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Default Digital radio in Canada stalled, as it will in the U.S.

"Digital radio in Canada"

"The Commission is very concerned about the stalled DRB transition.
Roughly 15 of the 76 authorized stations (including the digital-only
operation in Toronto) are not on the air. Some stations that once
operated have since ceased operations. Few recievers have been sold,
and there is no interest in expanding DRB service beyond the six
cities where it exists. Since DRB transmitters have only been built in
the largest cities, motorists travelling between Quebec and Windsor,
between Calgary and Edmonton, or between Vancouver and south-central
British Columbia lose DRB reception. As a result, automakers have
switched their support from terrestrial DRB to XM/Sirius satellite
radio."

http://americanbandscan.blogspot.com...in-canada.html

Just as in Canada, few receivers have been sold in the U.S.

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On Mar 22, 5:46�pm, "HD Radio�" wrote:
"AM-HDisDead" wrote in message

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"Digital radio in Canada"


"The Commission is very concerned about the stalled DRB transition.
Roughly 15 of the 76 authorized stations (including the digital-only
operation in Toronto) are not on the air. Some stations that once
operated have since ceased operations. Few recievers have been sold,
and there is no interest in expanding DRB service beyond the six
cities where it exists. Since DRB transmitters have only been built in
the largest cities, motorists travelling between Quebec and Windsor,
between Calgary and Edmonton, or between Vancouver and south-central
British Columbia lose DRB reception. As a result, automakers have
switched their support from terrestrial DRB to XM/Sirius satellite
radio."


Canada is a Socialist State. *They can thank their stars they are still
"Free to Choose"http://www.ideachannel.tv/
It is no wonder that its citizens have embraced the free-market system of
Free Choice and have by-passed the Socialist broadcasting system.


Too bad, I am in Maryland and Canada has 50 50KW AM stations, that
will never allow nighttime AM-HD - so, when IBLOCK ****s up nighttime
AM in the US, I have alternatives to DX !

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"AM-HDisDead" wrote in message
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"Digital radio in Canada"

"The Commission is very concerned about the stalled DRB transition.
Roughly 15 of the 76 authorized stations (including the digital-only
operation in Toronto) are not on the air. Some stations that once
operated have since ceased operations. Few recievers have been sold,
and there is no interest in expanding DRB service beyond the six
cities where it exists. Since DRB transmitters have only been built in
the largest cities, motorists travelling between Quebec and Windsor,
between Calgary and Edmonton, or between Vancouver and south-central
British Columbia lose DRB reception. As a result, automakers have
switched their support from terrestrial DRB to XM/Sirius satellite
radio."


Canada is a Socialist State. They can thank their stars they are still
"Free to Choose" http://www.ideachannel.tv/
It is no wonder that its citizens have embraced the free-market system of
Free Choice and have by-passed the Socialist broadcasting system.


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On 22 Mrz., 14:58, "AM-HDisDead"
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Too bad, I am in Maryland and Canada has 50 50KW AM stations, that
will never allow nighttime AM-HD - so, when IBLOCK ****s up nighttime
AM in the US, I have alternatives to DX !


The problem with that though, is that a lot of the AM stations in
Canada are shutting down and moving to FM. Some areas have no AM
stations left.

stephanie

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On Mar 23, 4:09�pm, "Stephanie Weil" wrote:
On 22 Mrz., 14:58, "AM-HDisDead"
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Too bad, I am in Maryland and Canada has 50 50KW AM stations, that
will never allow nighttime AM-HD - so, when IBLOCK ****s up nighttime
AM in the US, I have alternatives to DX !


The problem with that though, is that a lot of the AM stations in
Canada are shutting down and moving to FM. *Some areas have no AM
stations left.

stephanie


There are still 50 AMs left in Canada.



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On Mar 23, 8:11 pm, wrote:
There are still 50 AMs left in Canada.


50 AM stations in the entire country of Canada or 50 clear-channel
stations?

The former is pretty dissapointing. Sure doesn't bode well for AM
radio outside the MAJOR MAJOR cities (like Toronto, Windsor, Ontario
or Montreal).

stephanie weil

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"Stephanie Weil" wrote in message
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On Mar 23, 8:11 pm, wrote:
There are still 50 AMs left in Canada.


50 AM stations in the entire country of Canada or 50 clear-channel
stations?

The former is pretty dissapointing. Sure doesn't bode well for AM
radio outside the MAJOR MAJOR cities (like Toronto, Windsor, Ontario
or Montreal).


Actually, there are only 105 AMs left in Canada. The CBC is down to 13 in
total. 39 are 50 kw day and night, this per BIA.


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David Eduardo wrote:
"Stephanie Weil" wrote in message
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On Mar 23, 8:11 pm, wrote:
There are still 50 AMs left in Canada.


50 AM stations in the entire country of Canada or 50 clear-channel
stations?

The former is pretty dissapointing. Sure doesn't bode well for AM
radio outside the MAJOR MAJOR cities (like Toronto, Windsor, Ontario
or Montreal).


Actually, there are only 105 AMs left in Canada. The CBC is down to 13 in
total. 39 are 50 kw day and night, this per BIA.


So, I'm not wearing any pants.

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Default Canadian DAB/DRB -and- US IBOC 'HD" Radio - Not The Same [.]

On Mar 22, 10:32 am, "AM-HDisDead"
wrote:
"Digital radio in Canada"

"The Commission is very concerned about the stalled DRB transition.
Roughly 15 of the 76 authorized stations (including the digital-only
operation in Toronto) are not on the air. Some stations that once
operated have since ceased operations. Few recievers have been sold,
and there is no interest in expanding DRB service beyond the six
cities where it exists. Since DRB transmitters have only been built in
the largest cities, motorists travelling between Quebec and Windsor,
between Calgary and Edmonton, or between Vancouver and south-central
British Columbia lose DRB reception. As a result, automakers have
switched their support from terrestrial DRB to XM/Sirius satellite
radio."

http://americanbandscan.blogspot.com...adio-in-canada....

Just as in Canada, few receivers have been sold in the U.S.


Canadian DAB/DRB -and- US IBOC 'HD" Radio - Not The Same [.]
OK - What We Have Here Is A Failure To Communicate
-Comparing- Apples-to-Oranges
* DAB - An All New Radio Band
* IBOC - Modifying and Intergrating Digital Radio
into the existing Analog AM & FM Radio Bands.

The USofA's "HD" Radio System is In-Band-On-Channel {IBOC}
IBOC = http://www.ibiquity.com/
IBOC is clearly and technologically not the same as Canada's
Digital Radio Broadcasting which is a System based on the UHF
Erueka 147 (DAB)
HD RADIO = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Radio
IBOC = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-band_on-channel
DIGITAL RADIO = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_radio
Digital Audio Broadcasting (DAB -aka- Eureka 147 DAB
DAB = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EUREKA_147

FWIW - Eureka 147 DAB will NOT be coming to the USofA
CAUSE - The US Military has Reserved L-Band in the USA :
Therefore Blocking the use of the L-Band for DAB in the USofA.

Canada's Digital Radio Broadcasting (DRB) was a 'clone'
of the European DAB Radio System "Eurika 147" which
is UHF = A New Radio Band and Hence All New Radios.
http://www.cab-acr.ca/drri/index.shtm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital...casting#Canada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_147
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_in_Canada

Question - Will listeners need to purchase a new Radio ?

Answer - Hell Yes, to Receive the new Digital Radio sound
and services you will need an all new Digital Radio Receiver
which includes a new Frequency Band called the "L-Band"
along with the present AM and FM Band services.
- - - Warning - The AM and FM Band services will continue
to be available alongside the new Digital Services, for at least
10 Years before they are 'gradually' PHASED OUT !

Eureka 147 Radio Channels in the International L-Band DAB
allocation of 1452-1492 MHz.
http://www.rwonline.com/reference-ro...i_aug_11.shtml
For Canada this amounts to 23 DAB Channels for the
whole Nation since the majority of Radio remains a
Government Controlled Monolopy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_in_Canada
http://www.wohnort.demon.co.uk/DAB/a-f.html#Canada
http://www.crc.ca/en/html/crc/home/m...s_2002/svn_drb


To Date - Canadian Radio Broadcasters have rolled out
Eureka-147 DAB L-Band Digital Radio Broadcasting
services in six cities: Ottawa, Toronto, Vancouver,
Victoria, Montreal and Windsor.
http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0049/t.775.html
More than 50 AM and FM stations are currently broadcasting
100 percent simulcasts of their analog programming.


as always - more than you wanted to know ~ RHF {pomkia}
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Step,you still climbing up and down that rope to your New York City
apartment?

I used to email chat back and forth with a girl (what is a girl anyway?)
in New York City.
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