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DTC hath wroth:

It sounds like you might have a causal peripheral understanding of
communications theory and stumbled upon some obscure radio propagation
concept and want to apply that obscure concept to to change the whole way
we think of communications. Ponder for a moment why said obscure concept
remained obscure.

I could go on and on and pick each of your comments apart...but it would be
a waste of time.


Quite the contrary. Taking apart rants and speculation from the
lunatic fringe is great fun. After one has mastered science and
technology, it offers an additional challenge.

Haven't you ever listened to the old Art Bell show? He collected
callers claiming alien visitations, abductions, flying saucers,
conspiracies, ghosts, amazing technology, and all kinds of other
observed phenomenon best attributable to a general lack of sanity and
education. He would treat them quite seriously, drawing out
additional details that seem to fascinate his large and diverse
audience. My guess(tm) is that reality and accurate science are
fundamentally boring, and that speculation, lunacy and fantasy are
suitable diversions. Some of his callers held prestigious academic or
government positions, and apparently wanted to how far off the deep
end they could go. I recognized one or two. To properly present a
pseudoscientific hoax requires a good understanding of the science and
technology, and not just a word salad of buzzwords.

I must confess that I enjoy doing the same thing, as witnessed by this
ummm.... discussion. Lacking a suitable solution to the general lack
of technical sanity problem, I find it far more interesting to become
part of the problem. For example, my rants on being a werewolf:
http://www.LearnByDestroying.com/nooze/werewolf.txt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Bell
In 1998, Bell was named as recipient of the less-than-prestigious
Snuffed Candle Award. The Council for Media Integrity cited Bell
"for encouraging credulity, presenting pseudoscience as genuine,
and contributing to the public's lack of understanding of the
methods of scientific inquiry."

That's why it's called "the magic of radio". When the magic wears
off, what's left is boring and mundane science and physics.

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Jeff Liebermann
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
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Haven't you ever listened to the old Art Bell show?
Some of his callers held prestigious academic or
government positions, and apparently wanted to how far off the deep
end they could go.


I could be wrong as I'm going back to a late night show over five years ago
and I seem to recall it was one of his.

He was talking about GPS and played back a snippet of a conversation of
above mentioned prestigious academic person that went ballistic trying to
validate his credentials. But I digress...

I so wanted to point out that Art's (if indeed it was his show) was a
disingenuous presentation of GPS as it led the less informed to believe
there was a very dark and pervasive side to GPS. Continuing the only good
aspects of GPS were promoted by manufactures and dealers of GPS systems.

Good or bad...the bottom line was he attracted an audience and an audience
translates to advertising revenues.


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"Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message
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audience. My guess(tm) is that reality and accurate science are
fundamentally boring,


I think a lot of people perceive them as such, but that
perception is, without fail in my experience, the result of
a nearly-complete ignorance of these subjects on the parts
of those people. There are a practically infinite number
of incredibly interesting, beautiful, weird, mind-blowing things
going on in real science - if anything, it's the speculation,
lunacy, and fantasy that winds up looks really dull, if you
have any sort of understanding of the real world. Most of
what passes for interesting material on the Art Bell show
would be kicked out as too dull, too unimaginative, and/or too
mundane by any decent science-fiction editor.

Bob M.


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