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WSCR 670 Chicago switched on IBOC at 5:34 am this morning, covering
WFAN 660 NYC lsb listening in Central Ohio. What's going on?

Is there nighttime IBOC now?
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WSCR 670 Chicago switched on IBOC at 5:34 am this morning, covering
WFAN 660 NYC lsb listening in Central Ohio. What's going on?

Is there nighttime IBOC now?
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No, no night HD, but stations, including daytimers, can conduct testing in
the overnight hours. So it could be either a test or a mistake.


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WSCR 670 Chicago switched on IBOC at 5:34 am this morning, covering
WFAN 660 NYC lsb listening in Central Ohio. What's going on?


Is there nighttime IBOC now?
--


No, no night HD, but stations, including daytimers, can conduct testing in
the overnight hours. So it could be either a test or a mistake.


I think the latter, and not just in this instance, but in general. AM
IBOC is for the birds. Nothing personal (unlike some others here),
but you gotta get off this AM-IBOC kick. It will be the ruination of
what still is a great way to broadcast.

Bruce Jensen

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WSCR 670 Chicago switched on IBOC at 5:34 am this morning, covering
WFAN 660 NYC lsb listening in Central Ohio. What's going on?

Is there nighttime IBOC now?
--


No, no night HD, but stations, including daytimers, can conduct testing in
the overnight hours. So it could be either a test or a mistake.


Yes, IBOC is a mistake, no doubt about it.

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On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:35:31 -0800, Radiola wrote:
What is IBOC?


"In Band On Channel", aka "HD Radio". A system for transmitting a digital
radio signal "on the same frequency" as the analog signal.

Actually, the digital signal is transmitted in the adjacent channels - for
AM, two channels each side of the analog; for FM, one channel each side.

For example, in WSCR's case:
- Analog: 665-675KHz
- Lower Digital: 655.3-665.1KHz
- Upper Digital: 674.9-684.7KHz

It's not currently authorized for regular nighttime use on AM stations,
because of severe interference to skywave reception. Here in the States
they're still working on finding a way to allow nighttime use. (possibly
including simply deciding skywave reception is obsolete and accepting the
interference) It's looking like the Canadians have ruled out nighttime AM
IBOC altogether.



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What is IBOC?


Digital AM & FM radio broadcasting. - http://www.hdradio.com

Digital IBOC/HD FM stations are almost CD quality while digital IBOC/HD AM
stations are in stereo with FM quality.
Once you get it you'll never go back to analog.



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What is IBOC?


Digital AM & FM radio broadcasting. -http://www.hdradio.com

Digital IBOC/HD FM stations are almost CD quality while digital IBOC/HD AM
stations are in stereo with FM quality.
Once you get it you'll never go back to analog.


More bull**** from another DE IBOC hustler/shill !

Hustle this:

"In-Stat: Digital Radio Set to Take Off"

"In 2006, 73 percent of respondents to an In-Stat U.S. consumer survey
were aware of HD Radio on some level."

http://beradio.com/eyeoniboc/instat-digital-radio-set/

"Sirius, XM, and HD: Consumer interest reality check" (Alexaholic)

"While interest in satellite radio is diminishing, interest in HD
shows no signs of a pulse."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/02/sirius_....html#comments

This just confirms, the lack of interest for HD Radio, on Google
Trends:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22hd... =all&date=all

"Rethinking AM's Future"

"Only 175 or so AM stations have even licensed AM-HD. For a number of
reasons, quite a few have tried it and taken it off the air, or so the
anecdotal evidence suggests. Ibiquity no longer reports in its public
summaries whether a station is on the air. Making AM-HD work well as a
long-term investment is seen as an expensive and risky challenge for
most stations and their owners. With the bulk of successful AMs airing
news, talk and sports, the improved fidelity advantage of HD and
stereo seem only marginally attractive. There is the significant
downside of potential new interference to some of their own AM analog
listeners as well as listeners of adjacent-channel stations. And of
course we still have no nighttime authority for AM-HD."

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.557.html

Existing RDS has the same texting functions, as HD/IBOC. For now, HD
Radio/IBOC is dead.

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"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"Ron Hardin" wrote in message
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WSCR 670 Chicago switched on IBOC at 5:34 am this morning, covering
WFAN 660 NYC lsb listening in Central Ohio. What's going on?

Is there nighttime IBOC now?
--


No, no night HD, but stations, including daytimers, can conduct testing
in
the overnight hours. So it could be either a test or a mistake.


Yes, IBOC is a mistake, no doubt about it.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Mistake my ass! It's the answer to the Beaner-Blaster AM stations taking
over the AM band. AM IBOC sounds a LOT better than analog AM ever has or
will.
I for one am sick and tired of hearing "OOOMPA" music and dreaded mariachi
crap at stoplights, emanating from a beat up Ford aerostar van....
The Beaners wont buy HD radios. IBOC can turn a burrito-blaster back into a
good AM station and a moneymaker in the longrun.

Not only is IBOC making headway, but so is DRM.....getting big and working
well in Europe.



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Porgy Tirebiter wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Ron Hardin" wrote in message
...
WSCR 670 Chicago switched on IBOC at 5:34 am this morning, covering
WFAN 660 NYC lsb listening in Central Ohio. What's going on?

Is there nighttime IBOC now?
--

No, no night HD, but stations, including daytimers, can conduct testing
in
the overnight hours. So it could be either a test or a mistake.


Yes, IBOC is a mistake, no doubt about it.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


Mistake my ass! It's the answer to the Beaner-Blaster AM stations taking
over the AM band. AM IBOC sounds a LOT better than analog AM ever has or
will.
I for one am sick and tired of hearing "OOOMPA" music and dreaded mariachi
crap at stoplights, emanating from a beat up Ford aerostar van....
The Beaners wont buy HD radios. IBOC can turn a burrito-blaster back into a
good AM station and a moneymaker in the longrun.

Not only is IBOC making headway, but so is DRM.....getting big and working
well in Europe.


They both suck, and are an annoying source of QRM.

Next time we come over the pond once again to save your sorry ass's we'll have
to dismantle that stuff.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


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