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Stunning news heard on BBC!!!
Stunning news heard on the Beeb today, July 12...
"A U.S. threat assessment finds al Qaeda has rebuilt its capability to mount attacks to a pre September 11 level". Now, hold on a minute, folks... --Hundreds of billions spent on "Homeland Security". --Hundreds of billions spent on the "War on Global Terrorism" in Afghanistan and Iraq for the last SIX YEARS. --Tens of thousands of lives lost on both sides. .... and after -all that-, we are back at Square One??? Truly, we can say "Heckuva job, George"! |
Stunning news heard on BBC!!!
Zeke Zzzzpt wrote: Stunning news heard on the Beeb today, July 12... "A U.S. threat assessment finds al Qaeda has rebuilt its capability to mount attacks to a pre September 11 level". Now, hold on a minute, folks... --Hundreds of billions spent on "Homeland Security". --Hundreds of billions spent on the "War on Global Terrorism" in Afghanistan and Iraq for the last SIX YEARS. --Tens of thousands of lives lost on both sides. ... and after -all that-, we are back at Square One??? Truly, we can say "Heckuva job, George"! Well, we can't say "Heckuva job, Nancy!", nor can we say "Heckuva job, Teddy!", or "Heckuva job, John 'Fraud'!". And one thing that no one will ever say is "Heckuva job, Zeke!". Best you run along with your totable and ask mommy to explain the facts to you. |
Stunning news heard on BBC!!!
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:01:57 GMT, Zeke Zzzzpt
wrote: Stunning news heard on the Beeb today, July 12... "A U.S. threat assessment finds al Qaeda has rebuilt its capability to mount attacks to a pre September 11 level". Now, hold on a minute, folks... --Hundreds of billions spent on "Homeland Security". --Hundreds of billions spent on the "War on Global Terrorism" in Afghanistan and Iraq for the last SIX YEARS. --Tens of thousands of lives lost on both sides. ... and after -all that-, we are back at Square One??? Truly, we can say "Heckuva job, George"! The IRA used to say something like "They have to be lucky all the time; we only have to be lucky once." So the cops can prevent any number of terror attacks but one may still succeed. Also, getting rid of Sadaam Hussein has not at all made us safer. Sadaam may have been a nasty bit of work, and he may have persecuted Shi'ites, an action of which Al-Qaeda would have greatly approved, but, except when it might be useful, Sadaam considered Al-Qaeda types to be a threat to his rule to be mercilessly supressed. Sadaam may have made Islamic noises but his real object of worship were those big idols of himself. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Stunning news heard on BBC!!!
dxAcehole wrote:
Truly, we can say "Heckuva job, George"! Well, we can't say "Heckuva job, Nancy!", nor can we say "Heckuva job, Teddy!", or "Heckuva job, John 'Fraud'!". And one thing that no one will ever say is "Heckuva job, Zeke!". Best you run along with your totable and ask mommy to explain the facts to you. Heckuva job, Acehole! mike |
Stunning News Heard on BBC ! - Getting The Fact Right .
On Jul 12, 4:56 pm, Zeke Zzzzpt wrote:
RHF wrote: On Jul 12, 8:01 am, Zeke Zzzzpt wrote: Stunning news heard on the Beeb today, July 12... "A U.S. threat assessment finds al Qaeda has rebuilt its capability to mount attacks to a pre September 11 level". Now, hold on a minute, folks... --Hundreds of billions spent on "Homeland Security". --Hundreds of billions spent on the "War on Global Terrorism" in Afghanistan and Iraq for the last SIX YEARS. --Tens of thousands of lives lost on both sides. ... and after -all that-, we are back at Square One??? Truly, we can say "Heckuva job, George"! Zeke - More Liberal Lies and Left-Wing Distrotions . What ? ? ? Stunning News Heard on BBC ! - - - Maybe You Should Get The Facts Right [.] Here Is What The BBC-News Said Bush Said : "US President George W Bush has Denied that Al-Qaeda is as Strong as it was at the Time of the 9/11 Attacks." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6896248.stm The US National Counter-Terrorism Center NCTC =http://www.nctc.gov/ . . . . rhf, Rhf, RHF...what are we gonna do with you????? My quotation above... "A U.S. threat assessment finds al Qaeda has rebuilt its capability to mount attacks to a pre September 11 level". is an exact (I repeat, EXACT!) quote from the Associated Press AND the FRONT PAGE of the Wall Street Journal (7/12/07, Page 1, Column 2). THAT is a FACT! Period. Read those EXACT words for yourself on the front page of the WSJ. So, YES, I -DID- "get my facts right". Now, however, if you think the Wall Street Journal is a "liberal lie" and a "left wing distortion", well, you certainly are entitled to your opinion-- although I believe you are the first person I've run across who thinks of the Wall Street Journal as left-wing and liberal. the truth be told ~ RHF You say "the truth be told"...and it WAS told. Instead of ****ing and moaning about poor old Zeke, why don't you try and figure out why after SIX years, TWO never-ending (and ever-worsening) wars and half a TRILLION dollars, the U.S. *Government* says we are at the exact same point we were at on September 10, 2001.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ZEKE, I 'Trust' Our Government over time to get the Job Done RIGHT ! - - - Whatever President Bush did it did with the tacit approval of the US Congress {Both Houses} - So 'if' there is Blame to Spread-Around : Then the House, Senate and Administration are Share the Blame Equally -and- We The American People Elected Them : So Ultimately We Are The Blame. As for a Six Year War - as Wars Go It Ain't That Long [.] * Wars of the Roses ~ 30 Years * The Hundred Years' War ~ 100 Years * Thirty Years' War ~ 30 Years * The Cold War ~ 50 Years Why even the Siege of Leningrad (1941-1944) lasted for 900 Days during WWII. And considering that the Great Wall(s) of China were built maintained and rebuilt from 500 BC to 1600 AD : China has been on a War Footing for over 2100 Years against Invaders. There are roughly 2,400,000 American that Die each Year which is about 6,575 per Day. - - - Maybe we should 'declare' War-on-Death. The War-on-Terror -against- Islam-O-Facism http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/18411 is a Global War -and- Will Take Generations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamofascism The Terrorist are 'willing' to Fight 100 or 1000 Years to Win - Are You 'willing' to Fight to ensure that they do not ? The Alternative Is : Convert to Islam, Be Enslaved or Diel [.] http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1169254/posts http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,273075,00.html http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...ow_article= 1 http://michellemalkin.com/2006/09/02/convert-or-die/ Zeke Can I Sell You a Pray Rug ? + Plus "If" You Buy The Pray Rug Today : You Get A Free Copy of the Qur' n -why- cause i like you :o) wars like life has it's ups and downs ~ RHF |
Stunning News Heard on BBC ! - Getting The Fact Right .
On Jul 12, 4:56 pm, Zeke Zzzzpt wrote:
RHF wrote: On Jul 12, 8:01 am, Zeke Zzzzpt wrote: Stunning news heard on the Beeb today, July 12... "A U.S. threat assessment finds al Qaeda has rebuilt its capability to mount attacks to a pre September 11 level". Now, hold on a minute, folks... --Hundreds of billions spent on "Homeland Security". --Hundreds of billions spent on the "War on Global Terrorism" in Afghanistan and Iraq for the last SIX YEARS. --Tens of thousands of lives lost on both sides. ... and after -all that-, we are back at Square One??? Truly, we can say "Heckuva job, George"! Zeke - More Liberal Lies and Left-Wing Distrotions . What ? ? ? Stunning News Heard on BBC ! - - - Maybe You Should Get The Facts Right [.] Here Is What The BBC-News Said Bush Said : "US President George W Bush has Denied that Al-Qaeda is as Strong as it was at the Time of the 9/11 Attacks." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6896248.stm The US National Counter-Terrorism Center NCTC =http://www.nctc.gov/ . . . . rhf, Rhf, RHF...what are we gonna do with you????? My quotation above... - "A U.S. threat assessment finds al Qaeda has rebuilt - its capability to mount attacks to a pre September 11 level". - - is an exact (I repeat, EXACT!) quote from the Associated Press - AND the FRONT PAGE of the Wall Street Journal (7/12/07, - Page 1, Column 2). THAT is a FACT! Period. Read those - EXACT words for yourself on the front page of the WSJ. Zeke - The WSJ and the AP are not the BBC [.] - - - I Got News For You - Neither the WSJ or the AP opperates a Shortwave Radio Station. Zeke - Thanky you for providing this Post as Proof Positive that you are simply propagating : Liberal Lies and Left-Wing Distortions. Why did you not tell the Truth and Post : "Stunning News Read on the WSJ and AP" - - - Oops cause this is a Shortwave News Group and you wanted to justify your Off-Topic Post with claiming the BBC was your Source. - - - liar, Liar. LIAR ! Please try posting your Propaganda on a Political Newsgroup -or- At lease Post WSJ and AP Surce items to a Newsgroup who's Fcus is what is Pinted in the WSJ and Dstributed by the AP. - - - I sure they will eat it up ! Zeke - Now here is what I wrote : Zeke - More Liberal Lies and Left-Wing Distrotions . What ? ? ? Stunning News Heard on BBC ! - - - Maybe You Should Get The Facts Right [.] Here Is What The BBC-News Said Bush Said : "US President George W Bush has Denied that Al-Qaeda is as Strong as it was at the Time of the 9/11 Attacks." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6896248.stm - So, YES, I -DID- "get my facts right". No you managed to Distort the Facts and the Souce both. zeke - once again - the truth be told ~ RHF -but- not by you . |
Stunning news heard on BBC!!!
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:01:57 +0000, Zeke Zzzzpt wrote:
... and after -all that-, we are back at Square One??? Truly, we can say "Heckuva job, George"! But Halliburton had a fantastic year now that they cut-n-run out-a the country with our tax free money. And GW still wants to give-m more! |
(OT) : Stunning News NOT Heard on the BBC !
On Jul 13, 11:37 pm, Barnard Peters wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:01:57 +0000, Zeke Zzzzpt wrote: ... and after -all that-, we are back at Square One??? Truly, we can say "Heckuva job, George"! But Halliburton had a fantastic year now that they cut-n-run out-a the country with our tax free money. And GW still wants to give-m more! BP, Point-of-Fact one of the Largest Investers in Halliburton just died Lady Bird Johnson Oops : She was a Democrat. - - - Oh the Long Nose and Hypocricy of the Liberals and the Left-Wing when the Democrats themselves are War Profiteers [.] Point-of-Fact one of the Largest US Contractors in Iraq is US Senator Diane Feinstein's Husband Oops Again : She is a Democrat. - - - Oh the Long Nose and Hypocricy of the Liberals and the Left-Wing when the Democrats themselves are War Profiteers [.] Point-of-Fact a signifcant Investor in a Terrorist Nation like Iran is Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi . . . oops, Oops. OOPS ! Again : She is a Democrat. - - - Oh the Long Nose and Hypocricy of the Liberals and the Left-Wing when the Democrats themselves are Actively Support Terrorist Nations for Profit [.] -Note- The State of California PERS is divesting itself of any Financial Interest that are doing Business in Iran because according to them Iran is a Terrorist Nation. yes this is stunning news not heard on the bbc -cause- i just told you so ~ RHF |
Stunning News Heard on BBC ! - Getting The Fact Right .
RHF wrote:
Zeke - The WSJ and the AP are not the BBC [.] - - - I Got News For You - Neither the WSJ or the AP opperates a Shortwave Radio Station. No they don't "opperate" short wave stations...but your lack of thinking causes you to miss the point. There were TWO stories on BBC. The FIRST story (that I heard and quoted) and then the SECOND story of Bush's denial that you quoted. Think for a minute (I know it's hard, but try): there had to be something that came first (my quoted story) for there to be something for Bush to deny (your second story). Timing is everything. You simply missed the first BBC story. My reason for quoting the AP and especially the Journal was as a *secondary* source. Again, if you would think just a little bit, it is much easier for someone to research/check/verify my facts with printed material easily obtained and widely available rather than trying to track down a radio newscast from a day or two ago. Zeke - Thanky you for providing this Post as Proof Positive that you are simply propagating : Liberal Lies and Left-Wing Distortions. OK, so again you think what came from the front page of the Wall Street Journal (my *secondary* source) is liberal and left wing. Your opinion, can't argue with that. Why did you not tell the Truth and Post : "Stunning News Read on the WSJ and AP" - - - Oops cause this is a Shortwave News Group and you wanted to justify your Off-Topic Post with claiming the BBC was your Source. - - - liar, Liar. LIAR ! Again, you are wrong, Wrong, WRONG! It *was* on the Beeb and it WAS the source--but you missed it. Just because YOU missed it, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And thank you for exactly illustrating my point of why I did quote the WSJ (as a *secondary* source). For those that missed the broadcast (quite easy to do), the WSJ is widely available for back-up verification. So, to summarize -your- (non-thinking) views: 1) Just because -you- missed the first broadcast, you don't think it exists. (Even though the second broadcast you quoted would not have existed had there not been the first broadcast). 2) You fault me and falsely accuse me of lying just because I provided a back-up, SECONDARY, widely available print reference that is much easier to track down than an ephemeral radio newscast. 3) You seem to imply that we can only post something heard on the Beeb if it is exclusive to them. Don't dare post it if it might also appear somewhere else. Yeah, right... 4) You think the Wall Street Journal is left-wing and liberal. 5) Finally, you dodged and totally ignored the original issue: Why, after SIX years, TWO never-ending (and ever-worsening) wars and half a TRILLION dollars, does the U.S. Government itself says we are at the exact same point we were at on September 10, 2001. Heckuva job, RHF! |
(OT) : Zeke - Present What The BBC Actually Said : Quote the New Story Headline and give a Link : Do Not Propagandize
On Jul 14, 9:26 am, Zeke Zzzzpt wrote:
RHF wrote: Zeke - The WSJ and the AP are not the BBC [.] - - - I Got News For You - Neither the WSJ or the AP opperates a Shortwave Radio Station. (OT) : Zeke - Present What The BBC Actually Said : Quote the New Story Headline and give a Link : Do Not Propagandize - No they don't "opperate" short wave stations...but - your lack of thinking causes you to miss the point. Your lack of factualality causes you to make False and misleading points. - There were TWO stories on BBC. The FIRST story - (that I heard and quoted) and then the SECOND story - of Bush's denial that you quoted. But the first was not a American Bashing Story - - - Which is what you tried to turn it in to. And I liked the second story better because it Told the Truth : As I See It [.] Here Is What The BBC-News Said Bush Said : "US President George W Bush has Denied that Al-Qaeda is as Strong as it was at the Time of the 9/11 Attacks." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6896248.stm Zeke - Present What The BBC Actually Said : TIP - Quote the New Story Headline and give a Link -if- the BBC Broadcasted the News Story On-the-Air it is on their website. * Do NOT promote Your Liberal Anti-American Political Propaganda : Let the Readers Decide for themselves the Facts as They See Them and Their Own Conclusions. - Think for a minute (I know it's hard, but try): - there had to be something that came first - (my quoted story) for there to be something - for Bush to deny (your second story). Timing - is everything. You simply missed the first - BBC story. I did 'think' {Oh It Hurts My Tiny Little Brain} and caught you Propagandizing [.] The fact that you are still trying to peddle these Liberal Democrat Lies and Left-Wing Distortions is simply more evidence that your agenda was to Bash America and Blame the US President George "W" Bush. - My reason for quoting the AP and especially the - Journal was as a *secondary* source. Again, if you - would think just a little bit, it is much easier for - someone to research/check/verify my facts with - printed material easily obtained and widely available - rather than trying to track down a radio newscast - from a day or two ago. Zeke You are backtracking again. - While I go forward : Fighting for Truth, Justice and the American Way ! - - - Oh No Not 'think' again {Oh It Hurts My Tiny Little Brain} - - Zeke - Thanky you for providing this Post as - - Proof Positive that you are simply propagating : - - Liberal Lies and Left-Wing Distortions. - OK, so again you think what came from the front - page of the Wall Street Journal (my *secondary* - source) is liberal and left wing. Your opinion, - can't argue with that. Zeke - You do not need a 2nd Source -if- You are Truthful to begin with. See what a mess your Liberal Lies and Left-Wing Distortions have got you into . . . - - Why did you not tell the Truth and Post : - - "Stunning News Read on the WSJ and AP" - - - - - Oops cause this is a Shortwave News Group - - and you wanted to justify your Off-Topic Post - - with claiming the BBC was your Source. - - - - - liar, Liar. LIAR ! - Again, you are wrong, Wrong, WRONG! - It *was* on the Beeb and it WAS the - source--but you missed it. Just because - YOU missed it, it doesn't mean it doesn't - exist. But your follow-on statements were not from the BBC there were simply more LL&LWD . {Propaganda} Here Is What The BBC-News Said Bush Said : "US President George W Bush has Denied that Al-Qaeda is as Strong as it was at the Time of the 9/11 Attacks." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6896248.stm Zeke - Present What The BBC Actually Said : TIP - Quote the New Story Headline and give a Link -if- the BBC Broadcasted the News Story On-the-Air it is on their website. * Do NOT promote Your Liberal Anti-American Political Propaganda : Let the Readers Decide for themselves the Facts as They See Them and Their Own Conclusions. - And thank you for exactly illustrating my point of - why I did quote the WSJ (as a *secondary* source). - For those that missed the broadcast (quite easy - to do), the WSJ is widely available for back-up verification. Zeke - You are backtracking again. - While I go forward : Fighting for Truth, Justice and the American Way ! -and- point out your LL&LWD {Propaganda} - So, to summarize -your- (non-thinking) views: Oh No - Not 'think' again {Oh It Hurts My Tiny Little Brain} - 1) Just because -you- missed the first broadcast, - you don't think it exists. (Even though the second - broadcast you quoted would not have existed had - there not been the first broadcast). Whether I heard the BBC Broacast or not does not mean that it did not exist : But your follow-on statements which were not from the BBC there were simply more LL&LWD . {Propaganda} Here Is What The BBC-News Said Bush Said : "US President George W Bush has Denied that Al-Qaeda is as Strong as it was at the Time of the 9/11 Attacks." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6896248.stm Zeke - Present What The BBC Actually Said : TIP - Quote the New Story Headline and give a Link -if- the BBC Broadcasted the News Story On-the-Air it is on their website. * Do NOT promote Your Liberal Anti-American Political Propaganda : Let the Readers Decide for themselves the Facts as They See Them and Their Own Conclusions. - 2) You fault me and falsely accuse me of lying just - because I provided a back-up, SECONDARY, widely - available print reference that is much easier to track - down than an ephemeral radio newscast. Zeke - No I "FAULT YOU" for Your follow-on statements which were not from the BBC there were simply more LL&LWD . {Propaganda} - 3) You seem to imply that we can only post something - heard on the Beeb if it is exclusive to them. Don't dare - post it if it might also appear somewhere else. Yeah, right... Post your Liberal Left Wing Anti-American Political Propaganda in a Bash America and Blame Bush Political Newgroup. Your original post has generated 23 Replies that did not have to be here. yeah, Yeah. YEAH ! - Right is Right -and- Liberal Lies and Left-Wing Distortions are Propaganda . - 4) You think the Wall Street Journal is left-wing and liberal. No I did not say that -but- Clearly You Are ! -and- I Did Say That . - 5) Finally, you dodged and totally ignored the original issue: I Dodged Nothing - I Pointed Out Your Bash America and Blame Bush Propaganda. CAUTION - Liberal Lies and Left-Wing Distortions {Propaganda Follows} . - Why, after SIX years, TWO never-ending (and ever-worsening) - wars and half a TRILLION dollars, does the U.S. Government - itself says we are at the exact same point we were at on - September 10, 2001. Here Is What The BBC-News Said Bush Said : "US President George W Bush has Denied that Al-Qaeda is as Strong as it was at the Time of the 9/11 Attacks." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6896248.stm Zeke - Present What The BBC Actually Said : TIP - Quote the New Story Headline and give a Link -if- the BBC Broadcasted the News Story On-the-Air it is on their website. * Do NOT promote Your Liberal Anti-American Political Propaganda : Let the Readers Decide for themselves the Facts as They See Them and Their Own Conclusions. - Heckuva job, RHF! - - - Thank You Very Much ! ~ RHF Zeke - You have quoted a few lines from some where. BUT then you when on to Propagate two more Liberal Democrat Lies and Left-Wing Distortions : 1 ... and after -all that-, we are back at Square One??? 2 Truly, we can say "Heckuva job, George"! - - - and Yes IMHO President George "W" Bush is Doing a Great Job as President and Commander-in-Chief. Zeke - Please join me in saying : God {Allah} Bless America and All Americans - Amen ~ RHF - - - Oh the Silence . . . says it all . |
(OT) : Zeke - Present What The BBC Actually Said : Quote the
RHF wrote:
Your lack of factualality causes you to make False and misleading points. Huh? A DIRECT word-for-word quote from the front page of the Wall Street Journal is a lack of factuality? And what was false and misleading? a) Direct quote from WSJ said "unsafe as 9/10/2001" b) I said wars went on for 6 years (Afghanistan+Iraq). True fact! c) I said the total cost so far was about half a trillion. True Fact! d) I then asked a legitimate question of why they felt we were "unsafe" after all that time and money. I'm sorry, but I don't know what can be more factual than that, nor do I see what is "false or misleading" about any of the statements I made. Please be SPECIFIC in which statement(s) of mine you believe are "false or misleading". Also, even though the WSJ was my *secondary* source, I hope you can now see why I mentioned it; unless you have an actual recording of a radio broadcast, it can be difficult to remember exactly what was said. If you have a secondary source in *print* (from a conservative, right-wing source no less), it can go a long way towards removing confusion (except in your case, where it seems to be causing confusion). - There were TWO stories on BBC. The FIRST story - (that I heard and quoted) and then the SECOND story - of Bush's denial that you quoted. But the first was not a American Bashing Story - - - Which is what you tried to turn it in to. I didn't try and "turn it" into anything. Just a direct quote from a conservative, right wing source, which in turn lead to a fair, reasonable and perfectly justified question--namely, after all this time and all this money, why are we still at 9/10/01? Again, a FAIR and REASONABLE question. NO bashing intended, but if you insist on seeing it that way, that's YOUR problem. And I liked the second story better because it Told the Truth : As I See It [.] Well, gee, -personal- likes. So what? Just because you "like" something is not germane to an intellectual discussion. I'm pretty sure you like pizza more than you like Brussel sprouts, but so what? * Do NOT promote Your Liberal Anti-American Political Propaganda Legitimately asking if our tax dollars were spent wisely is "Anti-American"? Legitimately asking why we are no safer is propaganda? I'm sorry, but you have that backwards: it's Pro-American! - Think for a minute (I know it's hard, but try): - there had to be something that came first - (my quoted story) for there to be something - for Bush to deny (your second story). Timing - is everything. You simply missed the first - BBC story. I did 'think' {Oh It Hurts My Tiny Little Brain} and caught you Propagandizing [.] The fact that you are still trying to peddle these Liberal Democrat Lies and Left-Wing Distortions is simply more evidence that your agenda was to Bash America and Blame the US President George "W" Bush. Please see all of my responses above. Not bashing, not a lie, no distortions--except in your overheated "Tiny Little Brain". And yes, W does get the credit--or the blame. "The buck stops here" means the President's desk--for better or worse. What part of that simple statement don't you understand? W is not perfect; he can and has made mistakes, and like all of us, he is responsible for what he has done, good or bad. And 70+% of the American public thinks he has done bad. (Just to anticipate you, that was not bashing or propaganda, Just a simple statement of fact from many polls as presented by many sources). Fighting for Truth, Justice and the American Way ! Jeez, try not to get your cape caught in your zipper...and don't slam the door on that telephone booth. - OK, so again you think what came from the front - page of the Wall Street Journal (my *secondary* - source) is liberal and left wing. Your opinion, - can't argue with that. Zeke - You do not need a 2nd Source -if- You are Truthful to begin with. I'm sorry you *STILL* don't get it. Yes, I was truthful to begin with. However, a radio newscast (and radio waves) are a very ephemeral thing. Once the broadcast is over, it's gone. A second source is given as a -courtesy- for those who wish to verify my statement but missed the broadcast. But your follow-on statements were not from the BBC there were simply more LL&LWD . {Propaganda} My follow up statements were true: -the war has gone on for 6 years -we have spent half a trillion dollars And after those two facts, I asked a simple, logical and legitimate question any reasonably intelligent person would be within their rights to ask. Whether I heard the BBC Broacast or not does not mean that it did not exist : But your follow-on statements which were not from the BBC there were simply more LL&LWD . {Propaganda} No, it was simply a logical and legitimate question any reasonably intelligent person would be within their rights to ask. Fact: We have been fighting the "Global War on Terrorism" for 6 years. Fact: We have spent half a trillion to date. Fact: The Beeb (and the right wing WSJ) reported we were in as much danger as we were before the "War on Terrorism" started. Now, it seems that any person with half a brain would be within their rights to ask why this is so. Not bashing, not anti-American, not propaganda--just a simple, fair, legitimate question. Now please, don't be so rigid in your "party-line" thinking and don't be such a nazi that you think people should not be able to question their government without being accused of being "anti-American". If your "Tiny Little Brain" gave it a just moment's thought, you would realize questioning your government is PRO-American. That's how America came into being--by "questioning" King George (the English one). |
(OT) : Zeke - Present What The BBC Actually Said : Quote theNew
Zeke Zzzzpt wrote: RHF wrote: Your lack of factualality causes you to make False and misleading points. Huh? A DIRECT word-for-word quote from the front page of the Wall Street Journal is a lack of factuality? And what was false and misleading? a) Direct quote from WSJ said "unsafe as 9/10/2001" b) I said wars went on for 6 years (Afghanistan+Iraq). True fact! c) I said the total cost so far was about half a trillion. True Fact! d) I then asked a legitimate question of why they felt we were "unsafe" after all that time and money. I'm sorry, but I don't know what can be more factual than that, nor do I see what is "false or misleading" about any of the statements I made. Please be SPECIFIC in which statement(s) of mine you believe are "false or misleading". Also, even though the WSJ was my *secondary* source, I hope you can now see why I mentioned it; unless you have an actual recording of a radio broadcast, it can be difficult to remember exactly what was said. If you have a secondary source in *print* (from a conservative, right-wing source no less), it can go a long way towards removing confusion (except in your case, where it seems to be causing confusion). - There were TWO stories on BBC. The FIRST story - (that I heard and quoted) and then the SECOND story - of Bush's denial that you quoted. But the first was not a American Bashing Story - - - Which is what you tried to turn it in to. I didn't try and "turn it" into anything. Just a direct quote from a conservative, right wing source, which in turn lead to a fair, reasonable and perfectly justified question--namely, after all this time and all this money, why are we still at 9/10/01? Again, a FAIR and REASONABLE question. NO bashing intended, but if you insist on seeing it that way, that's YOUR problem. And I liked the second story better because it Told the Truth : As I See It [.] Well, gee, -personal- likes. So what? Just because you "like" something is not germane to an intellectual discussion. I'm pretty sure you like pizza more than you like Brussel sprouts, but so what? * Do NOT promote Your Liberal Anti-American Political Propaganda Legitimately asking if our tax dollars were spent wisely is "Anti-American"? Legitimately asking why we are no safer is propaganda? I'm sorry, but you have that backwards: it's Pro-American! - Think for a minute (I know it's hard, but try): - there had to be something that came first - (my quoted story) for there to be something - for Bush to deny (your second story). Timing - is everything. You simply missed the first - BBC story. I did 'think' {Oh It Hurts My Tiny Little Brain} and caught you Propagandizing [.] The fact that you are still trying to peddle these Liberal Democrat Lies and Left-Wing Distortions is simply more evidence that your agenda was to Bash America and Blame the US President George "W" Bush. Please see all of my responses above. Not bashing, not a lie, no distortions--except in your overheated "Tiny Little Brain". And yes, W does get the credit--or the blame. "The buck stops here" means the President's desk--for better or worse. What part of that simple statement don't you understand? W is not perfect; he can and has made mistakes, and like all of us, he is responsible for what he has done, good or bad. And 70+% of the American public thinks he has done bad. (Just to anticipate you, that was not bashing or propaganda, Just a simple statement of fact from many polls as presented by many sources). Fighting for Truth, Justice and the American Way ! Jeez, try not to get your cape caught in your zipper...and don't slam the door on that telephone booth. - OK, so again you think what came from the front - page of the Wall Street Journal (my *secondary* - source) is liberal and left wing. Your opinion, - can't argue with that. Zeke - You do not need a 2nd Source -if- You are Truthful to begin with. I'm sorry you *STILL* don't get it. Yes, I was truthful to begin with. However, a radio newscast (and radio waves) are a very ephemeral thing. Once the broadcast is over, it's gone. A second source is given as a -courtesy- for those who wish to verify my statement but missed the broadcast. But your follow-on statements were not from the BBC there were simply more LL&LWD . {Propaganda} My follow up statements were true: -the war has gone on for 6 years -we have spent half a trillion dollars And after those two facts, I asked a simple, logical and legitimate question any reasonably intelligent person would be within their rights to ask. Whether I heard the BBC Broacast or not does not mean that it did not exist : But your follow-on statements which were not from the BBC there were simply more LL&LWD . {Propaganda} No, it was simply a logical and legitimate question any reasonably intelligent person would be within their rights to ask. Fact: We have been fighting the "Global War on Terrorism" for 6 years. Fact: We have spent half a trillion to date. Fact: The Beeb (and the right wing WSJ) reported we were in as much danger as we were before the "War on Terrorism" started. Now, it seems that any person with half a brain would be within their rights to ask why this is so. Not bashing, not anti-American, not propaganda--just a simple, fair, legitimate question. Now please, don't be so rigid in your "party-line" thinking and don't be such a nazi that you think people should not be able to question their government without being accused of being "anti-American". If your "Tiny Little Brain" gave it a just moment's thought, you would realize questioning your government is PRO-American. That's how America came into being--by "questioning" King George (the English one). |
(OT) : Zeke - Present What The BBC Actually Said : Quote theNew
Zeke Zzzzpt wrote: RHF wrote: Your lack of factualality causes you to make False and misleading points. Huh? A DIRECT word-for-word quote from the front page of the Wall Street Journal is a lack of factuality? And what was false and misleading? a) Direct quote from WSJ said "unsafe as 9/10/2001" b) I said wars went on for 6 years (Afghanistan+Iraq). True fact! c) I said the total cost so far was about half a trillion. True Fact! d) I then asked a legitimate question of why they felt we were "unsafe" after all that time and money. I'm sorry, but I don't know what can be more factual than that, nor do I see what is "false or misleading" about any of the statements I made. Please be SPECIFIC in which statement(s) of mine you believe are "false or misleading". Also, even though the WSJ was my *secondary* source, I hope you can now see why I mentioned it; unless you have an actual recording of a radio broadcast, it can be difficult to remember exactly what was said. If you have a secondary source in *print* (from a conservative, right-wing source no less), it can go a long way towards removing confusion (except in your case, where it seems to be causing confusion). - There were TWO stories on BBC. The FIRST story - (that I heard and quoted) and then the SECOND story - of Bush's denial that you quoted. But the first was not a American Bashing Story - - - Which is what you tried to turn it in to. I didn't try and "turn it" into anything. Just a direct quote from a conservative, right wing source, which in turn lead to a fair, reasonable and perfectly justified question--namely, after all this time and all this money, why are we still at 9/10/01? Much better to be 9/10/01 than at 9/11/01 any way one slices, dices, spindles and/or mutilates it. Think about it. dxAce Michigan USA |
Stunning news heard on BBC!!!
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:01:57 GMT, Zeke Zzzzpt
wrote: Stunning news heard on the Beeb today, July 12... "A U.S. threat assessment finds al Qaeda has rebuilt its capability to mount attacks to a pre September 11 level". Now, hold on a minute, folks... --Hundreds of billions spent on "Homeland Security". --Hundreds of billions spent on the "War on Global Terrorism" in Afghanistan and Iraq for the last SIX YEARS. --Tens of thousands of lives lost on both sides. ... and after -all that-, we are back at Square One??? Truly, we can say "Heckuva job, George"! Did it ever occur to you liberal mouth-breathing morons that Al Qaida would be EVEN STRONGER right now if President Bush hadn't gotten in their face and started killing them in Afghanistan and Iraq? No, of course not. That would be too logical for a Marxist "useful idiot" like you. I suppose it's somewhat comforting to know that you liberal fudgepackers will be the first ones beheaded by the Muslims. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Stunning news heard on BBC!!!
On Jul 15, 12:31 pm, Me wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:01:57 GMT, Zeke Zzzzpt wrote: Stunning news heard on the Beeb today, July 12... "A U.S. threat assessment finds al Qaeda has rebuilt its capability to mount attacks to a pre September 11 level". Now, hold on a minute, folks... --Hundreds of billions spent on "Homeland Security". --Hundreds of billions spent on the "War on Global Terrorism" in Afghanistan and Iraq for the last SIX YEARS. --Tens of thousands of lives lost on both sides. ... and after -all that-, we are back at Square One??? Truly, we can say "Heckuva job, George"! Did it ever occur to you liberal mouth-breathing morons that Al Qaida would be EVEN STRONGER right now if President Bush hadn't gotten in their face and started killing them in Afghanistan and Iraq? No, of course not. That would be too logical for a Marxist "useful idiot" like you. I suppose it's somewhat comforting to know that you liberal fudgepackers will be the first ones beheaded by the Muslims. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----http://www.newsfeeds.comThe #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "Me" - For the Liberals in Quest of Political Power : It's about Bush Bashing and Blaming Bush - - - the truth and reality be damned ~ RHF |
(OT) : Caution - Be 'nice' To Zeke -or- He Might Call You A "Nazi"
On Jul 15, 7:21 am, Zeke Zzzzpt wrote:
RHF wrote: Your lack of factualality causes you to make False and misleading points. Huh? A DIRECT word-for-word quote from the front page of the Wall Street Journal is a lack of factuality? And what was false and misleading? a) Direct quote from WSJ said "unsafe as 9/10/2001" b) I said wars went on for 6 years (Afghanistan+Iraq). True fact! c) I said the total cost so far was about half a trillion. True Fact! d) I then asked a legitimate question of why they felt we were "unsafe" after all that time and money. I'm sorry, but I don't know what can be more factual than that, nor do I see what is "false or misleading" about any of the statements I made. Please be SPECIFIC in which statement(s) of mine you believe are "false or misleading". Also, even though the WSJ was my *secondary* source, I hope you can now see why I mentioned it; unless you have an actual recording of a radio broadcast, it can be difficult to remember exactly what was said. If you have a secondary source in *print* (from a conservative, right-wing source no less), it can go a long way towards removing confusion (except in your case, where it seems to be causing confusion). - There were TWO stories on BBC. The FIRST story - (that I heard and quoted) and then the SECOND story - of Bush's denial that you quoted. But the first was not a American Bashing Story - - - Which is what you tried to turn it in to. I didn't try and "turn it" into anything. Just a direct quote from a conservative, right wing source, which in turn lead to a fair, reasonable and perfectly justified question--namely, after all this time and all this money, why are we still at 9/10/01? Again, a FAIR and REASONABLE question. NO bashing intended, but if you insist on seeing it that way, that's YOUR problem. And I liked the second story better because it Told the Truth : As I See It [.] Well, gee, -personal- likes. So what? Just because you "like" something is not germane to an intellectual discussion. I'm pretty sure you like pizza more than you like Brussel sprouts, but so what? * Do NOT promote Your Liberal Anti-American Political Propaganda Legitimately asking if our tax dollars were spent wisely is "Anti-American"? Legitimately asking why we are no safer is propaganda? I'm sorry, but you have that backwards: it's Pro-American! - Think for a minute (I know it's hard, but try): - there had to be something that came first - (my quoted story) for there to be something - for Bush to deny (your second story). Timing - is everything. You simply missed the first - BBC story. I did 'think' {Oh It Hurts My Tiny Little Brain} and caught you Propagandizing [.] The fact that you are still trying to peddle these Liberal Democrat Lies and Left-Wing Distortions is simply more evidence that your agenda was to Bash America and Blame the US President George "W" Bush. Please see all of my responses above. Not bashing, not a lie, no distortions--except in your overheated "Tiny Little Brain". And yes, W does get the credit--or the blame. "The buck stops here" means the President's desk--for better or worse. What part of that simple statement don't you understand? W is not perfect; he can and has made mistakes, and like all of us, he is responsible for what he has done, good or bad. And 70+% of the American public thinks he has done bad. (Just to anticipate you, that was not bashing or propaganda, Just a simple statement of fact from many polls as presented by many sources). Fighting for Truth, Justice and the American Way ! Jeez, try not to get your cape caught in your zipper...and don't slam the door on that telephone booth. - OK, so again you think what came from the front - page of the Wall Street Journal (my *secondary* - source) is liberal and left wing. Your opinion, - can't argue with that. Zeke - You do not need a 2nd Source -if- You are Truthful to begin with. I'm sorry you *STILL* don't get it. Yes, I was truthful to begin with. However, a radio newscast (and radio waves) are a very ephemeral thing. Once the broadcast is over, it's gone. A second source is given as a -courtesy- for those who wish to verify my statement but missed the broadcast. But your follow-on statements were not from the BBC there were simply more LL&LWD . {Propaganda} My follow up statements were true: -the war has gone on for 6 years -we have spent half a trillion dollars And after those two facts, I asked a simple, logical and legitimate question any reasonably intelligent person would be within their rights to ask. Whether I heard the BBC Broacast or not does not mean that it did not exist : But your follow-on statements which were not from the BBC there were simply more LL&LWD . {Propaganda} No, it was simply a logical and legitimate question any reasonably intelligent person would be within their rights to ask. Fact: We have been fighting the "Global War on Terrorism" for 6 years. Fact: We have spent half a trillion to date. Fact: The Beeb (and the right wing WSJ) reported we were in as much danger as we were before the "War on Terrorism" started. Now, it seems that any person with half a brain would be within their rights to ask why this is so. Not bashing, not anti-American, not propaganda--just a simple, fair, legitimate question. Now please, don't be so rigid in your "party-line" thinking and don't be such a nazi that you think people should not be able to question their government without being accused of being "anti-American". If your "Tiny Little Brain" gave it a just moment's thought, you would realize questioning your government is PRO-American. That's how America came into being--by "questioning" King George (the English one). (OT) : Caution - Be 'nice' To Zeke -or- He Might Call You A "Nazi" Zeke - Present What The BBC Actually Said : Quote the New Story Headline and give a Link : Do Not Propagandize * Everyone in this NewsGroup can 'choose' to Read -or- Not Read Your Post. * Everyone in this NewsGroup can 'choose' to Click-On and Read -or- Not Click-On and Read the Link. * Everyone in this NewsGroup can 'decide' for Themselves what their Conclusions Are about Your Post and the Link. - - - Your Propagandizing just gets in the way of the Truth : As The Read See It [.] The-Bottom-Line : Some Will Agree -and- Some Will Disagree - It Is Their Choice. Zeke - Simply put your original Post was written {slanted} as Bush Bashing / Blame Bush Propaganda [.] Everything Else You Do Zeke is Backtracking to Cover-Up that Fact. Now in this Post Zeke - You Lose-It by calling 'me' a "NAZI" . Oh I Am So Hurt - You Called Me a NAZI Oh Meo Oh Myo - How Will I Ever Recover ? NOTE TO ZEKE : Remember the First-One to use the Word "NAZI" {Call Someone a NAZI} in a Post the Loses the Debate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law - - - zekey, Zekey. ZEKEY ! - YOU LOSE [.] Why It Just Hurts My Tiny Brain to 'think' about all those Big Things that You Said. ~ RHF |
Stunning news heard on BBC!!!
Me wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:01:57 GMT, Zeke Zzzzpt wrote: Stunning news heard on the Beeb today, July 12... "A U.S. threat assessment finds al Qaeda has rebuilt its capability to mount attacks to a pre September 11 level". Now, hold on a minute, folks... --Hundreds of billions spent on "Homeland Security". --Hundreds of billions spent on the "War on Global Terrorism" in Afghanistan and Iraq for the last SIX YEARS. --Tens of thousands of lives lost on both sides. ... and after -all that-, we are back at Square One??? Truly, we can say "Heckuva job, George"! Did it ever occur to you liberal mouth-breathing morons that Al Qaida would be EVEN STRONGER right now if President Bush hadn't gotten in their face and started killing them in Afghanistan and Iraq? No, of course not. That would be too logical for a Marxist "useful idiot" like you. I suppose it's somewhat comforting to know that you liberal fudgepackers will be the first ones beheaded by the Muslims. liberal mouth breathing moron Marxist useful idiot liberal fudgepacker Not bad...seven names in only three sentences. Well, they say name-calling is the last resort of the intellectually challenged. Thank you for proving it. Did it ever occur to YOU that there were ZERO al Qaeda in Iraq before Bush came in? Did it ever occur to YOU that with very little electricity, no fuel, broken fresh water supplies and broken sewage systems, unsafe to send your kids to school, no jobs (due to Bremer's 'de-Baathification'), 35,000 dead civilians (probably higher, but Bush himself admitted to this number), Abu Ghrib prison scandal, raping and killing 14 year old girls and then murdering their family, that WE are -creating- al Qaeda recruits faster than we can kill 'em. |
(OT) : Caution - Be 'nice' To Zeke -or- He Might Call You A "Nazi"
On Jul 15, 2:11 pm, Zeke Zzzzpt wrote:
Me wrote: On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:01:57 GMT, Zeke Zzzzpt wrote: Stunning news heard on the Beeb today, July 12... "A U.S. threat assessment finds al Qaeda has rebuilt its capability to mount attacks to a pre September 11 level". Now, hold on a minute, folks... --Hundreds of billions spent on "Homeland Security". --Hundreds of billions spent on the "War on Global Terrorism" in Afghanistan and Iraq for the last SIX YEARS. --Tens of thousands of lives lost on both sides. ... and after -all that-, we are back at Square One??? Truly, we can say "Heckuva job, George"! Did it ever occur to you liberal mouth-breathing morons that Al Qaida would be EVEN STRONGER right now if President Bush hadn't gotten in their face and started killing them in Afghanistan and Iraq? No, of course not. That would be too logical for a Marxist "useful idiot" like you. I suppose it's somewhat comforting to know that you liberal fudgepackers will be the first ones beheaded by the Muslims. liberal mouth breathing moron Marxist useful idiot liberal fudgepacker Not bad...seven names in only three sentences. Well, they say name-calling is the last resort of the intellectually challenged. Thank you for proving it. Did it ever occur to YOU that there were ZERO al Qaeda in Iraq before Bush came in? Did it ever occur to YOU that with very little electricity, no fuel, broken fresh water supplies and broken sewage systems, unsafe to send your kids to school, no jobs (due to Bremer's 'de-Baathification'), 35,000 dead civilians (probably higher, but Bush himself admitted to this number), Abu Ghrib prison scandal, raping and killing 14 year old girls and then murdering their family, that WE are -creating- al Qaeda recruits faster than we can kill 'em.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Zeke - Does Name Calling Up-Set You ? Zeke - Have You forgotten "NAZI" - Oh that's right You were the First-One to Call someone a NAZI in this Thread. (OT) : Caution - Be 'nice' To Zeke -or- He Might Call You A "Nazi" NOTE TO ZEKE : Remember the First-One to use the Word "NAZI" {Call Someone a NAZI} in a Post the Loses the Debate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law - - - zekey, Zekey. ZEKEY ! - YOU LOSE [.] zeke - how soon we froget . . . with the word 'nazi' bouncing around my little brain causing me to 'think' oh it hurts when i 'think' ~ RHF |
(OT) : Stunning News NOT Heard on the BBC !
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:06:32 -0700, RHF wrote:
On Jul 13, 11:37 pm, Barnard Peters wrote: On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:01:57 +0000, Zeke Zzzzpt wrote: ... and after -all that-, we are back at Square One??? Truly, we can say "Heckuva job, George"! But had a fantastic year now that they cut-n-run out-a the country with our tax free money. And GW still wants to give-m more! BP, Point-of-Fact one of the Largest Investers in . just died Lady Bird Johnson Oops : She was a Democrat. - - - Oh the Long Nose and There is a difference between people who knowingly screw the tax payers (without remorse much less) and people who are passive victims of other people's doings. Unfortunately, My gubberment retirement investment has Halliburton and Micro$oft stocks but I am unable to simply drop that part of the investment. I suspect your AT&T, ComCast (or any other large name communications company) knowingly supplies most of the child porn on the internet yet you pay a monthly fee. Does that mean you support child porn? I simply can not see Ladybird J knowingly say that she is all right with killing our boys overseas to increase her stocks on Halliburton. But, I can see this easily from Bush and Cheney! |
Stunning news heard on BBC!!!
RHF wrote:
Zeke - Present What The BBC Actually Said : RHF, your "Tiny Little Brain" (your term, not mine) must be severely overheating. I've already said it three times... I DID NOT TAPE the newscast. Presumably, most people don't tape every newscast (although I'm sure some do). I paraphrased / quoted the story as best I could without actually taping it. This is EXACTLY WHY I gave an ADDITIONAL print reference that is easily obtainable and widely available to others. It is the SAME story. It was NOT -exclusive- to the BBC (but certainly heard there). Why is your "Tiny Little Brain" having such a hard time understanding this? It really ain't that complicated. Quote the New Story Headline and give a Link : I DID quote a link, readily available to all, especially those who did not tape the broadcast: "The July 12 Wall Street Journal, Page 1, Column 2". You don't have to get everything off the web, you know. If the WSJ is too left-wing and too liberal for you or you're too lazy to go to your local library, that's your problem. Now in this Post Zeke - You Lose-It by calling 'me' a "NAZI" . Oh I Am So Hurt - You Called Me a NAZI Oh Meo Oh Myo - How Will I Ever Recover ? NOTE TO ZEKE : Remember the First-One to use the Word "NAZI" {Call Someone a NAZI} in a Post the Loses the Debate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law - - - zekey, Zekey. ZEKEY ! - YOU LOSE [.] Huh? NOTE TO RHF: Give ME a link showing where -I- agreed to such a thing. I don't consider myself bound to "Godwin"--whoever he is. Plus he seems to overlook and arbitrarily eliminate the possibility that in some debates, such a comparison may indeed be legitimate and justified. In any event, the debate is not about that. Bottom line: I think it is every American's right and even duty to question their government when it is felt to be necessary. I consider it pro-American. Our Founding Fathers thought so too. You, on the other hand, seem to BLINDLY and MINDLESSLY follow along, right OR wrong. Furthermore, you call people liars, liberals, anti-American and propagandists for those who dare to exercise their rights to question. Sounds pretty anti-American and Fascist to me. auf Wiedersehen, Herr RHF... |
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