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![]() Tx Location: Unknown Station: Unknown Program: S4 noise level with two-second S8 transmissions, followed by one second of no carrier. Modulation method unknown, but there seems to be a marginally audible low frequency beat in the carrier. Occasionally the pattern is punctuated with very short pulses of other pulse-type modulation. Probably some sort of telemetry? Language: None Time: 0134U Frequency: 6,360.0 kHZ Mode: USB (seems to work best?) Signal: S8 Readability: ? SINPO: 35444 Rx Location: Southern California west coast, USA Equipment: Drake R8B Antenna: Datong Model IB5 active rotatable dipole Azimuth: ~160* - ~340* True |
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Larry Dighera wrote:
Tx Location: Unknown Station: Unknown Program: S4 noise level with two-second S8 transmissions, followed by one second of no carrier. Modulation method unknown, but there seems to be a marginally audible low frequency beat in the carrier. Occasionally the pattern is punctuated with very short pulses of other pulse-type modulation. Probably some sort of telemetry? Language: None Time: 0134U Frequency: 6,360.0 kHZ Mode: USB (seems to work best?) Signal: S8 Readability: ? SINPO: 35444 Rx Location: Southern California west coast, USA Equipment: Drake R8B Antenna: Datong Model IB5 active rotatable dipole Azimuth: ~160* - ~340* True Received here. Signal changed to a regular, shorter signal for about fifty or sixty repetitions then a change in pitch and rhythm for a few seconds. Calgary Alberta Canada Kenwood R2000 100 ft north/south antenna 1:56 GMT mike |
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:58:09 GMT, m II wrote in
RK1Kh.115110$cE3.46198@edtnps89: Larry Dighera wrote: Tx Location: Unknown Station: Unknown Program: S4 noise level with two-second S8 transmissions, followed by one second of no carrier. Modulation method unknown, but there seems to be a marginally audible low frequency beat in the carrier. Occasionally the pattern is punctuated with very short pulses of other pulse-type modulation. Probably some sort of telemetry? Language: None Time: 0134U Frequency: 6,360.0 kHZ Mode: USB (seems to work best?) Signal: S8 Readability: ? SINPO: 35444 Rx Location: Southern California west coast, USA Equipment: Drake R8B Antenna: Datong Model IB5 active rotatable dipole Azimuth: ~160* - ~340* True Received here. Signal changed to a regular, shorter signal for about fifty or sixty repetitions then a change in pitch and rhythm for a few seconds. Calgary Alberta Canada Kenwood R2000 100 ft north/south antenna 1:56 GMT mike That's a useful data point. Thank you. The fact that you received the station from a point over a thousand miles distant would seem to prove that the station is not necessarily located locally. I had considered it to possibly be a local telemetry broadcast. |
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![]() "Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... Tx Location: Unknown Station: Unknown Program: S4 noise level with two-second S8 transmissions, followed by one second of no carrier. Modulation method unknown, but there seems to be a marginally audible low frequency beat in the carrier. Occasionally the pattern is punctuated with very short pulses of other pulse-type modulation. Probably some sort of telemetry? Language: None Time: 0134U Frequency: 6,360.0 kHZ Mode: USB (seems to work best?) Signal: S8 Readability: ? SINPO: 35444 Rx Location: Southern California west coast, USA Equipment: Drake R8B Antenna: Datong Model IB5 active rotatable dipole Azimuth: ~160* - ~340* True It's a maritime ute. Modulation is SITOR. Globe Wireless, KEJ, Hawaii? Globe Wireless, KPH, San Francisco? -- rb |
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:29:09 -0700, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
wrote in : "Larry Dighera" wrote in message .. . Tx Location: Unknown Station: Unknown Program: S4 noise level with two-second S8 transmissions, followed by one second of no carrier. Modulation method unknown, but there seems to be a marginally audible low frequency beat in the carrier. Occasionally the pattern is punctuated with very short pulses of other pulse-type modulation. Probably some sort of telemetry? Language: None Time: 0134U Frequency: 6,360.0 kHZ Mode: USB (seems to work best?) Signal: S8 Readability: ? SINPO: 35444 Rx Location: Southern California west coast, USA Equipment: Drake R8B Antenna: Datong Model IB5 active rotatable dipole Azimuth: ~160* - ~340* True It's a maritime ute. Modulation is SITOR. Ah. Many thanks. I was completely unfamiliar with SITOR. There is a simple explanation of that mode he http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SITOR SITOR is used commonly on shortwave bands, where it is used to transmit maritime-related information such as weather forecasts and storm warnings. In the United States, it is regularly used by the United States Coast Guard. There is also a link to an audio file, so the modulation mode can be identified. SITOR has an aurally easy to identify idling pattern. Synchronization bursts are transmitted every second or so and last for slightly more than one second. Every few sync bursts, a Morse identifier of three letters is transmitted (for example NMO in Honolulu). However, the wiki audio sample, while similar to that heard on 6360 kHz, seems different. Perhaps that is due to my choice of detector, but I don't recall hearing any Morse code. I'll upload both the wiki SITOR audio sample file and the sample of what I received to alt.binaries.sounds.radio.misc, so you can judge for yourself. Globe Wireless, KEJ, Hawaii? Globe Wireless, KPH, San Francisco? There is information for those types of stations he NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MARINE PRODUCTS VIA U.S. COAST GUARD HF SITOR: http://www.weather.gov/om/marine/hfsitor.htm However, the sound of the sample signal offered he Click here to listen to what a typical SITOR signal sounds like on the air: http://www.weather.gov/om/marine/hfsitor.wav seems to differ from that heard on 6360.0 kHz. Compare the files I posted in alt.binaries.sounds.radio.misc, and see what you think. |
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![]() "Larry Dighera" wrote in message news ![]() On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:29:09 -0700, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote in : "Larry Dighera" wrote in message . .. Tx Location: Unknown Station: Unknown Program: S4 noise level with two-second S8 transmissions, followed by one second of no carrier. Modulation method unknown, but there seems to be a marginally audible low frequency beat in the carrier. Occasionally the pattern is punctuated with very short pulses of other pulse-type modulation. Probably some sort of telemetry? Language: None Time: 0134U Frequency: 6,360.0 kHZ Mode: USB (seems to work best?) Signal: S8 Readability: ? SINPO: 35444 Rx Location: Southern California west coast, USA Equipment: Drake R8B Antenna: Datong Model IB5 active rotatable dipole Azimuth: ~160* - ~340* True It's a maritime ute. Modulation is SITOR. Ah. Many thanks. I was completely unfamiliar with SITOR. There is a simple explanation of that mode he http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SITOR SITOR is used commonly on shortwave bands, where it is used to transmit maritime-related information such as weather forecasts and storm warnings. In the United States, it is regularly used by the United States Coast Guard. There is also a link to an audio file, so the modulation mode can be identified. SITOR has an aurally easy to identify idling pattern. Synchronization bursts are transmitted every second or so and last for slightly more than one second. Every few sync bursts, a Morse identifier of three letters is transmitted (for example NMO in Honolulu). However, the wiki audio sample, while similar to that heard on 6360 kHz, seems different. Perhaps that is due to my choice of detector, but I don't recall hearing any Morse code. I'll upload both the wiki SITOR audio sample file and the sample of what I received to alt.binaries.sounds.radio.misc, so you can judge for yourself. I went there but it was full of other things. I didn't see anything from you. Globe Wireless, KEJ, Hawaii? Globe Wireless, KPH, San Francisco? There is information for those types of stations he NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MARINE PRODUCTS VIA U.S. COAST GUARD HF SITOR: http://www.weather.gov/om/marine/hfsitor.htm However, the sound of the sample signal offered he Click here to listen to what a typical SITOR signal sounds like on the air: http://www.weather.gov/om/marine/hfsitor.wav seems to differ from that heard on 6360.0 kHz. Compare the files I posted in alt.binaries.sounds.radio.misc, and see what you think. I have about 70 sitor stations programmed into my radio controller. They operate 24/7. You can hear them whenever propagation is open to their location. There are typically 20 or so audible at any time. One that blew me away though is TAH Turkey on 12.654. (I'm in socal too.) It has come in loud and clear several times. But typically I hear Coast Guard NMO, NMN, WLO from Hawaii, Point Reyes, New Orleans. It is not uncommon to hear Chinese stations too, XSG, XSQ. Have heard UDK-2 Russia also. There are public and private maritime sitor utes. The public stations send their call letters in CW. The private ones don't. There are two modes, SITOR-A and SITOR-B. They kind of blur in my mind. Generally it sounds like they send an idler/beacon/ hailing pattern in FSK. Then occasionally break into an ARQ (Q)PSK packet data mode. That often sounds like a beep and a burst of 'noise'. The beep allows the receiver (ship) to sync to the exact frequency. The 'noise' is PSK or QPSK data. In the pauses between bursts the transmitter listens for an acknowledge from the receiver. We eavesdroppers hear the data packet from the base station but typically can't hear the acknowledge from the mobile (ship). (And maybe one of the modes is an FSK ARQ mode too.) The private utes are certainly encrypted. They are selling email and weather news service. Happy listening, rb |
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![]() "Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:35:26 -0700, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" wrote in : snip I'll upload both the wiki SITOR audio sample file and the sample of what I received to alt.binaries.sounds.radio.misc, so you can judge for yourself. I went there but it was full of other things. I didn't see anything from you. I can e-mail the audio file to you if you like. Is this a good address: ? No. ![]() You could try alt.binaries.alt or alt.binaries.pictures.tools. But I think I'm hearing the same signal. I'm in socal too. Right now, 9:19pm pacific daylight time, noise is s2 and signal is s3. Globe Wireless, KEJ, Hawaii? Globe Wireless, KPH, San Francisco? snip Interesting information. Thank you. I'd still like to identify the station on 6,360.0 kHz though. Most likely it is KEJ or KPH. KPH would make more sense from your antenna azimuth. There might be software to be found on the web to demodulate sitor. But probably the easiest way to identify the signal is to do data mining for it on the web or get signal reports from others. 'miso', who frequents rec.radio.shortwave, lives north of us (closer to the signal source?) and is a pretty skilled SWL. Maybe miso will see this and weigh in. -- rb |
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