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FRG 100
I am considering buying one - any suggestions as to what would be a
reasonable second-hand price please? Thanks Mike |
FRG 100
"Mike Terry" wrote in message ... I am considering buying one - any suggestions as to what would be a reasonable second-hand price please? Thanks Mike E-Bay shows two FRG-100's one sold for $299.99, the other is listed as Buy It Now for $300.00 but current bid is $52.11 -- reserve not met URL: http://cgi.ebay.com/YAESU-FRG-100-co...QQcmdZViewItem Lamont |
Yaesu FRG-100 Shortwave Receiver
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The Yaesu FRG-100 Shortwave Receiver lacks a Numeric Key Pad {there is a Non OEM Option} Some do not rate it's perfromance as good as other Shortwave Receivers made during the 1990s. Note - The newer "B" Model is said to be a little better than the older versions. -Info- Yaesu FRG-100 Shortwave Receiver http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/2786.html http://www.universal-radio.com/catal.../2786spec.html http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...r/2786ops.html http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...r/2786rear.jpg http://www.dxing.com/rx/frg7.htm -hosted by- Universal-Radio.Com / DXing.Com / RFfun.Com SOLD = http://www.universal-radio.com/used/sold090.html eHAM Reviews of the Yaesu FRG-100B Receiver http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/476 http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/476?page=2 ABOUT - The Yaesu FRG-100 Shortwave Receiver http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Yaesu_FRG-100 Read the Monitoring Times Magazine article on the Yaesu FRG100 Improvements and Keypad* -Issue- FEB 94 Read the Radio Netherlands Review of the Yaesu FRG-100 Shortwave Receiver http://www.mwcircle.org/res-receiver-yaesufrg100.htm -hosted by- The Medium Wave Circle Yaesu FRG-100 Shortwave Receiver Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frg-100/ Search eBay for Yaesu FRG-100 Shortwave Receiver SEARCH FRG-100 = http://tinyurl.com/2nwm7x hope this helps ~ RHF |
FRG 100
"dxAce" wrote in message ... Jackson wrote: "Mike Terry" wrote in news:i_Odnb-5r- : I am considering buying one - any suggestions as to what would be a reasonable second-hand price please? I've seen a handful listed recently on QTH.COM in the $300-350 range. At around that price, or just a wee bit more, a Drake R8 can be had these days. Much rather have the used R8 if it was in good shape. Even better, spend a bit more and get a new R75. Michael |
FRG 100
On Aug 29, 10:29 pm, BDK wrote:
In article , says... "dxAce" wrote in message ... Jackson wrote: "Mike Terry" wrote in news:i_Odnb-5r- : I am considering buying one - any suggestions as to what would be a reasonable second-hand price please? I've seen a handful listed recently on QTH.COM in the $300-350 range. At around that price, or just a wee bit more, a Drake R8 can be had these days. Much rather have the used R8 if it was in good shape. Even better, spend a bit more and get a new R75. Michael Either of them are much better than the FRG-100B. BDK- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I had an FRG-100"B"for awhile, and its main problem IMO was that the base response in the audio was strong, and the treble weak. This made even clear stations sound quite muddy, and harder stations were nearly impossible. An external speaker helped, but not much. There was a tech fix for this, but I never attempted it. Also the filters left a bit to be desired, especially when the audio was already poor. Otherwise, it was fairly nice receiver, easy to use, but as others have pointed out, no keypad. Changing Freqs was not hard, however. It was certainly sensitive and selective enough, and seemed to have no particular trouble with intermod products or overloading from strong local stations (with which I am plagued). I have enjoyed the R75 much more, even though it has taken the Kiwa mods to bring it up to a reasonble par. Bruce Jensen |
FRG 100
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FRG 100
BDK wrote:
In article , says... Much rather have the used R8 if it was in good shape. Even better, spend a bit more and get a new R75. Michael Either of them are much better than the FRG-100B. BDK I can't speak to the R8, but the FRG-100 was a better radio than the R75, having owned both. The Frog was a lot less flashy, somewhat less convenient to move from frequency A to frequency B in a hurry, and chuffed terribly, but the basic performance was quite good. Once you got past all the bells and whistles on the R75, there was no performance there. -- Eric F. Richards "Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- Myron Glass, often attributed to J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940 |
FRG 100
On Aug 31, 10:23 pm, Eric F. Richards wrote:
BDK wrote: In article , says... Much rather have the used R8 if it was in good shape. Even better, spend a bit more and get a new R75. Michael Either of them are much better than the FRG-100B. BDK I can't speak to the R8, but the FRG-100 was a better radio than the R75, having owned both. The Frog was a lot less flashy, somewhat less convenient to move from frequency A to frequency B in a hurry, and chuffed terribly, but the basic performance was quite good. Once you got past all the bells and whistles on the R75, there was no performance there. -- Eric F. Richards "Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- Myron Glass, often attributed to J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940 Not sure what you mean by that exactly - but dumping the FRG100 for my R75 was a good decision for me. The Icom simply bags me more stations. Plenty of performance under what can only be termed obnoxious RFI conditions. Bruce Jensen |
FRG 100
bpnjensen wrote:
Not sure what you mean by that exactly - but dumping the FRG100 for my R75 was a good decision for me. The Icom simply bags me more stations. Plenty of performance under what can only be termed obnoxious RFI conditions. Bruce Jensen I think I've documented my experiences here to exhaustion, here, but just in case you need a recap: - poor ultimate rejection - low dynamic range - creaky AGC that works... if you have the 10 minutes to play with it Sensitivity was never an issue... it picked up oddball stations hundreds of places on the dial below 10 MHz. If you enjoy it, well, good for you. All I know is it is the one radio I have absolutely no regrets parting with. ....oh, it did have a very smooth tuning knob. |
FRG 100
BDK wrote:
No R-75 I have ever used had any of those problems. BDK Well, I suggest you use Google and read up on my experiences, because I was quite vocal about them in the past. The most R-75 favorable test came out in this thread, started May 5, 2002. Message-ID: |
The Great Debate of Radio User's Opinions : So Tell Use Wants Your Opinion ?
On Sep 2, 4:01 pm, Eric F. Richards wrote:
BDK wrote: No R-75 I have ever used had any of those problems. BDK Well, I suggest you use Google and read up on my experiences, because I was quite vocal about them in the past. The most R-75 favorable test came out in this thread, started May 5, 2002. Message-ID: For One and All, The Great Debate of Radio User's Opinions : Round # 1 - Drake R8 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 - - - now it would appear it is - - - Round # 2 - Yaesu FRG100 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 So Tell Use Wants Your Opinion ? cause it's simply about shortwave radio ~ RHF |
The Great Debate of Radio User's Opinions : So Tell Us What's Your Opinion
On Sep 2, 8:15 pm, Telamon
wrote: In article . com, RHF wrote: Snip So Tell Use Wants Your Opinion ? You can start by explaining the sentence above. -- Telamon Ventura, California U Wants an x-plane-nation "So Tell Us What's Your Opinion" |
The Great Debate of Radio User's Opinions : So Tell Use Wants Your Opinion ?
In article telamon_spamshield-B794E1.20152502092007
@newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net, lid says... In article . com, RHF wrote: Snip So Tell Use Wants Your Opinion ? You can start by explaining the sentence above. You beat me to it.. BDK |
The Great Debate of Radio User's Opinions : So Tell Use Wants Your Opinion ?
On Sep 4, 2:21 am, BDK wrote:
In article telamon_spamshield-B794E1.20152502092007 @newsclstr03.news.prodigy.net, says... In article . com, RHF wrote: Snip So Tell Use Wants Your Opinion ? You can start by explaining the sentence above. You beat me to it.. BDK BDK - Glad to have Entertained You :o) ~ RHF |
Yaesu FRG100 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 : So Tell Us What Is Your Opinion ?
On Sep 2, 4:17 pm, RHF wrote:
On Sep 2, 4:01 pm, Eric F. Richards wrote: BDK wrote: No R-75 I have ever used had any of those problems. BDK Well, I suggest you use Google and read up on my experiences, because I was quite vocal about them in the past. The most R-75 favorable test came out in this thread, started May 5, 2002. Message-ID: For One and All, The Great Debate of Radio User's Opinions : Round # 1 - Drake R8 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 - - - now it would appear it is - - - Round # 2 - Yaesu FRG100 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 So Tell Use Wants Your Opinion ? cause it's simply about shortwave radio ~ RHF . . . . For One and All, The Great Debate of Radio User's Opinions : Round # 1 - Drake R8 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 - - - now it would appear it is - - - Round # 2 - Yaesu FRG100 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 So Tell Us What Is Your Opinion ? cause it's simply about shortwave radio ~ RHF |
Yaesu FRG100 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 : So Tell Us What Is Your Opinion ?
#1 R8 #2R75 #3 FRG-100 Not really wanting to own any of them.. BDK An interesting comment. Care to elaborate? Bill |
Yaesu FRG100 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 : So Tell Us What Is Your Opinion ?
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Yaesu FRG100 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 : So Tell Us What Is Your Opinion ?
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Yaesu FRG100 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 : So Tell Us What Is YourOpinion ?
BDK wrote:
Icom R71a. Was totally dead when I bought it at a hamfest, had a bunch of bad solder joints and really reeked of smoke. Works 100% now, except for LSB has a warbling on it that I can't get rid of. Not bad, just enough to drive me nuts. That's usually from the cheap trimmers on the PLL board. Replacing them with ceramics should do it. |
Yaesu FRG100 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 : So Tell Us What Is Your Opinion ?
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Yaesu FRG100 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 : So Tell Us What Is YourOpinion ?
BDK wrote:
In article , says... BDK wrote: Icom R71a. Was totally dead when I bought it at a hamfest, had a bunch of bad solder joints and really reeked of smoke. Works 100% now, except for LSB has a warbling on it that I can't get rid of. Not bad, just enough to drive me nuts. That's usually from the cheap trimmers on the PLL board. Replacing them with ceramics should do it. I replaced all of them already, maybe one of the new ones is bad. Thanks anyway for the hint. I think there still might be a cracked joint or a part with a bad lead. I pushed around on the PC board and got it to stop ONCE, for about a minute, but I haven't been able to affect it much since then. I got a new can of freeze spray a while back, and may try it and see what happens. It gets slightly worse as it warms up. Slightly. If I can find the part, it should be a 10 minute fix. Then I can sell it for a nice price, since it looks great now. 'From what you describe, a cold solder joint sounds a likely candidate. R71, R7000 and R7100 were particularly prone to deteriorating solder connections. Mostly due to heat generated by the regulator, which was woefully overtaxed. Often, replacing the regulator with something more robust would solve many problems. I was amazed at how many bad looking joints are in every R71A I have looked at, and it's at least a half dozen. Same goes for about every other Icom transceiver made about 20 years ago. Most aren't really bad, but they sure look like they will be. Kenwood's soldering looks better, in general, but my 850 had a lot of bad electrolytics, and whoever decided to put 15V caps in the 13.8 side of that rig should have been canned. Actually, the principles of good design recommend that electrolytics be operated as closely as possible to their rated working voltage. This helps keep the capacitor properly formed over a longer period of time, and it helps reduce leakage. An electrolytic operated an appreciable distance from it's working voltage rating will be more prone to diffuse leakage, though less prone to perforation. A bunch of the 10V ones in my radio were totally dried out, and a few were leaking. About 10 bucks worth of new caps, and a lot of work, and it's very nice now. I have a slight whine on 25-27 mhz, but it goes away with an antenna hooked up. I think it may be normal. Now, that I've NOT encountered. Do let us know if the condition changes. That may be an interesting challenge to hunt down. BDK |
Yaesu FRG100 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 : So Tell Us What Is Your Opinion ?
On Sep 6, 10:17 am, BDK wrote:
In article . com, rhf- says... On Sep 5, 1:35 pm, BDK wrote: In article .com, rhf- says... On Sep 2, 4:17 pm, RHF wrote: On Sep 2, 4:01 pm, Eric F. Richards wrote: BDK wrote: No R-75 I have ever used had any of those problems. BDK Well, I suggest you use Google and read up on my experiences, because I was quite vocal about them in the past. The most R-75 favorable test came out in this thread, started May 5, 2002. Message-ID: For One and All, The Great Debate of Radio User's Opinions : Round # 1 - Drake R8 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 - - - now it would appear it is - - - Round # 2 - Yaesu FRG100 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 So Tell Use Wants Your Opinion ? cause it's simply about shortwave radio ~ RHF . . . . For One and All, The Great Debate of Radio User's Opinions : Round # 1 - Drake R8 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 - - - now it would appear it is - - - Round # 2 - Yaesu FRG100 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 So Tell Us What Is Your Opinion ? cause it's simply about shortwave radio ~ RHF . . . . #1 R8 #2 R75 #3 FRG-100 Not really wanting to own any of them.. BDK- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BDK - Then what do you own ? ~ RHF . At this time: JRC NRD-515 "Gilfer" with the "knobpot" fine tune mod, with 500HZ and 300HZ added filters. 96 Ch mem box, and the crappy sounding NSD-515 speaker I don't use. Bought it 21 years ago last month. Needs a little touch up alignment on the PBT. JRC NRD-525 later production with the Kiwa Ultimate rejection mod, with 1.8KHZ and 500HZ filters added. Kenwood TS-850SAT, with 1.8KHZ SSB filter added. I recently recapped it and changed the battery ..works great. Hammarlund HQ-100, added product detector, and with a whole lot of other mods. Equal or better than anything under 500 bucks I've put against it, except where stability is concerned. Sounds great too. Bought on Ebay for 58.00, including shipping. Only problem has been a 12AX7 went funky and it sounded nasty until I replaced it. Allied SX-190, Weak on all bands except for 9.4-10MHZ, where everything is blasting in now. I still can't figure out why the other bands are so far down. Has to be something minor since the one band is working so well. When I bought it, it was nearly deaf, and was very dirty outside, very clean inside. I put the case through the dishwasher, and it came out looking great, just a few minor scratches on it. All the original light bulbs still work! Icom R71a. Was totally dead when I bought it at a hamfest, had a bunch of bad solder joints and really reeked of smoke. Works 100% now, except for LSB has a warbling on it that I can't get rid of. Not bad, just enough to drive me nuts. Even after trying everything to get rid of it, including washing the case in the dishwasher, it still reeks, just not as bad as it did before. That's it for now.. BDK- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BDK - That's a nice set of Radios in you Shack. How do you like JRC NRD-525 ? I have read somewhere that it is a good AM/MW Dxing Radio - What's your opinion on that ? ~ RHF |
Yaesu FRG100 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 : So Tell Us What Is Your Opinion ?
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Yaesu FRG100 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 : So Tell Us What Is Your Opinion ?
On Sep 7, 9:03 am, BDK wrote:
In article .com, rhf- says... On Sep 6, 10:17 am, BDK wrote: In article . com, rhf- says... On Sep 5, 1:35 pm, BDK wrote: In article .com, rhf- says... On Sep 2, 4:17 pm, RHF wrote: On Sep 2, 4:01 pm, Eric F. Richards wrote: BDK wrote: No R-75 I have ever used had any of those problems. BDK Well, I suggest you use Google and read up on my experiences, because I was quite vocal about them in the past. The most R-75 favorable test came out in this thread, started May 5, 2002. Message-ID: For One and All, The Great Debate of Radio User's Opinions : Round # 1 - Drake R8 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 - - - now it would appear it is - - - Round # 2 - Yaesu FRG100 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 So Tell Use Wants Your Opinion ? cause it's simply about shortwave radio ~ RHF . . . . For One and All, The Great Debate of Radio User's Opinions : Round # 1 - Drake R8 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 - - - now it would appear it is - - - Round # 2 - Yaesu FRG100 -versus- the Icom IC-R75 So Tell Us What Is Your Opinion ? cause it's simply about shortwave radio ~ RHF . . . . #1 R8 #2 R75 #3 FRG-100 Not really wanting to own any of them.. BDK- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BDK - Then what do you own ? ~ RHF . At this time: JRC NRD-515 "Gilfer" with the "knobpot" fine tune mod, with 500HZ and 300HZ added filters. 96 Ch mem box, and the crappy sounding NSD-515 speaker I don't use. Bought it 21 years ago last month. Needs a little touch up alignment on the PBT. JRC NRD-525 later production with the Kiwa Ultimate rejection mod, with 1.8KHZ and 500HZ filters added. Kenwood TS-850SAT, with 1.8KHZ SSB filter added. I recently recapped it and changed the battery ..works great. Hammarlund HQ-100, added product detector, and with a whole lot of other mods. Equal or better than anything under 500 bucks I've put against it, except where stability is concerned. Sounds great too. Bought on Ebay for 58.00, including shipping. Only problem has been a 12AX7 went funky and it sounded nasty until I replaced it. Allied SX-190, Weak on all bands except for 9.4-10MHZ, where everything is blasting in now. I still can't figure out why the other bands are so far down. Has to be something minor since the one band is working so well. When I bought it, it was nearly deaf, and was very dirty outside, very clean inside. I put the case through the dishwasher, and it came out looking great, just a few minor scratches on it. All the original light bulbs still work! Icom R71a. Was totally dead when I bought it at a hamfest, had a bunch of bad solder joints and really reeked of smoke. Works 100% now, except for LSB has a warbling on it that I can't get rid of. Not bad, just enough to drive me nuts. Even after trying everything to get rid of it, including washing the case in the dishwasher, it still reeks, just not as bad as it did before. That's it for now.. BDK- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BDK - That's a nice set of Radios in you Shack. How do you like JRC NRD-525 ? I have read somewhere that it is a good AM/MW Dxing Radio - What's your opinion on that ? ~ RHF . It should be, I primarily do UTES not DX though. It's plenty sensitive down there, especially with the input filter bypassed (By the keyboard command). It works great for everything, pretty much. I had one of the first 525's made and it had a couple of issues that annoyed me a little. The earlier ones hiss pretty bad in general, and if your ears are still good, it will annoy you. Later ones are a lot better. The hiss problem can be solved by just turning the speaker so it's not facing you, so it's not a huge thing. If you are like a lot of my friends in their 40's and 50's, you will say, "What hiss?" My ears are still pretty good, so I just laugh when they say that. Apparently I'm rare, I can still hear past 20khz with my right ear, and to about 17khz with my left. Going to drag races without ear plugs, and having a big dog whose hobby seemed to be yelping like he was being killed every time I started to get out of my car has left a dip in the response in my right ear, right where women's voices are, and so my hearing is crap compared to 20 or 30 years ago, where I could hear quartz watches humming 20 feet away. The early ones had an AGC issue where fast AGC was "clicky" on very strong signals. The later ones don't do this, and the S-Meter isn't nearly as "spastic" as the first ones are. None of this really means anything in any SSB mode, where the 525 is really good. Not quite as sensitive as my 515, or the Drake R7a I had here for a while (fresh from A Drake checkup), but very close. Since my 515 is modded, it's not a really fair comparison. The R7A and the 515 were roughly equal on some freqs, and on the low end the Drake was better, and above 25MHZ, the 515 was more sensitive. Both of them, in the winter when it's quiet, could pick up SSB voice comms that were amazingly weak with perfect copy. If I had to pick one single receiver, I would have to take the 515, just because of the Drake's horrible ergonomics. JRC is the best ever, IMO, in the "pleasure to use" category. Even the later ones, the 535 and 545 are nice to use compared to most other radios. One more thing to watch for if you look at buying a 525, the keypads are wearing out on them, and if a previous owner was a "puncher", it's a headache to fix. JRC used very cheap switches on the pad, so they don't take abuse well, and a couple of the ones I worked on have had broken traces on the front panel PC board. JRC had a ton of the switches, and any other place like Digi-Key sells the same, or close enough to work switches for about 20 cents each. BDK- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - BDK - Thank You for the very informative reply ~ RHF |
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