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On Feb 24, 9:24 pm, m II wrote:
Cato wrote: On Feb 24, 8:14 pm, m II wrote: Cato wrote: Well, this "dumbass Canuck" is damn glad that Canada is next to the United States. I can easily guess how different things would have been had Canada existed on the border of Russia, or China. You may not have noticed, but we ARE on the border of Russia. Can you still easily guess just how things would have been? Exactly as they are now. mike Both countries claim ownership of the globe up to the pole. I don't believe we were discussing a particular TYPE of border. In the general scheme of things people will fight over an area the size of an ice cube if it's in on a disputed border area. A neighbour is still a neighbour, whether they're across the alley or beside you. mike- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hello Mike: And then sometime in the future European countries and North American countries might try to claim the Atlantic Ocean all the way to the Mid- Atlantic Ridge. So then we would share borders with Ireland and Portugal etc. Countries can make any claims that they want. Doesn't mean that their claims are valid. That can only be detemined by negotiation in an international setting. The fact remains, Russia is on the other side of the Arctic Ocean. Canada does not share a border with Russia. Territorial water extend to 12 miles from mean low water mark next to land. Exclusive Economic Zone can extend to 200 miles. Anything beyond that is International Waters. Especially beyond the continental shelf. This is determined by international global agreements. The UN Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf in accordance with the United Nations Convention of the Law of the Sea has not, to this point ruled in favour of anyones claims to the area of the North Pole beyond anyone's continental shelf. The Russians tried to make a claim beyond their continental shelf for a huge area that includes the North Pole itself, but they have received no answer beyond a statement that recommends additional research into the subject. Canada claims the waters around and between their islands in the Arctic. In any case, anyone who thinks that Canada shares a border with Russia in any normal understanding of the term "Border" is badly mistaken. Canada shares a border with Russia about as much as Canada shares a border with Scotland. Let's not try and argue about anyone's supposed claim to the Arctic Ocean up to the North Pole. At this point in history no one has a valid legal claim to the North Pole that would be accepted by the international community. I suppose that there is a possibility that the situation could change in the future. But then which way would the decision go? In whose favour? No one knows at this point. Let's go back to what I was trying to say... If Canada shared a border with China or Russia (the former Soviet Union), for the past one hindred years, (a "Land Border" for those who have difficulty understanding), things would have been much different for Canada. Just look at what any country that borders (Land Border), on Russia has gone through in the last one hundred years. Damn glad we share our border with the U.S. Back to you Mike..... |
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