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tom k in L.A. February 19th 07 06:57 AM

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?
 
why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now? these
stations are cheap to relay-- maybe we should suggest some
international broadcasters take up the time instead of brimstone and
damnation types.


Invader3K February 19th 07 02:18 PM

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?
 
On Feb 19, 12:57 am, "tom k in L.A." wrote:
why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now? these
stations are cheap to relay-- maybe we should suggest some
international broadcasters take up the time instead of brimstone and
damnation types.



I agree. People have the right to pay for and say what they want on
the air, but at the same time, I wonder if the FCC should investigate
if it's really in the public's best interest and good to have dozens
of religious broadcasts on the shortwave bands all at the same time,
for the majority of the day.


Joe Analssandrini February 19th 07 03:59 PM

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?
 
On Feb 19, 1:57 am, "tom k in L.A." wrote:
why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now? these
stations are cheap to relay-- maybe we should suggest some
international broadcasters take up the time instead of brimstone and
damnation types.


Dear Tom,

There are suckers born every minute, as P.T.said. As long as people
continue to send these characters money (as they encourage the belief
that, if one sends them money "to allow their message of 'good news'
to be sent 'to all the world,'" the senders will "go to heaven"),
these people will stay on the air and, in fact, will increase the
number and power of their transmissions. It's a VERY profitable
industry, making money off the least sophisticated people who are
grasping at straws. All religions and religious organizations solicit
money; they have no other way of continuing their existence. Your
local legitimate groups and organizations fulfill a seemingly basic
need in humanity and, therefore, return much to people in exchange for
their money. The so-called "religious" broadcasters do not. They may
send a contributor some worthless trinkets but mostly, if one
contributes, they then ask for more and more and more money. ("Buy
this book, buy that book, buy this item, buy that item, and send me
more money money money!") This allows them to increase their
broadcasts (think about it - it's a pretty pitiful "religion" that
needs constant ADVERTISING to keep itself going!) and, not
incidentally, to allow these broadcasters to have a VERY nice
lifestyle.

What's the answer? Do not listen to these broadcasts and certainly do
not send them even one cent! Your posting here, though "small
potatoes" in comparison to the might of these organizations, is a very
good step. We have to let at least the readers here know of these
fraudulent and inherently evil broadcast organizations.

Thank you for your post. Obviously, I agree with you one hundred
percent.

Joe


[email protected] February 19th 07 04:08 PM

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?
 
I guess I missed my calling then,I should have been a preacher.
cuhulin


Ron Baker, Pluralitas! February 19th 07 05:12 PM

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?
 

"tom k in L.A." wrote in message
ups.com...
why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now? these
stations are cheap to relay-- maybe we should suggest some
international broadcasters take up the time instead of brimstone and
damnation types.


I believe I read somewhere that it is a consequence of our
faith-based administration. Most countries don't grant
shortwave broadcasting licenses to private organizations.
Most shortwave broadcasters are government controlled
international P.R./propaganda operations.
The Bush administration open up licensing in the shortwave
bands to private organizations in the US. Thus the crowd of
jammering yahoos eminating from this "nation, under God".

--
rb



dxAce February 19th 07 05:15 PM

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?
 


"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote:

"tom k in L.A." wrote in message
ups.com...
why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now? these
stations are cheap to relay-- maybe we should suggest some
international broadcasters take up the time instead of brimstone and
damnation types.


I believe I read somewhere that it is a consequence of our
faith-based administration. Most countries don't grant
shortwave broadcasting licenses to private organizations.
Most shortwave broadcasters are government controlled
international P.R./propaganda operations.
The Bush administration open up licensing in the shortwave
bands to private organizations in the US.


Uhh... this occured before the Bush administration.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Jake Brodsky February 19th 07 05:34 PM

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?
 
tom k in L.A. wrote:
why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now? these
stations are cheap to relay-- maybe we should suggest some
international broadcasters take up the time instead of brimstone and
damnation types.


I don't know why Religious Freaks are the ones with the most number of
SW radio programming. Perhaps the hucksters of other types haven't
discovered the magic of SW?

In any case, they've been a fact of life on SW for many decades. Most
of the religious broadcasts of old were more respectable. I have
pleasant memories of HCJB's programs. Many were well thought out and
very interesting, even if I didn't agree with them.

In fact, not long after WRNO made its debut on SW (remember that Rock of
the World format?) WYFR happened. And in the scheme of SW broadcasters,
WYFR is tame. After that, the real nutcases took to the air, and it's
never been the same since.

I wish others would find a way to maintain a business in SW
broadcasting. One would think a nationwide science program of some sort
would be an easy sell. But nobody's doing it. I guess advertisers
don't know it exists because "nobody is there", and nobody does it
because advertisers don't think there is a market.

Jake Brodsky

RHF February 19th 07 05:48 PM

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?
 
On Feb 19, 6:18 am, "Invader3K" wrote:
On Feb 19, 12:57 am, "tom k in L.A." wrote:

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now? these
stations are cheap to relay-- maybe we should suggest some
international broadcasters take up the time instead of brimstone and
damnation types.


I agree. People have the right to pay for and say what they want on
the air, but at the same time, I wonder if the FCC should investigate
if it's really in the public's best interest and good to have dozens
of religious broadcasts on the shortwave bands all at the same time,
for the majority of the day.


Limits Restrictions Out-Lawing : Religion on Shortwave;
Them AM/FM Radio and TV plus the Internet; and don't
forget Books !

Next we could also 'limit' {Restrict-Out-Law} the Number
of Churches in each Village, Town and City.

And then we could 'limit' {Restrict-Out-Law} the Number
of Persons-of-Faith with-in our communities.

i believe in america land-of-the-free and
our freedoms are with-out-limits - be free ! ~ RHF

[email protected] February 20th 07 12:16 AM

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?
 
On Feb 19, 4:57�am, "tom k in L.A." wrote:
why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now? *these
stations are cheap to relay-- maybe we should suggest some
international broadcasters take up the time instead of brimstone and
damnation types.


That's why, I used to listen to SW, but have now moved to nighttime AM
- but, David Eduardo, the IBOC shill, insist\s that AM is dead.


Jim Haynes February 20th 07 04:24 PM

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?
 
In article ,
Jake Brodsky wrote:

I don't know why Religious Freaks are the ones with the most number of
SW radio programming. Perhaps the hucksters of other types haven't
discovered the magic of SW?

And also of non-commercial FM, we might add.

Here's what I think is the reason. Some branches of Christianity put
pressure on their members to do missionary work. Now really doing
missionary work is hard; you have to meet people one-on-one and persuade
them to listen to your message. So it's a lot easier to just donate
money to people who are doing missionary work, and consider that your
obligation is met. And the broadcasters have become expert at convincing
their donors that the world is full of people who are just dying to hear
the Christian message, in English yet, on shortwave radio.
--

jhhaynes at earthlink dot net


JoanD'arcRoast February 21st 07 05:59 AM

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?
 
In article .com, RHF
wrote:

On Feb 19, 6:18 am, "Invader3K" wrote:
On Feb 19, 12:57 am, "tom k in L.A." wrote:

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now? these
stations are cheap to relay-- maybe we should suggest some
international broadcasters take up the time instead of brimstone and
damnation types.


I agree. People have the right to pay for and say what they want on
the air, but at the same time, I wonder if the FCC should investigate
if it's really in the public's best interest and good to have dozens
of religious broadcasts on the shortwave bands all at the same time,
for the majority of the day.


Limits Restrictions Out-Lawing : Religion on Shortwave;
Them AM/FM Radio and TV plus the Internet; and don't
forget Books !

Next we could also 'limit' {Restrict-Out-Law} the Number
of Churches in each Village, Town and City.

And then we could 'limit' {Restrict-Out-Law} the Number
of Persons-of-Faith with-in our communities.

i believe in america land-of-the-free and
our freedoms are with-out-limits - be free ! ~ RHF
.
.
. .

These broadcasts have nothing to do with freedom of religion.
They are scam artists milking the tax-free status of "churches".
Tax the churches and these confidence racketeers would disappear.

-j

[email protected] February 21st 07 03:24 PM

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?
 
Yesterday afternoon,the Wal Mart store food departmental was out of my
favorite Beer.(that cheap Southpaw Beer,but it's brewed by Millers,once
you get used to it,it isn't so bad) So,on my way home from the food
store,I stopped off at the liquor store and I bought a bottle of
Whiskey.(because I like to spike each and every one of my Beers.That
divorced woman next door to me,she caught on real quick) Then I stopped
off at the Exxon gas station/convenience place at the top of the hill
from me for two six packs of Southpaw Beer.
My friennnnds call me Two Gunnnnn,,,,,,,
cuhulin


Will February 21st 07 07:26 PM

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?
 
On Feb 19, 4:57?am, "tom k in L.A."
why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?


This is really becoming a sad situation. It's NOT that
the religious types are broadcasting; as others have said,
everybody has a right to say their piece, even if it is
nonsense or a scam huckstering. The problem is that these
types used to be immersed in a good number of competing
signals of all sorts of political views from a wide range
of different countries or entertainment and information
from well-run broadcasting entities. Now just about all
these other signals have disappeared.

I still listen to SW every day. But the choices I grew
up enjoying are mostly gone. If it wasn't for Radio
Netherlands, R. Australia, CRI, and Taiwan, there'd
be practically nothing. We can get a few hours of BBC
from their African and other services, if propagation
allows, but lately I've been trying to scan the bands
and get only the religious programs in English. I
suspect that most of the other-language signals I hear
are also religious.

I have been wanting to give a good SW radio to a friend
of mine who has expressed an interest in SW. But I now
hesitate because I cannot tell him much about what he
might enjoy hearing.

Personally, I don't listen much during "prime evening
hours" here in the US; there's usually enough on TV
that those times are eaten up (though sometimes I'll
have RN on at the same time as early-evening TV). I
listen in the early morning and late night. Are
there still a wide-enough range of international
broadcasters on in the 0000-0400 UT timeframe that
a decent SW portable on the whip alone will get
enjoyable signals with worthwhile listening? My friend
doesn't watch TV, so if he listens then, would he get
enough out of the radio to make it interesting?
However, he spends his time on other activities, and
probably won't sit around and listen for hours.

That latter also mitigates against trying to get
new listeners into SW. Everybody already has more than
enough to fill their time.

73, Will


[email protected] February 21st 07 07:30 PM

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?
 
Give him,or loan,a Shortwave Radio to your friend.
cuhulin


[email protected] February 21st 07 07:55 PM

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?
 
Otay Buckwheat,here ya go. www.devilfinder.com Kid's Songs Midis
and Lyrics Niehs Dixie
cuhulin


saki February 21st 07 08:14 PM

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?
 
"Will" wrote in news:1172085980.083941.51300
@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:

I still listen to SW every day. But the choices I grew
up enjoying are mostly gone. If it wasn't for Radio
Netherlands, R. Australia, CRI, and Taiwan, there'd
be practically nothing. We can get a few hours of BBC
from their African and other services, if propagation
allows, but lately I've been trying to scan the bands
and get only the religious programs in English. I
suspect that most of the other-language signals I hear
are also religious.


I thought the quiet bands were due to the low sunspot cycle, but I just
changed antennas and found there's still a ton of stuff to hear. The
variety surprised me.

For the first time in months I can hear R. Sweden, R. Portugal, RNZI, R.
Veritas, AIR...nothing super rare yet but lots more than just the main
powerhouses.

I miss some of my old favorites like R. Denmark and Tahiti but there's
enough to keep me busy for now.

----


dxAce February 21st 07 08:19 PM

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?
 


saki wrote:

"Will" wrote in news:1172085980.083941.51300
@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:

I still listen to SW every day. But the choices I grew
up enjoying are mostly gone. If it wasn't for Radio
Netherlands, R. Australia, CRI, and Taiwan, there'd
be practically nothing. We can get a few hours of BBC
from their African and other services, if propagation
allows, but lately I've been trying to scan the bands
and get only the religious programs in English. I
suspect that most of the other-language signals I hear
are also religious.


I thought the quiet bands were due to the low sunspot cycle, but I just
changed antennas and found there's still a ton of stuff to hear. The
variety surprised me.

For the first time in months I can hear R. Sweden, R. Portugal, RNZI, R.
Veritas, AIR...nothing super rare yet but lots more than just the main
powerhouses.

I miss some of my old favorites like R. Denmark and Tahiti but there's
enough to keep me busy for now.


Tahiti's been gone for quite a while now, hasn't it?

OK, so I'm being lazy today and don't want to look it up!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



saki February 21st 07 08:36 PM

why are there nothing but religious freaks on right now?
 
dxAce wrote in
:

saki wrote:
I miss some of my old favorites like R. Denmark and Tahiti but there's
enough to keep me busy for now.


Tahiti's been gone for quite a while now, hasn't it?

OK, so I'm being lazy today and don't want to look it up!


Yeah, a long time, in the early nineties I suspect. I was just being
nostalgic. I saw it in my old log book and started thinking about it.

I use the interval signal of R. Denmark as my cell phone ringtone.

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