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For example, there is no vable AM in Washington, DC. Phoenix has only 2.
So
what you can see is that while a market may have well over a dozen viable
FMs, the number of AMs is tiny.


There are a ton of AM stations in the D.C area, which I never listen
to, anyway.


And not one is vable. Not one covers the entire metro day and night.

I read, that news/talk/sports on the "clears" on AM are
alive-and-well and command higher ad fees than FM.


As I said, this is not true. they get the same ad rates ("fee" is the wrong
word) per listener as any other station. And there are only 24 or 25 of
those stations (Former 1-A clears) in the whole country, out of nearly 5
thousand AM stations.


BTW, there is more-
and-more negativity surrounding HD Radio, and it is all but dead on AM


No, it isn't. Stations in mmajor markets with good signals (about 150
stations in the top 100 markets) either are or will be on with HD. The rest
don't matter as they have no audience and don't cover their markets.

- IBOC shall die, as DAB has in Canada. Analog AM will be around for
many years - too bad !


Analog AM is dying. Fast. HD may not save it, but there is a chance. Without
it, AM is fading and the only really big format news/talk, is starting to
move to FM where it attracts attractive listeners for advertisers that it
does not do on AM.

Consumers are not interested in HD Radio, as
75% of consumers are aware of HD Radio, but interest in HD Radio has
been flat-lined for two years:


Interesting, since the "official" launch was in the second quarter of 2006.


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Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better
than analog!
It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the
day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS
AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night.


But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not matter,
business wise.


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David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as 'Eduardo' wrote:

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Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better
than analog!
It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the
day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS
AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night.


But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not matter,
business wise.


Better to cause interference in the daytime when there are lots of listeners.

HD/IBOC = QRM

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I pick off Limbaugh from WJR now, a couple hundred miles away, instead
of the local outlet, because the HD signal is cleaner audio-wise, and
WJR doesn't add the trace of echo chamber that the local affiliate
thinks makes them sound good.

However, I need an external AM antenna to do it.

The trouble with HD AM is that the ones using it aren't the ones
paying the cost; the adjacent channel stations are. Why the FCC
allows that, I can't say. Probably a payoff from IBOC.

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Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better
than analog!
It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the
day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! That's why WINS
AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night.


But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not matter,
business wise.

Broadcasting in the public interest includes the night.


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On Feb 16, 5:39�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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oups.com...
On Feb 15, 11:37?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

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For example, there is no vable AM in Washington, DC. Phoenix has only 2.
So
what you can see is that while a market may have well over a dozen viable
FMs, the number of AMs is tiny.

There are a ton of AM stations in the D.C area, which I never listen
to, anyway.


And not one is vable. Not one covers the entire metro day and night.

I read, that news/talk/sports on the "clears" on AM are
alive-and-well and command higher ad fees than FM.


As I said, this is not true. they get the same ad rates ("fee" is the wrong
word) per listener as any other station. And there are only 24 or 25 of
those stations (Former 1-A clears) in the whole country, out of nearly 5
thousand AM stations.

BTW, there is more-
and-more negativity surrounding HD Radio, and it is all but dead on AM


No, it isn't. Stations in mmajor markets with good signals (about 150
stations in the top 100 markets) either are or will be on with HD. The rest
don't matter as they have no audience and don't cover their markets.

- IBOC shall die, as DAB has in Canada. *Analog AM will be around for
many years - too bad !


Analog AM is dying. Fast. HD may not save it, but there is a chance. Without
it, AM is fading and the only really big format news/talk, is starting to
move to FM where it attracts attractive listeners for advertisers that it
does not do on AM.

Consumers are not interested in HD Radio, as
75% of consumers are aware of HD Radio, but interest in HD Radio has
been flat-lined for two years:


Interesting, since the "official" launch was in the second quarter of 2006.


Just, like the big launch of 2006 - the Cartel is using the same
failed strategies !

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On Feb 16, 2:05�am, wrote:
Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better
than analog!
It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the
day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! *That's why WINS
AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night.

FM HD doesn't have too much of an audio improvement over analog HD.
The thing with FM HD, is that you can have access to more programs.





Most of the above are ' Talk Radio",


- what is the purpose of having them in HD ?- Hide quoted text -


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The broadcast bands are already over-crowed with stations - who needs
more low-bitrate HD channels, that broadcast the same repetitive
programming, if one can even receive the lousy HD channels.

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On Feb 16, 5:39�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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oups.com...
On Feb 15, 11:37?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

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For example, there is no vable AM in Washington, DC. Phoenix has only 2.
So
what you can see is that while a market may have well over a dozen viable
FMs, the number of AMs is tiny.

There are a ton of AM stations in the D.C area, which I never listen
to, anyway.


And not one is vable. Not one covers the entire metro day and night.

I read, that news/talk/sports on the "clears" on AM are
alive-and-well and command higher ad fees than FM.


As I said, this is not true. they get the same ad rates ("fee" is the wrong
word) per listener as any other station. And there are only 24 or 25 of
those stations (Former 1-A clears) in the whole country, out of nearly 5
thousand AM stations.

BTW, there is more-
and-more negativity surrounding HD Radio, and it is all but dead on AM


No, it isn't. Stations in mmajor markets with good signals (about 150
stations in the top 100 markets) either are or will be on with HD. The rest
don't matter as they have no audience and don't cover their markets.

- IBOC shall die, as DAB has in Canada. *Analog AM will be around for
many years - too bad !


Analog AM is dying. Fast. HD may not save it, but there is a chance. Without
it, AM is fading and the only really big format news/talk, is starting to
move to FM where it attracts attractive listeners for advertisers that it
does not do on AM.

Consumers are not interested in HD Radio, as
75% of consumers are aware of HD Radio, but interest in HD Radio has
been flat-lined for two years:


Interesting, since the "official" launch was in the second quarter of 2006.


As I said, news/talk/sports on AM is alive-and-well and command higher
ad dollars than FM. You are just one of the naysayers, who shill
IBOC,as the great savior. The FM band is already over-crowded and
there is no big move from AM to FM.

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On Feb 16, 5:39�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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ups.com...

Have you ever listened to AM (MW) HD? The voices sound MUCH better
than analog!
It's actually pleasant to listen to. But, they are only HD during the
day, so they're almost useless, except on weekends! *That's why WINS
AM is on FM-HD2, so that it can be on all day and night.


But there is so little AM listening at night that it really does not matter,
business wise.


If that is true, then why is news/talk/.sport so popular at night.

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