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[email protected] June 13th 07 06:48 AM

Performance review: DE1121 vs. DE1103
 
Duncan Ross (from Scotland) wrote a very entertaining comparison of
the DE1121 and DE1103:
http://simart.googlepages.com/de1121de1103.htm

Worth a read!

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Roadie June 13th 07 09:50 PM

Performance review: DE1121 vs. DE1103
 
On Jun 13, 1:48 am, wrote:
Duncan Ross (from Scotland) wrote a very entertaining comparison of
the DE1121 and DE1103:http://simart.googlepages.com/de1121de1103.htm

Worth a read!

--
Art Simon
/artsimon


Thanks for posting. After reading it I'm at a complete loss as to why
the author chose the DE1121 over the DE1103 unless he was looking for
a way to satisfy "masochistic tendencies".


[email protected] June 13th 07 11:39 PM

Performance review: DE1121 vs. DE1103
 
Whar am I at? I reckon I been ins toooooo many newsgroups tahhday.Where
are my shoes?
cuhulin


Duncan June 25th 07 01:43 PM

Performance review: DE1121 vs. DE1103
 
On 13 Jun, 21:50, Roadie wrote:
On Jun 13, 1:48 am, wrote:

Duncan Ross (from Scotland) wrote a very entertaining comparison of
theDE1121and DE1103:http://simart.googlepages.com/de1121de1103.htm


Worth a read!


--
Art Simon
/artsimon


Thanks for posting. After reading it I'm at a complete loss as to why
the author chose theDE1121over the DE1103 unless he was looking for
a way to satisfy "masochistic tendencies".




Hi Roadie!

I chose the DE1121 because on a crowded band like 49m it outperforms
the DE1103, makes unattended recordings and the RDS-esque way that
station names appear as you tune into them while browsing regardless
of band is a sockdologer.

And I'm a masochist.

Best regards,

Duncan


Roadie June 25th 07 02:07 PM

Performance review: DE1121 vs. DE1103
 
On Jun 25, 8:43 am, Duncan wrote:
On 13 Jun, 21:50, Roadie wrote:

On Jun 13, 1:48 am, wrote:


Duncan Ross (from Scotland) wrote a very entertaining comparison of
theDE1121and DE1103:http://simart.googlepages.com/de1121de1103.htm


Worth a read!


--
Art Simon
/artsimon


Thanks for posting. After reading it I'm at a complete loss as to why
the author chose theDE1121over the DE1103 unless he was looking for
a way to satisfy "masochistic tendencies".


Hi Roadie!

I chose the DE1121 because on a crowded band like 49m it outperforms
the DE1103, makes unattended recordings and the RDS-esque way that
station names appear as you tune into them while browsing regardless
of band is a sockdologer.




And I'm a masochist.


And according to your writeup, that explains it.





Best regards,

Duncan




Duncan June 25th 07 02:41 PM

Performance review: DE1121 vs. DE1103
 
On 25 Jun, 14:07, Roadie wrote:
On Jun 25, 8:43 am, Duncan wrote:



On 13 Jun, 21:50, Roadie wrote:


On Jun 13, 1:48 am, wrote:


Duncan Ross (from Scotland) wrote a very entertaining comparison of
theDE1121and DE1103:http://simart.googlepages.com/de1121de1103.htm


Worth a read!


--
Art Simon
/artsimon


Thanks for posting. After reading it I'm at a complete loss as to why
the author chose theDE1121over the DE1103 unless he was looking for
a way to satisfy "masochistic tendencies".


Hi Roadie!


I chose the DE1121 because on a crowded band like 49m it outperforms
the DE1103, makes unattended recordings and the RDS-esque way that
station names appear as you tune into them while browsing regardless
of band is a sockdologer.


And I'm a masochist.


And according to your writeup, that explains it.



Best regards,


Duncan


Don't knock it until you've tried it! (both sentences) :^D

D.


Roadie June 25th 07 03:26 PM

Performance review: DE1121 vs. DE1103
 
On Jun 25, 9:41 am, Duncan wrote:
On 25 Jun, 14:07, Roadie wrote:





On Jun 25, 8:43 am, Duncan wrote:


On 13 Jun, 21:50, Roadie wrote:


On Jun 13, 1:48 am, wrote:


Duncan Ross (from Scotland) wrote a very entertaining comparison of
theDE1121and DE1103:http://simart.googlepages.com/de1121de1103.htm


Worth a read!


--
Art Simon
/artsimon


Thanks for posting. After reading it I'm at a complete loss as to why
the author chose theDE1121over the DE1103 unless he was looking for
a way to satisfy "masochistic tendencies".


Hi Roadie!


I chose the DE1121 because on a crowded band like 49m it outperforms
the DE1103, makes unattended recordings and the RDS-esque way that
station names appear as you tune into them while browsing regardless
of band is a sockdologer.


And I'm a masochist.


And according to your writeup, that explains it.


Best regards,


Duncan


Don't knock it until you've tried it! (both sentences) :^D

D.- Hide quoted text -

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I have tried your writeup. And I remain puzzled by your conclusions.


Duncan June 25th 07 03:48 PM

Performance review: DE1121 vs. DE1103
 
On 25 Jun, 15:26, Roadie wrote:
On Jun 25, 9:41 am, Duncan wrote:



On 25 Jun, 14:07, Roadie wrote:


On Jun 25, 8:43 am, Duncan wrote:


On 13 Jun, 21:50, Roadie wrote:


On Jun 13, 1:48 am, wrote:


Duncan Ross (from Scotland) wrote a very entertaining comparison of
theDE1121and DE1103:http://simart.googlepages.com/de1121de1103.htm


Worth a read!


--
Art Simon
/artsimon


Thanks for posting. After reading it I'm at a complete loss as to why
the author chose theDE1121over the DE1103 unless he was looking for
a way to satisfy "masochistic tendencies".


Hi Roadie!


I chose the DE1121 because on a crowded band like 49m it outperforms
the DE1103, makes unattended recordings and the RDS-esque way that
station names appear as you tune into them while browsing regardless
of band is a sockdologer.


And I'm a masochist.


And according to your writeup, that explains it.


Best regards,


Duncan


Don't knock it until you've tried it! (both sentences) :^D


D.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I have tried your writeup. And I remain puzzled by your conclusions.


No probs. Mini review just for you;

DE1103: fab sensitivity FM, MW and lack of FM images, simple UI
(except for volume control), unhelpful memories, good speaker, amazing
value for money. Very swish tuning, hopeless clock.

DE1121: improved AM selectivity, almost identical SW sensitivity, USB
connection, excellent memories, poor speaker but non-existent noise
floor, idiosynctatic UI. MP3 stuff.

DE1103 slightly better technical spec, DE1121 does everything and
copes with crowded bands better. Buy both and you'll probably sell the
DE1103 first as the DE1121's plusses outweigh its minuses.

Really really mini review: No clear winner.

Happy listening!

D.



Roadie June 25th 07 07:52 PM

Performance review: DE1121 vs. DE1103
 
On Jun 25, 10:48 am, Duncan wrote:
On 25 Jun, 15:26, Roadie wrote:





On Jun 25, 9:41 am, Duncan wrote:


On 25 Jun, 14:07, Roadie wrote:


On Jun 25, 8:43 am, Duncan wrote:


On 13 Jun, 21:50, Roadie wrote:


On Jun 13, 1:48 am, wrote:


Duncan Ross (from Scotland) wrote a very entertaining comparison of
theDE1121and DE1103:http://simart.googlepages.com/de1121de1103.htm


Worth a read!


--
Art Simon
/artsimon


Thanks for posting. After reading it I'm at a complete loss as to why
the author chose theDE1121over the DE1103 unless he was looking for
a way to satisfy "masochistic tendencies".


Hi Roadie!


I chose the DE1121 because on a crowded band like 49m it outperforms
the DE1103, makes unattended recordings and the RDS-esque way that
station names appear as you tune into them while browsing regardless
of band is a sockdologer.


And I'm a masochist.


And according to your writeup, that explains it.


Best regards,


Duncan


Don't knock it until you've tried it! (both sentences) :^D


D.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I have tried your writeup. And I remain puzzled by your conclusions.


No probs. Mini review just for you;

DE1103: fab sensitivity FM, MW and lack of FM images, simple UI
(except for volume control), unhelpful memories, good speaker, amazing
value for money. Very swish tuning, hopeless clock.

DE1121: improved AM selectivity, almost identical SW sensitivity, USB
connection, excellent memories, poor speaker but non-existent noise
floor, idiosynctatic UI. MP3 stuff.

DE1103 slightly better technical spec, DE1121 does everything and
copes with crowded bands better. Buy both and you'll probably sell the
DE1103 first as the DE1121's plusses outweigh its minuses.

Really really mini review: No clear winner.

Happy listening!

D.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Appreciate your detailed comments, thanks. Yes, there is no perfect
radio. For me the DE1103 has several plusses when it comes to raw
listening ability. But the memory management system is really poor.
Hexadecimal numbering combined with a memory transfer bug means it has
limited usefulness. And my DE1103 is starting to develop a stuttering
tuning knob. Spin it a few times and the problem goes away, but it is
a small hassle.

I have to keep reminding myself that Degen radios are quite
inexpensive and seemingly not designed for the export market. We put
up with glitches that had they occured in a Sony would have resulted
in the model being recalled.


Duncan June 26th 07 08:50 AM

Performance review: DE1121 vs. DE1103
 
On 25 Jun, 19:52, Roadie wrote:
On Jun 25, 10:48 am, Duncan wrote:



On 25 Jun, 15:26, Roadie wrote:


On Jun 25, 9:41 am, Duncan wrote:


On 25 Jun, 14:07, Roadie wrote:


On Jun 25, 8:43 am, Duncan wrote:


On 13 Jun, 21:50, Roadie wrote:


On Jun 13, 1:48 am, wrote:


Duncan Ross (from Scotland) wrote a very entertaining comparison of
theDE1121and DE1103:http://simart.googlepages.com/de1121de1103.htm


Worth a read!


--
Art Simon
/artsimon


Thanks for posting. After reading it I'm at a complete loss as to why
the author chose theDE1121over the DE1103 unless he was looking for
a way to satisfy "masochistic tendencies".


Hi Roadie!


I chose the DE1121 because on a crowded band like 49m it outperforms
the DE1103, makes unattended recordings and the RDS-esque way that
station names appear as you tune into them while browsing regardless
of band is a sockdologer.


And I'm a masochist.


And according to your writeup, that explains it.


Best regards,


Duncan


Don't knock it until you've tried it! (both sentences) :^D


D.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I have tried your writeup. And I remain puzzled by your conclusions.


No probs. Mini review just for you;


DE1103: fab sensitivity FM, MW and lack of FM images, simple UI
(except for volume control), unhelpful memories, good speaker, amazing
value for money. Very swish tuning, hopeless clock.


DE1121: improved AM selectivity, almost identical SW sensitivity, USB
connection, excellent memories, poor speaker but non-existent noise
floor, idiosynctatic UI. MP3 stuff.


DE1103 slightly better technical spec, DE1121 does everything and
copes with crowded bands better. Buy both and you'll probably sell the
DE1103 first as the DE1121's plusses outweigh its minuses.


Really really mini review: No clear winner.


Happy listening!


D.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Appreciate your detailed comments, thanks. Yes, there is no perfect
radio. For me the DE1103 has several plusses when it comes to raw
listening ability. But the memory management system is really poor.
Hexadecimal numbering combined with a memory transfer bug means it has
limited usefulness. And my DE1103 is starting to develop a stuttering
tuning knob. Spin it a few times and the problem goes away, but it is
a small hassle.

I have to keep reminding myself that Degen radios are quite
inexpensive and seemingly not designed for the export market. We put
up with glitches that had they occured in a Sony would have resulted
in the model being recalled.


Yes, my old DE1103 quickly acquired tuning knob stutter. I sent it
back and a new one arrived with much more 'drag' that worked very well
and was less prone to accidental movement. Still Degen continue to
seem unable to debounce an encoder properly. As far as DE1103 bugs are
concerned, the unlimited tuning bug is a nice easter egg, which lets
you tune unbroken from 0Khz up to (I think) 40KHz. It's strange
hearing the bandwidth shrink as you drop below 12KHz!

Degen can learn a great deal from established manufacturers such as
Sony; however until Sony release a £40 full band receiver with a 56KHz
IF and sensitivity that turns the SW100 into a paperweight, they can
possibly learn from Degen too. I am just happy to see any manufacturer
continuing to release new affordable models catering for an allegedly
dying format.

All the best!

D.




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