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Any Internet Radio station, that is acting as a non-interactive
station, has to pay royalties, and this includes the HD channels - the
HD channels are addressed here. *Internet Radio stations will have to
pay a royalty for every HD song that is streamed PER LISTENER, and
there is no revenue coming in for the HD channels. *Now, with HD
radios not selling, this just gives new stations more reason not to
sign up for HD Radio !

HD is not broadcast via the internet.

HD rates are separate, and DRM rates apply for digital radio broadcast, not
Internet streams.


"Free HD Radio streaming online"

http://digg.com/music/Free_HD_Radio_streaming_online

Another ****ing lie ! :-)

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On Mar 5, 6:11?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their
listeners will abandon them.


A low power, 9mm HD single chip decoder that uses 10% of the power of the
current chipsets headlines Radio World this week. Using this chip,
portables
are now possible with long battery life and the price point comes way
down
due to component materials. This is the evolutionary development we were
waiting for that will make receivers better and cheaper.


HD Radios will never sell.


Ah, Wal-Mart put the first HD radio on sale this week. The momentum is
building, and will continue over the next several years.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


"Exploding the momentum myth of HD radio"

http://www.hear2.com/2005/11/exploding_the_m.html

:-)

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AM is alive-and-well, especially news/talk/sports:


No, it's not. And news/talk is moving to FM and proving that the format is
still viable on that band, while it is moving out of the sales demos on AM
(as the recent Tribune Broadcasting problems show clearly).


AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well:

http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/50kwam.html

When they all go dark, I will let you know, but you will be out of a
job !

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They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their
listeners will abandon them.


They already are abandoning analog radio - to DIGITAL delivery systems

such
as the internet, XM & Sirius.


Every young person I know has an MP3 player/iPod which is used to listen

to
songs, in DIGITAL format, downloaded for free from the internet. They DO
NOT listen to ANALOG AM or FM radio stations like the youth of your
generation used to do.


The only means open for analog FM radio stations have to compete is to

offer
CD quality for FREE = HD! The only means open for analog AM radio's
survival is HD!


Once you have experienced HD you will never go back to analog.
Slight problem - consumers are not interested in HD Radio.


Because consumers are ignorant and do not understand ANALog *OR HD radio.
They do not understand what is HD radio.http://www.HDRadio.com
All they know is that their iPods and MP3 players give them what they want -
FREE Digital quality music.

YOU HAVE TO DELIVER WHAT THE CONSUMER WANTS and it isn't analog.- Hide quoted text -

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"In-Stat: Digital Radio Set to Take Off"

"In 2006, 73 percent of respondents to an In-Stat U.S. consumer survey
were aware of HD Radio on some level"

http://beradio.com/eyeoniboc/instat-digital-radio-set/

Consumers know about HD Radio, but are not interested - you lose !

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On Mar 5, 7:09�pm, "Guerite�" wrote:
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They'd better get some HD listeners before they do that, elsewise their
listeners will abandon them.


They already are abandoning analog radio - to DIGITAL delivery systems

such
as the internet, XM & Sirius.


Every young person I know has an MP3 player/iPod which is used to listen

to
songs, in DIGITAL format, downloaded for free from the internet. They DO
NOT listen to ANALOG AM or FM radio stations like the youth of your
generation used to do.


The only means open for analog FM radio stations have to compete is to

offer
CD quality for FREE = HD! The only means open for analog AM radio's
survival is HD!


Once you have experienced HD you will never go back to analog.
Slight problem - consumers are not interested in HD Radio.


Because consumers are ignorant and do not understand ANALog *OR HD radio.
They do not understand what is HD radio.http://www.HDRadio.com
All they know is that their iPods and MP3 players give them what they want -
FREE Digital quality music.

YOU HAVE TO DELIVER WHAT THE CONSUMER WANTS and it isn't analog.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


"In-Stat: Digital Radio Set to Take Off"

"In 2006, 73 percent of respondents to an In-Stat U.S. consumer survey
were aware of HD Radio on some level"

http://beradio.com/eyeoniboc/instat-digital-radio-set/

Consumers know about HD Radio, but are not interested - you lose !



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On Mar 5, 7:23�pm, "Guerite�" wrote:
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HD's channels are low-bitrate streams


The station has a certain digital HD bandwidth that they can utilize as they
wish. *They can allocate the full HD bandwidth to a single channel for the
best sound. On FM that would result in a CD quality sound. Or they can divy
up the bandwidth into 2 or 3 channels for lesser quality sound in each
channel.

of the same repetitive programming


If a station chooses to transmit two (2) HD channels, and many do, the
second HD channel's programming (HD2) is unique while the first HD channel
is the superioir sounding digital version of the analog signal broadcast.

causing adjacent-channel interference


Digital is digital - there is no static, noise, interference or fading
whatsoever on HD radio.

and with only 60% the coverage of analog.


Using 1/100th the power of the equivelent analog's signal carrier. *Thus a
power savings to the station.


HD/IBOC requires much more power than alaog broadcasting - you lose !

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LOL ! * :-)


"The decision has no impact on news and talk stations who stream."


Besides, the laugh is on you since this will put the nail in analog
radio's
coffin.


Today:

HD Radio's latest score - Wal-Mart, in nearly 2000 stores.
Wal-Mart will begin by stocking the JVC HD-W10 Mobile receiver for about
$190 - and you can expect to hear spots promoting the new tie-in on HD Radio
Alliance member stations. Alliance chief Peter Ferrara says "Wal-Mart brings
HD Radio to an incredible new level of reach and power."


No one is buying HD radios:

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Custo...Review.do#tabs

WOW - 500 consumer votes in 5 months ! LOL ! BAWAAAAAAHA !


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and with only 60% the coverage of analog.


Using 1/100th the power of the equivelent analog's signal carrier. *Thus a
power savings to the station.


And, as discussed, on FM the "used" coverage area is the 64 dbu curve. Over
80% of listening is in the 70 dbu, and the rest in the 64 to 69 dbu contour.

The HD signal at least matches the 64 dbu useful and used contour. On AM,
the HD signal is often listenable beyond the "used and useful" contour of
the analog signal.


HD/IBOC causes adjacent-channel interference and has only 60% the
coverage of analog.

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On Mar 5, 6:50?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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AM is alive-and-well, especially news/talk/sports:


No, it's not. And news/talk is moving to FM and proving that the format
is
still viable on that band, while it is moving out of the sales demos on
AM
(as the recent Tribune Broadcasting problems show clearly).


AM news/talk/sports is alive-and-well:


No, the news talk format is alive and well and moving to FM because AM is
dying.


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On Mar 5, 7:23?pm, "Guerite?" wrote:
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HD's channels are low-bitrate streams


The station has a certain digital HD bandwidth that they can utilize as
they
wish. They can allocate the full HD bandwidth to a single channel for the
best sound. On FM that would result in a CD quality sound. Or they can
divy
up the bandwidth into 2 or 3 channels for lesser quality sound in each
channel.

of the same repetitive programming


If a station chooses to transmit two (2) HD channels, and many do, the
second HD channel's programming (HD2) is unique while the first HD channel
is the superioir sounding digital version of the analog signal broadcast.

causing adjacent-channel interference


Digital is digital - there is no static, noise, interference or fading
whatsoever on HD radio.

and with only 60% the coverage of analog.


Using 1/100th the power of the equivelent analog's signal carrier. Thus a
power savings to the station.


HD/IBOC requires much more power than alaog broadcasting - you lose !

Nope, it is a fraction of the power. A 50 kw AM uses a 500 watt HD signal on
the same frequency


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