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Imus Update
I watched Imus this morning until 8:00 and he was quite rattled at
times. He apologised profusely for his comments about the Rutgers team and indicated that his show would be more politically correct for the "next 4 or 5 years". He had spent much of the weekend consulting with Al Sharpton and the head of the First Baptist Church and they both agreed that he was fundamentally a "good person" who made a "stupid mistake" but they both felt he should resign anyway. His guests were supportive and I think the New York Times article (previous post) got it right. He said he would be on Al Sharpton's radio program and network at 1 pm eastern time today. For those not near a station, Sharpton can be heard at sharptalk.net. Al Sharpton was booked on Tuesday's show. The story is still unfolding but if Imus survives, it will be with a much tamer show. I think another pressure comes from the lawyers. Imus may be afraid of having the pants sued off him. Stay tuned. |
Imus Update
On Apr 9, 11:42 am, "ve3..." wrote:
I watched Imus this morning until 8:00 and he was quite rattled at times. He apologised profusely for his comments about the Rutgers team and indicated that his show would be more politically correct for the "next 4 or 5 years". He had spent much of the weekend consulting with Al Sharpton and the head of the First Baptist Church and they both agreed that he was fundamentally a "good person" who made a "stupid mistake" but they both felt he should resign anyway. His guests were supportive and I think the New York Times article (previous post) got it right. He said he would be on Al Sharpton's radio program and network at 1 pm eastern time today. For those not near a station, Sharpton can be heard at sharptalk.net. Al Sharpton was booked on Tuesday's show. The story is still unfolding but if Imus survives, it will be with a much tamer show. I think another pressure comes from the lawyers. Imus may be afraid of having the pants sued off him. Stay tuned. Yes, I heard bits of that rambling apology on the local news. I think he was taken to the woodshed over the weekend and told to clean it up. The last thing they need is some group threatening a boycott and then an FCC inquiry and a fine. I'm sure the Howard Stern record for fines is big in their minds. This may be what pushes Imus and his characters completely away from FCC regulated radio over to satellite radio. |
Imus Update
"Roadie" wrote in message ups.com... On Apr 9, 11:42 am, "ve3..." wrote: I watched Imus this morning until 8:00 and he was quite rattled at times. He apologised profusely for his comments about the Rutgers team and indicated that his show would be more politically correct for the "next 4 or 5 years". He had spent much of the weekend consulting with Al Sharpton and the head of the First Baptist Church and they both agreed that he was fundamentally a "good person" who made a "stupid mistake" but they both felt he should resign anyway. His guests were supportive and I think the New York Times article (previous post) got it right. He said he would be on Al Sharpton's radio program and network at 1 pm eastern time today. For those not near a station, Sharpton can be heard at sharptalk.net. Al Sharpton was booked on Tuesday's show. The story is still unfolding but if Imus survives, it will be with a much tamer show. I think another pressure comes from the lawyers. Imus may be afraid of having the pants sued off him. Stay tuned. Yes, I heard bits of that rambling apology on the local news. I think he was taken to the woodshed over the weekend and told to clean it up. The last thing they need is some group threatening a boycott and then an FCC inquiry and a fine. I'm sure the Howard Stern record for fines is big in their minds. This may be what pushes Imus and his characters completely away from FCC regulated radio over to satellite radio. The FCC has never, to the best of my knowlege, fined for anything other than indecency (descriptions that appeal to the prurient interest of sexual or excretory acts) or profanity (the F-word, for example...). It would take defining racist or politically incorrect speech as one of these to make it "finable" and would undoubtably bring First Ammendment issues galore. A boycott and a protest of the owners of the flagship station and its affiliates and their advertisers is the real threat, not the FCC. Stern was not finded for political or racial content... it was for indecency. Satellite is not content regulated, but the possibility of a boycott of a satellite company or of their advertisers or resellers is possible. |
Imus Update
On Apr 9, 12:07 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
Satellite is not content regulated, but the possibility of a boycott of a satellite company or of their advertisers or resellers is possible.- Hide quoted text - Err....yes, that possibility is indeed possible. If you check, I think you'll find that most possibilities are possible. That's why we call them "possibilities". |
Imus Update
"Steve" wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 9, 12:07 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: Satellite is not content regulated, but the possibility of a boycott of a satellite company or of their advertisers or resellers is possible.- Hide quoted text - Err....yes, that possibility is indeed possible. If you check, I think you'll find that most possibilities are possible. That's why we call them "possibilities". The point is that any action against Imus for terrestrial radio programs can be duplicated for satellite. At the same time, there is little or no regulatory pressure per the FCC rules that can be put on either medium... unless it went all the way to "fitness as a licensee" which has never been applied to content of this type (fitness has been applied to convicted felons and sex offenders, not to content). |
Imus Update
On Apr 9, 12:25 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 9, 12:07 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: Satellite is not content regulated, but the possibility of a boycott of a satellite company or of their advertisers or resellers is possible.- Hide quoted text - Err....yes, that possibility is indeed possible. If you check, I think you'll find that most possibilities are possible. That's why we call them "possibilities". The point is that any action against Imus for terrestrial radio programs can be duplicated for satellite. At the same time, there is little or no regulatory pressure per the FCC rules that can be put on either medium... unless it went all the way to "fitness as a licensee" which has never been applied to content of this type (fitness has been applied to convicted felons and sex offenders, not to content). This is consistent with the possibility of possibilities, is it not? |
Imus Update
On Apr 9, 12:07 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Roadie" wrote in message ups.com... On Apr 9, 11:42 am, "ve3..." wrote: I watched Imus this morning until 8:00 and he was quite rattled at times. He apologised profusely for his comments about the Rutgers team and indicated that his show would be more politically correct for the "next 4 or 5 years". He had spent much of the weekend consulting with Al Sharpton and the head of the First Baptist Church and they both agreed that he was fundamentally a "good person" who made a "stupid mistake" but they both felt he should resign anyway. His guests were supportive and I think the New York Times article (previous post) got it right. He said he would be on Al Sharpton's radio program and network at 1 pm eastern time today. For those not near a station, Sharpton can be heard at sharptalk.net. Al Sharpton was booked on Tuesday's show. The story is still unfolding but if Imus survives, it will be with a much tamer show. I think another pressure comes from the lawyers. Imus may be afraid of having the pants sued off him. Stay tuned. Yes, I heard bits of that rambling apology on the local news. I think he was taken to the woodshed over the weekend and told to clean it up. The last thing they need is some group threatening a boycott and then an FCC inquiry and a fine. I'm sure the Howard Stern record for fines is big in their minds. This may be what pushes Imus and his characters completely away from FCC regulated radio over to satellite radio. The FCC has never, to the best of my knowlege, fined for anything other than indecency (descriptions that appeal to the prurient interest of sexual or excretory acts) or profanity (the F-word, for example...). It would take defining racist or politically incorrect speech as one of these to make it "finable" and would undoubtably bring First Ammendment issues galore. A boycott and a protest of the owners of the flagship station and its affiliates and their advertisers is the real threat, not the FCC. Stern was not finded for political or racial content... it was for indecency. Satellite is not content regulated, but the possibility of a boycott of a satellite company or of their advertisers or resellers is possible. Yes, a boycott is indeed possible. If a boycott were only moderately successful it could push one or both money-losing satellite companies even further into the hole. As satellite radio continues to push the bounds of good taste and decency outward I think they increasingly invite a congressional reaction that would place the content of satellite broadcasts under FCC regulation. It is clear that broadcasts carried over traditional AM and FM stations are more similar than they are different from broadcasts carried over satellites. I suspect that if the FCC hinted that they were beginning an investigation that the station owners owners would become very concerned. And Imus would be jettisoned. |
Imus Update
"Steve" wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 9, 12:25 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 9, 12:07 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: Satellite is not content regulated, but the possibility of a boycott of a satellite company or of their advertisers or resellers is possible.- Hide quoted text - Err....yes, that possibility is indeed possible. If you check, I think you'll find that most possibilities are possible. That's why we call them "possibilities". The point is that any action against Imus for terrestrial radio programs can be duplicated for satellite. At the same time, there is little or no regulatory pressure per the FCC rules that can be put on either medium... unless it went all the way to "fitness as a licensee" which has never been applied to content of this type (fitness has been applied to convicted felons and sex offenders, not to content). This is consistent with the possibility of possibilities, is it not? Yeah, if this were alt.usage.english |
Imus Update
On Apr 9, 12:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 9, 12:25 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message groups.com... On Apr 9, 12:07 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: Satellite is not content regulated, but the possibility of a boycott of a satellite company or of their advertisers or resellers is possible.- Hide quoted text - Err....yes, that possibility is indeed possible. If you check, I think you'll find that most possibilities are possible. That's why we call them "possibilities". The point is that any action against Imus for terrestrial radio programs can be duplicated for satellite. At the same time, there is little or no regulatory pressure per the FCC rules that can be put on either medium... unless it went all the way to "fitness as a licensee" which has never been applied to content of this type (fitness has been applied to convicted felons and sex offenders, not to content). This is consistent with the possibility of possibilities, is it not? Yeah, if this were alt.usage.english- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You used the English language in your post, didn't you? |
Imus Update
On Apr 9, 12:44 pm, "Steve" wrote:
On Apr 9, 12:25 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message roups.com... On Apr 9, 12:07 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: Satellite is not content regulated, but the possibility of a boycott of a satellite company or of their advertisers or resellers is possible.- Hide quoted text - Err....yes, that possibility is indeed possible. If you check, I think you'll find that most possibilities are possible. That's why we call them "possibilities". The point is that any action against Imus for terrestrial radio programs can be duplicated for satellite. At the same time, there is little or no regulatory pressure per the FCC rules that can be put on either medium... unless it went all the way to "fitness as a licensee" which has never been applied to content of this type (fitness has been applied to convicted felons and sex offenders, not to content). This is consistent with the possibility of possibilities, is it not?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, and I'm certain that it's consistent with the possibility for redundancy of possible redundancies too. |
Imus Update
On Apr 9, 1:15 pm, "Roadie" wrote:
Yes, and I'm certain that it's consistent with the possibility for redundancy of possible redundancies too.- Hide quoted text - - You can say that again! |
Imus Update
Steve wrote: On Apr 9, 12:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 9, 12:25 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message groups.com... On Apr 9, 12:07 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: Satellite is not content regulated, but the possibility of a boycott of a satellite company or of their advertisers or resellers is possible.- Hide quoted text - Err....yes, that possibility is indeed possible. If you check, I think you'll find that most possibilities are possible. That's why we call them "possibilities". The point is that any action against Imus for terrestrial radio programs can be duplicated for satellite. At the same time, there is little or no regulatory pressure per the FCC rules that can be put on either medium... unless it went all the way to "fitness as a licensee" which has never been applied to content of this type (fitness has been applied to convicted felons and sex offenders, not to content). This is consistent with the possibility of possibilities, is it not? Yeah, if this were alt.usage.english- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You used the English language in your post, didn't you? It sure wasn't the Spanin language. |
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On Apr 9, 8:54 pm, wrote:
Don Imus is suspended,gets two weeks off.According to article atwww.drudgereport.com cuhulin "''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''' The 2-week suspension starts on Monday 16. There was an earlier report that Al Sharpton would appear on Imas' program on Tuesday 10th. Jesse Jackson has entered the fray in Chicago: Jackson is very good at getting corporations to "pay up" as atonement and protection so the stakes are getting higher. The National Organization of Women (NOW) is demanding his firing or else. The whole thing reminds me of "The Bonfire of the Vanities" by Wolfe, a book well worth reading in view of the Imus brougha. I don't know about US law, but British and Canadian law allows lawsuit for slander. The only defence is that the defendent spoke the truth. Imagine the detective work that would be needed to prove that Imus' slander was true. |
Imus Update
On Apr 9, 8:54 pm, wrote:
Don Imus is suspended,gets two weeks off.According to article atwww.drudgereport.com cuhulin """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """"""""""""""" Toda's Imus show (Tuesday) featured several guests who gave testimonials about Imus' good works and a NBC piece that presented Al Sharpton, who still thinks that Imus should be fired. MSNBC will be at Rutgers at 11 am to cover the apology attempt there. I got MSNBC several years ago to listen to the Imus show, which, as a Canadian, I knew nothing about. I wanted to hear plain speaking about issues of the day and not the carefully crafted set pieces of the pr people. I thought Imus would be blunt and ask the awkward questions. Over the years, I got tired of the same old faces of a small in- group of politicos and media people who all seemed to hang out around 72 street and lunch at Elaines. What is worse, I watched an irascible old shock jock lash out at people who couldn't fight back. I am thinking of regular attacks on Sid Rosenburg and Chris Carlin as well as a young woman from MSNBC that he attacked in public and drove off the show. Hubris http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/hubris is an exaggerated self confidence that eventually brings about fatal retribution. "Men think that by ill-treating others they make their own superiority the greater."...Aristotle. This whole uproar is over a racial slur made by a man affected by hubris. Times have changed and this sort of thing is no longer acceptable in US society, It is even illegal in Canada and Europe and may trigger speech laws in the US. It also has a bearing on the conduct of rec.radio.shortwave, where insults, racial slurs and slander is the order of the day. This may be an opportunity to clean up the act. There may be limits to free speech. All in all, I agree with Sharpton. Imus has done this several times before, apologised, and done it again. He is not so big and powerful that he can't be brought down. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. |
Imus Update
In article . com,
"ve3..." wrote: On Apr 9, 8:54 pm, wrote: Don Imus is suspended,gets two weeks off.According to article atwww.drudgereport.com cuhulin """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """"""""""""""" Toda's Imus show (Tuesday) featured several guests who gave testimonials about Imus' good works and a NBC piece that presented Al Sharpton, who still thinks that Imus should be fired. MSNBC will be at Rutgers at 11 am to cover the apology attempt there. I got MSNBC several years ago to listen to the Imus show, which, as a Canadian, I knew nothing about. I wanted to hear plain speaking about issues of the day and not the carefully crafted set pieces of the pr people. I thought Imus would be blunt and ask the awkward questions. Over the years, I got tired of the same old faces of a small in- group of politicos and media people who all seemed to hang out around 72 street and lunch at Elaines. What is worse, I watched an irascible old shock jock lash out at people who couldn't fight back. I am thinking of regular attacks on Sid Rosenburg and Chris Carlin as well as a young woman from MSNBC that he attacked in public and drove off the show. Hubris http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/hubris is an exaggerated self confidence that eventually brings about fatal retribution. "Men think that by ill-treating others they make their own superiority the greater."...Aristotle. This whole uproar is over a racial slur made by a man affected by hubris. Times have changed and this sort of thing is no longer acceptable in US society, It drives the biggest morning show in LA. on KFI. It is even illegal in Canada and Europe and may trigger speech laws in the US. Not in the USA. It also has a bearing on the conduct of rec.radio.shortwave, where insults, racial slurs and slander is the order of the day. This may be an opportunity to clean up the act. Not a chance. There may be limits to free speech. Not here. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Imus Update
"Telamon" wrote in message ... This whole uproar is over a racial slur made by a man affected by hubris. Times have changed and this sort of thing is no longer acceptable in US society, It drives the biggest morning show in LA. on KFI. KFI is NOT the "biggest morning show in LA." |
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"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article . com, There may be limits to free speech. Not here. -- There have always been limits to free speech, even in the US. Most often these have been limits on the rights of people that the majority find offensive. Our government has, for decades, been whittling away at the guarantees the founding fathers wrote into the Constitution (it has been a totally bipartisan effort, and much of it with the blessing of the very body that was put into place to protect us from ourselves: the Supreme Court. |
Imus Update
"ve3..." wrote: On Apr 9, 8:54 pm, wrote: Don Imus is suspended,gets two weeks off.According to article atwww.drudgereport.com cuhulin """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """"""""""""""" Toda's Imus show (Tuesday) featured several guests who gave testimonials about Imus' good works and a NBC piece that presented Al Sharpton, who still thinks that Imus should be fired. MSNBC will be at Rutgers at 11 am to cover the apology attempt there. I got MSNBC several years ago to listen to the Imus show, which, as a Canadian, I knew nothing about. I wanted to hear plain speaking about issues of the day and not the carefully crafted set pieces of the pr people. I thought Imus would be blunt and ask the awkward questions. Over the years, I got tired of the same old faces of a small in- group of politicos and media people who all seemed to hang out around 72 street and lunch at Elaines. What is worse, I watched an irascible old shock jock lash out at people who couldn't fight back. I am thinking of regular attacks on Sid Rosenburg and Chris Carlin as well as a young woman from MSNBC that he attacked in public and drove off the show. Hubris http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/hubris is an exaggerated self confidence that eventually brings about fatal retribution. "Men think that by ill-treating others they make their own superiority the greater."...Aristotle. This whole uproar is over a racial slur made by a man affected by hubris. Times have changed and this sort of thing is no longer acceptable in US society, It is even illegal in Canada and Europe and may trigger speech laws in the US. It would almost seem that being intelligent is illegal in CanaDuh. |
(OT) : Must Be A Slow News Year in Canada . . .
On Apr 9, 8:42 am, "ve3..." wrote:
I watched Imus this morning until 8:00 and he was quite rattled at times. He apologised profusely for his comments about the Rutgers team and indicated that his show would be more politically correct for the "next 4 or 5 years". He had spent much of the weekend consulting with Al Sharpton and the head of the First Baptist Church and they both agreed that he was fundamentally a "good person" who made a "stupid mistake" but they both felt he should resign anyway. His guests were supportive and I think the New York Times article (previous post) got it right. He said he would be on Al Sharpton's radio program and network at 1 pm eastern time today. For those not near a station, Sharpton can be heard at sharptalk.net. Al Sharpton was booked on Tuesday's show. The story is still unfolding but if Imus survives, it will be with a much tamer show. I think another pressure comes from the lawyers. Imus may be afraid of having the pants sued off him. Stay tuned. VE3, Must be a Slow News Year in Canada : Seeing that you have to comment on Current Events in the USofA. now go watch the snow melt :o) ~ RHF |
(OT) : Has "Freedom" Become Just Another Word in Canada and Europe ? ? ?
On Apr 10, 8:55 pm, Telamon
wrote: In article . com, "ve3..." wrote: On Apr 9, 8:54 pm, wrote: Don Imus is suspended,gets two weeks off.According to article atwww.drudgereport.com cuhulin """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """"""""""""""" Toda's Imus show (Tuesday) featured several guests who gave testimonials about Imus' good works and a NBC piece that presented Al Sharpton, who still thinks that Imus should be fired. MSNBC will be at Rutgers at 11 am to cover the apology attempt there. I got MSNBC several years ago to listen to the Imus show, which, as a Canadian, I knew nothing about. I wanted to hear plain speaking about issues of the day and not the carefully crafted set pieces of the pr people. I thought Imus would be blunt and ask the awkward questions. Over the years, I got tired of the same old faces of a small in- group of politicos and media people who all seemed to hang out around 72 street and lunch at Elaines. What is worse, I watched an irascible old shock jock lash out at people who couldn't fight back. I am thinking of regular attacks on Sid Rosenburg and Chris Carlin as well as a young woman from MSNBC that he attacked in public and drove off the show. Hubris http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/hubris is an exaggerated self confidence that eventually brings about fatal retribution. "Men think that by ill-treating others they make their own superiority the greater."...Aristotle. This whole uproar is over a racial slur made by a man affected by hubris. Times have changed and this sort of thing is no longer acceptable in US society, It drives the biggest morning show in LA. on KFI. It is even illegal in Canada and Europe and may trigger speech laws in the US. Not in the USA. It also has a bearing on the conduct of rec.radio.shortwave, where insults, racial slurs and slander is the order of the day. This may be an opportunity to clean up the act. Not a chance. There may be limits to free speech. Not here. -- Telamon Ventura, California- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Telamon, It would seem that "Freedom" {of Speech and Expression} has become just another Word in Canada and Europe. Hate Speech = Hate Think = Big Sister Be Everywhere ! The Great American Right To Be Silent ! - - - So No One Will Know How Stupid and Dumb You Are. [ Hummm . . . May Be I Should Take My Own Advise. ] don imus - america's king-for-a-day of stupid-and-dumb -but- in america we love our all-america-heroes -and- less-than-perfect-anti-heroes ~ RHF |
(OT) : Must Be A Slow News Year in Canada . . .
On Apr 11, 5:20 am, "RHF" wrote:
Must be a Slow News Year in Canada : Seeing that you have to comment on Current Events in the USofA. now go watch the snow melt :o) ~ RHF . . . .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
Imus Update
Like that guy who played the part of an Aircraft Engineer told James
Stewart in the movie,The Flight of the Phoenix. cuhulin |
(OT) : Must Be A Slow News Year in Canada . . .
On Apr 11, 10:37 am, "ve3..." wrote:
On Apr 11, 5:20 am, "RHF" wrote: Must be a Slow News Year in Canada : Seeing that you have to comment on Current Events in the USofA. now go watch the snow melt :o) ~ RHF """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""" A curious post...what's your point? Actually I pay 99 cents a month for MSNBC and I like to keep an eye on my investment. |
(OT) : Must Be A Slow News Year in Canada . . .
FREEDOM isn't free.It takes Fighting and Bleeding and Dieing to have
FREEDOM. cuhulin |
(OT) : Must Be A Slow News Year in Canada . . .
"RHF" wrote in message ups.com... On Apr 9, 8:42 am, "ve3..." wrote: I watched Imus this morning until 8:00 and he was quite rattled at times. He apologised profusely for his comments about the Rutgers team and indicated that his show would be more politically correct for the "next 4 or 5 years". He had spent much of the weekend consulting with Al Sharpton and the head of the First Baptist Church and they both agreed that he was fundamentally a "good person" who made a "stupid mistake" but they both felt he should resign anyway. His guests were supportive and I think the New York Times article (previous post) got it right. He said he would be on Al Sharpton's radio program and network at 1 pm eastern time today. For those not near a station, Sharpton can be heard at sharptalk.net. Al Sharpton was booked on Tuesday's show. The story is still unfolding but if Imus survives, it will be with a much tamer show. I think another pressure comes from the lawyers. Imus may be afraid of having the pants sued off him. Stay tuned. VE3, Must be a Slow News Year in Canada : Seeing that you have to comment on Current Events in the USofA. now go watch the snow melt :o) ~ RHF . Canada shuts down for the next 2 months. It's time for the Stanley Cup Playoffs!!!! It's the most wonderful time of the year!!! |
Imus Update
"David Eduardo" wrote in message t... "Telamon" wrote in message ... This whole uproar is over a racial slur made by a man affected by hubris. Times have changed and this sort of thing is no longer acceptable in US society, It drives the biggest morning show in LA. on KFI. KFI is NOT the "biggest morning show in LA." Verifying data, KFI has not been #1 in the morning (6 AM to 9 AM) in any ratings book in the last two years... 2005 and 2006. It's amusing how you cite ratings when convenient, but reject them when you can not defend your personal agenda. |
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Boeing? Hows it going with Boeing Aircraft's Stupid idea of developing
and building and selling Aircars? I once emailed Boeing Aircraft about that and I told them they should stick with building Airplanes.I never did get a reply from them though. cuhulin |
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I don't know which radio station in California/San Francisco area is the
biggest/most popular,but I think (only thinking here) KOGO (if that's the one I am thinking about?) in the San Francisco is very popular over there.Isn't that the radio station The Babe in the Bunker (Barbara Simpson) broadcast from? cuhulin |
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On Apr 11, 11:07 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in message t... "Telamon" wrote in message ... This whole uproar is over a racial slur made by a man affected by hubris. Times have changed and this sort of thing is no longer acceptable in US society, It drives the biggest morning show in LA. on KFI. KFI is NOT the "biggest morning show in LA." Verifying data, KFI has not been #1 in the morning (6 AM to 9 AM) in any ratings book in the last two years... 2005 and 2006. It's amusing how you cite ratings when convenient, but reject them when you can not defend your personal agenda. What? You sound unhappy David and far from amused. What's the matter? Did baby go poopies? |
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In article .com,
"Steve" wrote: On Apr 11, 11:07 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "David Eduardo" wrote in message t... "Telamon" wrote in message . .. This whole uproar is over a racial slur made by a man affected by hubris. Times have changed and this sort of thing is no longer acceptable in US society, It drives the biggest morning show in LA. on KFI. KFI is NOT the "biggest morning show in LA." Verifying data, KFI has not been #1 in the morning (6 AM to 9 AM) in any ratings book in the last two years... 2005 and 2006. It's amusing how you cite ratings when convenient, but reject them when you can not defend your personal agenda. What? You sound unhappy David and far from amused. What's the matter? Did baby go poopies? Well, the BS that comes from him has to go somewhere. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Imus Update
"Steve" wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 11, 11:07 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "David Eduardo" wrote in message t... "Telamon" wrote in message ... This whole uproar is over a racial slur made by a man affected by hubris. Times have changed and this sort of thing is no longer acceptable in US society, It drives the biggest morning show in LA. on KFI. KFI is NOT the "biggest morning show in LA." Verifying data, KFI has not been #1 in the morning (6 AM to 9 AM) in any ratings book in the last two years... 2005 and 2006. It's amusing how you cite ratings when convenient, but reject them when you can not defend your personal agenda. What? You sound unhappy David and far from amused. What's the matter? Did baby go poopies? No, it's simply a commentary on Tellie's double standard. When I cite facts, he calls them lies... when he makes a whopper of a lie, it is ok. |
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"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article .com, "Steve" wrote: On Apr 11, 11:07 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "David Eduardo" wrote in message t... "Telamon" wrote in message . .. This whole uproar is over a racial slur made by a man affected by hubris. Times have changed and this sort of thing is no longer acceptable in US society, It drives the biggest morning show in LA. on KFI. KFI is NOT the "biggest morning show in LA." Verifying data, KFI has not been #1 in the morning (6 AM to 9 AM) in any ratings book in the last two years... 2005 and 2006. It's amusing how you cite ratings when convenient, but reject them when you can not defend your personal agenda. What? You sound unhappy David and far from amused. What's the matter? Did baby go poopies? Well, the BS that comes from him has to go somewhere. You might start by rectifying the lie about KFI. |
Imus Update
In article ,
"Brenda Ann" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article . com, There may be limits to free speech. Not here. -- There have always been limits to free speech, even in the US. Most often these have been limits on the rights of people that the majority find offensive. Our government has, for decades, been whittling away at the guarantees the founding fathers wrote into the Constitution (it has been a totally bipartisan effort, and much of it with the blessing of the very body that was put into place to protect us from ourselves: the Supreme Court. I don't think that's what he meant. He meant hate speech or speech that you don't agree with. You just can't use curse words. You can use racial slurs, disgusting descriptions of people as long as you don't use curse words. You can offer crass and baseless opinions. We have very loose limits on what can be said such as a short list of words, saying you want to kill someone or inciting the overthrow of the government is about it. The limits he described go far beyond those limitations and he gave examples of restrictions in Canada and other nations that will not happen here. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Imus Update
On Apr 11, 9:40 pm, Telamon
wrote: In article , "Brenda Ann" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article . com, There may be limits to free speech. Not here. -- There have always been limits to free speech, even in the US. Most often these have been limits on the rights of people that the majority find offensive. Our government has, for decades, been whittling away at the guarantees the founding fathers wrote into the Constitution (it has been a totally bipartisan effort, and much of it with the blessing of the very body that was put into place to protect us from ourselves: the Supreme Court. I don't think that's what he meant. He meant hate speech or speech that you don't agree with. You just can't use curse words. You can use racial slurs, disgusting descriptions of people as long as you don't use curse words. You can offer crass and baseless opinions. We have very loose limits on what can be said such as a short list of words, saying you want to kill someone or inciting the overthrow of the government is about it. The limits he described go far beyond those limitations and he gave examples of restrictions in Canada and other nations that will not happen here. -- Telamon Ventura, California """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """"""" The main limit to free speech is the consequences. You may have the legal right under the constitution to free speech, but you may lose your job, lose your business, or be listed as a possible threat by Homeland Security and denied the right to fly. |
Imus Update
David Eduardo wrote: "Steve" wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 11, 11:07 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "David Eduardo" wrote in message t... "Telamon" wrote in message ... This whole uproar is over a racial slur made by a man affected by hubris. Times have changed and this sort of thing is no longer acceptable in US society, It drives the biggest morning show in LA. on KFI. KFI is NOT the "biggest morning show in LA." Verifying data, KFI has not been #1 in the morning (6 AM to 9 AM) in any ratings book in the last two years... 2005 and 2006. It's amusing how you cite ratings when convenient, but reject them when you can not defend your personal agenda. What? You sound unhappy David and far from amused. What's the matter? Did baby go poopies? No, it's simply a commentary on Tellie's double standard. When I cite facts, he calls them lies... when he makes a whopper of a lie, it is ok. Damn! Mr. Pathological, you are funny! |
Imus Update
On Apr 11, 9:35 pm, "ve3..." wrote:
On Apr 11, 9:40 pm, Telamon wrote: In article , "Brenda Ann" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article . com, There may be limits to free speech. Not here. -- There have always been limits to free speech, even in the US. Most often these have been limits on the rights of people that the majority find offensive. Our government has, for decades, been whittling away at the guarantees the founding fathers wrote into the Constitution (it has been a totally bipartisan effort, and much of it with the blessing of the very body that was put into place to protect us from ourselves: the Supreme Court. I don't think that's what he meant. He meant hate speech or speech that you don't agree with. You just can't use curse words. You can use racial slurs, disgusting descriptions of people as long as you don't use curse words. You can offer crass and baseless opinions. We have very loose limits on what can be said such as a short list of words, saying you want to kill someone or inciting the overthrow of the government is about it. The limits he described go far beyond those limitations and he gave examples of restrictions in Canada and other nations that will not happen here. -- Telamon Ventura, California """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """"""" The main limit to free speech is the consequences. You may have the legal right under the constitution to free speech, but you may lose your job, lose your business, or be listed as a possible threat by Homeland Security and denied the right to fly.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - VE3 - Say the Wrong Thing 'Up-In' Somebody's Face -and- You Could Lose Your Teeth \uuu*uu/ ~ RHF |
Imus Update
The only thing that I've ever really heard coming from Sharpton's mouth is
black and white. Our side against their side. I think the first thing this guy does in the morning when he gets up is to draw a line down the middle of the world, their side and not their side. Give us all a break "ve3..." wrote in message ups.com... I watched Imus this morning until 8:00 and he was quite rattled at times. He apologised profusely for his comments about the Rutgers team and indicated that his show would be more politically correct for the "next 4 or 5 years". He had spent much of the weekend consulting with Al Sharpton and the head of the First Baptist Church and they both agreed that he was fundamentally a "good person" who made a "stupid mistake" but they both felt he should resign anyway. His guests were supportive and I think the New York Times article (previous post) got it right. He said he would be on Al Sharpton's radio program and network at 1 pm eastern time today. For those not near a station, Sharpton can be heard at sharptalk.net. Al Sharpton was booked on Tuesday's show. The story is still unfolding but if Imus survives, it will be with a much tamer show. I think another pressure comes from the lawyers. Imus may be afraid of having the pants sued off him. Stay tuned. |
Imus Update
For the record, Imus was fired from CBS on Thursday. He attended a
private meetitng with the basketball team held at the NJ governor's mansion. |
Imus Update
"ve3..." wrote in message oups.com... For the record, Imus was fired from CBS on Thursday. He attended a private meetitng with the basketball team held at the NJ governor's mansion. I heard the Gov was in a car crash, in critical. |
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