 45 weeks a year to the 17 markets we are in, talking
to listeners about what they like and don't like on the radio.

You really are a poor excuse of a man, and
also a high-school dropout.


I dropped out of High School because I was too busy building my first radio
station, HCRM1. That station became survey-proven and revenue proven #1 in
Quito, and was the base for a dozen or so more stations I built and owned.

School was pretty boring by comparison. Leaving high school (in the US) was
the best thing I could do... when I went back to do college about a decade
later, I chose the courses I wanted since a degree was not of any interest
to me... and that was truly fun and beneficial.

Your suggestion is, apparently, that dullards drop out of school. I dropped
out because it was boring, totally boring. Others drop out because they need
to work for family reasons. Still others drop out because the US system
sucks: we don't have the British one where at a certain point one decides on
a white collar path or a technical field.

So to indict dropouts is to ignore the fact that many have no choice, and
others know that a trade is more suited to them than a college career, while
others don't need the experience as they are autodidacts.


And some are pathologial liars such as yourself!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



[email protected] February 19th 07 04:34 PM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
I don't know if she has become a nationalized American yet,but I sort of
know a 30 year old Irish woman from Limerick,Ireland.She works at a pub
in the Atlanta area,or I guess she is still there,I haven't heard from
her in two or three years,I reckon I will email her.At least seven or
eight years ago,she got someone to sponsor her so she could move to
America.Maybe she is still strictly an Irish citizen.
cuhulin


Telamon February 20th 07 02:57 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 18, 1:29?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...

What a pathetic, fat, worthless old man - you have no social
skills, because your 24/7 interaction with people is spent
blogging !

I gyuess this means that you can't refute my listing of AM n/t
stations already moved to FM.

Usenet is not a blogdspot.

The move has stalled with the FCC.

The FCC does not regulate or have anything to do with format changes.

AM news/talk/sports is alive-and- well.

And moving form AM to FM at an increasing pace, based on the early
successes.


Where is this happening?


Orlando, Pittsburgh, New Orleans, Jacksonville, Salt Lake City, Phoenix,
Dayton, Tallahassee, etc.

You expect that to happen in the LA area were
it will affect my listening?


Major runors that Clear is going to take the loser in the Spring or Summer
book out of KYSR, KHHT or KBIG and make it a simulcast of KFI. Eventually,
640 could be changed to another formrat, or kept for the senior citizens...


So if this does not happen will you admit you are wrong on the whole
IBOC issue and formats?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David Eduardo February 20th 07 03:01 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

Major runors that Clear is going to take the loser in the Spring or
Summer
book out of KYSR, KHHT or KBIG and make it a simulcast of KFI.
Eventually,
640 could be changed to another formrat, or kept for the senior
citizens...


So if this does not happen will you admit you are wrong on the whole
IBOC issue and formats?


I said that if one o fthe three underperforming FMs in LA does not recover
int he next two books, it will be considered to reinforce KFI. Clear has
already made some major FM news talk moves, ranging from Tallahassee to New
Orleans to Pittsburgh.



David Eduardo February 20th 07 05:07 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

Major runors that Clear is going to take the loser in the Spring or
Summer
book out of KYSR, KHHT or KBIG and make it a simulcast of KFI.
Eventually,
640 could be changed to another formrat, or kept for the senior
citizens...

So if this does not happen will you admit you are wrong on the whole
IBOC issue and formats?


I said that if one o fthe three underperforming FMs in LA does not
recover
int he next two books, it will be considered to reinforce KFI. Clear has
already made some major FM news talk moves, ranging from Tallahassee to
New
Orleans to Pittsburgh.


OK fine but I consider your comment "Eventually, 640 could be changed to
another formrat (sic, format), or kept for the senior citizens..."
derogatory.


KFI has over 50% of its listeners in 55+, a demo no significant LA
advertiser buys. And the station is ageing every year, and will start to
decline in billings.



David Eduardo February 21st 07 04:13 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
.
..

Major runors that Clear is going to take the loser in the Spring or
Summer
book out of KYSR, KHHT or KBIG and make it a simulcast of KFI.
Eventually,
640 could be changed to another formrat, or kept for the senior
citizens...

So if this does not happen will you admit you are wrong on the whole
IBOC issue and formats?

I said that if one o fthe three underperforming FMs in LA does not
recover
int he next two books, it will be considered to reinforce KFI. Clear
has
already made some major FM news talk moves, ranging from Tallahassee
to
New
Orleans to Pittsburgh.

OK fine but I consider your comment "Eventually, 640 could be changed
to
another formrat (sic, format), or kept for the senior citizens..."
derogatory.


KFI has over 50% of its listeners in 55+, a demo no significant LA
advertiser buys. And the station is ageing every year, and will start to
decline in billings.


Why is that? The 55+ age group has more disposable income.


In the larger markets...

(Sidebar... 30% of all radio ad revenue is generated in just the first 10
markets)

.... most advertising is what is called "transactional" and placed by
agencies on behalf of agency clients. Transactional means that the buy is
based on the cost of delivery of some measure of listenership, like the
amount you pay to reach every 1000 listeners.

Ad agencies are given orders by the clients as to who they consider the best
potential consumers. The agency creates advertising directed at that group,
and then places ad buys based on cost /delivery to reach them.

In the simplest terms, advertisers don't go after anyone over 55. This has
nothing to do with the wealth or lack of same of that market segment. It has
to do with how many ads it takes to change a buying behaviour. Older
consumers take more convincing... thus, more ads... to make a sale. In many
cases, an ROI (Return on Investment) analysis shows advertising to older
consumers causes a loss with every sale.

Lots of people drink beer... but most beer ads are directed at 21 to 39 year
old males, because that is where the money is. The ROI on advertising to
other groups is low or not profitable.

As an example, in LA last year... and LA is the biggest revenue radio ad
market... there were no buys by agencies against 55+.

So, that is the problem with AM. 80% of its listening is by listeners over
45, and much of that is by people over 55... an audience nobody really wants
in the larger, rated markets. In smaller markets, or suburban situations,
local direct advertisers will be more flexible... but for the bulk of US
radio advertising, 55+ is not desirable.



dxAce February 21st 07 04:16 AM

HD AM in NJ/NY ?
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
.
..

Major runors that Clear is going to take the loser in the Spring or
Summer
book out of KYSR, KHHT or KBIG and make it a simulcast of KFI.
Eventually,
640 could be changed to another formrat, or kept for the senior
citizens...

So if this does not happen will you admit you are wrong on the whole
IBOC issue and formats?

I said that if one o fthe three underperforming FMs in LA does not
recover
int he next two books, it will be considered to reinforce KFI. Clear
has
already made some major FM news talk moves, ranging from Tallahassee
to
New
Orleans to Pittsburgh.

OK fine but I consider your comment "Eventually, 640 could be changed
to
another formrat (sic, format), or kept for the senior citizens..."
derogatory.

KFI has over 50% of its listeners in 55+, a demo no significant LA
advertiser buys. And the station is ageing every year, and will start to
decline in billings.


Why is that? The 55+ age group has more disposable income.


In the larger markets...

(Sidebar... 30% of all radio ad revenue is generated in just the first 10
markets)

... most advertising is what is called "transactional" and placed by
agencies on behalf of agency clients. Transactional means that the buy is
based on the cost of delivery of some measure of listenership, like the
amount you pay to reach every 1000 listeners.

Ad agencies are given orders by the clients as to who they consider the best
potential consumers. The agency creates advertising directed at that group,
and then places ad buys based on cost /delivery to reach them.

In the simplest terms, advertisers don't go after anyone over 55. This has
nothing to do with the wealth or lack of same of that market segment. It has
to do with how many ads it takes to change a buying behaviour. Older
consumers take more convincing... thus, more ads... to make a sale. In many
cases, an ROI (Return on Investment) analysis shows advertising to older
consumers causes a loss with every sale.

Lots of people drink beer... but most beer ads are directed at 21 to 39 year
old males, because that is where the money is. The ROI on advertising to
other groups is low or not profitable.

As an example, in LA last year... and LA is the biggest revenue radio ad
market... there were no buys by agencies against 55+.

So, that is the problem with AM. 80% of its listening is by listeners over
45, and much of that is by people over 55... an audience nobody really wants
in the larger, rated markets. In smaller markets, or suburban situations,
local direct advertisers will be more flexible... but for the bulk of US
radio advertising, 55+ is not desirable.


And you be 60... into da bin wid you, boy.

Adios, puto.

dxAce
Michigan
USA





All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:11 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
RadioBanter.com