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Well, from what I can hear there are only 3 stations left on the air
transmitting the IBOC signal on AM in the NY/NJ area. 660, 710 and 770. It would seem to me that it is'nt catching on at all. I have never purchased an AM HD radio because they are so expensive and non-available for the most part and I am glad to have waited. FM may be better for IBOC but I can't tell if they are broadcasting IBOC..it may be a success on FM if radios get cheap and available. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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On Feb 14, 12:51 pm, Rich wrote:
Well, from what I can hear there are only 3 stations left on the air transmitting the IBOC signal on AM in the NY/NJ area. 660, 710 and 770. It would seem to me that it is'nt catching on at all. I have never purchased an AM HD radio because they are so expensive and non-available for the most part and I am glad to have waited. FM may be better for IBOC but I can't tell if they are broadcasting IBOC..it may be a success on FM if radios get cheap and available. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client:http://www.opera.com/mail/ Excellent - looks like HD Radio/IBOC on AM is almost dead: "RW Opinion: Rethinking AM's future" "Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the anecdotal evidence suggests. (Ibiquity no longer reports in its public summaries whether a station is on the air.)" http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.557.html |
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Just imagine the Heinekens going out the door if everybody started
having to have HD radios.There would be more ''Katrinas'' all over America.DIE,IBOC,DIE! cuhulin |
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On Feb 14, 9:51 am, Rich wrote:
Well, from what I can hear there are only 3 stations left on the air transmitting the IBOC signal on AM in the NY/NJ area. 660, 710 and 770. It would seem to me that it is'nt catching on at all. I have never purchased an AM HD radio because they are so expensive and non-available for the most part and I am glad to have waited. FM may be better for IBOC but I can't tell if they are broadcasting IBOC..it may be a success on FM if radios get cheap and available. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client:http://www.opera.com/mail/ Interest in the NYC area is spectacularly low, despite the catchy sales slogan: "It's high fidelity, just like FM--only you have to buy a special radio. And the program content will be basically the same content you already hear and don't care for on analog AM. And the signal won't carry as well, and there'll be drop outs. Don't miss out!" |
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Steve wrote: On Feb 14, 9:51 am, Rich wrote: Well, from what I can hear there are only 3 stations left on the air transmitting the IBOC signal on AM in the NY/NJ area. 660, 710 and 770. It would seem to me that it is'nt catching on at all. I have never purchased an AM HD radio because they are so expensive and non-available for the most part and I am glad to have waited. FM may be better for IBOC but I can't tell if they are broadcasting IBOC..it may be a success on FM if radios get cheap and available. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client:http://www.opera.com/mail/ Interest in the NYC area is spectacularly low, despite the catchy sales slogan: "It's high fidelity, just like FM--only you have to buy a special radio. And the program content will be basically the same content you already hear and don't care for on analog AM. And the signal won't carry as well, and there'll be drop outs. Don't miss out!" Damn, you're really gonna **** Edweenie off with that.. dxAce Michigan USA |
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NYC hands out condoms for Valentines day. www.drudgereport.com
Certainly more usefull than IBOC will ever be. cuhulin |
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On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:51:05 -0500, Rich
wrote: Well, from what I can hear there are only 3 stations left on the air transmitting the IBOC signal on AM in the NY/NJ area. 660, 710 and 770. It would seem to me that it is'nt catching on at all. I have never purchased an AM HD radio because they are so expensive and non-available for the most part and I am glad to have waited. FM may be better for IBOC but I can't tell if they are broadcasting IBOC..it may be a success on FM if radios get cheap and available. http://www.nyradiotv.com/digitalradio.htm WFAN 660 (Infinity, sports, 50 kw) WOR 710 (Buckley, talk, 50 kw) WABC 770 (Disney, talk, 50 kw) WNYC 820 (non-profit, variety) WADO 1280 (Univision - news in Spanish) Also, WCBS 880 (50 kw) and WINS 1010 (50 kw but Canadian clear channel) (both Infinity all news outlets) say so on their web pages (wcbs880.com and 1010wins.com) Googling around, I also see that Multiethnic's WPAT (930, Spanish music, Patterson, NJ) has an HD license which they use from time to time. I don't see any indication that the two other 50 kw AM outlets in NYC (Disney sports WEPN 1050, Canadian clear channel, and Disney kids WQEW, 1560) are HD. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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WINS is not HD on AM. WINS news is on FM-HD2 of WWFS (formerly WNEW)
at 102.7-2 . WCBS is HD on AM, but they are having technical problems with their exciter- for a few weeks already. Remember that HD on AM is during the daytime only. I would -hope- that Ibiquity's website would be the most accurate. This is the URL to the NYC listings: http://www.ibiquity.com/hd_radio/hdr...NY#stationlist On Feb 14, 4:57 pm, Tester wrote: On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:51:05 -0500, Rich wrote: Well, from what I can hear there are only 3 stations left on the air transmitting the IBOC signal on AM in the NY/NJ area. 660, 710 and 770. It would seem to me that it is'nt catching on at all. I have never purchased an AM HD radio because they are so expensive and non-available for the most part and I am glad to have waited. FM may be better for IBOC but I can't tell if they are broadcasting IBOC..it may be a success on FM if radios get cheap and available. http://www.nyradiotv.com/digitalradio.htm WFAN 660 (Infinity, sports, 50 kw) WOR 710 (Buckley, talk, 50 kw) WABC 770 (Disney, talk, 50 kw) WNYC 820 (non-profit, variety) WADO 1280 (Univision - news in Spanish) Also, WCBS 880 (50 kw) and WINS 1010 (50 kw but Canadian clear channel) (both Infinity all news outlets) say so on their web pages (wcbs880.com and 1010wins.com) Googling around, I also see that Multiethnic's WPAT (930, Spanish music, Patterson, NJ) has an HD license which they use from time to time. I don't see any indication that the two other 50 kw AM outlets in NYC (Disney sports WEPN 1050, Canadian clear channel, and Disney kids WQEW, 1560) are HD. -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com |
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Well, Ibiquity's website is definately not up to date when it comes to
call letters or music formats... But, I do know those are the current status of WCBS and WINS (I do NOT work for those companies or CBS Radio - it's not inside info...). |
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wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 14, 12:51 pm, Rich wrote: Well, from what I can hear there are only 3 stations left on the air transmitting the IBOC signal on AM in the NY/NJ area. 660, 710 and 770. It would seem to me that it is'nt catching on at all. I have never purchased an AM HD radio because they are so expensive and non-available for the most part and I am glad to have waited. FM may be better for IBOC but I can't tell if they are broadcasting IBOC..it may be a success on FM if radios get cheap and available. Excellent - looks like HD Radio/IBOC on AM is almost dead: "RW Opinion: Rethinking AM's future" "Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the anecdotal evidence suggests. (Ibiquity no longer reports in its public summaries whether a station is on the air.)" If AM stations don't do anything to stem the tide of losing listenership it will soon go the way of shortwave. Why would anyone spend over a $1000 or $500 or $150 or even $30 on a shortwave radio and many feet of wire hanging precariously around the garden only to hope to listen to a handful or two of foreign radio stations broadcasting primarily propaganda in the English language for about 1 hour a day at best on constantly changing frequencies and schedules? All the while hoping 'Ol Sol will bless the listener with the rare event of no static, no fading and complete aural comprehension? If you listen to anal-log shortwave you have got to be an idiot. GOD BLESS IBOC, DRM, etc! |
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God Bless everything Analog.When we speak,do our voice boxes broadcast
in Analog?,I think so.Mother Nature never used digital. cuhulin |
HD AM in NJ/NY ?
God Bless everything Analog.When we speak,do our voice boxes broadcast
in Analog?,I think so.Mother Nature never used digital. The entire Universe is digital - Physicists have yet to discover an analog sub-atomic particle. The screen you are reading this from is made up of discrete digital pixels - look closer " . " Your analog senses can't resolve digital information smaller than 1/60th of a second in duration. |
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On Feb 15, 2:13�pm, "Guerite�" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 14, 12:51 pm, Rich wrote: Well, from what I can hear there are only 3 stations left on the air transmitting the IBOC signal on AM in the NY/NJ area. 660, 710 and 770. It would seem to me that it is'nt catching on at all. I have never purchased an AM HD radio because they are so expensive and non-available for the most part and I am glad to have waited. FM may be better for IBOC but I can't tell if they are broadcasting IBOC..it may be a success on FM if radios get cheap and available. Excellent - looks like HD Radio/IBOC on AM is almost dead: "RW Opinion: Rethinking AM's future" "Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the anecdotal evidence suggests. (Ibiquity no longer reports in its public summaries whether a station is on the air.)" If AM stations don't do anything to stem the tide of losing listenership it will soon go the way of shortwave. Why would anyone spend over a $1000 or $500 or $150 or even $30 on a shortwave radio and many feet of wire hanging precariously around the garden only to hope to listen to a handful or two of foreign radio stations broadcasting primarily propaganda in the English language for about 1 hour a day at best on constantly changing frequencies and schedules? *All the while hoping 'Ol Sol will bless the listener with the rare event of no static, no fading and complete aural comprehension? If you listen to anal-log shortwave you have got to be an idiot. GOD BLESS IBOC, DRM, etc!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Little do you realize, that news/talk/sports on the clear-channels command a higher advertising fee, than FM - too bad, asshole, AM is alive and well. It is IBOC, that is failing, not analog. |
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On Feb 15, 12:38 pm, "Guerite³" wrote:
God Bless everything Analog.When we speak,do our voice boxes broadcast in Analog?,I think so.Mother Nature never used digital. The entire Universe is digital - Physicists have yet to discover an analog sub-atomic particle. The screen you are reading this from is made up of discrete digital pixels - look closer " . " Your analog senses can't resolve digital information smaller than 1/60th of a second in duration. - give me a Nice Digital Earth Quake or Digital Tidal wave any day . . . Digital Sunrises, digital Landslides, Digital Volcanic Eruptions, Digital Plagues of Locusts, Too.. And, for you religious types, theres The Digital Crucifixion . . ! DIE IBOC, DIE ! ! ! ! |
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wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 15, 2:13?pm, "Guerite?" wrote: Little do you realize, that news/talk/sports on the clear-channels command a higher advertising fee, than FM - too bad, asshole, AM is alive and well. It is IBOC, that is failing, not analog. No, that is not true. Advertising is priced based on delivery of listeners, no matter what the format. It is always a function of a certain dollar amount for each thousand listeners, and pricing is by delivery. A news talk station with good ratings gets the same rate as an FM with the same ratings in the age group an advertiser is buying. The issue with news talkers is they often bill among the higer range in a market because they have higher numbers of minutes of spots. While most larger market FMs sell no more than 10 to 12 minutes of commercials, news talk often goes to 18 minutes and has more inventory. The problem with AM news talk stations is that most have around half the listeners over age 55, where there are nearly no agency ad buys. In the US, there are 4665 AMs as of last week. Of the ones in rated markets, only a small percentage, maybe 20% at best, are viable (decent signal and full market day and night coverage) and these tend to do well. The rest are either religious, brokered or ethnic. For example, there is no vable AM in Washington, DC. Phoenix has only 2. So what you can see is that while a market may have well over a dozen viable FMs, the number of AMs is tiny. |
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On Feb 14, 4:57 pm, Tester wrote:
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:51:05 -0500, Rich wrote: Well, from what I can hear there are only 3 stations left on the air transmitting the IBOC signal on AM in the NY/NJ area. 660, 710 and 770. It would seem to me that it is'nt catching on at all. I have never purchased an AM HD radio because they are so expensive and non-available for the most part and I am glad to have waited. FM may be better for IBOC but I can't tell if they are broadcasting IBOC..it may be a success on FM if radios get cheap and available. http://www.nyradiotv.com/digitalradio.htm WFAN 660 (Infinity, sports, 50 kw) WOR 710 (Buckley, talk, 50 kw) WABC 770 (Disney, talk, 50 kw) WNYC 820 (non-profit, variety) WADO 1280 (Univision - news in Spanish) Also, WCBS 880 (50 kw) and WINS 1010 (50 kw but Canadian clear channel) (both Infinity all news outlets) say so on their web pages (wcbs880.com and 1010wins.com) Googling around, I also see that Multiethnic's WPAT (930, Spanish music, Patterson, NJ) has an HD license which they use from time to time. I don't see any indication that the two other 50 kw AM outlets in NYC (Disney sports WEPN 1050, Canadian clear channel, and Disney kids WQEW, 1560) are HD. -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com Most of the above are ' Talk Radio", - what is the purpose of having them in HD ? |
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On Feb 15, 11:37�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 15, 2:13?pm, "Guerite?" wrote: Little do you realize, that news/talk/sports on the clear-channels command a higher advertising fee, than FM - *too bad, asshole, AM is alive and well. It is IBOC, that is failing, not analog. No, that is not true. Advertising is priced based on delivery of listeners, no matter what the format. It is always a function of a certain dollar amount for each thousand listeners, and pricing is by delivery. A news talk station with good ratings gets the same rate as an FM with the same ratings in the age group an advertiser is buying. The issue with news talkers is they often bill among the higer range in a market because they have higher numbers of minutes of spots. While most larger market FMs sell no more than 10 to 12 minutes of commercials, news talk often goes to 18 minutes and has more inventory. The problem with AM news talk stations is that most have around half the listeners over age 55, where there are nearly no agency ad buys. In the US, there are 4665 AMs as of last week. Of the ones in rated markets, only a small percentage, maybe 20% at best, are viable (decent signal and full market day and night coverage) and these tend to do well. The rest are either religious, brokered or ethnic. For example, there is no vable AM in Washington, DC. Phoenix has only 2. So what you can see is that while a market may have well over a dozen viable FMs, the number of AMs is tiny. There are a ton of AM stations in the D.C area, which I never listen to, anyway. I read, that news/talk/sports on the "clears" on AM are alive-and-well and command higher ad fees than FM. BTW, there is more- and-more negativity surrounding HD Radio, and it is all but dead on AM - IBOC shall die, as DAB has in Canada. Analog AM will be around for many years - too bad ! Consumers are not interested in HD Radio, as 75% of consumers are aware of HD Radio, but interest in HD Radio has been flat-lined for two years: http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd...ius%2C+podcast Sucka ! |
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Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better
than analog! It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night. FM HD doesn't have too much of an audio improvement over analog HD. The thing with FM HD, is that you can have access to more programs. Most of the above are ' Talk Radio", - what is the purpose of having them in HD ?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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http://mta.usnetworx.com/pointe-inno...hp?entryID=642
AM and FM Radio,most people listen to information,news,music or some other form of entertainment.Seems to me HD IBOC radios aren't exactly flying off the shelves compared to the millions of AM/FM radios that are sold in America every day. cuhulin. |
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wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 15, 11:37?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message For example, there is no vable AM in Washington, DC. Phoenix has only 2. So what you can see is that while a market may have well over a dozen viable FMs, the number of AMs is tiny. There are a ton of AM stations in the D.C area, which I never listen to, anyway. And not one is vable. Not one covers the entire metro day and night. I read, that news/talk/sports on the "clears" on AM are alive-and-well and command higher ad fees than FM. As I said, this is not true. they get the same ad rates ("fee" is the wrong word) per listener as any other station. And there are only 24 or 25 of those stations (Former 1-A clears) in the whole country, out of nearly 5 thousand AM stations. BTW, there is more- and-more negativity surrounding HD Radio, and it is all but dead on AM No, it isn't. Stations in mmajor markets with good signals (about 150 stations in the top 100 markets) either are or will be on with HD. The rest don't matter as they have no audience and don't cover their markets. - IBOC shall die, as DAB has in Canada. Analog AM will be around for many years - too bad ! Analog AM is dying. Fast. HD may not save it, but there is a chance. Without it, AM is fading and the only really big format news/talk, is starting to move to FM where it attracts attractive listeners for advertisers that it does not do on AM. Consumers are not interested in HD Radio, as 75% of consumers are aware of HD Radio, but interest in HD Radio has been flat-lined for two years: Interesting, since the "official" launch was in the second quarter of 2006. |
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wrote in message ups.com... Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better than analog! It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night. But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not matter, business wise. |
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David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo' wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better than analog! It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night. But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not matter, business wise. Better to cause interference in the daytime when there are lots of listeners. HD/IBOC = QRM dxAce Michigan USA |
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I pick off Limbaugh from WJR now, a couple hundred miles away, instead
of the local outlet, because the HD signal is cleaner audio-wise, and WJR doesn't add the trace of echo chamber that the local affiliate thinks makes them sound good. However, I need an external AM antenna to do it. The trouble with HD AM is that the ones using it aren't the ones paying the cost; the adjacent channel stations are. Why the FCC allows that, I can't say. Probably a payoff from IBOC. -- Ron Hardin On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk. |
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:39:58 -0800, "David Eduardo"
wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better than analog! It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night. But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not matter, business wise. Broadcasting in the public interest includes the night. |
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On Feb 16, 5:39�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 15, 11:37?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message For example, there is no vable AM in Washington, DC. Phoenix has only 2. So what you can see is that while a market may have well over a dozen viable FMs, the number of AMs is tiny. There are a ton of AM stations in the D.C area, which I never listen to, anyway. And not one is vable. Not one covers the entire metro day and night. I read, that news/talk/sports on the "clears" on AM are alive-and-well and command higher ad fees than FM. As I said, this is not true. they get the same ad rates ("fee" is the wrong word) per listener as any other station. And there are only 24 or 25 of those stations (Former 1-A clears) in the whole country, out of nearly 5 thousand AM stations. BTW, there is more- and-more negativity surrounding HD Radio, and it is all but dead on AM No, it isn't. Stations in mmajor markets with good signals (about 150 stations in the top 100 markets) either are or will be on with HD. The rest don't matter as they have no audience and don't cover their markets. - IBOC shall die, as DAB has in Canada. *Analog AM will be around for many years - too bad ! Analog AM is dying. Fast. HD may not save it, but there is a chance. Without it, AM is fading and the only really big format news/talk, is starting to move to FM where it attracts attractive listeners for advertisers that it does not do on AM. Consumers are not interested in HD Radio, as 75% of consumers are aware of HD Radio, but interest in HD Radio has been flat-lined for two years: Interesting, since the "official" launch was in the second quarter of 2006. Just, like the big launch of 2006 - the Cartel is using the same failed strategies ! |
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On Feb 16, 2:05�am, wrote:
Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better than analog! It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! *That's why WINS AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night. FM HD doesn't have too much of an audio improvement over analog HD. The thing with FM HD, is that you can have access to more programs. Most of the above are ' Talk Radio", - what is the purpose of having them in HD ?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The broadcast bands are already over-crowed with stations - who needs more low-bitrate HD channels, that broadcast the same repetitive programming, if one can even receive the lousy HD channels. |
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On Feb 16, 5:39�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 15, 11:37?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message For example, there is no vable AM in Washington, DC. Phoenix has only 2. So what you can see is that while a market may have well over a dozen viable FMs, the number of AMs is tiny. There are a ton of AM stations in the D.C area, which I never listen to, anyway. And not one is vable. Not one covers the entire metro day and night. I read, that news/talk/sports on the "clears" on AM are alive-and-well and command higher ad fees than FM. As I said, this is not true. they get the same ad rates ("fee" is the wrong word) per listener as any other station. And there are only 24 or 25 of those stations (Former 1-A clears) in the whole country, out of nearly 5 thousand AM stations. BTW, there is more- and-more negativity surrounding HD Radio, and it is all but dead on AM No, it isn't. Stations in mmajor markets with good signals (about 150 stations in the top 100 markets) either are or will be on with HD. The rest don't matter as they have no audience and don't cover their markets. - IBOC shall die, as DAB has in Canada. *Analog AM will be around for many years - too bad ! Analog AM is dying. Fast. HD may not save it, but there is a chance. Without it, AM is fading and the only really big format news/talk, is starting to move to FM where it attracts attractive listeners for advertisers that it does not do on AM. Consumers are not interested in HD Radio, as 75% of consumers are aware of HD Radio, but interest in HD Radio has been flat-lined for two years: Interesting, since the "official" launch was in the second quarter of 2006. As I said, news/talk/sports on AM is alive-and-well and command higher ad dollars than FM. You are just one of the naysayers, who shill IBOC,as the great savior. The FM band is already over-crowded and there is no big move from AM to FM. |
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On Feb 16, 5:39�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better than analog! It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! *That's why WINS AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night. But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not matter, business wise. If that is true, then why is news/talk/.sport so popular at night. |
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You argue like a two year old.
wrote Neo-Liberal non-logic |
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wrote If that is true, then why is news/talk/.sport so popular at night. Says you? bwaHAHAHA!!!! |
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On Feb 16, 3:50�pm, "Guerite�" wrote:
wrote If that is true, then why is news/talk/.sport so popular at night. Says you? *bwaHAHAHA!!!! So, how much did you **** away, on your worthless HD radios ? bwaHAHAHA!!!! |
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On Feb 16, 3:47?pm, "Guerite?" wrote:
You argue like a two year old. wrote Neo-Liberal non-logic You, talk like a one-year-old. |
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"David" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:39:58 -0800, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better than analog! It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night. But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not matter, business wise. Broadcasting in the public interest includes the night. And what interest is served by a band that becomes unused and irrelevant? Only a few percent of all listeners under 35 ever listen to AM (in other words, under 10%) and that figure declines every year. Anyway, younger listeners have chosen to pretty much ignore AM all day, and the few remaining ones use the band even less at night. This is a listener decision, not a station one. Further, a station may choose what listener group it is going to serve, including by age, sex, ethnicity, etc. Service does not mean serving all people alike... just some of them. |
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wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 16, 5:39?am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message As I said, news/talk/sports on AM is alive-and-well and command higher ad dollars than FM. You are just one of the naysayers, who shill IBOC,as the great savior. The FM band is already over-crowded and there is no big move from AM to FM. News/talkers on AM get "market rates" that are identical for each demograsphic target to FMs. A station with 50,000 AQH listeners on AM will get the same rate as one on FM, not more... as long as you are comparing the same demos. AM news talk stations do NOT get higher rates for equivalent listenrship than FMs do. I did not say AM statios were turning in their licences and getting new FM licences. Operators are moving ageing talk formats from AM to FM to improve the younger demo performance... KTAR AM in Phoenix moved to FM, making the AM all sports after moving the sports format from another, inferior AM whcih will be sold or donated. WTOP AM in Washington, DC, a 50 kw AM, moved 100% to FM and put an experimental format on the AM in conjunction with a local newswpaper. KSL in Salt Lake City began simulcasting in 2006 with an FM to improve younger demos... despite KSL being a 1A clear channel. WNLS in Tallahassee moved the n/t format to FM, leaving sports on the AM. Clear Channel has started FM news talkers in Pittsburg and New Orleans from scratch. The P'burg one already beats AMer KDKA significantly in 25-54, and the NO one is dramatically impacting WWL, clear channel 870. Cox has begun simulcasting is Jacksonville and Dayton AM talkers on FM to improved the greying demos and lake of sales growth on the AM band. And the story is just beginning. News talk can't survive long on AM as the demos are old and unsalable, so more and more will move to FM. |
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wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 16, 5:39?am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better than analog! It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night. But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not matter, business wise. If that is true, then why is news/talk/.sport so popular at night. It isn't. |
HD AM in NJ/NY ?
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 01:53:32 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote: And what interest is served by a band that becomes unused and irrelevant? Only a few percent of all listeners under 35 ever listen to AM (in other words, under 10%) That's still millions of people. You are a whore. |
HD AM in NJ/NY ?
On Feb 17, 12:03?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 16, 5:39?am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better than analog! It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night. But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not matter, business wise. If that is true, then why is news/talk/.sport so popular at night. It isn't. Another IBOC shill, full-of-**** ! |
HD AM in NJ/NY ?
On Feb 17, 12:02?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 16, 5:39?am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message As I said, news/talk/sports on AM is alive-and-well and command higher ad dollars than FM. You are just one of the naysayers, who shill IBOC,as the great savior. The FM band is already over-crowded and there is no big move from AM to FM. News/talkers on AM get "market rates" that are identical for each demograsphic target to FMs. A station with 50,000 AQH listeners on AM will get the same rate as one on FM, not more... as long as you are comparing the same demos. AM news talk stations do NOT get higher rates for equivalent listenrship than FMs do. I did not say AM statios were turning in their licences and getting new FM licences. Operators are moving ageing talk formats from AM to FM to improve the younger demo performance... KTAR AM in Phoenix moved to FM, making the AM all sports after moving the sports format from another, inferior AM whcih will be sold or donated. WTOP AM in Washington, DC, a 50 kw AM, moved 100% to FM and put an experimental format on the AM in conjunction with a local newswpaper. KSL in Salt Lake City began simulcasting in 2006 with an FM to improve younger demos... despite KSL being a 1A clear channel. WNLS in Tallahassee moved the n/t format to FM, leaving sports on the AM. Clear Channel has started FM news talkers in Pittsburg and New Orleans from scratch. The P'burg one already beats AMer KDKA significantly in 25-54, and the NO one is dramatically impacting WWL, clear channel 870. Cox has begun simulcasting is Jacksonville and Dayton AM talkers on FM to improved the greying demos and lake of sales growth on the AM band. And the story is just beginning. News talk can't survive long on AM as the demos are old and unsalable, so more and more will move to FM. There's not enough room on FM |
HD AM in NJ/NY ?
On Feb 17, 12:02?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 16, 5:39?am, "David Eduardo" wrote: wrote in message As I said, news/talk/sports on AM is alive-and-well and command higher ad dollars than FM. You are just one of the naysayers, who shill IBOC,as the great savior. The FM band is already over-crowded and there is no big move from AM to FM. News/talkers on AM get "market rates" that are identical for each demograsphic target to FMs. A station with 50,000 AQH listeners on AM will get the same rate as one on FM, not more... as long as you are comparing the same demos. AM news talk stations do NOT get higher rates for equivalent listenrship than FMs do. I did not say AM statios were turning in their licences and getting new FM licences. Operators are moving ageing talk formats from AM to FM to improve the younger demo performance... KTAR AM in Phoenix moved to FM, making the AM all sports after moving the sports format from another, inferior AM whcih will be sold or donated. WTOP AM in Washington, DC, a 50 kw AM, moved 100% to FM and put an experimental format on the AM in conjunction with a local newswpaper. KSL in Salt Lake City began simulcasting in 2006 with an FM to improve younger demos... despite KSL being a 1A clear channel. WNLS in Tallahassee moved the n/t format to FM, leaving sports on the AM. Clear Channel has started FM news talkers in Pittsburg and New Orleans from scratch. The P'burg one already beats AMer KDKA significantly in 25-54, and the NO one is dramatically impacting WWL, clear channel 870. Cox has begun simulcasting is Jacksonville and Dayton AM talkers on FM to improved the greying demos and lake of sales growth on the AM band. And the story is just beginning. News talk can't survive long on AM as the demos are old and unsalable, so more and more will move to FM. "FM Translators for AM Stations?" "And this might not be the best case. As you may remember, the FCC already has an open proceeding trying to determine the relative value of FM translators versus low power FM stations. That proceeding seeks to determine if low power FM stations should receive a preference over FM translators. That proceeding also put a freeze on the processing of all new FM translator applications - a freeze that was supposed to last 6 months but has now been in place for almost a year and a half. Since the FM translators that would be authorized by the NAB proposal could also preclude LPFM stations, as well as be precluded by the translators still pending from the last FM translator window, the opportunity to file for translators for AM stations may be technically precluded in some areas, and may not be able to occur until the LPFM issues are resolved. And none of that may come quickly." http://www.broadcastlawblog.com/arch...-stations.html You lose ! |
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