On May 21, 4:48 pm, "Vendicar Decarian"
wrote:
"Cato" wrote

Scientific consensus??

Yup...

"Cato" wrote

Scientific Consensus is NOT a synonym of "Certain Truth".

No, it's synonymous of virtually certain truth.

Scientific revolution is exceptionally rare

"Cato" wrote

But when the scientific expertise to judge a scientific position is
lacking,
they're going to rely on the Consensus.

Wrong again. ****Licker.

Scientific Consensus applies all the way down to the most base facts such
as 1+1=2.

The consensus view that 1+1=2 is still not proven in any absolute sense.

"Cato" wrote

Consensus is a collective opinion.

Correct. And collective opinions hold far, far more weight than the vapid
assertions of Carbon Industry Shills, paid warming denialists, and
uneducated fools.

"Cato" wrote

"Scientific consensus" can be wrong. It is NOT scientific evidence.

No, but the consensus view is based on scientific evidence. And yes it
can be wrong, but very rarely so.

Now which to believe? The collective wisdom, and best opinion by the vast
majority of the worlds scientists? Or the constantly shifting, grasp at any
straw, pronouncements of a small band of industry shills?

Hmmmm Gee... I wonder.... Science or snake oil.

Who knows. Maybe the snake oil really is a cure all.

Right?

(OT) : Yes You Too Can Be The First In Your Neighborhood
To Have An Al Gore Carbon Credit's Card !
- - - Financed by US Tax Dollars -and-
at the Expense of the US Tax Payers

VD - So are you the un-official apologist for Al Gore ?
Or actually a Paid Agent of the Democrat Party of the USA ?

If you are so keen on Carbon Credits... Then Hold-your-Breath
until Al Gore is re-elected to something important.

-if- i sound rich and phony - it's cause . . .
i am trying to sound just like al gore ~ RHF

D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:

RHF wrote:

On May 21, 4:36 pm, "Vendicar Decarian"
wrote:
"K Isham" wrote

I'm confused, how does buying a Carbon Credit eliminate air pollution?
You issue credits for the production of x tonnes of Carbon, and then allow
the marketplace to decide how to best emit that carbon and maximize economic
dollar output at the same time under the new constratint.

"K Isham" wrote

I read about how Al Gore explained how buying Carbon credits minimized his
"Carbon Footprint' when explaining why it takes $20,000 a month to
electrify his home.
To my knowledge Gore hasn't claimed to have purchased any carbon credits.
He has claimed to have purched carbon offsets. These are completely
different.

Carbon offsets, are basically a contract entered into with another company
to engange in activities that will reduce carbon emissions, or sequester the
carbon emissions equivalent to some component of your carbon emissions. In
Gore's case, the emissions resulting from his home energy use.

Oh, and Gore wasn't paying 20,000 a month to electify his home. Where did
you get that nonsense number?

And his Home isn't a home either, it includes 3 offices, his own, one for
his wife, the secret service, and of course rooms for guests, employees and
those secret service agents as well. And he has occupied it for less than a
year.
(OT) : Yes You Too Can Be The First In Your Neighborhood
To Have An Al Gore Carbon Credit's Card !

VD - So are you the un-official apologist for Al Gore ?
Or actually a Paid Agent of the Democrat Party of the USA ?

More than likely just another dumbass Canuck. It's springtime, and the little
*******s get to run around for a few weeks.



Or as my ex-used to say, "all the little gonads have come out to play."

She didn't care for shortwave radio, either.

Heck, shortwave is always fun. Women come, and women go. Shortwave radio hardly ever
complains and is relatively easy on the wallet.

dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:
RHF wrote:

On May 21, 4:36 pm, "Vendicar Decarian"
wrote:
"K Isham" wrote

I'm confused, how does buying a Carbon Credit eliminate air pollution?
You issue credits for the production of x tonnes of Carbon, and then allow
the marketplace to decide how to best emit that carbon and maximize economic
dollar output at the same time under the new constratint.

"K Isham" wrote

I read about how Al Gore explained how buying Carbon credits minimized his
"Carbon Footprint' when explaining why it takes $20,000 a month to
electrify his home.
To my knowledge Gore hasn't claimed to have purchased any carbon credits.
He has claimed to have purched carbon offsets. These are completely
different.

Carbon offsets, are basically a contract entered into with another company
to engange in activities that will reduce carbon emissions, or sequester the
carbon emissions equivalent to some component of your carbon emissions. In
Gore's case, the emissions resulting from his home energy use.

Oh, and Gore wasn't paying 20,000 a month to electify his home. Where did
you get that nonsense number?

And his Home isn't a home either, it includes 3 offices, his own, one for
his wife, the secret service, and of course rooms for guests, employees and
those secret service agents as well. And he has occupied it for less than a
year.
(OT) : Yes You Too Can Be The First In Your Neighborhood
To Have An Al Gore Carbon Credit's Card !

VD - So are you the un-official apologist for Al Gore ?
Or actually a Paid Agent of the Democrat Party of the USA ?
More than likely just another dumbass Canuck. It's springtime, and the little
*******s get to run around for a few weeks.


Or as my ex-used to say, "all the little gonads have come out to play."

She didn't care for shortwave radio, either.

Heck, shortwave is always fun. Women come, and women go. Shortwave radio hardly ever
complains and is relatively easy on the wallet.


Actually, I like the Howard Hughes approach...it's cheaper to buy an
airline.

On May 21, 4:54 pm, "Vendicar Decarian"
wrote:
"Cato" wrote

You want to bankrupt the western nations?

Listen to the economic chicken little crying that the sky will fall.

In reality, estimates of economic impact show a .2% decline in economic
output to solve this problem at worst to a 2% rise in economic output due to
increases in fuel consumptive efficiencies.

"Cato" wrote

Because that is what it would take. And even then, the way Kyoto
is set up, it won't amount to a hill of beans as far as stopping
Global Warming.

Correct, it is the first step of many that are needed to reduce global
emissions by around 70% and AmeriKKKan emisions around 85-95%

Can't live with that? Too bad. Your choice is live within your
constraints, or die.

"Cato" wrote

Socialists!

And now the cocksucker devolves into partisain politics. Science means
nothing to pieces of **** like Cato. Their KKKonservative Politics trumps
reality every time in their dung filled brains.

"Cato" wrote

God they never quit in their quest to place more
and more control over our lives, and gain political control for
themselves.

Capitulate or die Cato.. Capitulate or die.

(OT) : Yes You Too Can Be The First In Your Neighborhood
To Have An Al Gore Carbon Credit's Card !
- - - Financed by US Tax Dollars -and-
at the Expense of the US Tax Payers

VD - So are you the un-official apologist for Al Gore ?
Or actually a Paid Agent of the Democrat Party of the USA ?

VD - Most likely a Paid-in-Fool Agent of the
Democrat Party of the USA ? -cause-

# 1 - The Liberal {Northern} Democrats always like
to Spell the Words 'America' and 'American' with
the Capital Letters "KKK" instead of a 'c' as you
have done "AmeriKKKan".

# 2 - "KKKonservative" form of Race Baiting Coded Spelling
and Hate Speech use by the Liberal {Northern} Democrats.

VD - Like the use of the word "NAZI" in a Debate the
Letters "KKK" have the same import for Americans.
- - - YOU LOSE [.]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law

If you are so keen on Carbon Credits... Then Hold-your-Breath
until Al Gore is re-elected to something really important.

-if- i sound rich and phony - it's cause . . .
i am trying to sound just like al gore ~ RHF

On May 21, 5:06 pm, "Vendicar Decarian"
wrote:
"Wolfowitz Mass Murder for OIL"
wrote

How long does it take to accept a crystal clear reality: Paul
Wolfowitz is not a leader, but someone better suited for a
professional data crunching job in which he is not a policymaker,
analyst or decision maker.

Wolfowitz is a single pustule in a bad case of achne. In any civilized
nation he would be unemployeble since he is incapable of learning from his
past mistakes and since he is completely corrupt.

I wouldn't hire Wolfowitz to flip burgers since I can not trust him to avoid
spitting on the grill.

VD -if- I wanted your 'opinion' I'd ask Hillary ! )

(OT) : "VD" Has Arrived At A NewsGroup Near You !

obtw - some how the initials 'vd' fit you to a tutu ~ RHF
then again 'vd' could stand for 'violently disturbed'.

On May 21, 5:12 pm, "Vendicar Decarian"
wrote:
"Cato" wrote

Cato responds: I am not sure how you missed all the talk
about the Global Cooling back then. Ya, it was in all the major
magazines and newspapers.

I remember Libertarian fools like Lowell Ponte trying to sell the story

But you know Libertarians... Completely and perpetually incompetent,
ignorant and corrupt to the core.

"Cato" wrote

Discussions on radio talk shows etc.

Wow, there is scientific evidence for you.

"Cato" wrote

But then... I have notice how some people's memories seem
to be very selective when their memories don't agree with their
present beliefs or political goals.

Ya we notice that about you denialists all the time. Now can you find us
three references to peer reviewed journal articles from the period that
warned of an imminent onset of an ice age?

We have been asking you Lying ****Tards to provide just three references
for the last 15 years, and so far you haven't been able to provide one.

That makes you a liar, a fool, or both, in my books.

(OT) : VD Is Speading . . . {Democrat Party Lies}
VD - Al Gore's Global Warming Comic Books
-arn't really- Books -butt- enjoy the pictures . . .

VD - Better to be "Libertarian Fools" : Then one more
Outright Lying Democrat [.] ~ RHF

VD - Preach that Democrat Party of the USA
party line about Libertarians being Fools.
Spread the Lies !
Spread the Propaganda !
Spread the Hate !

In article ,
"Vendicar Decarian" wrote:

"K Isham" wrote

snip

Another nut case for the kill file.

Plonk

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

RHF ) writes:

Here's another clue bozo. If it's cross-posted, don't respond either.

That's in addition to not responding because it's off-topic.

You are now right up there with the village idiot in qualifying for
most damaging to rec.radio.shortwave

I hope you're happy, because I'm sick of it.

Michael

"Cato" wrote
In my book,

You have no book, you are an illiterate, scum sucking, moron.

As are all Libertarians by the way.


"Cato" wrote
anybody that lowers themselves to the level of sewer scum
by using filthy dusgusting language

Cato doesn't mind his fellow Libertairians promoting child molestation as
long as they don't discribe the cock sucking and buggery.


"Cato" wrote
Decarian obviously has a very limited and disgusting vocabulary.

Cato would rather complain than think about the issues raised about his
immorality, corruption and ignorance.

How typically Libertarian of him.



"Cato" wrote
I can just picture Vendicar Decarian with his
mouth hanging open and stinky watery diarrhea with little chunky bits
spewing out of his mouth.

No doubt the scatalogical images you have just fabricated for yourslef
turn you on.

Libertarian Pedophiles are common enough, your Scatalogical preferences
are hardly surprising.


"Cato" wrote
Cato responds: I am not sure how you missed all the talk
about the Global Cooling back then. Ya, it was in all the major
magazines and newspapers.

I remember Libertarian fools like Lowell Ponte trying to sell the story

But you know Libertarians... Completely and perpetually incompetent,
ignorant and corrupt to the core.

"Cato" wrote
Discussions on radio talk shows etc.

Wow, there is scientific evidence for you.


"Cato" wrote
But then... I have notice how some people's memories seem
to be very selective when their memories don't agree with their
present beliefs or political goals.

Ya we notice that about you denialists all the time. Now can you find us
three references to peer reviewed journal articles from the period that
warned of an imminent onset of an ice age?

We have been asking you Lying ****Tards to provide just three references
for the last 15 years, and so far you haven't been able to provide one.

That makes you a liar, a fool, or both, in my books.

"dxAce" wrote
May must be the time for the hatching of the 'tards up in CanaDuh.
I'm LMFAO here!

15 more Dead AmeriKKKans this weekend in Iraq several years after the
AmeriKKKan VP lied to the AmeriKKKan publiKKK and claimed that the
resistance was in it's death throws.

I'm laughing my ass off here.

More AmeriKKKan death to come.

Excellent.