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David Eduardo March 19th 07 01:55 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 

"HD Radio Fan" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote
...
AM is fading away. It is used by older folks, mostly, and there are only
largely successful stations in one format area: talk. Talk is now moving

to
FM, and when the transition is over, there will be no mass appeal format

on
AM and no younger listeners.


ANALog AM listeners will disappear just like shortwave listeners - only
faster.


HD improves FM audio, adds a second program channel, and vastly improves

AM
Audio. Nearly every FM can benefit. Only a few AMs can, as only a few
have
decent signals.


Like I said before; don't expect a Calipornia public school drop-out to
understand any sense of logic.


This, of course, is a lie. As are your facts on AM in genera.



dxAce March 19th 07 10:06 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"HD Radio Fan" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote

The same company started simulcasting KTAR (AM) on FM in Phoenix, and 6
months later, the news / talk format was only on FM.

(That is what "slowly moving" means... a lengthy transition to get people
used to the idea of finding the station on FM, not AM).


Don't expect a Calipornia public school dropout to understand anything
even
remotely similiar to logic.


Very funny.

1. I never went to school in Califonia.
2. I did not go to public school.


And you did not move to Mexico when you were 13.


3. I dropped out of the Colegio Americano in Quito to put my own radio
staiton on the air.
4. I was deans list for many semesters in college 10 years later when i did
my university studies part time while working.
5. Logic involves analyzing facts and drawing conclusions. Ams moving to FM
and becoming more successful indicates that more will do the same thing...
that is logic.



dxAce March 19th 07 12:35 PM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"HD Radio Fan" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote

The same company started simulcasting KTAR (AM) on FM in Phoenix, and 6
months later, the news / talk format was only on FM.

(That is what "slowly moving" means... a lengthy transition to get people
used to the idea of finding the station on FM, not AM).


Don't expect a Calipornia public school dropout to understand anything
even
remotely similiar to logic.


Very funny.

1. I never went to school in Califonia.
2. I did not go to public school.
3. I dropped out of the Colegio Americano in Quito to put my own radio
staiton on the air.


Yeah, that station where your name is not on the ownership papers and where you
signed QSL's as the 'General Manager'. Also signed as 'David F. Gleason'.

Oh, that's right, 'Eduardo' didn't show up until c.2000.


4. I was deans list for many semesters in college 10 years later when i did
my university studies part time while working.
5. Logic involves analyzing facts and drawing conclusions.


It sure does! That's how I discovered that you're a phoney baloney fake! I
analysed the facts and drew conclusions based upon those facts.



David March 19th 07 02:10 PM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:31:32 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
.. .
On 18 Mar 2007 06:26:29 -0700, "AM-HDisDead"
wrote:

On Mar 18, 12:29?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"AM-HDisDead" wrote in message

oups.com...

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !

The fact is that Bonneville is slowly moving KSL to FM anyway.

No, they are just simulcasting - AM is going to stay.

AM radio used to work real well, until the Reagan FCC screwed it up.


The Reagan FCC did not do much of anything to AM. What did AM in was FM...
anyone under 45 has grown up in the era where more listening went to FM than
AM (currently 80% or more) and they are not used to AM, especially for
music. That is why nearly nobody under 45 uses AM... it sounds bad, is noisy
and unpleasant compared to FM, iPods, webcasts, CDs, etc.

Content matters more than delivery system.

Steve March 19th 07 02:17 PM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 
On Mar 18, 1:01 pm, "AM-HDisDead"
wrote:
On Mar 18, 3:48?pm, "HD Radio Fan" wrote:

"David Eduardo" wrote in


6 stupid comments on a message board are not reality.


LOL !


19 comments - shows no one cares about HD Radio and everyone knows it
is a ****ing joke:

http://www.alexaholic.com/hdradio.co...om+xmradio.com


And take a look at the HD Radio group that was just created via
google:

http://groups.google.com/group/hd-radio?hl=en

It has so far received a whopping two posts, neither of which received
so much as a single reply. Even I wouldn't have expected such numbing
indifference to discussion of HD radio. Furthermore, posts to RRS
about HD radio aren't even being cross posted to the HD Radio group,
which makes me suspect that the posts to RRS are just troll attempts
and nothing more.

Is ANYONE out there interested in HD radio?



AM-HDisDead March 19th 07 04:55 PM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 
On Mar 18, 11:43?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"AM-HDisDead" wrote in message

oups.com...

On Mar 18, 1:29?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"AM-HDisDead" wrote in message


No, they are just simulcasting - AM is going to stay.


... for the moment.


The same company started simulcasting KTAR (AM) on FM in Phoenix, and 6
months later, the news / talk format was only on FM.


(That is what "slowly moving" means... a lengthy transition to get people
used to the idea of finding the station on FM, not AM).


Will never happen - KSL would lose too many listeners.


Why do you say that? When WTOP in Washington; DC, moved 100% from AM to FM,
the audience increased, especially in the sales friendly demographics under
age 55.



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I'll let you know, when all 4,500 AM stations go dark - terrestrial
radio is dying and HD/IBLOCK will just accelerate its death.


HD Radio³ March 19th 07 05:57 PM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
t...

"HD Radio Fan" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote

The same company started simulcasting KTAR (AM) on FM in Phoenix, and 6
months later, the news / talk format was only on FM.

(That is what "slowly moving" means... a lengthy transition to get

people
used to the idea of finding the station on FM, not AM).


Don't expect a Calipornia public school dropout to understand anything
even
remotely similiar to logic.


Very funny.

snip

I was certainly NOT refering to you. In fact I find your posts most
informative and an interesting insite into the business.
Keep posting!



David Eduardo March 19th 07 05:58 PM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"HD Radio Fan" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote

The same company started simulcasting KTAR (AM) on FM in Phoenix, and
6
months later, the news / talk format was only on FM.

(That is what "slowly moving" means... a lengthy transition to get
people
used to the idea of finding the station on FM, not AM).


Don't expect a Calipornia public school dropout to understand anything
even
remotely similiar to logic.


Very funny.

1. I never went to school in Califonia.
2. I did not go to public school.


And you did not move to Mexico when you were 13.


That again? You can not understand that a person can be in several different
places in a year yet?


3. I dropped out of the Colegio Americano in Quito to put my own radio
staiton on the air.
4. I was deans list for many semesters in college 10 years later when i
did
my university studies part time while working.
5. Logic involves analyzing facts and drawing conclusions. Ams moving to
FM
and becoming more successful indicates that more will do the same
thing...
that is logic.





HD Radio³ March 19th 07 06:00 PM

What KSL listeners had to say about ANALog Radio Idealogs!
 

"Steve" wrote
And take a look at the HD Radio group that was just created via
google:

http://groups.google.com/group/ANALog-radio?hl=en


Yeah, created by Socialist ANALog ideologs - bwaHAHAHA!



David Eduardo March 19th 07 06:01 PM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:31:32 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


"David" wrote in message
. ..
On 18 Mar 2007 06:26:29 -0700, "AM-HDisDead"
wrote:

On Mar 18, 12:29?am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"AM-HDisDead" wrote in message

oups.com...

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !

The fact is that Bonneville is slowly moving KSL to FM anyway.

No, they are just simulcasting - AM is going to stay.

AM radio used to work real well, until the Reagan FCC screwed it up.


The Reagan FCC did not do much of anything to AM. What did AM in was FM...
anyone under 45 has grown up in the era where more listening went to FM
than
AM (currently 80% or more) and they are not used to AM, especially for
music. That is why nearly nobody under 45 uses AM... it sounds bad, is
noisy
and unpleasant compared to FM, iPods, webcasts, CDs, etc.

Content matters more than delivery system.


Both matter. When news talk format are moved to FM or new "traditional" n/t
formats are put on FM, the 35-54 listening is much, much higher than an AM
with the same or comparable programming will get.

In other words, most people under a certain age will not listen to AM no
matter what is on it because the sound sucks and there is so much noise and
interference.



Steve March 19th 07 06:02 PM

What KSL listeners had to say about ANALog Radio Idealogs!
 
On Mar 19, 2:00 pm, "HD Radio³" wrote:
"Steve" wrote

And take a look at the HD Radio group that was just created via
google:


http://groups.google.com/group/ANALog-radio?hl=en


Yeah, created by Socialist ANALog ideologs - bwaHAHAHA!


So long as it's there for discussion of HD radio, who cares who
created it? Besides, someone who finds this group in the google
directory isn't going to know (or care) who created it. Even so, there
appears to be very little interest. Maybe this will change, but thus
far it's amazing how little activity there's been in the HD radio
group.


dxAce March 19th 07 06:07 PM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"HD Radio Fan" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote

The same company started simulcasting KTAR (AM) on FM in Phoenix, and
6
months later, the news / talk format was only on FM.

(That is what "slowly moving" means... a lengthy transition to get
people
used to the idea of finding the station on FM, not AM).


Don't expect a Calipornia public school dropout to understand anything
even
remotely similiar to logic.

Very funny.

1. I never went to school in Califonia.
2. I did not go to public school.


And you did not move to Mexico when you were 13.


That again? You can not understand that a person can be in several different
places in a year yet?


Sure I can, but you didn't move to Mexico.





3. I dropped out of the Colegio Americano in Quito to put my own radio
staiton on the air.
4. I was deans list for many semesters in college 10 years later when i
did
my university studies part time while working.
5. Logic involves analyzing facts and drawing conclusions. Ams moving to
FM
and becoming more successful indicates that more will do the same
thing...
that is logic.




David Eduardo March 19th 07 07:14 PM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:



That again? You can not understand that a person can be in several
different
places in a year yet?


Sure I can, but you didn't move to Mexico.


I lived there, did not commute. That, to me is "moving." One can always
move "back" to where they were previously, but you are not interested in
reality.



dxAce March 19th 07 07:18 PM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:



That again? You can not understand that a person can be in several
different
places in a year yet?


Sure I can, but you didn't move to Mexico.


I lived there, did not commute. That, to me is "moving." One can always
move "back" to where they were previously, but you are not interested in
reality.


LMFAO at the poor little fake boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David Eduardo March 19th 07 07:21 PM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:



That again? You can not understand that a person can be in several
different
places in a year yet?

Sure I can, but you didn't move to Mexico.


I lived there, did not commute. That, to me is "moving." One can always
move "back" to where they were previously, but you are not interested in
reality.


LMFAO at the poor little fake boy.


In other words, you have no response. Typical.

Go play with some Canadians.



dxAce March 19th 07 07:26 PM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:



That again? You can not understand that a person can be in several
different
places in a year yet?

Sure I can, but you didn't move to Mexico.

I lived there, did not commute. That, to me is "moving." One can always
move "back" to where they were previously, but you are not interested in
reality.


LMFAO at the poor little fake boy.


In other words, you have no response.


That was a response, little fake boy. Please, try to pay attention. I know, it's
hard for you to do, but give it a try.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Typical.

Go play with some Canadians.


Go play with some fairies.



Steve March 19th 07 08:07 PM

Why is David Gleason embezzling money from Univision?
 
On Mar 19, 2:00 pm, "HD Radio³" wrote:
"Steve" wrote

And take a look at the HD Radio group that was just created via
google:


http://groups.google.com/group/ANALog-radio?hl=en


Yeah, created by Socialist ANALog ideologs - bwaHAHAHA!


What difference does it make who created the group, so long as its
there for those who are interested in sharing information about HD
radio? Someone who finds the HD radio group in the google directory
will have no idea who created it, and it's hard to see why they'd care
so long as the group is what it purports to be.



dxAce March 19th 07 10:49 PM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"HD Radio Fan" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote

The same company started simulcasting KTAR (AM) on FM in Phoenix, and 6
months later, the news / talk format was only on FM.

(That is what "slowly moving" means... a lengthy transition to get people
used to the idea of finding the station on FM, not AM).


Don't expect a Calipornia public school dropout to understand anything
even
remotely similiar to logic.


Very funny.

1. I never went to school in Califonia.
2. I did not go to public school.
3. I dropped out of the Colegio Americano in Quito to put my own radio
staiton on the air.


Yeah, that station where your name is not on the ownership papers and where you
signed QSL's as the 'General Manager'. Also signed as 'David F. Gleason'.

Oh, that's right, 'Eduardo' didn't show up until c.2000.


4. I was deans list for many semesters in college 10 years later when i did
my university studies part time while working.
5. Logic involves analyzing facts and drawing conclusions. Ams moving to FM
and becoming more successful indicates that more will do the same thing...
that is logic.


It sure does! That's how I discovered that you're a phoney baloney fake! I
analysed the facts and drew conclusions based upon those facts.

You haven't responded, so I thought I'd post this again, boy.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David Eduardo March 19th 07 11:39 PM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:
3. I dropped out of the Colegio Americano in Quito to put my own radio

staiton on the air.


Yeah, that station where your name is not on the ownership papers and
where you
signed QSL's as the 'General Manager'. Also signed as 'David F. Gleason'.


If you care to check, Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda, a limited responsibility
corporation, was established in June of 1964 and I was the sole shareholder
and the "agent" was Dr. Isaac Cevallos, my attorney. I am sure that the
commercial section of the US Embassy / Quito can find this for you.

Oh, that's right, 'Eduardo' didn't show up until c.2000.


As I said, I never used the name (and still don't) for anything but 1) legal
papers that require the full name and, 2) Newsgroups, going back to The Well
and CIS in the 80's. It's a baptismal "given name" and for most things I
have never, and still don't, use it.


4. I was deans list for many semesters in college 10 years later when i
did
my university studies part time while working.
5. Logic involves analyzing facts and drawing conclusions. Ams moving to
FM
and becoming more successful indicates that more will do the same
thing...
that is logic.


It sure does! That's how I discovered that you're a phoney baloney fake! I
analysed the facts and drew conclusions based upon those facts.


Back to the subject: the reality is that HD is here and DXing will adapt to
it, hopefully with the introduction of a communications grade receiver with
HD on it.



dxAce March 19th 07 11:46 PM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:
3. I dropped out of the Colegio Americano in Quito to put my own radio
staiton on the air.


Yeah, that station where your name is not on the ownership papers and
where you
signed QSL's as the 'General Manager'. Also signed as 'David F. Gleason'.


If you care to check, Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda, a limited responsibility
corporation, was established in June of 1964 and I was the sole shareholder
and the "agent" was Dr. Isaac Cevallos, my attorney. I am sure that the
commercial section of the US Embassy / Quito can find this for you.


Edweenie, you're full of ****!



Oh, that's right, 'Eduardo' didn't show up until c.2000.


As I said, I never used the name (and still don't) for anything but 1) legal
papers that require the full name and, 2) Newsgroups, going back to The Well
and CIS in the 80's. It's a baptismal "given name" and for most things I
have never, and still don't, use it.


You never used it until c.2000. It didn't exist until then, despite your
protestations!

4. I was deans list for many semesters in college 10 years later when i
did
my university studies part time while working.
5. Logic involves analyzing facts and drawing conclusions. Ams moving to
FM
and becoming more successful indicates that more will do the same
thing...
that is logic.


It sure does! That's how I discovered that you're a phoney baloney fake! I
analysed the facts and drew conclusions based upon those facts.


Back to the subject: the reality is that HD is here and DXing will adapt to
it, hopefully with the introduction of a communications grade receiver with
HD on it.


Stop trying to obfuscate!

dxAce
Michigan
USA



David Eduardo March 19th 07 11:50 PM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:
3. I dropped out of the Colegio Americano in Quito to put my own
radio
staiton on the air.

Yeah, that station where your name is not on the ownership papers and
where you
signed QSL's as the 'General Manager'. Also signed as 'David F.
Gleason'.


If you care to check, Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda, a limited responsibility
corporation, was established in June of 1964 and I was the sole
shareholder
and the "agent" was Dr. Isaac Cevallos, my attorney. I am sure that the
commercial section of the US Embassy / Quito can find this for you.


Edweenie, you're full of ****!


In other words, you are not going to check. You could, and you would find
out the entire company was in my name.



[email protected] March 20th 07 12:34 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 
For one week in April of 1993 (or was it 1992? I have a page from a
Monterey,Mexico,MacDonalds restaurant Monterey news paper here
somewhere) I visited Mexico.Reynosa,Matamoros,Rio Bravo,Gral Bravo,
(depending on which old Rand McNally road atlas you look at,Gral Bravo
might be called Dr.Bravo,China,or Gral Bravo.I like Gral Bravo,it's a
litlle bitty fiendly little town.Bienevidos Gral Bravo) Nueva Laredo,a
bunch of other towns too.I reckon I can say for one week (seven days) I
lived in Mexico.I didn't get sick on the food and water either,I know
how to handle those ''kinds of situations''
cuhulin



Telamon March 20th 07 01:24 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about ANALog Radio Idealogs!
 
In article .com,
"Steve" wrote:

On Mar 19, 2:00 pm, "HD Radio³" wrote:
"Steve" wrote

And take a look at the HD Radio group that was just created via
google:


http://groups.google.com/group/ANALog-radio?hl=en


Yeah, created by Socialist ANALog ideologs - bwaHAHAHA!


So long as it's there for discussion of HD radio, who cares who
created it? Besides, someone who finds this group in the google
directory isn't going to know (or care) who created it. Even so, there
appears to be very little interest. Maybe this will change, but thus
far it's amazing how little activity there's been in the HD radio
group.


You must have missed the ongoing infomercial. It is very entertaining.
Take the fact that it insists a prototype chip exists before it is
fabricated. Hilarity ensues.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon March 20th 07 01:25 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 
In article ,
"HD Radio³" wrote:

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
t...

"HD Radio Fan" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote

The same company started simulcasting KTAR (AM) on FM in Phoenix, and 6
months later, the news / talk format was only on FM.

(That is what "slowly moving" means... a lengthy transition to get

people
used to the idea of finding the station on FM, not AM).


Don't expect a Calipornia public school dropout to understand anything
even
remotely similiar to logic.


Very funny.

snip

I was certainly NOT refering to you. In fact I find your posts most
informative and an interesting insite into the business.
Keep posting!


By all means keep on posting the BS. Very entertaining.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

David March 20th 07 02:25 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:01:07 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


In other words, most people under a certain age will not listen to AM no
matter what is on it because the sound sucks and there is so much noise and
interference.

So why are most of the Radio Disney stations AM?

David Eduardo March 20th 07 02:40 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 

"David" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:01:07 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:


In other words, most people under a certain age will not listen to AM no
matter what is on it because the sound sucks and there is so much noise
and
interference.

So why are most of the Radio Disney stations AM?


.... Because AM stations are cheap and for a couple of million, they got
about 40 of them.

Practically nobody listens; it's still a cheap marketing tool for Disney,
though.



HFguy March 20th 07 03:16 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 
David Eduardo wrote:

"HD Radio Fan" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote

The same company started simulcasting KTAR (AM) on FM in Phoenix, and 6
months later, the news / talk format was only on FM.

(That is what "slowly moving" means... a lengthy transition to get people
used to the idea of finding the station on FM, not AM).


Don't expect a Calipornia public school dropout to understand anything
even
remotely similiar to logic.



Very funny.

1. I never went to school in Califonia.
2. I did not go to public school.
3. I dropped out of the Colegio Americano in Quito to put my own radio
staiton on the air.
4. I was deans list for many semesters in college 10 years later when i did
my university studies part time while working.
5. Logic involves analyzing facts and drawing conclusions. Ams moving to FM
and becoming more successful indicates that more will do the same thing...
that is logic.


At this point David, the question is why are you spending so much time
on this group and others, defending HD radio and your personal life as
well. You said a while ago that it doesn't take much time from your
schedule to make all these responses but it's beginning to look like you
must be compensated in some way to make it worth your time. There are
just too many posts on this subject from someone that supposedly has
more important responsibilities in the radio industry than arguing on a
Usenet group. No one on this group is going to have any say in the
outcome of HD radio, with the possible exception of someone
participating in a listener survey. So why do you care?

David Eduardo March 20th 07 03:21 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 

"HFguy" wrote in message
news:vmILh.1689$zN.16@trndny03...

At this point David, the question is why are you spending so much time on
this group and others, defending HD radio and your personal life as well.
You said a while ago that it doesn't take much time from your schedule to
make all these responses but it's beginning to look like you must be
compensated in some way to make it worth your time. There are just too
many posts on this subject from someone that supposedly has more important
responsibilities in the radio industry than arguing on a Usenet group. No
one on this group is going to have any say in the outcome of HD radio,
with the possible exception of someone participating in a listener survey.
So why do you care?


It's amusing, especially while doing things like sitting in airports, doing
airchecks, etc.

But you make one very good point... nobody here will make even a tiny
difference in the success of HD except those working in the industry.



Telamon March 20th 07 03:33 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 
In article vmILh.1689$zN.16@trndny03, HFguy
wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

"HD Radio Fan" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote

The same company started simulcasting KTAR (AM) on FM in Phoenix,
and 6 months later, the news / talk format was only on FM.

(That is what "slowly moving" means... a lengthy transition to get
people used to the idea of finding the station on FM, not AM).


Don't expect a Calipornia public school dropout to understand
anything even remotely similiar to logic.



Very funny.

1. I never went to school in Califonia. 2. I did not go to public
school. 3. I dropped out of the Colegio Americano in Quito to put
my own radio staiton on the air. 4. I was deans list for many
semesters in college 10 years later when i did my university
studies part time while working. 5. Logic involves analyzing facts
and drawing conclusions. Ams moving to FM and becoming more
successful indicates that more will do the same thing... that is
logic.


At this point David, the question is why are you spending so much
time on this group and others, defending HD radio and your personal
life as well. You said a while ago that it doesn't take much time
from your schedule to make all these responses but it's beginning to
look like you must be compensated in some way to make it worth your
time. There are just too many posts on this subject from someone that
supposedly has more important responsibilities in the radio industry
than arguing on a Usenet group. No one on this group is going to have
any say in the outcome of HD radio, with the possible exception of
someone participating in a listener survey.


He is not arguing. In order to argue a point one has to provide
information supporting one's position. This information must support
one's position in a logical way or it does not sway anyone else's
thinking. He can not prove that his arguments are valid. He falls back
to a position of having "special knowledge" that no one else can
verify.

So why do you care?


Good question.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

HFguy March 20th 07 03:59 AM

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David Eduardo wrote:
"HFguy" wrote in message
news:vmILh.1689$zN.16@trndny03...

At this point David, the question is why are you spending so much time on
this group and others, defending HD radio and your personal life as well.
You said a while ago that it doesn't take much time from your schedule to
make all these responses but it's beginning to look like you must be
compensated in some way to make it worth your time. There are just too
many posts on this subject from someone that supposedly has more important
responsibilities in the radio industry than arguing on a Usenet group. No
one on this group is going to have any say in the outcome of HD radio,
with the possible exception of someone participating in a listener survey.
So why do you care?



It's amusing, especially while doing things like sitting in airports, doing
airchecks, etc.

But you make one very good point... nobody here will make even a tiny
difference in the success of HD except those working in the industry.


I guess we can take your refusal to answer the compensation question as
an indication that you are in some way compensated. It's clear that this
is all a game for you but how about giving it a rest.

Telamon March 20th 07 04:00 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"HFguy" wrote in message
news:vmILh.1689$zN.16@trndny03...

At this point David, the question is why are you spending so much time on
this group and others, defending HD radio and your personal life as well.
You said a while ago that it doesn't take much time from your schedule to
make all these responses but it's beginning to look like you must be
compensated in some way to make it worth your time. There are just too
many posts on this subject from someone that supposedly has more important
responsibilities in the radio industry than arguing on a Usenet group. No
one on this group is going to have any say in the outcome of HD radio,
with the possible exception of someone participating in a listener survey.
So why do you care?


It's amusing, especially while doing things like sitting in airports, doing
airchecks, etc.

But you make one very good point... nobody here will make even a tiny
difference in the success of HD except those working in the industry.


Yes we are very amused at your BS. Be sure to show these posts to your
circle of imaginary insiders so they can laugh at us and continue to
imagine seeing and hearing that imaginary ASIC at working in a prototype
unit.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon March 20th 07 04:24 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 
In article X_ILh.10198$el3.3366@trndny01, HFguy
wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"HFguy" wrote in message
news:vmILh.1689$zN.16@trndny03...

At this point David, the question is why are you spending so much
time on this group and others, defending HD radio and your personal
life as well. You said a while ago that it doesn't take much time
from your schedule to make all these responses but it's beginning
to look like you must be compensated in some way to make it worth
your time. There are just too many posts on this subject from
someone that supposedly has more important responsibilities in the
radio industry than arguing on a Usenet group. No one on this group
is going to have any say in the outcome of HD radio, with the
possible exception of someone participating in a listener survey.
So why do you care?



It's amusing, especially while doing things like sitting in
airports, doing airchecks, etc.

But you make one very good point... nobody here will make even a
tiny difference in the success of HD except those working in the
industry.


I guess we can take your refusal to answer the compensation question
as an indication that you are in some way compensated. It's clear
that this is all a game for you but how about giving it a rest.


He is full of crap making stuff up as he goes along. He is just a
poseur.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

[email protected] March 20th 07 05:05 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 
Mexican Gangs Take Over L.A. As Cops Back Down. www.rense.com

Getting rough over there,eh? The Park Is Mine movie (Tommy Lee
Jones,Helen Shaver,Yaphet Kotto.An armed Vietnam Veteran takes over New
York's Central Park to publicize the plight of Veterans) is on tv
now,but that is only a movie.L.A.isn't a movie.

I happen to be looking at a business card right now. (in between while I
am typing) Advanced Contracting.Tree Service & Demolition.Stump
Grinding.Tree Removal.Tree Trimming.Fully Insured.Free Estimates.Mke
Ducker.601 845 8812 Toll Free 1 866 640 6600

Mike Ducker,formerly from Idaho got some work here in Mississippi right
after Hurricane Katrina.Last June I looked in my Jackson phone book and
the first tree service company I called about coming over here to give
me an estimate about cutting down a 70 foot tall pecan tree in my front
and another 70 foot tall pecan tree in my back yard,(both trees were
threatening to fall over on my house) no one showed up here.Then I
phoned Advanced Contracting.Mike Ducker answered his cell phone.He said
he would be here at 3:30 PM and he was here at 3:00 PM.$400.00 per tree
(two trees) he said.I told him OK.The next morning,he and two of his
sons and another guy showed up here and by 1:30 PM,they had the two
trees here cut down and grown up and hauled away.

That L.A.article said some of those L.A.Cops are moving to Idaho.Mike
Ducker told me he likes Mississippi so much,he decided to move here.Pick
up that phone in the morning and dial that toll free number and talk to
Mike Ducker if y'all don't believe me.It is a free phone call,it won't
cost you a penny.
cuhulin


David Eduardo March 20th 07 05:21 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

He is not arguing. In order to argue a point one has to provide
information supporting one's position. This information must support
one's position in a logical way or it does not sway anyone else's
thinking. He can not prove that his arguments are valid. He falls back
to a position of having "special knowledge" that no one else can
verify.


Nearly everyone in commercial radio has access, for example, to Arbitron
data. However, it is copyright and costs... as an example... as much as $2
million a year to an LA station cluster to subscribe... and can not be given
out freely. So that is the sort of data that I have and you don't. I also
have access to all kinds of proprietary radio research that you can never
get, either. Some guys at Coke have access to the formula for the soft
drink, but you don't...

The world is filled with special knowledge. In the case of radio, you have
none of it. Your choice is to believe those who do have access, or to pound
sand. Apparently you like the beach better than the truth.



David Eduardo March 20th 07 05:25 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 

"HFguy" wrote in message
news:X_ILh.10198$el3.3366@trndny01...
David Eduardo wrote:
"HFguy" wrote in message
news:vmILh.1689$zN.16@trndny03...

At this point David, the question is why are you spending so much time on
this group and others, defending HD radio and your personal life as well.
You said a while ago that it doesn't take much time from your schedule to
make all these responses but it's beginning to look like you must be
compensated in some way to make it worth your time. There are just too
many posts on this subject from someone that supposedly has more
important responsibilities in the radio industry than arguing on a Usenet
group. No one on this group is going to have any say in the outcome of HD
radio, with the possible exception of someone participating in a listener
survey. So why do you care?



It's amusing, especially while doing things like sitting in airports,
doing airchecks, etc.

But you make one very good point... nobody here will make even a tiny
difference in the success of HD except those working in the industry.


I guess we can take your refusal to answer the compensation question as an
indication that you are in some way compensated. It's clear that this is
all a game for you but how about giving it a rest.


It's absurd to even think that any radio company cares what goes on in a
group with about 15 regular posters. In case that is too obtuse, no, I do
not get compensated,

I was, before working in radio, a radio groupie. I collected DJ autographs
and verification letters and EKKO stamps and Jones Logs. Despite being in
the business now for nearly 50 years, I am still, first, a radio groupie.
Heck, last week I bought a sheetfed duplex scanner to put my Radex and
Whites and Stevenson's logs on my website... the first 15 or so are already
there, spanning the late 20's to the late 40's.

I believe in radio, and believe it still has lots of life. But there will be
fundamental technical changes for it to survive. Some may not be DX
friendly, and some may open up new DX opportunities.



David Eduardo March 20th 07 05:27 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"HFguy" wrote in message
news:vmILh.1689$zN.16@trndny03...

At this point David, the question is why are you spending so much time
on
this group and others, defending HD radio and your personal life as
well.
You said a while ago that it doesn't take much time from your schedule
to
make all these responses but it's beginning to look like you must be
compensated in some way to make it worth your time. There are just too
many posts on this subject from someone that supposedly has more
important
responsibilities in the radio industry than arguing on a Usenet group.
No
one on this group is going to have any say in the outcome of HD radio,
with the possible exception of someone participating in a listener
survey.
So why do you care?


It's amusing, especially while doing things like sitting in airports,
doing
airchecks, etc.

But you make one very good point... nobody here will make even a tiny
difference in the success of HD except those working in the industry.


Yes we are very amused at your BS. Be sure to show these posts to your
circle of imaginary insiders so they can laugh at us and continue to
imagine seeing and hearing that imaginary ASIC at working in a prototype
unit.


And how many HD stations do you work with? And how many markets do you get
monthly and weekly Arbitron data for?

You don't know a thing about the radio industry, as you have proven over and
over again, and the worst thing is that you don't care to learn. Having $5 k
for an expensive radio is not a sign of knowledge, just of extravagance.



dxAce March 20th 07 09:20 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:
3. I dropped out of the Colegio Americano in Quito to put my own
radio
staiton on the air.

Yeah, that station where your name is not on the ownership papers and
where you
signed QSL's as the 'General Manager'. Also signed as 'David F.
Gleason'.

If you care to check, Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda, a limited responsibility
corporation, was established in June of 1964 and I was the sole
shareholder
and the "agent" was Dr. Isaac Cevallos, my attorney. I am sure that the
commercial section of the US Embassy / Quito can find this for you.


Edweenie, you're full of ****!


In other words, you are not going to check. You could, and you would find
out the entire company was in my name.


Seems as though you have stated in the past that it *was not* in your name..
Which would explain why you were merely the *General Manager*.

LMFAO

dxAce
Michigan
USA



HFguy March 20th 07 09:22 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 
David Eduardo wrote:

"HFguy" wrote in message
news:X_ILh.10198$el3.3366@trndny01...

David Eduardo wrote:

"HFguy" wrote in message
news:vmILh.1689$zN.16@trndny03...


At this point David, the question is why are you spending so much time on
this group and others, defending HD radio and your personal life as well.
You said a while ago that it doesn't take much time from your schedule to
make all these responses but it's beginning to look like you must be
compensated in some way to make it worth your time. There are just too
many posts on this subject from someone that supposedly has more
important responsibilities in the radio industry than arguing on a Usenet
group. No one on this group is going to have any say in the outcome of HD
radio, with the possible exception of someone participating in a listener
survey. So why do you care?


It's amusing, especially while doing things like sitting in airports,
doing airchecks, etc.

But you make one very good point... nobody here will make even a tiny
difference in the success of HD except those working in the industry.


I guess we can take your refusal to answer the compensation question as an
indication that you are in some way compensated. It's clear that this is
all a game for you but how about giving it a rest.



It's absurd to even think that any radio company cares what goes on in a
group with about 15 regular posters. In case that is too obtuse, no, I do
not get compensated,

I was, before working in radio, a radio groupie. I collected DJ autographs
and verification letters and EKKO stamps and Jones Logs. Despite being in
the business now for nearly 50 years, I am still, first, a radio groupie.
Heck, last week I bought a sheetfed duplex scanner to put my Radex and
Whites and Stevenson's logs on my website... the first 15 or so are already
there, spanning the late 20's to the late 40's.

I believe in radio, and believe it still has lots of life. But there will be
fundamental technical changes for it to survive. Some may not be DX
friendly, and some may open up new DX opportunities.


Fair enough but I guess you must see something to be gained by
continuing to respond to the various abuses you get here. Is it really
worth it?

dxAce March 20th 07 09:33 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 


HFguy wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

"HFguy" wrote in message
news:X_ILh.10198$el3.3366@trndny01...

David Eduardo wrote:

"HFguy" wrote in message
news:vmILh.1689$zN.16@trndny03...


At this point David, the question is why are you spending so much time on
this group and others, defending HD radio and your personal life as well.
You said a while ago that it doesn't take much time from your schedule to
make all these responses but it's beginning to look like you must be
compensated in some way to make it worth your time. There are just too
many posts on this subject from someone that supposedly has more
important responsibilities in the radio industry than arguing on a Usenet
group. No one on this group is going to have any say in the outcome of HD
radio, with the possible exception of someone participating in a listener
survey. So why do you care?


It's amusing, especially while doing things like sitting in airports,
doing airchecks, etc.

But you make one very good point... nobody here will make even a tiny
difference in the success of HD except those working in the industry.

I guess we can take your refusal to answer the compensation question as an
indication that you are in some way compensated. It's clear that this is
all a game for you but how about giving it a rest.



It's absurd to even think that any radio company cares what goes on in a
group with about 15 regular posters. In case that is too obtuse, no, I do
not get compensated,

I was, before working in radio, a radio groupie. I collected DJ autographs
and verification letters and EKKO stamps and Jones Logs. Despite being in
the business now for nearly 50 years, I am still, first, a radio groupie.
Heck, last week I bought a sheetfed duplex scanner to put my Radex and
Whites and Stevenson's logs on my website... the first 15 or so are already
there, spanning the late 20's to the late 40's.

I believe in radio, and believe it still has lots of life. But there will be
fundamental technical changes for it to survive. Some may not be DX
friendly, and some may open up new DX opportunities.


Fair enough but I guess you must see something to be gained by
continuing to respond to the various abuses you get here. Is it really
worth it?


For him it is. There are cracks appearing in his fantasy world and he has to keep
up the repairs elsewise it will surely crumble.



David Eduardo March 20th 07 10:42 AM

What KSL listeners had to say about HD Radio !
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


If you care to check, Radio Musical, Cia. Ltda, a limited
responsibility
corporation, was established in June of 1964 and I was the sole
shareholder
and the "agent" was Dr. Isaac Cevallos, my attorney. I am sure that
the
commercial section of the US Embassy / Quito can find this for you.

Edweenie, you're full of ****!


In other words, you are not going to check. You could, and you would find
out the entire company was in my name.


Seems as though you have stated in the past that it *was not* in your
name..
Which would explain why you were merely the *General Manager*.


I did not say that; I said the license was not in my name... the company
that owned the license was. In fact, only a few hundred US radio stations
out of 14 thousand are in the name of an individual licensee... all the rest
are companies of some kind.

How else would the general manager of a radio station do a business card?
Many general managers are also owners of the licensee corporation, but they
don't put that on their card.




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