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On Sep 9, 4:20 am, "Frank Dresser"
wrote: "BDK" wrote in message ... In article , says... Steve wrote: But there should be a national holiday in his honor. It is indeed the Right Stuff! It sure has solved a lot of problems over the years for me. BDK According to some of the posters at rec.antiques.radio+phono,DeOxitis Caig's clone of Cramolin Red, made in Germany. Cramolin has been traced back to an even older product known as Gramolin. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a.../browse_thread... or: http://tinyurl.com/3yemgm Cramolin Red is supposed to be a pretty simple product: "That formula as called out on stick-on labels put on German-made cans is 5% Oleic Acid, 95% hydrocarbons and propellants." http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a.../browse_thread... or: http://tinyurl.com/3dvvq6 A regular at the antique radio and phono had been selling oleic acid as a "DeOxitequivalent" product. Caig sicced their lawyer on him: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a.../browse_thread... or: http://tinyurl.com/2a783g He is still selling the same stuff, now as "Cease and Desist Contact Cleaner". Here's a look at the Caig - Cramolin controversy including a quoted letter from Caig: http://www.pitt.edu/~szekeres/caigcram.htm I've also used some of the less expensive CRC contact cleaners from the hardware store with good results. CRC Lectra Clean has a powerful flammable solvent which will nicely remove carbonized grease. Even tiny droplets of that stuff will ruin paint and a steady spray will bore a hole right through common plastics such as styrene and ABS. CRC QD contact cleaner is much gentler. Both evaporate quickly and leave little or no residue. CRC 2-26 leaves a thicker film thanDeOxitand I don't trust it to try it in pots, but it's been good on switches. 2-26 kept a crummy headphone contact in my Walkman working better thanDeOxit. My last resort cleaner on brass contacts is Tarn-X. I like to work on old radios, and 50 years of age and bad storage can create a corrosion seemingly immune to even the best cleaners. I suppose the cleaners are doing their job, but there's such a bulk of oxidation on the contacts that normal wiping action is often breaking off a new piece of grunge to foul the contact yet again. Tarn-X does a good job of stripping off these oxides, but I fear that stuff will be wicked up into the cloth backing of the Bakelite contact holders and might cause conduction/corrosion problems later, so I give them a good water soaking afterwards followed with plenty of alcohol then CRC QD andDeOxit. I've only had to do this a couple of times and it's worked well. I do like the Caig products but when I run out, I think I'll try the Cease and Desist stuff. Frank Dresser- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh, two things. Tried oleic and it cracked my RCA plastic connectors after two weeks. Won't use cease and desist stuff again - cost me money and lots of time replacing my RCA sockets in my amp. Oh and two, if you spent lots of money developing and trademarking a product and someone came along and claimed they had the same product and called it an "exact" replacement - I think you would get hopping mad. CRC and LPS stuff work well as flushing stuff of parts, but Deoxit always seems to make things better - has ALWAYS worked for me. Mike |
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