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How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
Lets me slide the plastic thingy of the leftover spagehhtie and
meatballs thingy over for my little four legged dishwasher doggie to finish off. cuhulin |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
"Brenda Ann" hath wroth:
"DaveC" wrote in message Do away with GPS location reporting. I see you don't believe the government's stated primary goal of making E911 available to cell users.. Phase 2 E911 is a long way from being universally available. http://mrtmag.com/mag/radio_waiting/ Most of the PSAP's are having problems getting their state governments to release money already allocated for the purpose. (First they steal from the rich, then from the poor, and now from themselves). The FCC is also getting a bit irritated at cooked test results for complying with location accuracy. I've seen some really suspicious results using some possibly (not sure) dubious technology. http://mrtmag.com/mag/radio_fcc_looks_location/index.html Incidentally, the governments apparent goal is more like "We want everyone to be safe, even if it bankrupts everyone". -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
"Michael A. Terrell" hath wroth:
Have you EVER seen any instrumentation cards for a MAC? I've seen ISA, EISA, PCI and the pc-104 industrial variant os the EISA buss. Add EPIC, EPIC Express, ITX, Mini-ITX, Nano-ITX, EBX, PCI-104, PC-104 Plus, CompactPCI, EPIC, EPIC-Express, PC/104, PC/104-Plus, PC/104-Express, PICMG, AMC, ETX, ECX, XTX, COM-Express, COM-Express, and probably a few I've missed. PC's own the industrial control market. The catch is that most boards are rather expensive. See: http://www.mini-itx.com On the right side is a list of "projects" that various users have built. They range from ingenious to ludicrous. All are interesting. I suppose that could be done with a disembowled Mac, but Apple doesn't sell motherboards so it requires cannibalization of a complete machine. So much for the hobbyist market. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
msg wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote: Have you EVER seen any instrumentation cards for a MAC? Funny you should ask ;) The only NI GPIB card I could afford is the surplus one that showed up in an old Mac LC together with its Labview (68K) driver. The Mac was tossed at a landfill collection center. Regards, Michael I've seen dozens for the PC, but never one for a MAC. In fact, I still have a couple 8 bit NI cards, somewhere. Microdyne built telemetry receivers in various PC form factors, but no one ever requested any design be ported to a MAC. We also built VME and PC-104 based equipment with IEEE-488 ports.. I've also had IEEE-488 interfaces for the Commodore 64. I used it with their 4023 and 8023 P series printers. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" hath wroth: Have you EVER seen any instrumentation cards for a MAC? I've seen ISA, EISA, PCI and the pc-104 industrial variant os the EISA buss. Add EPIC, EPIC Express, ITX, Mini-ITX, Nano-ITX, EBX, PCI-104, PC-104 Plus, CompactPCI, EPIC, EPIC-Express, PC/104, PC/104-Plus, PC/104-Express, PICMG, AMC, ETX, ECX, XTX, COM-Express, COM-Express, and probably a few I've missed. PC's own the industrial control market. The catch is that most boards are rather expensive. You do have to consider the total volume of sales vs the engineering costs, plus these items are generally not built with all jelly bean parts. The HP 85 desktop computer with the tape drive, tiny monochrome monitor and IEEE-488 port was used at Microdyne for some very old equipment for test and alignment, till they finally hired a programmer to write new software for a PC. http://www.oldcalculatormuseum.com/hp85.html See: http://www.mini-itx.com On the right side is a list of "projects" that various users have built. They range from ingenious to ludicrous. All are interesting. I suppose that could be done with a disembowled Mac, but Apple doesn't sell motherboards so it requires cannibalization of a complete machine. So much for the hobbyist market. http://www.measurementcomputing.com/index.html was our supplier for PC-104 IEEE-488 interface boards. They used to be Computer Boards, Inc. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Kurt wrote: In article 346324481020070722181912elecconnec@AmericaOnLine. com, Todd Allcock wrote: At 21 Jul 2007 19:40:38 -0700 Kurt wrote: Bottom line - People want products that work for them. Period. Mac delivers, like them or not. Yet Macs have been around for 20 years and still only have a 5% market share- clearly they "deliver" something those 5% want, but not something "everyone" wants. Haven't me from running a good-sized design advertising design studio. Never got what everyone else liked about PCs (and forget the "PCS are cheaper" excuse - you pay more in time and virus prevention later). Use Virtual PC about once a week to test on IE browser and access a couple ActiveX powered control panels. More lies from the mac community. There are excellent anti virus programs that are free for private use AVG is my favorite. Have you EVER seen any instrumentation cards for a MAC? I've seen ISA, EISA, PCI and the pc-104 industrial variant os the EISA buss. Snip Yes. National Instruments. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" hath wroth: Jeff Liebermann wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" hath wroth: Have you EVER seen any instrumentation cards for a MAC? I've seen ISA, EISA, PCI and the pc-104 industrial variant os the EISA buss. Add EPIC, EPIC Express, ITX, Mini-ITX, Nano-ITX, EBX, PCI-104, PC-104 Plus, CompactPCI, EPIC, EPIC-Express, PC/104, PC/104-Plus, PC/104-Express, PICMG, AMC, ETX, ECX, XTX, COM-Express, COM-Express, and probably a few I've missed. PC's own the industrial control market. The catch is that most boards are rather expensive. Sorry about the duplicated acronyms. :-) The HP 85 desktop computer with the tape drive, tiny monochrome monitor and IEEE-488 port was used at Microdyne for some very old equipment for test and alignment, till they finally hired a programmer to write new software for a PC. http://www.oldcalculatormuseum.com/hp85.html You could have used an emulator. Most of the software needed updated, anyway. The equipment being tested had the newer IEEE-488 implementation, and the old system couldn't make use of it. We had five of them and the cal lab could barely keep two running. There were days we had to forcible take the only working unit away from engineering to ship on time. After the new software was ready, they bought a pile of NI boards for the Win 95 computers used in test and engineering. (This was pre Y2K) Some of the old HP test hardware has been emulated on a PC as a means of preserving the investment in software. For the HP85: http://www.kaser.com/hp85.html Incidentally, I collect HP calculators: http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/hp-calc/ Ugh. Those are ancient photos. My collection is easily twice as large today. I also do some repairs: http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/hp65/ in my non-existent spare time. http://www.measurementcomputing.com/index.html was our supplier for PC-104 IEEE-488 interface boards. They used to be Computer Boards, Inc. They still own http:/www.ComputerBoards.com I used to buy relatively cheap ISA and PCI I/O cards from them. I may still have a few of the padded shipping boxes, some of each name. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
snip I've also had IEEE-488 interfaces for the Commodore 64. I used it with their 4023 and 8023 P series printers. Indeed the PET 4000 and 8000 series GPIB ports are useful for instrument control and I have seen quite a few in physics departments doing that job. Regards, Michael |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
snip The HP 85 desktop computer with the tape drive, tiny monochrome monitor and IEEE-488 port was used at Microdyne for some very old equipment for test and alignment, till they finally hired a programmer to write new software for a PC. One may be surprised at the current level of interest in HP85 hardware; many are still running well in their roles as experiment controllers and with spares there is little impetus to replace them. Regards, Michael |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
Don Bowey wrote:
I have a new, old-stock printer for the HP85, still in it's bag and box. Is there any interest in it or is it junk? Some many years ago now, I organized a group purchase from PIC of drive belts for the printer and also developed a technique for re-rubbering the capstan roller in the tape drive. I would appreciate getting your printer ;) Regards, Michael msg _at_ cybertheque _dot_ org |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
msg hath wroth:
Don Bowey wrote: I have a new, old-stock printer for the HP85, still in it's bag and box. Is there any interest in it or is it junk? Not me. I've got one. Some many years ago now, I organized a group purchase from PIC of drive belts for the printer and also developed a technique for re-rubbering the capstan roller in the tape drive. I would appreciate getting your printer ;) That was the problem with much of the HP mechanical hardware. The rubber composition just didn't last and would eventually decompose into a sticky mess. For example, this is my reconstructed HP-65 mag stripe reader drive wheel using a slice of clear vinyl tubing. http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/hp65/slides/Hp65-Drive-Roller.html Incidentally, the most difficult part of this exercise was neatly cutting the hose to size. I had to use a razor blade or a scalpel. The tape drive roller in the HP85 was susceptible to the same rubber deterioration. http://www.series80.org/Articles/capstan-repair.html I fixed two using the same clear vinyl tubing trick. Sorry, no photos. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
In article
, Telamon wrote: In article , "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Kurt wrote: In article 346324481020070722181912elecconnec@AmericaOnLine. com, Todd Allcock wrote: At 21 Jul 2007 19:40:38 -0700 Kurt wrote: Bottom line - People want products that work for them. Period. Mac delivers, like them or not. Yet Macs have been around for 20 years and still only have a 5% market share- clearly they "deliver" something those 5% want, but not something "everyone" wants. Haven't me from running a good-sized design advertising design studio. Never got what everyone else liked about PCs (and forget the "PCS are cheaper" excuse - you pay more in time and virus prevention later). Use Virtual PC about once a week to test on IE browser and access a couple ActiveX powered control panels. More lies from the mac community. There are excellent anti virus programs that are free for private use AVG is my favorite. Have you EVER seen any instrumentation cards for a MAC? I've seen ISA, EISA, PCI and the pc-104 industrial variant os the EISA buss. Snip Yes. National Instruments. -- Telamon Ventura, California Hey, neighbor (also Ventura) -- To reply by email, remove the word "space" |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
I have AT&T, formerly Bell South, formerly Southern Bell, since the
1940s.I have a Tracfone.What's y'alls big disconertation with phone companies? y'all almost never make any sense to me! Get A Life! cuhulin |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
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cuhulin |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
On Jul 23, 12:33 pm, wrote:
I have AT&T, formerly Bell South, formerly Southern Bell, since the 1940s.I have a Tracfone.What's y'alls big disconertation with phone companies? y'all almost never make any sense to me! Get A Life! cuhulin Cuhulin - You got a "Tracfone" now the US Gobermint will really be a tracking you down. ~ RHF |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
In article ,
Kurt wrote: In article , Telamon wrote: In article , "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Kurt wrote: In article 346324481020070722181912elecconnec@AmericaOnLine. com, Todd Allcock wrote: At 21 Jul 2007 19:40:38 -0700 Kurt wrote: Bottom line - People want products that work for them. Period. Mac delivers, like them or not. Yet Macs have been around for 20 years and still only have a 5% market share- clearly they "deliver" something those 5% want, but not something "everyone" wants. Haven't me from running a good-sized design advertising design studio. Never got what everyone else liked about PCs (and forget the "PCS are cheaper" excuse - you pay more in time and virus prevention later). Use Virtual PC about once a week to test on IE browser and access a couple ActiveX powered control panels. More lies from the mac community. There are excellent anti virus programs that are free for private use AVG is my favorite. Have you EVER seen any instrumentation cards for a MAC? I've seen ISA, EISA, PCI and the pc-104 industrial variant os the EISA buss. Snip Yes. National Instruments. -- Telamon Ventura, California Hey, neighbor (also Ventura) There are a few people from Ventura, Oxnard, and LA that post to this news group. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
How I would like to change the *digital* cell phone industry.
I see you don't believe the government's stated primary goal of making E911
available to cell users.. I don't believe or disbelieve. The OP asked a question. I offered my contribution. -- DaveC This is an invalid return address Please reply in the news group |
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