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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
. . . Maybe that's why I like reading Mr. Radium's muddled tech rants. It's the closest approximation to science fiction I can easily find. . . . Try U.S. patents. The prose style is deadly, but the descriptions of operation are very often entertainingly fictional. For a warm-up, I recommend "Hyper-Light-Speed Antenna" by David L. Strom, #6,025,810. There are many more creative ones and ones based on better pseudo-science, but that one is surely worth a read. Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
Roy Lewallen hath wroth:
Jeff Liebermann wrote: . . . Maybe that's why I like reading Mr. Radium's muddled tech rants. It's the closest approximation to science fiction I can easily find. . . . Try U.S. patents. The prose style is deadly, but the descriptions of operation are very often entertainingly fictional. For a warm-up, I recommend "Hyper-Light-Speed Antenna" by David L. Strom, #6,025,810. http://www.google.com/patents?id=csYDAAAAEBAJ&dq=6,025,810 Cute. Apply DC and heat, and it goes faster than light. Here's my candidate for the RF hype award: "Magnetic field based power transmission line communication method and system" http://www.google.com/patents?id=N_sEAAAAEBAJ&dq=5982276 Uses a MASER with no visible means of coupling it to the power line to move 2GBits/sec. Of course, it eventually went to litigation: http://dallas.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2004/03/22/story5.html 6 Pages from Wired Magazine: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.11/media.html The list of suckers, er.... investors, it truely impressive. I'll pretend not to mention commercial antennas that are sold without any useful specifications, patterns, or simulations. That's one reason I've often considered going into the antenna business. The more they resemble a gold plated metallic scrap heap, the better they sell. Few customers can see how they operate. Product comparisons are difficult or impossible. Magic is everywhere. Yeah, the antenna biz looks good. There are many more creative ones and ones based on better pseudo-science, but that one is surely worth a read. Roy Lewallen, W7EL Yes, but patents aren't made to be read by humans. They're made to be read and fought over by attorneys. I've also derived some entertainment from patents. For a while, I was collecting what I considered to be patented impossibilities from companies that exist mostly as a stock scam. However, I got into legal hot water when I started to publicly suggest that their patented technology was closer to science fiction than science. To avoid litigation, I've had to keep my big mouth shut. I've run into some real howlers that I would just love to offer as entertainment, but don't need or want to risk an infestation of attorneys. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
Thank you Jim. You did good, it will come around full circle, allways does!
Butch KF5DE wrote in message ... In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Radium wrote: On Jul 1, 7:24 am, wrote in http://groups.google.com/group/sci.e...0c8ed13?hl=en& : how would u like to change the cell phone industry? Analog cells phones should stop using FM and should start using AM with SHF frequencies - at least 3 GHz and at most 30 GHz. Analog cell phones are going away. Cell phones already use frequencies in the 3 GHz region. You are an idiot. snip crap -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:45:02 GMT, wrote in
: In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Radium wrote: On Jul 1, 7:24 am, wrote in http://groups.google.com/group/sci.e...0c8ed13?hl=en& : how would u like to change the cell phone industry? Analog cells phones should stop using FM and should start using AM with SHF frequencies - at least 3 GHz and at most 30 GHz. Analog cell phones are going away. True. Cell phones already use frequencies in the 3 GHz region. False. -- Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS: John Navas http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna John Navas wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:45:02 GMT, wrote in : In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Radium wrote: On Jul 1, 7:24 am, wrote in http://groups.google.com/group/sci.e...0c8ed13?hl=en& : how would u like to change the cell phone industry? Analog cells phones should stop using FM and should start using AM with SHF frequencies - at least 3 GHz and at most 30 GHz. Analog cell phones are going away. True. Cell phones already use frequencies in the 3 GHz region. False. 1.9 GHz is in the -region- of 3 GHz. ..8 GHz is not in the -region- of 3 GHz. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
On Jul 16, 7:36 pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
Analog satellite still uses FM, but there is very little of that left. 30MHz wide channels. Think there used to be one version of SECAM (in France, IIRC) that used FM video. That's gone now, too. Actually SECAM also uses AM for the luminance signal. However, it uses FM for the color [chroma] signal. |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
On Jul 16, 6:07 pm, "NotMe" wrote:
The only FM on standard TV is the audio. Video is vestigial sideband AM. I want it to be the opposite. |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
I still own a service monitor and still turn it on waiting for the display to mark the arrival of the alien visitors. No doubt waiting for the Navasites from the Shirley Maclean alternative universe...with their Extended GSM communicators. |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
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Jeff Liebermann wrote: I'll pretend not to mention commercial antennas that are sold without any useful specifications, patterns, or simulations. That's one reason I've often considered going into the antenna business. The more they resemble a gold plated metallic scrap heap, the better they sell. Few customers can see how they operate. Product comparisons are difficult or impossible. Magic is everywhere. Yeah, the antenna biz looks good. I remember seeing one of those "rabbit ears" tv antennas, unpowered, shaped like a little satellite dish that you could rotate, selling for like 14.99 or something and on the box it said "Uses RF Technology!!" It was true, though, I guess. -- W. Oates |
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How I would like to change the cell phone industry [was AM electromagnetic waves: 20 KHz modulation frequency on an astronomically-low carrier frequency]
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 19:13:33 -0500, DTC
wrote in : Jeff Liebermann wrote: I still own a service monitor and still turn it on waiting for the display to mark the arrival of the alien visitors. No doubt waiting for the Navasites from the Shirley Maclean alternative universe...with their Extended GSM communicators. Hint: Extended GSM is a tower feature, not a handset feature. -- Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS: John Navas http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ |
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