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dxAce wrote:

Mike wrote:

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Mike wrote:

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Sacrificing CHOICE and creating QRM. Such a deal!

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock,
"Wrath of Kahn"

"Damn, quoting some fictional character from a fictional movie
lends real credence to your argument" - dxAce,
"rec.radio.shortwave"


Yes, it does, considering the truth of the quote.


Then by all means continue living in your fictional, comic book like
fantasy world like Edweenie does.


Absolutely hilarious.

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Nope, it is a fraction of the power. A 50 kw AM uses a 500 watt HD signal
on
the same frequency


This is pure baloney. Same crapola the DRM crowd tried to pass off on
the general public.


Check the technical specs. We are installing a new Nautel RX 50, which does
50 kw analog and 500 watts digital on AM.

In Band On Channel has 1/100th of the analog signal in the digital mode.


I have checked the specs. It does not even pass the smell test.

Like I stated previously the DRM consortium tried the same hyperbole,
which failed.

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"Telamon" wrote in
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In article , "Mike"
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In any case, HD sounds far better than any analog signal. HD
radio stations will abandon analog and redirect the full station
power of their amplifiers towards the HD digital stream.


Indeed. I just checked at www.hdradio.com. I had no idea there
were so many HD FM stations in my city (6). All have a 2nd
channel also, so this makes 6 new stations in my city!

I'll certainly be getting a HD radio this year, and I don't
understand all the opposition to it in this group. Is it just a
case of old farts/curmudgeons opposing something new? I *really*
don't understand the idea of clinging to what is essentially 100
year old technology - analog radio. Are some of you lamenting
the death of incandescent light bulbs also?

HD radio will happen much like HD TV did. Prices will drop until
Critical Mass is reached, then it will take over. Once you see
HD TV, you realize how bad the old system was.


It trashes my reception. Is that so hard to understand?


Does it trash any station in your market area in its primary coverage
area? Even the FCC understands that we are going to sacrifice fringe,
non-protected non-primary reception for the opportunity to preserve
free terrestrial radio.


Well OK. I understand it, you understand it, the FCC understands it so
why is this abortion going on?

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It trashes my reception. Is that so hard to understand?


So upgrade to a digital receiver. That's what I'm gonna do.

Besides, HD AM may never take off, for many reasons. Some are obvious and
some are more subtle. But HD FM is a great idea.


First off I do not consider buying an HD radio an "upgrade". I consider
it paying more money for another radio that gets what I have now with
analog. Second HD radio trashes my analog reception. Third is the reason
you gave, which is it will fail and I will end up with a worthless HD
radio.

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Finally, an answer that makes sense. DxAce broke the code.


Aren't you the guy who posted that HD carriers are _not_ only 1% of the
analog signal strength?

Continue posting false data...




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"Telamon" wrote in message
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Check the technical specs. We are installing a new Nautel RX 50, which
does
50 kw analog and 500 watts digital on AM.

In Band On Channel has 1/100th of the analog signal in the digital mode.


I have checked the specs. It does not even pass the smell test.


HD signals are 1% of the power of the licensed AM or FM analog signal.
Period.


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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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Finally, an answer that makes sense. DxAce broke the code.


Aren't you the guy who posted that HD carriers are _not_ only 1% of the
analog signal strength?

Continue posting false data...


No I'm not the person that posted that. Continue to fabricate.

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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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Check the technical specs. We are installing a new Nautel RX 50, which
does
50 kw analog and 500 watts digital on AM.

In Band On Channel has 1/100th of the analog signal in the digital mode.


I have checked the specs. It does not even pass the smell test.


HD signals are 1% of the power of the licensed AM or FM analog signal.
Period.


Ok, if you are the person that posted that "HD signals are 1% of the
power of the licensed AM or FM analog signal" then why accuse me of
posting it?

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"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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Finally, an answer that makes sense. DxAce broke the code.


Aren't you the guy who posted that HD carriers are _not_ only 1% of the
analog signal strength?

Continue posting false data...


No I'm not the person that posted that. Continue to fabricate.


Nope... you said that was not true, and compared it again, irrelevantly, to
DRM.


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"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

Finally, an answer that makes sense. DxAce broke the code.


Aren't you the guy who posted that HD carriers are _not_ only 1% of the
analog signal strength?

Continue posting false data...


No I'm not the person that posted that. Continue to fabricate.


Here is your post, in response to my quantification of HD power levels... I
said it was 1% of analog power and you said that did not pass your test.
Care to retract?

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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Nope, it is a fraction of the power. A 50 kw AM uses a 500 watt HD
signal
on
the same frequency


This is pure baloney. Same crapola the DRM crowd tried to pass off on
the general public.


Check the technical specs. We are installing a new Nautel RX 50, which
does
50 kw analog and 500 watts digital on AM.

In Band On Channel has 1/100th of the analog signal in the digital mode.


I have checked the specs. It does not even pass the smell test.

Like I stated previously the DRM consortium tried the same hyperbole,
which failed.

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Ventura, California


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