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"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
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On Sep 12, 5:11?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message

ups.com...
On Sep 12, 11:36 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:



Actually, based on radio listening, a huge segment of the audience in
Mexico
(more than half) listens to pop and music in English from the US.

You got everything ass-backwards here.

Here's an interesting graph to put all of this in perspective for you:

http://www.quantcast.com/traffic-com...radio.com&doma...

What does that have to do with the racist, Anti-Mexican statement you
made
and the totally inaccurate data on Mexican music you posted? Or is it
simple
obfuscation. If all your facts are equally flawed, you are in serious
trouble.

I never gave my personal opinions - I only quoted an encyclopedia:

http://www.encyclopediaofstupid.com/...ex.php/Mexican

That is a website of nastyness, not an encyclopaedia. Racists tend to find
racist websites.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 12, 11:36 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Actually, based on radio listening, a huge segment of the audience in
Mexico
(more than half) listens to pop and music in English from the US.

You got everything ass-backwards here.

Here's an interesting graph to put all of this in perspective for you:

http://www.quantcast.com/traffic-com...ain4=apple.com

What does that have to do with the racist, Anti-Mexican statement you made
and the totally inaccurate data on Mexican music you posted? Or is it simple
obfuscation. If all your facts are equally flawed, you are in serious
trouble.

Mexican is not a race.

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 12, 11:36 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Actually, based on radio listening, a huge segment of the audience in
Mexico
(more than half) listens to pop and music in English from the US.

You got everything ass-backwards here.

Here's an interesting graph to put all of this in perspective for you:

http://www.quantcast.com/traffic-com...ain4=apple.com

What does that have to do with the racist, Anti-Mexican statement you
made
and the totally inaccurate data on Mexican music you posted? Or is it
simple
obfuscation. If all your facts are equally flawed, you are in serious
trouble.

Mexican is not a race.

Check a dictionary, fool. "Race " is correctly used to describe groups, such
as ethnic or national ones, as well as skin color. In this case, it is a
group of people with a common feature.

Oxford Concise:

race2

n noun

1 each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical
characteristics. Øracial origin or distinction. Øan ethnic group. Øa group
descended from a common ancestor.

2 a group of people or things with a common feature.

3 Biology a distinct population within a species; a subspecies.

ORIGIN

C16: via French from Italian razza, of unknown ultimate origin.

USAGE

In recent years, the associations of race with the ideologies and theories
that grew out of the work of 19th-century anthropologists and physiologists
has led to the use of the word race itself becoming problematic. Although
still used in general contexts, it is now often replaced by other words
which are less emotionally charged, such as people(s) or community.

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"Steve" wrote in message
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2 a group of people or things with a common feature.


That you would bother to track down and paste all of this text from a
dictionary into your post on rec.radio.shortwave is pathetic. Quite
aside from the fact that it doesn't support your case, it speaks
volumes about you, your character, and your stunted development.
Bummer.

Track down? The definition is on click away... I have the CD version of
several of the Oxford dictionaries on my computer for reference, as well as
Encarta and the Larousse and the DRAE Spanish volumes.

The post is relevant since dxAss, in his´perpetual stupor or state of
ignorance, stated that "Mexican" is not a race. By the contemporary
definition of the word "race" which I left, above, he is wrong.

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"David" wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:53:31 GMT, "David Eduardo"
wrote:



"The number of Spanish-language households in Austin [that] have
bought an HD receiver has to be close to zero." (It's worth noting
that Border Media Partners doesn't have Web sites for its stations,
either, so maybe it's not the best gauge of cutting-edge technology.
Spanish-language giant Univision is supporting the launch.)"

Actually, the Jonny Ramírez show on one of our HD2 channels in Austin, and
originated in San Antonio, gets lots of calls form that market, and there
is
both advertiser and consumer interest. Since the Tejano fan has no other
choice in Austin, and the music is part of a distinct lifestyle, the early
response has been considerable.

You do realize that all the full-power FMs from San Antonio are easily
heard in Austin?

But they only get measured listening towards the SA end of the market. The
rest (90% or more) never listens to them)

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David Eduardo wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
oups.com...

2 a group of people or things with a common feature.


That you would bother to track down and paste all of this text from a
dictionary into your post on rec.radio.shortwave is pathetic. Quite
aside from the fact that it doesn't support your case, it speaks
volumes about you, your character, and your stunted development.
Bummer.

Track down? The definition is on click away... I have the CD version of
several of the Oxford dictionaries on my computer for reference, as well as
Encarta and the Larousse and the DRAE Spanish volumes.

The post is relevant since dxAss, in his´perpetual stupor or state of
ignorance, stated that "Mexican" is not a race. By the contemporary
definition of the word "race" which I left, above, he is wrong.

It's a definition perhaps made by folks such as yourself who attempt to label
most anyone who disagrees with your sorry, stinking, traitorous, liberal ideas
as being 'racist'.

Mexican is not a race, 'tardo. It's a nationality.

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On Sep 13, 11:31 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

oups.com...

2 a group of people or things with a common feature.

That you would bother to track down and paste all of this text from a
dictionary into your post on rec.radio.shortwave is pathetic. Quite
aside from the fact that it doesn't support your case, it speaks
volumes about you, your character, and your stunted development.
Bummer.

Track down? The definition is on click away... I have the CD version of
several of the Oxford dictionaries on my computer for reference, as well as
Encarta and the Larousse and the DRAE Spanish volumes.

The post is relevant since dxAss, in his´perpetual stupor or state of
ignorance, stated that "Mexican" is not a race. By the contemporary
definition of the word "race" which I left, above, he is wrong.

The fact that you would go to the trouble to defend your tracking down
and posting of the definition is even more pathetic. Wow. If you
"dictionary" fails to draw a viable distinction between race and
nationality, that's not DxAce's problem.

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On Sep 13, 4:54 am, dxAce wrote:
David Frackelton Gleason, proving yet again that he can be stupid posing as 'Eduardo', wrote:





"dxAce" wrote in message
...

David Eduardo wrote:

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
roups.com...
On Sep 12, 11:36 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Actually, based on radio listening, a huge segment of the audience in
Mexico
(more than half) listens to pop and music in English from the US.

You got everything ass-backwards here.

Here's an interesting graph to put all of this in perspective for you:

http://www.quantcast.com/traffic-com...radio.com&doma...

What does that have to do with the racist, Anti-Mexican statement you
made
and the totally inaccurate data on Mexican music you posted? Or is it
simple
obfuscation. If all your facts are equally flawed, you are in serious
trouble.

Mexican is not a race.

Check a dictionary, fool. "Race " is correctly used to describe groups, such
as ethnic or national ones, as well as skin color. In this case, it is a
group of people with a common feature.

Oxford Concise:

race2

n noun

1 each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical
characteristics. Øracial origin or distinction. Øan ethnic group. Øa group
descended from a common ancestor.

2 a group of people or things with a common feature.

3 Biology a distinct population within a species; a subspecies.

ORIGIN

C16: via French from Italian razza, of unknown ultimate origin.

USAGE

In recent years, the associations of race with the ideologies and theories
that grew out of the work of 19th-century anthropologists and physiologists
has led to the use of the word race itself becoming problematic. Although
still used in general contexts, it is now often replaced by other words
which are less emotionally charged, such as people(s) or community.

Mexican is not a race. It is a nationality.

Pull your head out of you fake Hispanic ass, 'tard boy.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

FWIW - Many Mexicanos Call Themselves "La Raza" {The Race}

They See Themselves {Mexicans} as a Hybrid-Race {The New Man}
Being Both Half-European and Half-Native-America {Indos} and to
Them :
They Are The True Mexicanos = The Mexican National Identity.
La Raza Motto : For The Race Everything - For Everyone Else Nothing

~ RHF
.

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On Sep 13, 2:21 pm, RHF wrote:
On Sep 13, 4:54 am, dxAce wrote:





David Frackelton Gleason, proving yet again that he can be stupid posing as 'Eduardo', wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

David Eduardo wrote:

"IBOCcrock" wrote in message
roups.com...
On Sep 12, 11:36 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Actually, based on radio listening, a huge segment of the audience in
Mexico
(more than half) listens to pop and music in English from the US.

You got everything ass-backwards here.

Here's an interesting graph to put all of this in perspective for you:

http://www.quantcast.com/traffic-com...radio.com&doma...

What does that have to do with the racist, Anti-Mexican statement you
made
and the totally inaccurate data on Mexican music you posted? Or is it
simple
obfuscation. If all your facts are equally flawed, you are in serious
trouble.

Mexican is not a race.

Check a dictionary, fool. "Race " is correctly used to describe groups, such
as ethnic or national ones, as well as skin color. In this case, it is a
group of people with a common feature.

Oxford Concise:

race2

n noun

1 each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical
characteristics. Øracial origin or distinction. Øan ethnic group. Øa group
descended from a common ancestor.

2 a group of people or things with a common feature.

3 Biology a distinct population within a species; a subspecies.

ORIGIN

C16: via French from Italian razza, of unknown ultimate origin.

USAGE

In recent years, the associations of race with the ideologies and theories
that grew out of the work of 19th-century anthropologists and physiologists
has led to the use of the word race itself becoming problematic. Although
still used in general contexts, it is now often replaced by other words
which are less emotionally charged, such as people(s) or community.

Mexican is not a race. It is a nationality.

Pull your head out of you fake Hispanic ass, 'tard boy.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

FWIW - Many Mexicanos Call Themselves "La Raza" {The Race}

They See Themselves {Mexicans} as a Hybrid-Race {The New Man}
Being Both Half-European and Half-Native-America {Indos} and to
Them :
They Are The True Mexicanos = The Mexican National Identity.
La Raza Motto : For The Race Everything - For Everyone Else Nothing

~ RHF
.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And Britney Spears calls herself a "singer".

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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2 a group of people or things with a common feature.


That you would bother to track down and paste all of this text from a
dictionary into your post on rec.radio.shortwave is pathetic. Quite
aside from the fact that it doesn't support your case, it speaks
volumes about you, your character, and your stunted development.
Bummer.

Track down? The definition is on click away... I have the CD version of
several of the Oxford dictionaries on my computer for reference, as well
as
Encarta and the Larousse and the DRAE Spanish volumes.

The post is relevant since dxAss, in his´perpetual stupor or state of
ignorance, stated that "Mexican" is not a race. By the contemporary
definition of the word "race" which I left, above, he is wrong.

It's a definition perhaps made by folks such as yourself who attempt to
label
most anyone who disagrees with your sorry, stinking, traitorous, liberal
ideas
as being 'racist'.

Mexican is not a race, 'tardo. It's a nationality.

Not according to every dictionary I have consulted. "Race" can be both the
distinction of color or a people with a commonality. The most infamous
example would be Hitler's "master race" which was not "white" but Aryan and
very specific in terms of Nazi thinking. Jews are often referred to as a
race, yet they may even be Black like the Ethiopian Jews... but they are a
race based on a specific commonality.

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RHF wrote:

On Sep 13, 1:17 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

ups.com...

FWIW - Many Mexicanos Call Themselves "La Raza" {The Race}

In Spanish, the term "raza" is not quite identical to the English "race" and
in Mexico generally means, using the closest English equivalents, either
"brotherhood" or "the people." "Raza" also means "breed" as in a variety of
dog, horse, cow, etc.

- The "motto" you posted is not Mexican... it is Chicano.

- Chicanos are not Mexican.

d'Eduardo - There are some Chicanos and Mexicans
who would disagree with you.

Many Chicanos and Mexicans use both Etnic-Name-Tags
when ever it suits; them to match to environment that they
are in at the moment*.

* John becomes Juan -and Juan becomes John . . .

And David Frackelton Gleason becomes 'Eduardo'.

It's a milagro!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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dxAcehole, Creator of the Universe and Supreme Commander United Militias
(S.C.U.M.) wrote:

Mexican is not a race.

Neither are the mock Miami in our midst.




mike

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dxAcehole, Creator of the Universe and Supreme Commander United Militias
(S.C.U.M.) wrote:

Mexican is not a race, 'tardo. It's a nationality.



DxAceholism is not a grace, Bozo. It's an infirmity.



mike

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"RHF" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Sep 13, 1:17 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

ups.com...

FWIW - Many Mexicanos Call Themselves "La Raza" {The Race}

In Spanish, the term "raza" is not quite identical to the English "race"
and
in Mexico generally means, using the closest English equivalents, either
"brotherhood" or "the people." "Raza" also means "breed" as in a variety
of
dog, horse, cow, etc.

- The "motto" you posted is not Mexican... it is Chicano.

- Chicanos are not Mexican.

d'Eduardo - There are some Chicanos and Mexicans
who would disagree with you.

Chicano, by definition, means a person of Mexican heritage born in the US...

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"dxAce" wrote in message
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Mexican is not a race, 'tardo. It's a nationality.


Gee, I wonder where all those "Viva la Raza" bumper stickers and T-shirts
came from.

And why would radio stations in Houston, LA, San Francisco and a number of
other markets call themselves "La Raza" if the term did not identify a
specific group of people...

And the National Council of La Raza, a major Hispanic advocacy group.
Explain that one.

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On Sep 13, 7:03 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Sep 13, 1:17 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

roups.com...

FWIW - Many Mexicanos Call Themselves "La Raza" {The Race}

In Spanish, the term "raza" is not quite identical to the English "race"
and
in Mexico generally means, using the closest English equivalents, either
"brotherhood" or "the people." "Raza" also means "breed" as in a variety
of
dog, horse, cow, etc.

- The "motto" you posted is not Mexican... it is Chicano.

- Chicanos are not Mexican.

d'Eduardo - There are some Chicanos and Mexicans
who would disagree with you.


- Chicano, by definition, means a person
- of Mexican heritage born in the US...

d'Eduardo - There You Go Again
Speaking with an Absolute Certainty

Face the Fact that there are 'some' Chicanos
and Mexicans who would disagree with you.

Again there are many Chicanos and Mexicans who use
both Etnic-Name-Tags when ever it suits them; to match
the social environment that they are in at the moment*.

* David becomes d'Eduardo -and Eduardo becomes d'Avid . . .

In Memory of Cuhulin : http://www.devilfinder.com/ 'la raza'

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"RHF" wrote in message
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Face the Fact that there are 'some' Chicanos
and Mexicans who would disagree with you.

Again there are many Chicanos and Mexicans who use
both Etnic-Name-Tags when ever it suits them; to match
the social environment that they are in at the moment*.

I just called several people... those born in Mexico would never consider
themselves Chicanos... the term, to them, is demeaning. Those born here...
most reject the term as it is a zoot-suit stereotype. Very few pochos use it
any more, outside of the fringe and radical MEChA group, which has given the
term a bad name. Our news director in the stations' style guide, does not
allow the use of the term unless part of the name of an organization or in a
quote as he feels it is offensive to many and perceived as politically
incorrect.

In Mexico a Chicano is a person who calls a patio a "yarda" and a truck a
"troka" and who is not a "real" Mexican. Chicanos are parodied in the media
and by comedians.

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m II wrote:

dxAcehole, Creator of the Universe and Supreme Commander United Militias
(S.C.U.M.) wrote:

Mexican is not a race, 'tardo. It's a nationality.

DxAceholism is not a grace, Bozo. It's an infirmity.

Nice to see our resident dumbass Canuck up and running again at full retarded
speed!

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David Eduardo wrote:

"RHF" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Sep 13, 1:17 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

ups.com...

FWIW - Many Mexicanos Call Themselves "La Raza" {The Race}

In Spanish, the term "raza" is not quite identical to the English "race"
and
in Mexico generally means, using the closest English equivalents, either
"brotherhood" or "the people." "Raza" also means "breed" as in a variety
of
dog, horse, cow, etc.

- The "motto" you posted is not Mexican... it is Chicano.

- Chicanos are not Mexican.

d'Eduardo - There are some Chicanos and Mexicans
who would disagree with you.

Chicano, by definition, means a person of Mexican heritage born in the US...

So therefore, Chifako, by definition, means a person of fake Hispanic heritage
born in the US...

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

Mexican is not a race, 'tardo. It's a nationality.


Gee, I wonder where all those "Viva la Raza" bumper stickers and T-shirts
came from.

And why would radio stations in Houston, LA, San Francisco and a number of
other markets call themselves "La Raza" if the term did not identify a
specific group of people...

And the National Council of La Raza, a major Hispanic advocacy group.
Explain that one.

From what I've heard the National Council of La Raza is a racist organization,
and that you are one of their useful idiots.

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On Sep 13, 10:03 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Sep 13, 1:17 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

roups.com...

FWIW - Many Mexicanos Call Themselves "La Raza" {The Race}

In Spanish, the term "raza" is not quite identical to the English "race"
and
in Mexico generally means, using the closest English equivalents, either
"brotherhood" or "the people." "Raza" also means "breed" as in a variety
of
dog, horse, cow, etc.

- The "motto" you posted is not Mexican... it is Chicano.

- Chicanos are not Mexican.

d'Eduardo - There are some Chicanos and Mexicans
who would disagree with you.

Chicano, by definition, means a person of Mexican heritage born in the US...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Right. Mexican.

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On Sep 13, 10:06 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...



Mexican is not a race, 'tardo. It's a nationality.

Gee, I wonder where all those "Viva la Raza" bumper stickers and T-shirts
came from.

And why would radio stations in Houston, LA, San Francisco and a number of
other markets call themselves "La Raza" if the term did not identify a
specific group of people...

And the National Council of La Raza, a major Hispanic advocacy group.
Explain that one.

"La Raza" might identify a group of people by virtue of something
other than the semantics of the term. In a moment of irony or as a
result of a simple error, I might succeed at referring to you as "the
well-intentioned contributor to rec.radio.shortwave" despite the fact
that you do not satisfy the description.

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On Sep 14, 3:50 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

ups.com...



Face the Fact that there are 'some' Chicanos
and Mexicans who would disagree with you.

Again there are many Chicanos and Mexicans who use
both Etnic-Name-Tags when ever it suits them; to match
the social environment that they are in at the moment*.

I just called several people... those born in Mexico would never consider
themselves Chicanos... the term, to them, is demeaning. Those born here...
most reject the term as it is a zoot-suit stereotype. Very few pochos use it
any more, outside of the fringe and radical MEChA group, which has given the
term a bad name. Our news director in the stations' style guide, does not
allow the use of the term unless part of the name of an organization or in a
quote as he feels it is offensive to many and perceived as politically
incorrect.

In Mexico a Chicano is a person who calls a patio a "yarda" and a truck a
"troka" and who is not a "real" Mexican. Chicanos are parodied in the media
and by comedians.

Any why are you rambling on about this?

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dxAce wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

"RHF" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Sep 13, 1:17 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

ups.com...

FWIW - Many Mexicanos Call Themselves "La Raza" {The Race}
In Spanish, the term "raza" is not quite identical to the English "race"
and
in Mexico generally means, using the closest English equivalents, either
"brotherhood" or "the people." "Raza" also means "breed" as in a variety
of
dog, horse, cow, etc.

- The "motto" you posted is not Mexican... it is Chicano.

- Chicanos are not Mexican.

d'Eduardo - There are some Chicanos and Mexicans
who would disagree with you.
Chicano, by definition, means a person of Mexican heritage born in the US...

So therefore, Chifako, by definition, means a person of fake Hispanic heritage
born in the US...





Or the Governor of Illinois.

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David Eduardo wrote:

SNIP
The Oxford Dictionary of American English is generally considered to be the
most authoritative reference to contemporary language and usage there is.



Only of American style English!

--
M0WYM
www.radiowymsey.org

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"charlie" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

SNIP
The Oxford Dictionary of American English is generally considered to be
the
most authoritative reference to contemporary language and usage there is.



Only of American style English!


And that is why I used it. I also have the British version and the
"International" version, mon.

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On Sep 14, 5:04 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

ups.com...



On Sep 14, 12:14 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message

...

David, posing as the chifako 'Eduardo', wrote:

"charlie" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

SNIP
The Oxford Dictionary of American English is generally considered
to
be
the
most authoritative reference to contemporary language and usage
there
is.

Only of American style English!

And that is why I used it. I also have the British version and the
"International" version, mon.

So therefore, Chifako, by definition, means a person of fake Hispanic
heritage
born in the US...

- All Chicanos are born in the US.

d'Eduardo - Point-of-Fact : Not True - Think About It ! ~ RHF
.

A Chicano is, and only is, a born American of Mexican heritage.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

d'Edaurdo here is what you wrote the first time :

"All Chicanos are born in the US."

Now you have revised it; and here is what you are writing now:

"A Chicano is, and only is, a born American of Mexican heritage."

There is a 'big' difference in the two statements.

~ RHF

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On Sep 14, 8:33 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

...

.
A Chicano is, and only is, a born American of Mexican heritage.

Not according to my dictionaries. It refers to more than that.
1. A Mexican born person living in N. A.

In this case, the dictionary is wrong. Chicanos are definitely not Mexican
born. No Mexican born Hispanic is a Chicano/a.

2. A person of Mexican decent (born in the USA) living in N. A.
3. A person of about which issues of Mexican heritage living in N. A. is
spoken of in some way.

Since when did this definition become derogatory? The collage's in the
area used to have courses in Chicano studies and maybe still do as I
haven't checked.

Those who consider themselves Chicano do not mind being called as same and
self-identify that way. But to call, for example, a Tejano a "Chicano" might
be scoffed at or even be cause for resentment. Tejanos are also
born-in-the-USA descendents of Mexican immigrants. I surveyed about 20
born-here's in our promotion department who are here now prepping for our
September 16 concert event and none considered themselves to be Chicanos;
none knew any Chicanos. I asked what a Chicano was to them (all between 18
and about 26) and they said, in different ways, "an arrogant college kid who
wants to coast through school on their name." The oldest said, "those guys
in East LA in the suits that Cheech made fun of." All said being called a
Chicano would be considered as "fighting words."

And I asked one of our highest rated talk personalities (over 2 million
listeners in 12 major markets) who was born in Mexico and she said she would
not be offended by being called a Chicana, but would immediately clarify
that she was Mexican, born in Mexico and could not be a Chicana. This is
from Amalia Gonzalez of the Recuerdo Network who talks with listeners all
over the Southwest every day.

Chicano studies are related to the Mexican American experience in the US,
not the immigrant experience.

The MEChA group, The Aztlan Chicano Student Movement, in its manifest, wants
to establish the country of Aztlan in the Southwest, independent of the USA
and Mexico, because they believe they are not truly part of the US or of
Mexico, are not given full rights, and are discriminated against by
Americans for being Hispanic and by Mexicans for being American and not
speaking any / good Spanish and having abandoned Mexican culture.

Again, from the Oxford dictionary: Chicano n noun (feminine Chicana) (plural
Chicanos or Chicanas) chiefly United States a North American of Mexican
origin or descent.

And Encarta; Chi·ca·no (plural Chi·ca·nos) noun
Hispanic Mexican American man: a North American man or boy of Mexican
descent (sometimes offensive)

Chicano and Chicana refer only to Mexican Americans. They do not refer to
Mexican residents of Mexico. Historically, Chicano is a dialectal variant of
the Mexican Spanish word mexicano, "a Mexican," and Chicana is its feminine
form. Since opinions about these words can and do differ among the various
U.S. Mexican American communities, Mexican American is a preferred
substitute.

And Wikipedia Chicano (feminine Chicana) is another word for Mexican
American. While its meaning has changed over time and varies regionally, it
represents Mexican American ethnic identity and the accompanying
consciousness of Mexican American political struggle. The terms Chicano and
Chicana are used specifically by and regarding Americans of Mexican descent.

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On Sep 15, 10:36 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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d'Eduardo - Point-of-Fact : Not True - Think About It ! ~ RHF
.

A Chicano is, and only is, a born American of Mexican heritage.- Hide
quoted text -

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d'Edaurdo here is what you wrote the first time :

"All Chicanos are born in the US."

Now you have revised it; and here is what you are writing now:

"A Chicano is, and only is, a born American of Mexican heritage."

There is a 'big' difference in the two statements.

All Chicanos are born in the US. A Chicano can not be born elsewhere. All
are born in the US of parents of Mexican heritage... in other words, a
Chicano is a Mexican American, but not all Mexican Americans consider
themselves Chicanos.- Hide quoted text -

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Some Chicanos work in sales, but not all salesmen are Chicanos.

Some Chicanos are young, but not all young people are Chicanos

Some Chicanos like to jog, but not all joggers are Chicanos.

Gosh Tardo, this sure is a fun game you've invented.

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On Sep 15, 7:36 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

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d'Eduardo - Point-of-Fact : Not True - Think About It ! ~ RHF
.

A Chicano is, and only is, a born American of Mexican heritage.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

d'Edaurdo here is what you wrote the first time :

"All Chicanos are born in the US."

Now you have revised it; and here is what you are writing now:

"A Chicano is, and only is, a born American of Mexican heritage."

There is a 'big' difference in the two statements.

- All Chicanos are born in the US.

wrong, Wrong. WRONG !
* You are Speaking in Absolutes without Considering :
People + Places + Things {Jobs}

- A Chicano can not be born elsewhere.

wrong, Wrong. WRONG !
* Better Check Your Thinking Again.

- All are born in the US of parents of Mexican heritage...

Not Both - One Will Do -or- If your are raised by your
Mexican or Mexcan-American Grand-Parents.

- in other words, a Chicano is a Mexican American,

Good enough.

- but not all Mexican Americans consider themselves Chicanos.

That Is Very True.
* and Some Even Hate Their Own Heritage.
* * While a few 'others' Talk about "Those People"
-wrt- the current 12M Illegal Aliens from Mexico.

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On Sep 15, 7:48 am, Steve wrote:
On Sep 15, 10:36 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:





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d'Eduardo - Point-of-Fact : Not True - Think About It ! ~ RHF
.

A Chicano is, and only is, a born American of Mexican heritage.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

d'Edaurdo here is what you wrote the first time :

"All Chicanos are born in the US."

Now you have revised it; and here is what you are writing now:

"A Chicano is, and only is, a born American of Mexican heritage."

There is a 'big' difference in the two statements.

All Chicanos are born in the US. A Chicano can not be born elsewhere. All
are born in the US of parents of Mexican heritage... in other words, a
Chicano is a Mexican American, but not all Mexican Americans consider
themselves Chicanos.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Some Chicanos live in California are Californians, but not all
Californians are Chicanos.- Hide quoted text -

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Some Chicanos live in California are Californianos,
but not all Californians are Chicanos.

Many Californians are Gringos ~43% ~ RHF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California#Demographics

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"Steve" wrote in message
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The investment was less in cost than the last new studio we built in
LA...
one single studio (out of 16)... so the issue is not the investment,
which
is minor. The issue is moving terrestrial, free, radio into the digital
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The issue is moving lots and lots of money into the pockets of
stockholders.


No, it is not.

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El Sorprender Hormona Humana Del Crecimiento (HHdC)
HHdC = http://rajeun.net/comprando.html
http://usuarios.lycos.es/Megamuscle/...rmonacreci.htm
Usted puede obtener sí resultados increíbles

ahora nos estamos comunicando
apenas para la diversión de ella ~ RHF

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David Eduardo wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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The investment was less in cost than the last new studio we built in
LA...
one single studio (out of 16)... so the issue is not the investment,
which
is minor. The issue is moving terrestrial, free, radio into the digital
era.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The issue is moving lots and lots of money into the pockets of
stockholders.


No, it is not.

Liar, liar, pantalunes on fire!

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On Sep 16, 1:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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The investment was less in cost than the last new studio we built in
LA...
one single studio (out of 16)... so the issue is not the investment,
which
is minor. The issue is moving terrestrial, free, radio into the digital
era.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The issue is moving lots and lots of money into the pockets of
stockholders.

No, it is not.

Yes, it is.

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"Steve" wrote in message
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On Sep 16, 1:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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The investment was less in cost than the last new studio we built in
LA...
one single studio (out of 16)... so the issue is not the investment,
which
is minor. The issue is moving terrestrial, free, radio into the
digital
era.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The issue is moving lots and lots of money into the pockets of
stockholders.

No, it is not.

Yes, it is.

If there are no publicly traded shares to establish a price, any share
transactions are negotiated between the existing shareholders. Options and
similar executive incentives are only of value when exercised. Since there
have been no changes in the existing ownership, there is no opportunity for
any profits. And since iBiquity is not profitable, there are no dividends,
either (most startups and small cap companies don't pay dividends generally,
either).

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On Sep 16, 7:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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On Sep 16, 1:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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The investment was less in cost than the last new studio we built in
LA...
one single studio (out of 16)... so the issue is not the investment,
which
is minor. The issue is moving terrestrial, free, radio into the
digital
era.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The issue is moving lots and lots of money into the pockets of
stockholders.

No, it is not.

Yes, it is.

If there are no publicly traded shares to establish a price, any share
transactions are negotiated between the existing shareholders. Options and
similar executive incentives are only of value when exercised. Since there
have been no changes in the existing ownership, there is no opportunity for
any profits. And since iBiquity is not profitable, there are no dividends,
either (most startups and small cap companies don't pay dividends generally,
either).- Hide quoted text -

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And are you saying that IBiquity wants and intends to remain
unprofitable?

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On Sep 16, 7:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

And are you saying that IBiquity wants and intends to remain
unprofitable?


It's a developmental startup.

Satellite radio began development in the early 90's, and is losing about a
billion dollars a year... yet the companies involved believe they can be
profitable in the future and give value to the shareholders.

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On Sep 16, 7:43 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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On Sep 16, 7:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

And are you saying that IBiquity wants and intends to remain
unprofitable?

It's a developmental startup.

Satellite radio began development in the early 90's, and is losing about a
billion dollars a year... yet the companies involved believe they can be
profitable in the future and give value to the shareholders.

Right. It's about the money.

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"Steve" wrote in message
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On Sep 16, 7:43 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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On Sep 16, 7:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

And are you saying that IBiquity wants and intends to remain
unprofitable?

It's a developmental startup.

Satellite radio began development in the early 90's, and is losing about
a
billion dollars a year... yet the companies involved believe they can be
profitable in the future and give value to the shareholders.

Right. It's about the money.

Without money, there is no free radio. You can always pay $150 a year for
satellite... because that is the satellite model, also about money. One gets
ad revenues, the other charges the listeners. Your choice.