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On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:24:31 -0400, BDK wrote:

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That's the "Buy it now", not the reserve.

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:18:04 -0400, "Paul Zak" wrote:

$700 reserve price, wow!

Still too high, I paid less than that for a nearly mint Kenwood TS-
850sat recently.

First, it's none of your business what the seller asks -- if you don't like it,
don't bid on it.

LOL, you need to relax, and calm down. I'm assuming you're the seller
maybe? If not sit down and chill a little.


Secondly, "too high" depends on whether or not it sells at that price, not your
(or my) opinion.

Please get a life. If you aren't the seller, why are you so upset?


Thirdly, the price of one Kenwood has very little to do with the value of a
different model.

Since the TS850S is a much better receiver than a R5000 (if you dispute
that, well, it's your opinion alone, for the most part), AND has a 100
watt transmitter in the same box, it should be worth more.

I've owned 2 R5000's. Nice audio, but $700 is just not a realistic price
for a 20 year old, or close to it, receiver that runs very hot on AC
power.

BDK


-- Larry

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:14:57 -0400, BDK wrote:

First, it's none of your business what the seller asks -- if you don't like it,
don't bid on it.

LOL, you need to relax, and calm down. I'm assuming you're the seller
maybe? If not sit down and chill a little.

I have no idea who the seller is. I'm just sick of all the price cops who go
hand-in-hand with all the USEnet cops. What someone asks for an item is nobody's
business but his own. If it's too high, it won't sell. Period.

Since the TS850S is a much better receiver than a R5000 (if you dispute
that, well, it's your opinion alone, for the most part), AND has a 100
watt transmitter in the same box, it should be worth more.

Possibly not to someone who wants only a receiver.

I've owned 2 R5000's. Nice audio, but $700 is just not a realistic price
for a 20 year old, or close to it, receiver that runs very hot on AC
power.

That might be true -- but so what? Is it your mission to save the suckers of the
world?

If so, why not start right here in Washington DC? I can introduce you to
thousands of them...

-- Larry

In article ,
says...
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:14:57 -0400, BDK wrote:

First, it's none of your business what the seller asks -- if you don't like it,
don't bid on it.

LOL, you need to relax, and calm down. I'm assuming you're the seller
maybe? If not sit down and chill a little.

I have no idea who the seller is. I'm just sick of all the price cops who go
hand-in-hand with all the USEnet cops. What someone asks for an item is nobody's
business but his own. If it's too high, it won't sell. Period.

Aww, isn't that too bad. I guess I should be slapped for commenting..


Since the TS850S is a much better receiver than a R5000 (if you dispute
that, well, it's your opinion alone, for the most part), AND has a 100
watt transmitter in the same box, it should be worth more.

Possibly not to someone who wants only a receiver.

Well, that might be true, but it seems a pretty weak argument.


I've owned 2 R5000's. Nice audio, but $700 is just not a realistic price
for a 20 year old, or close to it, receiver that runs very hot on AC
power.

That might be true -- but so what? Is it your mission to save the suckers of the
world?

What is wrong with you? I just made a comment on the price. Sheesh, I
think someone needs a nap.


If so, why not start right here in Washington DC? I can introduce you to
thousands of them...

I'm sure you can.

BDK


-- Larry

BDK wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:24:31 -0400, BDK wrote:

In article ,
says...
That's the "Buy it now", not the reserve.

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:18:04 -0400, "Paul Zak" wrote:

$700 reserve price, wow!

Still too high, I paid less than that for a nearly mint Kenwood TS-
850sat recently.

First, it's none of your business what the seller asks -- if you don't like it,
don't bid on it.

LOL, you need to relax, and calm down. I'm assuming you're the seller
maybe? If not sit down and chill a little.


Secondly, "too high" depends on whether or not it sells at that price, not your
(or my) opinion.

Please get a life. If you aren't the seller, why are you so upset?


Thirdly, the price of one Kenwood has very little to do with the value of a
different model.

Since the TS850S is a much better receiver than a R5000 (if you dispute
that, well, it's your opinion alone, for the most part), AND has a 100
watt transmitter in the same box, it should be worth more.

I've owned 2 R5000's. Nice audio, but $700 is just not a realistic price
for a 20 year old, or close to it, receiver that runs very hot on AC
power.

I'm not so sure about the 'very hot' part. I've had one, didn't run hot, nor does the
Drake R8 series which some think run to hot...

....and now, back Michael Savage.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

In article ,
says...


BDK wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:24:31 -0400, BDK wrote:

In article ,
says...
That's the "Buy it now", not the reserve.

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:18:04 -0400, "Paul Zak" wrote:

$700 reserve price, wow!

Still too high, I paid less than that for a nearly mint Kenwood TS-
850sat recently.

First, it's none of your business what the seller asks -- if you don't like it,
don't bid on it.

LOL, you need to relax, and calm down. I'm assuming you're the seller
maybe? If not sit down and chill a little.


Secondly, "too high" depends on whether or not it sells at that price, not your
(or my) opinion.

Please get a life. If you aren't the seller, why are you so upset?


Thirdly, the price of one Kenwood has very little to do with the value of a
different model.

Since the TS850S is a much better receiver than a R5000 (if you dispute
that, well, it's your opinion alone, for the most part), AND has a 100
watt transmitter in the same box, it should be worth more.

I've owned 2 R5000's. Nice audio, but $700 is just not a realistic price
for a 20 year old, or close to it, receiver that runs very hot on AC
power.

I'm not so sure about the 'very hot' part. I've had one, didn't run hot, nor does the
Drake R8 series which some think run to hot...

...and now, back Michael Savage.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


I guess the mods to move the regulators to the outside were just for
grins, right? I had two of them, and they ran way too hot on AC power
for my tastes. Those regulators were super hot. If you would have taken
the cover off, it was more than obvious. I wonder how many R5000's
failed due to one of those regs cooking itself to death.

Michael Savage? Holy ****!

BDK

BDK wrote:

In article ,
says...


BDK wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:24:31 -0400, BDK wrote:

In article ,
says...
That's the "Buy it now", not the reserve.

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:18:04 -0400, "Paul Zak" wrote:

$700 reserve price, wow!

Still too high, I paid less than that for a nearly mint Kenwood TS-
850sat recently.

First, it's none of your business what the seller asks -- if you don't like it,
don't bid on it.

LOL, you need to relax, and calm down. I'm assuming you're the seller
maybe? If not sit down and chill a little.


Secondly, "too high" depends on whether or not it sells at that price, not your
(or my) opinion.

Please get a life. If you aren't the seller, why are you so upset?


Thirdly, the price of one Kenwood has very little to do with the value of a
different model.

Since the TS850S is a much better receiver than a R5000 (if you dispute
that, well, it's your opinion alone, for the most part), AND has a 100
watt transmitter in the same box, it should be worth more.

I've owned 2 R5000's. Nice audio, but $700 is just not a realistic price
for a 20 year old, or close to it, receiver that runs very hot on AC
power.

I'm not so sure about the 'very hot' part. I've had one, didn't run hot, nor does the
Drake R8 series which some think run to hot...

...and now, back Michael Savage.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


I guess the mods to move the regulators to the outside were just for
grins, right? I had two of them, and they ran way too hot on AC power
for my tastes.

You are a wimp!


Those regulators were super hot.

You're a pussy!

If you would have taken
the cover off, it was more than obvious. I wonder how many R5000's
failed due to one of those regs cooking itself to death.

Michael Savage? Holy ****!

Good luck in your DX conqests... try to keep up!

On Jun 13, 1:00 am, BDK wrote:
In article ,
says...







BDK wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:24:31 -0400, BDK wrote:

In article ,
says...
That's the "Buy it now", not the reserve.

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:18:04 -0400, "Paul Zak" wrote:

$700 reserve price, wow!

Still too high, I paid less than that for a nearly mint Kenwood TS-
850sat recently.

First, it's none of your business what the seller asks -- if you don't like it,
don't bid on it.

LOL, you need to relax, and calm down. I'm assuming you're the seller
maybe? If not sit down and chill a little.

Secondly, "too high" depends on whether or not it sells at that price, not your
(or my) opinion.

Please get a life. If you aren't the seller, why are you so upset?

Thirdly, the price of one Kenwood has very little to do with the value of a
different model.

Since the TS850S is a much better receiver than a R5000 (if you dispute
that, well, it's your opinion alone, for the most part), AND has a 100
watt transmitter in the same box, it should be worth more.

I've owned 2 R5000's. Nice audio, but $700 is just not a realistic price
for a 20 year old, or close to it, receiver that runs very hot on AC
power.

I'm not so sure about the 'very hot' part. I've had one, didn't run hot, nor does the
Drake R8 series which some think run to hot...

...and now, back Michael Savage.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

I guess the mods to move the regulators to the outside were just for
grins, right? I had two of them, and they ran way too hot on AC power
for my tastes. Those regulators were super hot.

Super hot?????????? Not hardly.


If you would have taken
the cover off, it was more than obvious. I wonder how many R5000's
failed due to one of those regs cooking itself to death.

I haven't heard of one. The receiver has been around since 1987 so I
would assume that stories of R5000 receivers burning up from "super
heat" would be all over the net by now. How many failures have you
read of that are traceable to overheating. Indeed how many of those
receivers have failed for any reason. Not many in my experience.

Roadie wrote:

If you would have taken
the cover off, it was more than obvious. I wonder how many R5000's
failed due to one of those regs cooking itself to death.

I haven't heard of one. The receiver has been around since 1987 so I
would assume that stories of R5000 receivers burning up from "super
heat" would be all over the net by now. How many failures have you
read of that are traceable to overheating. Indeed how many of those
receivers have failed for any reason. Not many in my experience.


Dont know either, but I know mine ran HOT. And just for the lost energy
alone it was enough for me to decide and buy an external 13,8v supply.
Now I can safely put something on top of the rx again (like a logbook or
guide) without having to worry about all that heat...

--
JeroenK

On Jun 14, 3:01 am, JeroenK wrote:
Roadie wrote:
If you would have taken
the cover off, it was more than obvious. I wonder how many R5000's
failed due to one of those regs cooking itself to death.

I haven't heard of one. The receiver has been around since 1987 so I
would assume that stories of R5000 receivers burning up from "super
heat" would be all over the net by now. How many failures have you
read of that are traceable to overheating. Indeed how many of those
receivers have failed for any reason. Not many in my experience.

Dont know either, but I know mine ran HOT. And just for the lost energy
alone it was enough for me to decide and buy an external 13,8v supply.
Now I can safely put something on top of the rx again (like a logbook or
guide) without having to worry about all that heat...

--
JeroenK

And I've owned stereos that put out some heat but ran for years. The
real question is whether Kenwood engineers considered the heat in the
radio design. Given the radio's excellent design, high performance
and record of reliability I suspect they did. The radio was well
vented so the heat was dissipated.

In article . com,
says...
On Jun 14, 3:01 am, JeroenK wrote:
Roadie wrote:
If you would have taken
the cover off, it was more than obvious. I wonder how many R5000's
failed due to one of those regs cooking itself to death.

I haven't heard of one. The receiver has been around since 1987 so I
would assume that stories of R5000 receivers burning up from "super
heat" would be all over the net by now. How many failures have you
read of that are traceable to overheating. Indeed how many of those
receivers have failed for any reason. Not many in my experience.

Dont know either, but I know mine ran HOT. And just for the lost energy
alone it was enough for me to decide and buy an external 13,8v supply.
Now I can safely put something on top of the rx again (like a logbook or
guide) without having to worry about all that heat...

--
JeroenK

And I've owned stereos that put out some heat but ran for years. The
real question is whether Kenwood engineers considered the heat in the
radio design. Given the radio's excellent design, high performance
and record of reliability I suspect they did. The radio was well
vented so the heat was dissipated.



And that excellent design, did it extend to the stock wide AM filter?

LOL.

If the part normally runs so hot it will burn fingers, that's too hot!
And that's with the case off. I've never had a stereo amp or receiver
that ran as hot as both my R5000's did, and I've had a lot of equipment
over the 40+ years since I bought my first stereo receiver in 1966.

BDK