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The CBC announced its new schedule today. For those who like the arts,
humanities, and sciences it is a disaster. No classical music, no
opera, no lectures by people who know their subject, no plays.
Instead, they are changing their programming to appeal to the
"younger generation."
The Harper Conservative government has a large number of neo -con
members who would like to do away with the CBC altogether and give the
airwaves over to their wealthy members. This new programming is a step
on the way as the CBC will have lost their solid core of arts and
humanities listeners and will not attract the 18-35 demographic who
are well served by private stations.
For all the horrible details see the Toronto Star for Apr 8.
Support PBS: that's all we have left.

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On Apr 5, 11:04 pm, "ve3..." wrote:
The CBC announced its new schedule today. For those who like the arts,
humanities, and sciences it is a disaster. No classical music, no
opera, no lectures by people who know their subject, no plays.
Instead, they are changing their programming to appeal to the
"younger generation."



Well, that bloody bites. There are two anglophone CBC stations:
Radio One and Two-FM (or whatever it's called now).

Radio One has always been the news/talk full-service station, while
Two-FM has always been a music & fine arts station. The Francophone
counterpart used to be called the "Chaine Culturelle" (Cultural
Network).

I always thought it was the ideal use of the two stations. So you're
saying they dumped the music from the music station????

stephanie

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"ve3..." ) writes:
The CBC announced its new schedule today. For those who like the arts,
humanities, and sciences it is a disaster. No classical music, no
opera, no lectures by people who know their subject, no plays.
Instead, they are changing their programming to appeal to the
"younger generation."


This schedule is at least two weeks old. They may have issued an updated
schedule, I think some things were previously indefinite, but "Jazzbeat"
has been missing for a while, replaced by the daily "Tonic" (still
with Katie Malloch).

Michael
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On Apr 5, 11:04 pm, "ve3..." wrote:
The CBC announced its new schedule today. For those who like the arts,
humanities, and sciences it is a disaster. No classical music, no
opera, no lectures by people who know their subject, no plays.
Instead, they are changing their programming to appeal to the
"younger generation."



Well, that bloody bites. There are two anglophone CBC stations:
Radio One and Two-FM (or whatever it's called now).

Radio One has always been the news/talk full-service station, while
Two-FM has always been a music & fine arts station. The Francophone
counterpart used to be called the "Chaine Culturelle" (Cultural
Network).

I always thought it was the ideal use of the two stations. So you're
saying they dumped the music from the music station????

No, no, they've just rearranged some things, and refocused
others.

"Radio One" which used to be CBC AM, is still talk. They've taken
out some of the more arty things (which may be because they were
coming from the other network and are no longer on the other network),
and added some repeats of weekend shows in the late evening/night.

"Radio Two" which used to be CBC FM (or more specifically CBC Stereo),
is still music. They haven't dropped classical music, they've just
made it less important. They've added more jazz, though I don't know
yet (since I've not listened to the show) what sort of jazz it
generally is. I don't believe they've dropped the weekend opera.

Now the debate is whether the changes are a good thing or not. I
happen to only listen to classical music if there's nothing else on
and I don't feel like putting on a CD (or record). So putting a daily
jazz show is a good thing from my standpoint (with the caveat that
it may not be the type of jazz I like). At the very least, I am
tasting "Radio Two" a fair amount since the changes came into effect
two or three weeks, because I want to know what's new. I'm not the
"younger" audience, unless they have a wide definition of "young".

Michael

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ve3... wrote:

The CBC announced its new schedule today. For those who like the
arts, humanities, and sciences it is a disaster. No classical
music, no opera, no lectures by people who know their subject,
no plays.
Instead, they are changing their programming to appeal to the
"younger generation."
The Harper Conservative government has a large number of
neo -con
members who would like to do away with the CBC altogether and
give the airwaves over to their wealthy members. This new
programming is a step on the way as the CBC will have lost their
solid core of arts and humanities listeners and will not attract
the 18-35 demographic who are well served by private stations.
For all the horrible details see the Toronto Star for Apr 8.
Support PBS: that's all we have left.

Everyone misses "Music for a While" the late
evening classical programme with Danielle Charbonneau.

Tonic, the early evening, (much too early) jazz
show has no theme, and seems to be a lucky dip
into their MP3 pool. But nothing too edgy, nothing
too old, nothing very unfamilar.
Dull.

There is no place for long form classical. As with
the remake of the SRC French Chaine culturelle (now
Deuxieme chaine, they've dumbed the whole thing down
to a light muzak level.

Many many repeats over the week on both Radio One and
Radio Bugaloo.
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On Apr 5, 11:04 pm, "ve3..." wrote:
The CBC announced its new schedule today. For those who like the arts,
humanities, and sciences it is a disaster. No classical music, no
opera, no lectures by people who know their subject, no plays.
Instead, they are changing their programming to appeal to the
"younger generation."

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These program changes are for the fall schedule and do not affect
current programming. There is a lively discussion in the Globe and
Mail forum.


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On Apr 6, 2:49 am, "RHF" wrote:
On Apr 5, 8:04 pm, "ve3..." wrote:



Two All American Points "Aboot" Canada and the CBC :

1 - Lets see the the Demographics of Canada is changing
and the CBC is making changes to better serve those
new Demographics. The Canadian People of 2007.

2 - The CBC 'exists' to Serve the People of Canada with
Daily News, Information and Entertainment that is current
and up-to-date. OK so is this the : 1950s, 1960s, 1970s,
1980s or even the 1990s : No it is the Year 2007 and this
Ain't Your Old (Oh) Canada ! Any More [.]

you go cbc make it relevant and diverse with respect to
what's happening in canada today for all canadians ~ RHF


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The CBC used to have some programs in the arts that were directed to
the small minority that enjoyed them. The private broadcasters would
never put on plays or concerts so it was left up to the CBC to provide
this type of program in parts of their schedule. Although Canada is
changing with heavy immigration, some immigrants would like this type
of programming too. Their main ethnic interests are well served by
many private broadcasters.
I know youth must be served, but does hip-hop noise have to replace
Venture? Does Little Mosque on the Prairie have to replace the
symphony? Shouldn't mature people also be served?
The word on the forums is that the CBC blew its budget getting
Hockey Night in Canada and the Olympics so it was a good time for a
paradigm shift. If you want to see what is possible in programming, go
to the BBC website and examine the offerings on channels 1 to 7.
Why don't we do that? That is the question.

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ve3... wrote:
The CBC announced its new schedule today. For those who like the arts,
humanities, and sciences it is a disaster. No classical music, no
opera, no lectures by people who know their subject, no plays.
Instead, they are changing their programming to appeal to the
"younger generation."
The Harper Conservative government has a large number of neo -con
members who would like to do away with the CBC altogether and give the
airwaves over to their wealthy members. This new programming is a step
on the way as the CBC will have lost their solid core of arts and
humanities listeners and will not attract the 18-35 demographic who
are well served by private stations.
For all the horrible details see the Toronto Star for Apr 8.
Support PBS: that's all we have left.


Will this new policy also affect TVO?
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On Apr 6, 6:35 am, Tommy Tootles wrote:
ve3... wrote:
The CBC announced its new schedule today. For those who like the arts,
humanities, and sciences it is a disaster. No classical music, no
opera, no lectures by people who know their subject, no plays.
Instead, they are changing their programming to appeal to the
"younger generation."
The Harper Conservative government has a large number of neo -con
members who would like to do away with the CBC altogether and give the
airwaves over to their wealthy members. This new programming is a step
on the way as the CBC will have lost their solid core of arts and
humanities listeners and will not attract the 18-35 demographic who
are well served by private stations.
For all the horrible details see the Toronto Star for Apr 8.
Support PBS: that's all we have left.


Will this new policy also affect TVO?



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On Apr 6, 6:35 am, Tommy Tootles wrote:
ve3... wrote:
The CBC announced its new schedule today. For those who like the arts,
humanities, and sciences it is a disaster.


Will this new policy also affect TVO?

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Oops. Screw up on previous post.

TVO will not be affected by the CBC. TVO is an Ontario institution.
Other provincial public tv's include SCN (Saskatchewan)and Alberta
Access. They all are independent of Ottawa and operate with a tiny
fraction of the CBC's one billion dollars. In spite of this, they
often show more creativity in programming than is seen coming from the
CBC's bloated bureaucracy.


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