On Feb 15, 11:37�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Feb 15, 2:13?pm, "Guerite?" wrote:

Little do you realize, that news/talk/sports on the clear-channels
command a higher advertising fee, than FM - *too bad, asshole, AM is
alive and well. It is IBOC, that is failing, not analog.

No, that is not true. Advertising is priced based on delivery of listeners,
no matter what the format. It is always a function of a certain dollar
amount for each thousand listeners, and pricing is by delivery.

A news talk station with good ratings gets the same rate as an FM with the
same ratings in the age group an advertiser is buying.

The issue with news talkers is they often bill among the higer range in a
market because they have higher numbers of minutes of spots. While most
larger market FMs sell no more than 10 to 12 minutes of commercials, news
talk often goes to 18 minutes and has more inventory.

The problem with AM news talk stations is that most have around half the
listeners over age 55, where there are nearly no agency ad buys.

In the US, there are 4665 AMs as of last week. Of the ones in rated markets,
only a small percentage, maybe 20% at best, are viable (decent signal and
full market day and night coverage) and these tend to do well. The rest are
either religious, brokered or ethnic.

For example, there is no vable AM in Washington, DC. Phoenix has only 2. So
what you can see is that while a market may have well over a dozen viable
FMs, the number of AMs is tiny.


What a pathetic, fat, worthless old man - you have no social skills,
because your 24/7 interaction with people is spent blogging !

On Feb 14, 9:51 am, Rich wrote:
Well, from what I can hear there are only 3 stations left on the air
transmitting the IBOC signal on AM in the NY/NJ area. 660, 710 and 770. It
would seem to me that it is'nt catching on at all. I have never purchased
an AM HD radio because they are so expensive and non-available for the
most part and I am glad to have waited. FM may be better for IBOC but I
can't tell if they are broadcasting IBOC..it may be a success on FM if
radios get cheap and available.

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Interest in the NYC area is spectacularly low, despite the catchy
sales slogan:

"It's high fidelity, just like FM--only you have to buy a special
radio. And the program content will be basically the same content you
already hear and don't care for on analog AM. And the signal won't
carry as well, and there'll be drop outs. Don't miss out!"

Steve wrote:

On Feb 14, 9:51 am, Rich wrote:
Well, from what I can hear there are only 3 stations left on the air
transmitting the IBOC signal on AM in the NY/NJ area. 660, 710 and 770. It
would seem to me that it is'nt catching on at all. I have never purchased
an AM HD radio because they are so expensive and non-available for the
most part and I am glad to have waited. FM may be better for IBOC but I
can't tell if they are broadcasting IBOC..it may be a success on FM if
radios get cheap and available.

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Interest in the NYC area is spectacularly low, despite the catchy
sales slogan:

"It's high fidelity, just like FM--only you have to buy a special
radio. And the program content will be basically the same content you
already hear and don't care for on analog AM. And the signal won't
carry as well, and there'll be drop outs. Don't miss out!"

Damn, you're really gonna **** Edweenie off with that..

dxAce
Michigan
USA

NYC hands out condoms for Valentines day. www.drudgereport.com

Certainly more usefull than IBOC will ever be.
cuhulin

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:51:05 -0500, Rich
wrote:

Well, from what I can hear there are only 3 stations left on the air
transmitting the IBOC signal on AM in the NY/NJ area. 660, 710 and 770. It
would seem to me that it is'nt catching on at all. I have never purchased
an AM HD radio because they are so expensive and non-available for the
most part and I am glad to have waited. FM may be better for IBOC but I
can't tell if they are broadcasting IBOC..it may be a success on FM if
radios get cheap and available.

http://www.nyradiotv.com/digitalradio.htm

WFAN 660 (Infinity, sports, 50 kw)
WOR 710 (Buckley, talk, 50 kw)
WABC 770 (Disney, talk, 50 kw)
WNYC 820 (non-profit, variety)
WADO 1280 (Univision - news in Spanish)

Also, WCBS 880 (50 kw) and WINS 1010 (50 kw but Canadian clear
channel) (both Infinity all news outlets) say so on their web pages
(wcbs880.com and 1010wins.com)

Googling around, I also see that Multiethnic's WPAT (930, Spanish
music, Patterson, NJ) has an HD license which they use from time to
time.

I don't see any indication that the two other 50 kw AM outlets in NYC
(Disney sports WEPN 1050, Canadian clear channel, and Disney kids
WQEW, 1560) are HD.


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WINS is not HD on AM. WINS news is on FM-HD2 of WWFS (formerly WNEW)
at
102.7-2 .

WCBS is HD on AM, but they are having technical problems with their
exciter- for a few weeks already.

Remember that HD on AM is during the daytime only.

I would -hope- that Ibiquity's website would be the most accurate.

This is the URL to the NYC listings:
http://www.ibiquity.com/hd_radio/hdr...NY#stationlist




On Feb 14, 4:57 pm, Tester wrote:
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:51:05 -0500, Rich
wrote:

Well, from what I can hear there are only 3 stations left on the air
transmitting the IBOC signal on AM in the NY/NJ area. 660, 710 and 770. It
would seem to me that it is'nt catching on at all. I have never purchased
an AM HD radio because they are so expensive and non-available for the
most part and I am glad to have waited. FM may be better for IBOC but I
can't tell if they are broadcasting IBOC..it may be a success on FM if
radios get cheap and available.

http://www.nyradiotv.com/digitalradio.htm

WFAN 660 (Infinity, sports, 50 kw)
WOR 710 (Buckley, talk, 50 kw)
WABC 770 (Disney, talk, 50 kw)
WNYC 820 (non-profit, variety)
WADO 1280 (Univision - news in Spanish)

Also, WCBS 880 (50 kw) and WINS 1010 (50 kw but Canadian clear
channel) (both Infinity all news outlets) say so on their web pages
(wcbs880.com and 1010wins.com)

Googling around, I also see that Multiethnic's WPAT (930, Spanish
music, Patterson, NJ) has an HD license which they use from time to
time.

I don't see any indication that the two other 50 kw AM outlets in NYC
(Disney sports WEPN 1050, Canadian clear channel, and Disney kids
WQEW, 1560) are HD.

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Well, Ibiquity's website is definately not up to date when it comes to
call letters or music formats...

But, I do know those are the current status of WCBS and WINS (I do
NOT work for those companies or CBS Radio - it's not inside info...).

On Feb 14, 4:57 pm, Tester wrote:
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:51:05 -0500, Rich
wrote:

Well, from what I can hear there are only 3 stations left on the air
transmitting the IBOC signal on AM in the NY/NJ area. 660, 710 and 770. It
would seem to me that it is'nt catching on at all. I have never purchased
an AM HD radio because they are so expensive and non-available for the
most part and I am glad to have waited. FM may be better for IBOC but I
can't tell if they are broadcasting IBOC..it may be a success on FM if
radios get cheap and available.

http://www.nyradiotv.com/digitalradio.htm

WFAN 660 (Infinity, sports, 50 kw)
WOR 710 (Buckley, talk, 50 kw)
WABC 770 (Disney, talk, 50 kw)
WNYC 820 (non-profit, variety)
WADO 1280 (Univision - news in Spanish)

Also, WCBS 880 (50 kw) and WINS 1010 (50 kw but Canadian clear
channel) (both Infinity all news outlets) say so on their web pages
(wcbs880.com and 1010wins.com)

Googling around, I also see that Multiethnic's WPAT (930, Spanish
music, Patterson, NJ) has an HD license which they use from time to
time.

I don't see any indication that the two other 50 kw AM outlets in NYC
(Disney sports WEPN 1050, Canadian clear channel, and Disney kids
WQEW, 1560) are HD.

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Most of the above are ' Talk Radio",

- what is the purpose of having them in HD ?

Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better
than analog!
It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the
day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS
AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night.

FM HD doesn't have too much of an audio improvement over analog HD.
The thing with FM HD, is that you can have access to more programs.



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In article . com,
wrote:

Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better
than analog! It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only
HD during the day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends!
That's why WINS AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and
night.

FM HD doesn't have too much of an audio improvement over analog HD.
The thing with FM HD, is that you can have access to more programs.



Most of the above are ' Talk Radio",

- what is the purpose of having them in HD ?- Hide quoted text -


Low bit rate audio does not sound "good." I find analog pleasant to
listen too.

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