Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"Stephanie Weil" wrote in message
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On Aug 11, 8:49 pm, Bart Bailey wrote:
but Mexico allows
international jamming station XLNC to operate from their territory.
so I say **** Mexico and may they suffer any interference.


I don't understand how XHLNC/Tijuana is a "jammer"? The station is
licenced to serve the Tijuana/San Diego metro. Whether or not it
blocks reception of an out of town station (KPFK/Los Angeles) is
irrelevant. KPFK's service area is Los Angeles, NOT San Diego.


100,000 watt FM signals are not meant to cover only a single city, but a
very wide area. Most of the 100KW plants in Portland easily cover a 75
mile radius (easily listenable on even the crappiest of Chinese Junk
radios. One thing the FCC would never do (and it pains me to give them ANY
credit whatsoever) is to put two stations on the same frequency with
overlapping coverage areas (nighttime AM propagation notwithstanding).

The distance from the Mt. Wilson tower site to S.D. is only about 100
miles. Given terrain and tower height, that's EASILY a listenable signal
in S.D.

But it is only protected to the 54 dbu contour of a conforming class B, the
equivalent of 50 kw at 500 feet. So, signal or not, it is not licensed to
serve San Diego at all.

Most of the LA stations have had cochannel or adjacents put on the "real but
not protected" countours in the last several decades.

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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posted on Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:16:57 -0700, Stephanie Weil wrote: Begin

I'm sure XHLNC itself is not thrilled at having their
coverage area cut back by an out of area station on the same freq.

KPFK was there first, has been for many years.
XLNC was created by a bunch of right wingers over in Coronado.


XHLNC (XLNC is not the call letter assignment) was licensed to Victor Diaz
Romo, who had a life long love of classical and wanted to offer the format
to SD and Tijuana. Diaz Romo (RIP) was the son of the founder of Radios
Comerciales, SA of Guadalajara, and his family goes back about 70 years in
radio in Mexico. At one point, they owned about 40 stations.

The Diaz family was associated with the liberal PRI party, by the way.

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

David "I pose as 'Eduardo' because I'm retarded, and couldn't come up with any
other shtick" wrote:

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In ups.com
posted on Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:16:57 -0700, Stephanie Weil wrote: Begin

I'm sure XHLNC itself is not thrilled at having their
coverage area cut back by an out of area station on the same freq.

KPFK was there first, has been for many years.
XLNC was created by a bunch of right wingers over in Coronado.


XHLNC (XLNC is not the call letter assignment) was licensed to Victor Diaz
Romo, who had a life long love of classical and wanted to offer the format
to SD and Tijuana. Diaz Romo (RIP) was the son of the founder of Radios
Comerciales, SA of Guadalajara, and his family goes back about 70 years in
radio in Mexico. At one point, they owned about 40 stations.

Which would be 40 more than you ever owned!

I'm LMFAO, boy... you'd best have Hose-A or Hose-B get you some paperwork.

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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"dxAce" wrote in message
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Now that we're on the FM thing, there's a station that is in Grand
Rapids,
Michigan that for years advertised that it was the most powerful FM
station in
the country.

Maybe on 97.3? They now play country, but once were rock.

Could easily pick them up down into Indiana (my home and native land)
quite
easily.

Actually, there are two grandfathered stations in Grand Rapids. WOOD has
265,000 watts ERP and WBCT has 320,000 watts ERP. WOOD-FM is on 105.7 and
the other on 93.7. WBCT was originally put on by Fetzer, combining the
aural sections of two high band VHF TV transmitters, modified, to give
nearly 500 kw ERP... but, at the time, only horizontal polarization.

Unfortunately, both have had their useful coverage reduced as they are
only protected to the contour of a conforming 50 kw at 500 foot class B
FM. More recent allocations limit the listenership area considerably.

Amazingly, this evening I was driving around Brookfield, WI, listening to
WBCT on a pretty average car radio with a perfectly listenable signal. 105.7
was, however, not listenable due to other station interference.

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
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In posted on Tue, 14
Aug 2007 17:04:05 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin


The Diaz family was associated with the liberal PRI party, by the way.

Was that back in the day of Jose Lopez Portillo, that saint?

No, that was back in the days of Miguel Aleman, López Mateos, Díaz Ordaz,
Ruíz Cortines and Manuel Avila... from the 40's into the 60's.

López was president in 1976.

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

On Aug 14, 6:44 pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
. One
thing the FCC would never do (and it pains me to give them ANY credit
whatsoever) is to put two stations on the same frequency with overlapping
coverage areas (nighttime AM propagation notwithstanding).

Try 101.1 FM in New York vs. 101.1 FM in Philadelphia. If one is off
the air and you slightly adjust your antenna, you can pick up the
other. In certain areas of central New Jersey, they jam each other.

Same with 98.3 in New Brunswick, NJ and 98.3 in Hempstead, NY. I
remember as a kid slightly adjusting the power cord on what passed for
my "hi fi" (a Yorx all-in one record changer thing from the 1980s) and
being able to switch between either station.

So yeah, the FCC is very guilty of shortspacing frequencies,
especially in crowded areas like the North East.

Stephanie Weil
New York City, USA

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

On Aug 15, 10:26 am, Bart Bailey wrote:

You were a kid in the 80s?

I was born in 1975. The scenario I just narrated took place in the
early 1990s (around 1992 or 93), so I was in my mid teens. The Yorx
stereo in question was someting I had found on the curb a couple
minutes after some lady brought it out of her apartment. I kind of
miss it -- it had everything I could want. Three-speed record
changer, 8-track player and cassette recorder and AM/FM radio.

That's an encouraging thought,
that today's youth, and you can't be otherwise,
are still interested in SW.

Well, I'm 31 now, so I wouldn't say I'm part of "today's youth". :)

--Stephanie

Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

"Stephanie Weil" wrote in message
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On Aug 14, 6:44 pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
. One
thing the FCC would never do (and it pains me to give them ANY credit
whatsoever) is to put two stations on the same frequency with overlapping
coverage areas (nighttime AM propagation notwithstanding).

Try 101.1 FM in New York vs. 101.1 FM in Philadelphia. If one is off
the air and you slightly adjust your antenna, you can pick up the
other. In certain areas of central New Jersey, they jam each other.

Same with 98.3 in New Brunswick, NJ and 98.3 in Hempstead, NY. I
remember as a kid slightly adjusting the power cord on what passed for
my "hi fi" (a Yorx all-in one record changer thing from the 1980s) and
being able to switch between either station.

So yeah, the FCC is very guilty of shortspacing frequencies,
especially in crowded areas like the North East.

Further, the coverage of grandfathered stations is not protected... just the
contour of a conforming station of that class.

(OT) Mexico says "Hang on a minute" to IBOC
 

In article .com,
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the least likely example of an honest presidental election in
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