On Mar 5, 7:34�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Guerite©" wrote in message

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LOL ! * :-)

"The decision has no impact on news and talk stations who stream."

Besides, the laugh is on you since this will put the nail in analog
radio's
coffin.

Today:

HD Radio's latest score - Wal-Mart, in nearly 2000 stores.
Wal-Mart will begin by stocking the JVC HD-W10 Mobile receiver for about
$190 - and you can expect to hear spots promoting the new tie-in on HD Radio
Alliance member stations. Alliance chief Peter Ferrara says "Wal-Mart brings
HD Radio to an incredible new level of reach and power."

No one is buying HD radios:

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Custo...Review.do#tabs

WOW - 500 consumer votes in 5 months ! LOL ! BAWAAAAAAHA !

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Guerite©" wrote in message
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LOL ! :-)

"The decision has no impact on news and talk stations who stream."

Besides, the laugh is on you since this will put the nail in analog
radio's
coffin.



Today:

HD Radio's latest score - Wal-Mart, in nearly 2000 stores.
Wal-Mart will begin by stocking the JVC HD-W10 Mobile receiver for about
$190 - and you can expect to hear spots promoting the new tie-in on HD Radio
Alliance member stations. Alliance chief Peter Ferrara says "Wal-Mart brings
HD Radio to an incredible new level of reach and power."

So Wall mart is gonna change AM radio. Give me a break.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Mar 5, 5:35�pm, "Guerite�" wrote:
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How does this affect terrestrial broadcasters who stream?

The principles are exactly *the same, but at the individual radio station
level, the dollar amounts are of course are smaller. Clear Channel's total
corporate obligation for November 2006 based on comScore Arbitron ratings
and assuming 13 songs per hour, *would be about $500,000... but if that's
for streaming, let's say, 500 stations, it would only be a royalty
obligation of about $1,000 per station per month in 2006. Are those stations
selling enough online spots and website banners and sponsorships to make
that affordable? *I'm not sure. *(The decision has no impact on news and
talk stations who stream.)

Is this the end of Internet radio?

Although this is undeniably a huge victory for the legal departments of
record labels (or at least for the lawyers at their industry trade
association, the RIAA), I doubt that the heads of the record labels and
their marketing executives actually want to see Internet radio driven out of
business. (This may be a case of "Be careful what you wish for, you may get
it.")

http://www.kurthanson.com/archive/ne...07/index.shtml
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Is this the end of HD radio?

LOL - Hardly. *Maybe the second on air HD-"2" stream will have to be turned
off since the small local radio operator would essentially have to pay
royalties for two radio stations. *On the other hand this extra available
bandwidth of a former HD-"2" stream can then be used for full CD like HD
fidelity. *Stations broadcasting HD-2 signals don't sound as good as
stations utilizing the full bandwidth on a single "HD-1" stream.

In any case, HD sounds far better than any analog signal. *HD radio stations
will abandon analog and redirect the full station power of their amplifiers
towards the HD digital stream.

HD's channels are low-bitrate streams of the same repetitive
programming, causing adjacent-channel interference and with only 60%
the coverage of analog.

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HD's channels are low-bitrate streams

The station has a certain digital HD bandwidth that they can utilize as they
wish. They can allocate the full HD bandwidth to a single channel for the
best sound. On FM that would result in a CD quality sound. Or they can divy
up the bandwidth into 2 or 3 channels for lesser quality sound in each
channel.

of the same repetitive programming

If a station chooses to transmit two (2) HD channels, and many do, the
second HD channel's programming (HD2) is unique while the first HD channel
is the superioir sounding digital version of the analog signal broadcast.

causing adjacent-channel interference

Digital is digital - there is no static, noise, interference or fading
whatsoever on HD radio.

and with only 60% the coverage of analog.

Using 1/100th the power of the equivelent analog's signal carrier. Thus a
power savings to the station.

"Guerite©" wrote in message
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and with only 60% the coverage of analog.

Using 1/100th the power of the equivelent analog's signal carrier. Thus a
power savings to the station.


And, as discussed, on FM the "used" coverage area is the 64 dbu curve. Over
80% of listening is in the 70 dbu, and the rest in the 64 to 69 dbu contour.

The HD signal at least matches the 64 dbu useful and used contour. On AM,
the HD signal is often listenable beyond the "used and useful" contour of
the analog signal.

"David Eduardo" wrote

On AM,
the HD signal is often listenable beyond the "used and useful" contour of
the analog signal.


My personal best HD DX catch on AM is about 1000 miles.
It is incredible to hear a digital AM DX signal locked in on a HD receiver.
Instant ID and far better reception than the analog signal.

On Mar 5, 7:36�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Guerite©" wrote in message

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and with only 60% the coverage of analog.

Using 1/100th the power of the equivelent analog's signal carrier. *Thus a
power savings to the station.

And, as discussed, on FM the "used" coverage area is the 64 dbu curve. Over
80% of listening is in the 70 dbu, and the rest in the 64 to 69 dbu contour.

The HD signal at least matches the 64 dbu useful and used contour. On AM,
the HD signal is often listenable beyond the "used and useful" contour of
the analog signal.

HD/IBOC causes adjacent-channel interference and has only 60% the
coverage of analog.

On Mar 5, 7:23�pm, "Guerite�" wrote:
wrote

HD's channels are low-bitrate streams

The station has a certain digital HD bandwidth that they can utilize as they
wish. *They can allocate the full HD bandwidth to a single channel for the
best sound. On FM that would result in a CD quality sound. Or they can divy
up the bandwidth into 2 or 3 channels for lesser quality sound in each
channel.

of the same repetitive programming

If a station chooses to transmit two (2) HD channels, and many do, the
second HD channel's programming (HD2) is unique while the first HD channel
is the superioir sounding digital version of the analog signal broadcast.

causing adjacent-channel interference

Digital is digital - there is no static, noise, interference or fading
whatsoever on HD radio.

and with only 60% the coverage of analog.

Using 1/100th the power of the equivelent analog's signal carrier. *Thus a
power savings to the station.

HD/IBOC requires much more power than alaog broadcasting - you lose !

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On Mar 5, 7:23?pm, "Guerite?" wrote:
wrote

HD's channels are low-bitrate streams

The station has a certain digital HD bandwidth that they can utilize as
they
wish. They can allocate the full HD bandwidth to a single channel for the
best sound. On FM that would result in a CD quality sound. Or they can
divy
up the bandwidth into 2 or 3 channels for lesser quality sound in each
channel.

of the same repetitive programming

If a station chooses to transmit two (2) HD channels, and many do, the
second HD channel's programming (HD2) is unique while the first HD channel
is the superioir sounding digital version of the analog signal broadcast.

causing adjacent-channel interference

Digital is digital - there is no static, noise, interference or fading
whatsoever on HD radio.

and with only 60% the coverage of analog.

Using 1/100th the power of the equivelent analog's signal carrier. Thus a
power savings to the station.

HD/IBOC requires much more power than alaog broadcasting - you lose !

Nope, it is a fraction of the power. A 50 kw AM uses a 500 watt HD signal on
the same frequency

"Guerite©" wrote in message
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In any case, HD sounds far better than any analog signal. HD radio
stations
will abandon analog and redirect the full station power of their
amplifiers
towards the HD digital stream.


Indeed. I just checked at www.hdradio.com. I had no idea there were so
many HD FM stations in my city (6). All have a 2nd channel also, so this
makes 6 new stations in my city!

I'll certainly be getting a HD radio this year, and I don't understand all
the opposition to it in this group. Is it just a case of old
farts/curmudgeons opposing something new? I *really* don't understand the
idea of clinging to what is essentially 100 year old technology - analog
radio. Are some of you lamenting the death of incandescent light bulbs
also?

HD radio will happen much like HD TV did. Prices will drop until Critical
Mass is reached, then it will take over. Once you see HD TV, you realize
how bad the old system was.

Mike