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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
DTC hath wroth:
Jeff Liebermann wrote: Egads. I'm cleaning house and found a large box of 40 year old Motrash control heads and cables. Want some junk? Slacker...I tossed out all my old Moto stuff years ago. Last time I played with the Motorola line was around the Micors came out. i used a few of them for tower top UHF repeaters The local hams still have ancient junk pretending to be repeaters and such. http://www.LearnByDestroying.com/k6bj/ I built most of it out of Micor mobiles and base stations. Since the Micor stake pin connectors are chronically intermittent, there's a large rubber hammer in each rack to bang on each radio to reseat the connectors. Since no sane person keeps such old parts around, I get to stock old radios and pieces at my house. When the local comm shop cleaned out their ancient Motorola parts pile, I ended up with most of their old parts. I think it's time for a general purge, which means either eBay or the scrap metal recyclers. What I find amusing is that many police and fire departments rebuild antique or vintage police cars and engines. They eventually want a genuine Motorola twin coffin or 80D radio for the vehicle. I've supplied about 4 of these radios (working) for various projects. The first step is to spray the crumbling rubber insulated wiring with clear acrylic to prevent further deterioration. Getting the radios working is fairly easy as I have all the old test sets and some docs. The fun part for me is watching the current crop of comm techs trying to install the monster case in the vehicle. What do I do with all this big fat cable is usually the first question. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Gas Tube Noise Source WAS: How I would like to change...
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
snip I have a fluorescent lamp calibrated noise source that's quite noisy well into the GHz range. snip I built it myself from an article in some long lost magazine perhaps 30 years ago. It's just a 5watt fluorescent tube, with a few turns of wire wrapped around it going to a broadband CATV amplifier. I was quite excited by the acquisition of a CATV distrib. amp as a giveaway at a local hamfest earlier this spring; I modified it to accept external power and use BNC connectors and produced a hand- drawn schematic which I will 'capture' when time permits and post together with photos. I have used it as a front end to a freq. counter and an oscilloscope and without it I could not have completed several projects. These units are so handy it is a wonder that (at least on the Web) there has been little mention of their experimental uses. BTW, which of the numerous newsgroups in this miserably cross-posted thread do you regularly read? Regards, Michael |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Bob Myers wrote:
wrote in message ... You're assuming he ever did anything more than assemble a list of technical buzz words to string together at random. In this same spirit, I have decided how I would like to change the electric toaster industry. I believe that henceforth, all electric toasters should be made from polished unobtainium with "Q"-shaped dilithium heating elements, as it is obvious that this results in more even toasting of the bread and an undeniably higher-fidelity output. Further, the toasted bread should be ejected by carefully-aligned cavorite lifters, timed by observing both the thermal state of the bread (detected through counts of left-hand circular polarized neutrino emissions) and the state of a resublimated thiotimoline crystal being exposed to the transverse-modulated IR spectrum. Discuss! Bob "The New Radium" M. But will such a scheme work with bagels and, more importantly, only toast one side? -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM
Bob Myers wrote:
wrote in message ... You're assuming he ever did anything more than assemble a list of technical buzz words to string together at random. In this same spirit, I have decided how I would like to change the electric toaster industry. I believe that henceforth, all electric toasters should be made from polished unobtainium with "Q"-shaped dilithium heating elements, as it is obvious that this results in more even toasting of the bread and an undeniably higher-fidelity output. Further, the toasted bread should be ejected by carefully-aligned cavorite lifters, timed by observing both the thermal state of the bread (detected through counts of left-hand circular polarized neutrino emissions) and the state of a resublimated thiotimoline crystal being exposed to the transverse-modulated IR spectrum. Discuss! Bob "The New Radium" M. If it will handle full grown trolls, I want the first ione! How long before Radium would be golden brown, and ready to feed to the hogs? ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
"Radium" wrote in message oups.com... | On Jul 15, 6:58 pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote: | | Radium hath wroth: | | The AM audio cause by lightning is so boring. | All you get are clicks | and pops. | | Oh no. It's much better than that. You get snap, crackle, pop, | crash, hiss, zap, buzz, braaaaaap, and other noises, all to the | accompanyment of loud thunder and the smell of ozone. It can also | make the fur stand up on your back. | | One thing that I do like are the sharp sawtooth wave patterns that | show up on FM video receivers whenever lightning strikes. FM video | receivers receive Y [luminance] signals present on FM radio waves. | Electrical disturbances affect the FM video receiver causing those | beautifaul zapping and buzzing sawtooth patterns on the screen. The only FM on standard TV is the audio. Video is vestigial sideband AM. BTW my grand daughter had that figured out by the time she was 12 y.o. |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
On Jul 16, 9:15 am, DTC wrote:
I was not aware there was a compelling reason for analog cell phones to stop using FM. Sounds like a solution looking for a problem. FM audio is boring -- no entertaining high-pitched tones from solar prominences which would definitely be heard on AM audio. OTOH, AM video is boring. FM video is better. As I said before, the Y [luminance] signal should be carried on an FM wave rather than an AM wave. Analog radio-frequency audio devices should use AM. Analog radio-frequency video devices should use FM. |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
On Jul 15, 6:58 pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Radium hath wroth: The AM audio cause by lightning is so boring. All you get are clicks and pops. Oh no. It's much better than that. You get snap, crackle, pop, crash, hiss, zap, buzz, braaaaaap, and other noises, all to the accompanyment of loud thunder and the smell of ozone. It can also make the fur stand up on your back. One thing that I do like are the sharp sawtooth wave patterns that show up on FM video receivers whenever lightning strikes. FM video receivers receive Y [luminance] signals present on FM radio waves. Electrical disturbances affect the FM video receiver causing those beautifaul zapping and buzzing sawtooth patterns on the screen. |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
"NotMe" wrote in message ... "Radium" wrote in message oups.com... | On Jul 15, 6:58 pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote: | | Radium hath wroth: | | The AM audio cause by lightning is so boring. | All you get are clicks | and pops. | | Oh no. It's much better than that. You get snap, crackle, pop, | crash, hiss, zap, buzz, braaaaaap, and other noises, all to the | accompanyment of loud thunder and the smell of ozone. It can also | make the fur stand up on your back. | | One thing that I do like are the sharp sawtooth wave patterns that | show up on FM video receivers whenever lightning strikes. FM video | receivers receive Y [luminance] signals present on FM radio waves. | Electrical disturbances affect the FM video receiver causing those | beautifaul zapping and buzzing sawtooth patterns on the screen. The only FM on standard TV is the audio. Video is vestigial sideband AM. BTW my grand daughter had that figured out by the time she was 12 y.o. Analog satellite still uses FM, but there is very little of that left. 30MHz wide channels. Think there used to be one version of SECAM (in France, IIRC) that used FM video. That's gone now, too. |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message ... Have you ever attended a meeting or event about something you really don't care about? The lady friend has dragged me to horse shows, dog shows, cat shows, and various cultural events, where it was a major accomplishment for me to stay awake. Yet to her, it was the highlight of excitement and of great interest. In other words, science and technology may be interesting to you and I, but to many, it's just a big boring waste of their time. Oh, sure, and I couldn't agree more. I place the blame for that squarely on our education system, which - unless you have amazingly good luck in getting the right teacher - will present "science" as an incredibly dull collection of arcane facts and formulas to be memorized, and not an interesting, exciting process full of wonders. The root of that, of course, is just that the "science" teachers most often don't really know what "science" is all about in the first place. Wrong. Science fiction has mutated into social adventure, space opera, and historical fantasy. I haven't seen any really technical science fiction in many years. Spider Robinson. Joe Haldeman. Larry Niven. Jerry Pournelle. Ben Bova. Greg Egan. Stephen Baxter. Arthur C. Clarke, who, thank the FSM, is still with us and writing. Sure, there's an AWFUL lot of crap out there - SF, like everything else, obey's Sturgeon's Law - but the good stuff is still being written. You just have to look for it. Bob M. |
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