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If that is true, then why is news/talk/.sport so popular at night.


Says you? bwaHAHAHA!!!!


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On Feb 16, 3:50�pm, "Guerite�" wrote:
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If that is true, then why is news/talk/.sport so popular at night.


Says you? *bwaHAHAHA!!!!


So, how much did you **** away, on your worthless HD radios ?
bwaHAHAHA!!!!

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You, talk like a one-year-old.

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On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:39:58 -0800, "David Eduardo"
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roups.com...
Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better
than analog!
It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the
day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS
AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night.


But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not
matter,
business wise.

Broadcasting in the public interest includes the night.


And what interest is served by a band that becomes unused and irrelevant?
Only a few percent of all listeners under 35 ever listen to AM (in other
words, under 10%) and that figure declines every year.

Anyway, younger listeners have chosen to pretty much ignore AM all day, and
the few remaining ones use the band even less at night. This is a listener
decision, not a station one.

Further, a station may choose what listener group it is going to serve,
including by age, sex, ethnicity, etc. Service does not mean serving all
people alike... just some of them.


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On Feb 16, 5:39?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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As I said, news/talk/sports on AM is alive-and-well and command higher
ad dollars than FM. You are just one of the naysayers, who shill
IBOC,as the great savior. The FM band is already over-crowded and
there is no big move from AM to FM.

News/talkers on AM get "market rates" that are identical for each
demograsphic target to FMs. A station with 50,000 AQH listeners on AM will
get the same rate as one on FM, not more... as long as you are comparing the
same demos.

AM news talk stations do NOT get higher rates for equivalent listenrship
than FMs do.

I did not say AM statios were turning in their licences and getting new FM
licences. Operators are moving ageing talk formats from AM to FM to improve
the younger demo performance...

KTAR AM in Phoenix moved to FM, making the AM all sports after moving the
sports format from another, inferior AM whcih will be sold or donated.

WTOP AM in Washington, DC, a 50 kw AM, moved 100% to FM and put an
experimental format on the AM in conjunction with a local newswpaper.

KSL in Salt Lake City began simulcasting in 2006 with an FM to improve
younger demos... despite KSL being a 1A clear channel.

WNLS in Tallahassee moved the n/t format to FM, leaving sports on the AM.

Clear Channel has started FM news talkers in Pittsburg and New Orleans from
scratch. The P'burg one already beats AMer KDKA significantly in 25-54, and
the NO one is dramatically impacting WWL, clear channel 870.

Cox has begun simulcasting is Jacksonville and Dayton AM talkers on FM to
improved the greying demos and lake of sales growth on the AM band.

And the story is just beginning. News talk can't survive long on AM as the
demos are old and unsalable, so more and more will move to FM.




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On Feb 16, 5:39?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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ups.com...

Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better
than analog!
It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the
day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS
AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night.


But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not
matter,
business wise.


If that is true, then why is news/talk/.sport so popular at night.


It isn't.


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On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 01:53:32 GMT, "David Eduardo"
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And what interest is served by a band that becomes unused and irrelevant?
Only a few percent of all listeners under 35 ever listen to AM (in other
words, under 10%)


That's still millions of people. You are a whore.
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On Feb 17, 12:03?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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ups.com...
On Feb 16, 5:39?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

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oups.com...


Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better
than analog!
It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the
day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS
AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night.


But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not
matter,
business wise.
If that is true, then why is news/talk/.sport so popular at night.


It isn't.


Another IBOC shill, full-of-**** !

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On Feb 17, 12:02?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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oups.com...
On Feb 16, 5:39?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

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As I said, news/talk/sports on AM is alive-and-well and command higher
ad dollars than FM. You are just one of the naysayers, who shill
IBOC,as the great savior. The FM band is already over-crowded and
there is no big move from AM to FM.

News/talkers on AM get "market rates" that are identical for each
demograsphic target to FMs. A station with 50,000 AQH listeners on AM will
get the same rate as one on FM, not more... as long as you are comparing the
same demos.

AM news talk stations do NOT get higher rates for equivalent listenrship
than FMs do.

I did not say AM statios were turning in their licences and getting new FM
licences. Operators are moving ageing talk formats from AM to FM to improve
the younger demo performance...

KTAR AM in Phoenix moved to FM, making the AM all sports after moving the
sports format from another, inferior AM whcih will be sold or donated.

WTOP AM in Washington, DC, a 50 kw AM, moved 100% to FM and put an
experimental format on the AM in conjunction with a local newswpaper.

KSL in Salt Lake City began simulcasting in 2006 with an FM to improve
younger demos... despite KSL being a 1A clear channel.

WNLS in Tallahassee moved the n/t format to FM, leaving sports on the AM.

Clear Channel has started FM news talkers in Pittsburg and New Orleans from
scratch. The P'burg one already beats AMer KDKA significantly in 25-54, and
the NO one is dramatically impacting WWL, clear channel 870.

Cox has begun simulcasting is Jacksonville and Dayton AM talkers on FM to
improved the greying demos and lake of sales growth on the AM band.

And the story is just beginning. News talk can't survive long on AM as the
demos are old and unsalable, so more and more will move to FM.


There's not enough room on FM

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On Feb 17, 12:02?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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oups.com...
On Feb 16, 5:39?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

wrote in message


As I said, news/talk/sports on AM is alive-and-well and command higher
ad dollars than FM. You are just one of the naysayers, who shill
IBOC,as the great savior. The FM band is already over-crowded and
there is no big move from AM to FM.

News/talkers on AM get "market rates" that are identical for each
demograsphic target to FMs. A station with 50,000 AQH listeners on AM will
get the same rate as one on FM, not more... as long as you are comparing the
same demos.

AM news talk stations do NOT get higher rates for equivalent listenrship
than FMs do.

I did not say AM statios were turning in their licences and getting new FM
licences. Operators are moving ageing talk formats from AM to FM to improve
the younger demo performance...

KTAR AM in Phoenix moved to FM, making the AM all sports after moving the
sports format from another, inferior AM whcih will be sold or donated.

WTOP AM in Washington, DC, a 50 kw AM, moved 100% to FM and put an
experimental format on the AM in conjunction with a local newswpaper.

KSL in Salt Lake City began simulcasting in 2006 with an FM to improve
younger demos... despite KSL being a 1A clear channel.

WNLS in Tallahassee moved the n/t format to FM, leaving sports on the AM.

Clear Channel has started FM news talkers in Pittsburg and New Orleans from
scratch. The P'burg one already beats AMer KDKA significantly in 25-54, and
the NO one is dramatically impacting WWL, clear channel 870.

Cox has begun simulcasting is Jacksonville and Dayton AM talkers on FM to
improved the greying demos and lake of sales growth on the AM band.

And the story is just beginning. News talk can't survive long on AM as the
demos are old and unsalable, so more and more will move to FM.


"FM Translators for AM Stations?"

"And this might not be the best case. As you may remember, the FCC
already has an open proceeding trying to determine the relative value
of FM translators versus low power FM stations. That proceeding seeks
to determine if low power FM stations should receive a preference over
FM translators. That proceeding also put a freeze on the processing
of all new FM translator applications - a freeze that was supposed to
last 6 months but has now been in place for almost a year and a half.
Since the FM translators that would be authorized by the NAB proposal
could also preclude LPFM stations, as well as be precluded by the
translators still pending from the last FM translator window, the
opportunity to file for translators for AM stations may be technically
precluded in some areas, and may not be able to occur until the LPFM
issues are resolved. And none of that may come quickly."

http://www.broadcastlawblog.com/arch...-stations.html

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