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HD Hypocrisy
"HD Hypocrisy"
"Here's a few more reasons why only iBiquity and a few clueless radio group heads could make a big thing out of HD radio tagging... The very damn radio stations that broadcast in HD offer no programming worth listening to. HD Radio is a virtual sewer of formats owners don't want on their terrestrial frequencies and other assorted garbage that no one sane would listen to -- let alone spend money for new radios -- tagging or not." http://insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com...hypocrisy.html The HD channels at clearchannelmusic.com/hdradio are a virtual sewer - try "personalized" music at slacker.com! |
HD Hypocrisy
HD Radio is the ONLY solution I can come up with in order to listen to
ANY AM station in my city - even the very powerful signals - while in my home office, where I spend a good deal of time. With dimmer switches, electronic air cleaners, computer, etc. etc. the noise level wipes out all signals. I have to go to another room in the house if I want to listen to AM analog. HD Radio is a blessing for me. With so many complaining about the interference it causes on analog signals - someone please tell me which analog station(s) in the Fresno area are getting this interference. I can't locate ANY analog station with ANY interference when in a "quiet" room in my home, and there are MANY HD stations broadcasting in Fresno. I use both the CCRadio and the CCRadio-SW and just don't have that problem, or at least haven't been able to identify it. I understand some of the complaints, but the industry isn't concerned with those who dx. In fact, I have the problem with television signals. When I moved to the Fresno area from Sacramento, I paid $1,000 for a large tv antenna installation so that I could pick up the major stations from Sacramento, about 180 miles from me. Shortly after paying $1,000, the low-powered stations started appearing all over the dial and wiped out channels 3 and 13 from Sacramento, channel 12 from Santa Barbara, channel 8 from Salinas, etc. But that's life. TV and Radio are for the masses, NOT just the few who dx as a hobby. HDTV has solved the tv problem for me as now I get channels 3 and 13 on digital tv. HD Radio solves the problem I have with too much electrical noise on AM. No one really cares about the hobbiest. We are left out of the picture when technology changes. |
(OT) : AM/MW "HD" Radio - Any Positive Listening Experiences ?
On Sep 10, 10:31 pm, wrote:
HD Radio is the ONLY solution I can come up with in order to listen to ANY AM station in my city - even the very powerful signals - while in my home office, where I spend a good deal of time. With dimmer switches, electronic air cleaners, computer, etc. etc. the noise level wipes out all signals. I have to go to another room in the house if I want to listen to AM analog. HD Radio is a blessing for me. With so many complaining about the interference it causes on analog signals - someone please tell me which analog station(s) in the Fresno area are getting this interference. I can't locate ANY analog station with ANY interference when in a "quiet" room in my home, and there are MANY HD stations broadcasting in Fresno. I use both the CCRadio and the CCRadio-SW and just don't have that problem, or at least haven't been able to identify it. I understand some of the complaints, but the industry isn't concerned with those who dx. In fact, I have the problem with television signals. When I moved to the Fresno area from Sacramento, I paid $1,000 for a large tv antenna installation so that I could pick up the major stations from Sacramento, about 180 miles from me. Shortly after paying $1,000, the low-powered stations started appearing all over the dial and wiped out channels 3 and 13 from Sacramento, channel 12 from Santa Barbara, channel 8 from Salinas, etc. But that's life. - TV and Radio are for the masses, - NOT just the few who dx as a hobby. GA - Radio and Television : They don't call them Mass Media for nothing -aka- Media for the Masses. HDTV has solved the tv problem for me as now I get channels 3 and 13 on digital tv. HD Radio solves the problem I have with too much electrical noise on AM. No one really cares about the hobbiest. We are left out of the picture when technology changes. GA, A very valid statement by an AM/MW Radio Listener about the 'positive' side of "HD" AM/MW Radio in today's Noisy Urban Radio Listening Environment. I still need to take the Radi-osophy HD100 down to Oakland, CA to try it out in an Urban Area with many Strong Local Signals to try it out; and see what I can hear. Up here in Twain Harte, CA - All I get is the Blinking Blue Light and No "HD" Signal Lock. Plus I have noticed some Digital Hash on a few of the formerly 'clear' AM/MW Radio Signals from : KNBR 680 kHz KCBS 740 kHz KGO 810 kHz Using a CCRadioPlus+ Radio ; GE Superadio III Radio; Grundig S350 Radio; or a Redsun RP2100 Radio; and a Select-A-Tenna : I use to be able to Tune any of the above SF Bay Area AM/MW Radios Stations and hear Perfectly "Clear" Audio. Now there is always some buzz or hiss that is part of the Sound being heard. life exists and radio listening happens beyond the 10 mv/m contour ~ RHF { where iboc 'hd' radio fears to go } |
HD Hypocrisy
wrote in message ups.com... HD Radio is the ONLY solution I can come up with in order to listen to ANY AM station in my city - even the very powerful signals - while in my home office, where I spend a good deal of time. With dimmer switches, electronic air cleaners, computer, etc. etc. the noise level wipes out all signals. I have to go to another room in the house if I want to listen to AM analog. This sounds like the FCC needs to look at actually ENFORCING Part 15 rules, rather than FORCING people to stop listening to whatever radio station they wish. |
(OT) : The Growth of Part 15 Items Is Saturating The Environment With RFI Noise
On Sep 10, 11:52 pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... HD Radio is the ONLY solution I can come up with in order to listen to ANY AM station in my city - even the very powerful signals - while in my home office, where I spend a good deal of time. With dimmer switches, electronic air cleaners, computer, etc. etc. the noise level wipes out all signals. I have to go to another room in the house if I want to listen to AM analog. This sounds like the FCC needs to look at actually ENFORCING Part 15 rules, rather than FORCING people to stop listening to whatever radio station they wish. BAD - Think About It . . . How Many Part 15 'qualified' Devices did you have in your Home 40 Years ago ? Guesstimate/Count ___ How Many Part 15 'qualified' Devices did you have in your Home 20 Years ago ? Guesstimate/Count ___ How Many Part 15 'qualified' Devices did you have in your Home 10 Years ago ? Guesstimate/Count ___ How Many Part 15 'qualified' Devices did you have in your Home 5 Years ago ? Guesstimate/Count ___ How Many Part 15 'qualified' Devices did you have in your Home 1 Year ago ? Guesstimate/Count ___ How Many Part 15 'qualified' Devices do you have in your Home Today ? Actual Count ___ It may be that it is not Part 15 that is the Problem : It Is The Growth of Part 15 Items That Is Saturating The Environment That Is The Problem. ? Have You Reached Part 15 Critical Mass ? { Within Your Home and/or Office } Tip {Clue} - Batteries are Not the Answer. and that is . . . something to think about ~ RHF |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 11, 1:31 am, wrote:
HD Radio is the ONLY solution I can come up with in order to listen to ANY AM station in my city - even the very powerful signals - while in my home office, where I spend a good deal of time. With dimmer switches, electronic air cleaners, computer, etc. etc. the noise level wipes out all signals. I have to go to another room in the house if I want to listen to AM analog. HD Radio is a blessing for me. So, because you can't hear any analog signals in your home office, you're content to support HD, which will allow you to hear what you want to hear while effectively wiping out everything on analog. I see. And of course, when you leave your home office, your options will be limited by all the familiar limitations plaguing HD. And this sounds like a good deal to you? Have you ever heard of internet radio? I think you'll find that it's quite effective in your home office environment. With so many complaining about the interference it causes on analog signals - someone please tell me which analog station(s) in the Fresno area are getting this interference. I can't locate ANY analog station with ANY interference when in a "quiet" room in my home, and there are MANY HD stations broadcasting in Fresno. That's odd. I travel a fair amount and almost never find myself in a place where the interference isn't very noticeable. I use both the CCRadio and the CCRadio-SW and just don't have that problem, or at least haven't been able to identify it. Don't worry. You will. Just give it a little time. I understand some of the complaints, but the industry isn't concerned with those who dx. In fact, I have the problem with television signals. When I moved to the Fresno area from Sacramento, I paid $1,000 for a large tv antenna installation so that I could pick up the major stations from Sacramento, about 180 miles from me. Shortly after paying $1,000, the low-powered stations started appearing all over the dial and wiped out channels 3 and 13 from Sacramento, channel 12 from Santa Barbara, channel 8 from Salinas, etc. But that's life. TV and Radio are for the masses, NOT just the few who dx as a hobby. HDTV has solved the tv problem for me as now I get channels 3 and 13 on digital tv. HD Radio solves the problem I have with too much electrical noise on AM. DXers may be one thin slice of the population, but the option to DX is one that many people value, whether they (currently) DX very often or not. Besides, it's only a small slice of the population who ever gets around to visiting Lake Tahoe. So, should we allow Ibiquity to turn it into a chemical dump? (It would be really, really convenient for a lot folks if we did turn it into a chemical dump, you understand. There's a whole lot of chemical waste out there...). No one really cares about the hobbiest. We are left out of the picture when technology changes. I wouldn't even think of MW DX as the realm of hobbyists in the way that SW DX is. A lot of people don't even have the foggiest idea what SW is, let alone what SW DX is. Very few people in the US listen even to strong signals on SW, let alone weak ones. The situation's (very) different with MW. |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 11, 1:31 am, wrote:
HD Radio is the ONLY solution I can come up with in order to listen to ANY AM station in my city - even the very powerful signals - while in my home office, where I spend a good deal of time. With dimmer switches, electronic air cleaners, computer, etc. etc. the noise level wipes out all signals. I have to go to another room in the house if I want to listen to AM analog. HD Radio is a blessing for me. With so many complaining about the interference it causes on analog signals - someone please tell me which analog station(s) in the Fresno area are getting this interference. I can't locate ANY analog station with ANY interference when in a "quiet" room in my home, and there are MANY HD stations broadcasting in Fresno. I use both the CCRadio and the CCRadio-SW and just don't have that problem, or at least haven't been able to identify it. I understand some of the complaints, but the industry isn't concerned with those who dx. In fact, I have the problem with television signals. When I moved to the Fresno area from Sacramento, I paid $1,000 for a large tv antenna installation so that I could pick up the major stations from Sacramento, about 180 miles from me. Shortly after paying $1,000, the low-powered stations started appearing all over the dial and wiped out channels 3 and 13 from Sacramento, channel 12 from Santa Barbara, channel 8 from Salinas, etc. But that's life. TV and Radio are for the masses, NOT just the few who dx as a hobby. HDTV has solved the tv problem for me as now I get channels 3 and 13 on digital tv. HD Radio solves the problem I have with too much electrical noise on AM. No one really cares about the hobbiest. We are left out of the picture when technology changes. Here you go: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...8249&CatId=197 You'll be using this long after no one in this group can remember what HD radio was. |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 11, 5:07 am, Steve wrote:
DXers may be one thin slice of the population, but the option to DX is one that many people value, whether they (currently) DX very often or not. Again, what we value as a small group just doesn't matter to the masses. I am disappointed that DISH NETWORK and DIRECT TV are not allowed, by law, to sell me a package with out-of-town stations without my local stations agreeing, which they won't. I can spend $1,000 for a large tv antenna installation and pick up many out-of- town stations, but I can't subscribe to get those SAME stations on satellite. The reason -- the industry does NOT want me (or anyone else) watching out-of-town stations because that means I am not watching the local stations with local commercials. I tried getting waivers from the local stations and every one of them refused. I have been both a radio and tv dxer for over 50 years and know the fun and excitement this hobby has given me. MOST tv dxing is done on channels 2 through 6. In 2009, looks like that hobby will be history. |
HD Hypocrisy
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Again, what we value as a small group just doesn't matter to the masses. I am disappointed that DISH NETWORK and DIRECT TV are not allowed, by law, to sell me a package with out-of-town stations without my local stations agreeing, which they won't. I can spend $1,000 for a large tv antenna installation and pick up many out-of- town stations, but I can't subscribe to get those SAME stations on satellite. The reason -- the industry does NOT want me (or anyone else) watching out-of-town stations because that means I am not watching the local stations with local commercials. I tried getting waivers from the local stations and every one of them refused. YOu see that all the time with AM broadcast radio. When the local station dropped Art Bell some years back, moving to an all-news format, one local columnist lamented that it was the end of Art Bell. But one station in Vermont carried it. And it's really easy to receive that New York station at 770KHz that carried the show, along with all kind of other stations up and down the dial. Yet people never tuned up and down that dial, assuming that they'd not be able to receive anything. And yes, that's what the local stations want, because they want the listenership to their ads. Oddly, a station like WBZ out of Boston even makes an issue of this. I don't know about them lately, their reception here has been curtailed by a more local station on an adjacent frequency, but at one point they acknowledged that most overnight radio was syndicated, and basically the same syndicated show, but they were live, and they covered a really big area. The overnight announcers, maybe even the bumpers, made a point of mention that there were listeners in faraway places. And I treated it like a local talk show. There were some obvious differences in what was discussed, but it came booming in here and except for the fading, was strong enough to be local. I initially started listening to WBZ overnight when there wasn't something of interest on the local stations at that time (too much syndicated talk shows, and at one point one station was airing repeats of programming from the daytime), but for a number of years I was pretty much listening to WBZ overnight. Michael |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 11, 9:15 am, (Michael Black) wrote:
) writes: Again, what we value as a small group just doesn't matter to the masses. I am disappointed that DISH NETWORK and DIRECT TV are not allowed, by law, to sell me a package with out-of-town stations without my local stations agreeing, which they won't. I can spend $1,000 for a large tv antenna installation and pick up many out-of- town stations, but I can't subscribe to get those SAME stations on satellite. The reason -- the industry does NOT want me (or anyone else) watching out-of-town stations because that means I am not watching the local stations with local commercials. I tried getting waivers from the local stations and every one of them refused. YOu see that all the time with AM broadcast radio. When the local station dropped Art Bell some years back, moving to an all-news format, one local columnist lamented that it was the end of Art Bell. But one station in Vermont carried it. And it's really easy to receive that New York station at 770KHz that carried the show, along with all kind of other stations up and down the dial. Yet people never tuned up and down that dial, assuming that they'd not be able to receive anything. And yes, that's what the local stations want, because they want the listenership to their ads. Oddly, a station like WBZ out of Boston even makes an issue of this. I don't know about them lately, their reception here has been curtailed by a more local station on an adjacent frequency, but at one point they acknowledged that most overnight radio was syndicated, and basically the same syndicated show, but they were live, and they covered a really big area. The overnight announcers, maybe even the bumpers, made a point of mention that there were listeners in faraway places. And I treated it like a local talk show. There were some obvious differences in what was discussed, but it came booming in here and except for the fading, was strong enough to be local. I initially started listening to WBZ overnight when there wasn't something of interest on the local stations at that time (too much syndicated talk shows, and at one point one station was airing repeats of programming from the daytime), but for a number of years I was pretty much listening to WBZ overnight. Michael MB, KGO-AM on 810 kHz makes it a point with their Over-Night Talk-Radio Call-in Show to take Callers from all over the West Coast from San Diego to Alaska. IMHO - KGO is what every 50 KW "Clear-Channel" AM/MW Radio Station should be : * Regional Coverage and Programming to Match * Original Local Hosts and Programming * No Syndication Allowed Resulting in 100 Distinct Radio Voices Across the Nation ~ RHF |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 11, 6:14 am, Steve wrote:
On Sep 11, 1:31 am, wrote: HD Radio is the ONLY solution I can come up with in order to listen to ANY AM station in my city - even the very powerful signals - while in my home office, where I spend a good deal of time. With dimmer switches, electronic air cleaners, computer, etc. etc. the noise level wipes out all signals. I have to go to another room in the house if I want to listen to AM analog. HD Radio is a blessing for me. With so many complaining about the interference it causes on analog signals - someone please tell me which analog station(s) in the Fresno area are getting this interference. I can't locate ANY analog station with ANY interference when in a "quiet" room in my home, and there are MANY HD stations broadcasting in Fresno. I use both the CCRadio and the CCRadio-SW and just don't have that problem, or at least haven't been able to identify it. I understand some of the complaints, but the industry isn't concerned with those who dx. In fact, I have the problem with television signals. When I moved to the Fresno area from Sacramento, I paid $1,000 for a large tv antenna installation so that I could pick up the major stations from Sacramento, about 180 miles from me. Shortly after paying $1,000, the low-powered stations started appearing all over the dial and wiped out channels 3 and 13 from Sacramento, channel 12 from Santa Barbara, channel 8 from Salinas, etc. But that's life. TV and Radio are for the masses, NOT just the few who dx as a hobby. HDTV has solved the tv problem for me as now I get channels 3 and 13 on digital tv. HD Radio solves the problem I have with too much electrical noise on AM. No one really cares about the hobbiest. We are left out of the picture when technology changes. Here you go: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...m-details.asp?... You'll be using this long after no one in this group can remember what HD radio was.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...8249&CatId=197 Oxx Digital Wireless Internet Radio and Music Center http://www.tigerdirect.com/include/A...1000&imgcart=1 Steve, * Requires a Computer / WiFi Network * Plus Monthly Costs for Internet Service Real Radio is FREE ! ~ RHF |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 11, 8:34 am, RHF wrote:
KGO-AM on 810 kHz makes it a point with their Over-Night Talk-Radio Call-in Show to take Callers from all over the West Coast from San Diego to Alaska. Of course, but KGO does NOT want people living in San Francisco to be listening to an out-of-town station. KMJ in Fresno also makes a point of having listeners from all over the West Coast, but KMJ does NOT want listeners IN Fresno to be listening to KGO or any other out-of- town station. All the stations love people to be listening from out of town, but NONE of the stations want people in their city to be listening to out-of-town stations. Same with TV. KGO-7 in San Francisco loved it when I told one of their engineers that I was getting their signal in Clovis (Fresno). They even offered to send me a gift (forgot what, but I think it was a t-shirt) if I would tape it and send it to them. But do you think KGO-7 would give someone in San Francisco a waiver so they could get the KABC from Los Angeles on Dish Network? It's a one-way deal with these stations. |
HD Hypocrisy
"RHF" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 11, 9:15 am, (Michael Black) wrote: IMHO - KGO is what every 50 KW "Clear-Channel" AM/MW Radio Station should be : * Regional Coverage and Programming to Match * Original Local Hosts and Programming * No Syndication Allowed Resulting in 100 Distinct Radio Voices Across the Nation And revenues off by a third since 2000. |
HD Hypocrisy
David Eduardo wrote: "RHF" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 11, 9:15 am, (Michael Black) wrote: IMHO - KGO is what every 50 KW "Clear-Channel" AM/MW Radio Station should be : * Regional Coverage and Programming to Match * Original Local Hosts and Programming * No Syndication Allowed Resulting in 100 Distinct Radio Voices Across the Nation And revenues off by a third since 2000. 2000? Isn't that when you adopted the 'Eduardo' shtick? |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 11, 11:44 am, wrote:
On Sep 11, 5:07 am, Steve wrote: DXers may be one thin slice of the population, but the option to DX is one that many people value, whether they (currently) DX very often or not. Again, what we value as a small group just doesn't matter to the masses. I am disappointed that DISH NETWORK and DIRECT TV are not allowed, by law, to sell me a package with out-of-town stations without my local stations agreeing, which they won't. I can spend $1,000 for a large tv antenna installation and pick up many out-of- town stations, but I can't subscribe to get those SAME stations on satellite. The reason -- the industry does NOT want me (or anyone else) watching out-of-town stations because that means I am not watching the local stations with local commercials. I tried getting waivers from the local stations and every one of them refused. I have been both a radio and tv dxer for over 50 years and know the fun and excitement this hobby has given me. MOST tv dxing is done on channels 2 through 6. In 2009, looks like that hobby will be history. Again, having the option to DX matters to many people in much the way that having the option to one day visit Lake Tahoe does. So, the "masses: aren't the problem. The problem is companies like Ibiquity that will gladly destroy a big swath of the spectrum in order to turn a quick profit. The only good news is that it will be a quick and shortlived profit, as the business model of HD (or at any rate HD AM) is laughable. |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 11, 12:39 pm, RHF wrote:
On Sep 11, 6:14 am, Steve wrote: On Sep 11, 1:31 am, wrote: HD Radio is the ONLY solution I can come up with in order to listen to ANY AM station in my city - even the very powerful signals - while in my home office, where I spend a good deal of time. With dimmer switches, electronic air cleaners, computer, etc. etc. the noise level wipes out all signals. I have to go to another room in the house if I want to listen to AM analog. HD Radio is a blessing for me. With so many complaining about the interference it causes on analog signals - someone please tell me which analog station(s) in the Fresno area are getting this interference. I can't locate ANY analog station with ANY interference when in a "quiet" room in my home, and there are MANY HD stations broadcasting in Fresno. I use both the CCRadio and the CCRadio-SW and just don't have that problem, or at least haven't been able to identify it. I understand some of the complaints, but the industry isn't concerned with those who dx. In fact, I have the problem with television signals. When I moved to the Fresno area from Sacramento, I paid $1,000 for a large tv antenna installation so that I could pick up the major stations from Sacramento, about 180 miles from me. Shortly after paying $1,000, the low-powered stations started appearing all over the dial and wiped out channels 3 and 13 from Sacramento, channel 12 from Santa Barbara, channel 8 from Salinas, etc. But that's life. TV and Radio are for the masses, NOT just the few who dx as a hobby. HDTV has solved the tv problem for me as now I get channels 3 and 13 on digital tv. HD Radio solves the problem I have with too much electrical noise on AM. No one really cares about the hobbiest. We are left out of the picture when technology changes. Here you go: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...m-details.asp?... You'll be using this long after no one in this group can remember what HD radio was.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?... Oxx Digital Wireless Internet Radio and Music Centerhttp://www.tigerdirect.com/include/AddCartfromGallery.asp?EdpNo=32382... Steve, * Requires a Computer / WiFi Network * Plus Monthly Costs for Internet Service Real Radio is FREE ! ~ RHF .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I assume that if the guy has a home office, he has a computer and internet access. |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 11, 1:43 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 11, 9:15 am, (Michael Black) wrote: IMHO - KGO is what every 50 KW "Clear-Channel" AM/MW Radio Station should be : * Regional Coverage and Programming to Match * Original Local Hosts and Programming * No Syndication Allowed Resulting in 100 Distinct Radio Voices Across the Nation And revenues off by a third since 2000. How are the revenues for colloidal silver, by the way? |
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HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 11, 12:39 pm, RHF wrote:
On Sep 11, 6:14 am, Steve wrote: On Sep 11, 1:31 am, wrote: HD Radio is the ONLY solution I can come up with in order to listen to ANY AM station in my city - even the very powerful signals - while in my home office, where I spend a good deal of time. With dimmer switches, electronic air cleaners, computer, etc. etc. the noise level wipes out all signals. I have to go to another room in the house if I want to listen to AM analog. HD Radio is a blessing for me. With so many complaining about the interference it causes on analog signals - someone please tell me which analog station(s) in the Fresno area are getting this interference. I can't locate ANY analog station with ANY interference when in a "quiet" room in my home, and there are MANY HD stations broadcasting in Fresno. I use both the CCRadio and the CCRadio-SW and just don't have that problem, or at least haven't been able to identify it. I understand some of the complaints, but the industry isn't concerned with those who dx. In fact, I have the problem with television signals. When I moved to the Fresno area from Sacramento, I paid $1,000 for a large tv antenna installation so that I could pick up the major stations from Sacramento, about 180 miles from me. Shortly after paying $1,000, the low-powered stations started appearing all over the dial and wiped out channels 3 and 13 from Sacramento, channel 12 from Santa Barbara, channel 8 from Salinas, etc. But that's life. TV and Radio are for the masses, NOT just the few who dx as a hobby. HDTV has solved the tv problem for me as now I get channels 3 and 13 on digital tv. HD Radio solves the problem I have with too much electrical noise on AM. No one really cares about the hobbiest. We are left out of the picture when technology changes. Here you go: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...m-details.asp?... You'll be using this long after no one in this group can remember what HD radio was.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?... Oxx Digital Wireless Internet Radio and Music Centerhttp://www.tigerdirect.com/include/AddCartfromGallery.asp?EdpNo=32382... Steve, * Requires a Computer / WiFi Network * Plus Monthly Costs for Internet Service Real Radio is FREE ! ~ RHF .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Not for long: "Is Pay-for-Play HD Content on Horizon?" http://rwonline.com/pages/s.0049/t.4028.html HD radios require AM-loop and externally-mounted FM-dipole antennas - HD Radio's Achille's Heel. |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 11, 12:39?pm, RHF wrote:
On Sep 11, 6:14 am, Steve wrote: On Sep 11, 1:31 am, wrote: HD Radio is the ONLY solution I can come up with in order to listen to ANY AM station in my city - even the very powerful signals - while in my home office, where I spend a good deal of time. With dimmer switches, electronic air cleaners, computer, etc. etc. the noise level wipes out all signals. I have to go to another room in the house if I want to listen to AM analog. HD Radio is a blessing for me. With so many complaining about the interference it causes on analog signals - someone please tell me which analog station(s) in the Fresno area are getting this interference. I can't locate ANY analog station with ANY interference when in a "quiet" room in my home, and there are MANY HD stations broadcasting in Fresno. I use both the CCRadio and the CCRadio-SW and just don't have that problem, or at least haven't been able to identify it. I understand some of the complaints, but the industry isn't concerned with those who dx. In fact, I have the problem with television signals. When I moved to the Fresno area from Sacramento, I paid $1,000 for a large tv antenna installation so that I could pick up the major stations from Sacramento, about 180 miles from me. Shortly after paying $1,000, the low-powered stations started appearing all over the dial and wiped out channels 3 and 13 from Sacramento, channel 12 from Santa Barbara, channel 8 from Salinas, etc. But that's life. TV and Radio are for the masses, NOT just the few who dx as a hobby. HDTV has solved the tv problem for me as now I get channels 3 and 13 on digital tv. HD Radio solves the problem I have with too much electrical noise on AM. No one really cares about the hobbiest. We are left out of the picture when technology changes. Here you go: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...m-details.asp?... You'll be using this long after no one in this group can remember what HD radio was.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?... Oxx Digital Wireless Internet Radio and Music Centerhttp://www.tigerdirect.com/include/AddCartfromGallery.asp?EdpNo=32382... Steve, * Requires a Computer / WiFi Network * Plus Monthly Costs for Internet Service Real Radio is FREE ! ~ RHF .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - HD/IBOC requires initial, expensive, and on-going hardware and licensing fees to iNiquity. |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 11, 6:31?pm, D Peter Maus wrote:
wrote: On Sep 11, 5:07 am, Steve wrote: DXers may be one thin slice of the population, but the option to DX is one that many people value, whether they (currently) DX very often or not. Again, what we value as a small group just doesn't matter to the masses. The naivete of this statement This decision wasn't made by the masses. It was made by broadcasters. Broadcasters seeking to control content local market citizens have access to--one of two Holy Grails of broadcasting since the invention of the medium. (The other is subscription radio--watch your etherspace for this development.) If this decision was actually made by the masses, it may be a different story. And it may be less caustic going down. But it wasn't. Make no mistake, this decision was made by broadcasters, seeking to limit choices. What you fail to realize, here, too, is that there is another interference problem with HD....when a station out of your market interferes with your LOCAL station. That's not a DX situation...and it's happening now, today, this minute. I'm experiencing it personally. And it's been reported in the trades from DC to LA. It's been in editorial columns in local papers. It's a real issue. And imagine the results at night. Then there is the issue of shortfalls in the HD pattern in the local market. Reports of 60% coverage and less have been coming in for a while, now. Leaving non HD reception areas subject to the same noise, interference, and unpleasant artifacts, as well as poorer audio. The facts, as they are coming in, appear that HD, especially on AM, is not living up to the promise, and will be the final nail in the coffin of MW broadcasting. Allowing the spectrum to finally be closed, auctioned off, and content moved to FM where it has a chance of commercial viability. But this is not about what the masses want. Of even care about. If it were, there would be no end of commercially available HD receivers and they would be flying off shelves by the tens of millions. The masses simply do not care. And as the months drag on, they appear to care even less. One thing I've been saying since the HD radio noise began, is that for HD to take off with the public, there would have to be an FCC mandate that HD be included in all receivers, or that a cutoff date be made for analog radio. The same way as television. September 14th, there will be something equally as effective, as AM HD begins to reach into the hours of greatest propagation. The only way to filter out the crap that's skipping into the local market, will be through a digital receiver. We should know within 30 days, if the increased trash on the bands will have a measureable effect on the public's listening, HD adoption, or both. But the only ones who appear to care about HD radio, at least as of today, are the broadcasters, and the purveyors/licensees of the hardware and firmware that make HD (more or less) happen. Big (Corporate) Brother making decisions for the mass. And look at all those defending his actions. Orwell has to be laughing his dry, wrinkly ass off. "September 14th, there will be something equally as effective, as AM HD begins to reach into the hours of greatest propagation. The only way to filter out the crap that's skipping into the local market, will be through a digital receiver. We should know within 30 days, if the increased trash on the bands will have a measureable effect on the public's listening, HD adoption, or both." No doubt, consumers will continure to shun HD Rsdio - they will have no clue, nor care about what is happening. |
HD Hypocrisy
IBOCcrock wrote:
On Sep 11, 6:31?pm, D Peter Maus wrote: wrote: On Sep 11, 5:07 am, Steve wrote: DXers may be one thin slice of the population, but the option to DX is one that many people value, whether they (currently) DX very often or not. Again, what we value as a small group just doesn't matter to the masses. The naivete of this statement This decision wasn't made by the masses. It was made by broadcasters. Broadcasters seeking to control content local market citizens have access to--one of two Holy Grails of broadcasting since the invention of the medium. (The other is subscription radio--watch your etherspace for this development.) If this decision was actually made by the masses, it may be a different story. And it may be less caustic going down. But it wasn't. Make no mistake, this decision was made by broadcasters, seeking to limit choices. What you fail to realize, here, too, is that there is another interference problem with HD....when a station out of your market interferes with your LOCAL station. That's not a DX situation...and it's happening now, today, this minute. I'm experiencing it personally. And it's been reported in the trades from DC to LA. It's been in editorial columns in local papers. It's a real issue. And imagine the results at night. Then there is the issue of shortfalls in the HD pattern in the local market. Reports of 60% coverage and less have been coming in for a while, now. Leaving non HD reception areas subject to the same noise, interference, and unpleasant artifacts, as well as poorer audio. The facts, as they are coming in, appear that HD, especially on AM, is not living up to the promise, and will be the final nail in the coffin of MW broadcasting. Allowing the spectrum to finally be closed, auctioned off, and content moved to FM where it has a chance of commercial viability. But this is not about what the masses want. Of even care about. If it were, there would be no end of commercially available HD receivers and they would be flying off shelves by the tens of millions. The masses simply do not care. And as the months drag on, they appear to care even less. One thing I've been saying since the HD radio noise began, is that for HD to take off with the public, there would have to be an FCC mandate that HD be included in all receivers, or that a cutoff date be made for analog radio. The same way as television. September 14th, there will be something equally as effective, as AM HD begins to reach into the hours of greatest propagation. The only way to filter out the crap that's skipping into the local market, will be through a digital receiver. We should know within 30 days, if the increased trash on the bands will have a measureable effect on the public's listening, HD adoption, or both. But the only ones who appear to care about HD radio, at least as of today, are the broadcasters, and the purveyors/licensees of the hardware and firmware that make HD (more or less) happen. Big (Corporate) Brother making decisions for the mass. And look at all those defending his actions. Orwell has to be laughing his dry, wrinkly ass off. "September 14th, there will be something equally as effective, as AM HD begins to reach into the hours of greatest propagation. The only way to filter out the crap that's skipping into the local market, will be through a digital receiver. We should know within 30 days, if the increased trash on the bands will have a measureable effect on the public's listening, HD adoption, or both." No doubt, consumers will continure to shun HD Rsdio - they will have no clue, nor care about what is happening. That remains to be seen, truthfully, but I"m inclined to agree with you. |
HD Hypocrisy
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message s.com... HD/IBOC requires initial, expensive, and on-going hardware and licensing fees to iNiquity. The initial fee is less than your morning personality makes... in a day or two. And the ongoing fee is relatively minor. |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 11, 9:00?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message s.com... HD/IBOC requires initial, expensive, and on-going hardware and licensing fees to iNiquity. The initial fee is less than your morning personality makes... in a day or two. And the ongoing fee is relatively minor. Not minor, since HD will never generate revenue. |
HD Hypocrisy
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 11, 9:00?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message s.com... HD/IBOC requires initial, expensive, and on-going hardware and licensing fees to iNiquity. The initial fee is less than your morning personality makes... in a day or two. And the ongoing fee is relatively minor. Not minor, since HD will never generate revenue. We have a number of stations already generating revenue. |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 11, 11:48 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ps.com... On Sep 11, 9:50?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message groups.com... On Sep 11, 9:00?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ups.com... HD/IBOC requires initial, expensive, and on-going hardware and licensing fees to iNiquity. The initial fee is less than your morning personality makes... in a day or two. And the ongoing fee is relatively minor. Not minor, since HD will never generate revenue. We have a number of stations already generating revenue.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Total bull**** - no one is listening: Yea, that is why iBiquity is looking at other aternatives for revenue: Our Tejano network is generating revenue and considerable listener response. We are just in the first months of this, and the results are encouraging. We get lots of calls from people who report that they have bought radios to listen, and our morning talent gets as many calls from the HD markets as he does from the one market where he is on a "regular" FM.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - More B.S. - HD Radio is DOA: http://hdradiofarce.blogspot.com/ |
HD Hypocrisy
David Eduardo wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message s.com... HD/IBOC requires initial, expensive, and on-going hardware and licensing fees to iNiquity. The initial fee is less than your morning personality makes... in a day or two. And the ongoing fee is relatively minor. And the shilling goes on and on and on... |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 12, 7:34 am, dxAce wrote:
David Eduardo wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ps.com... HD/IBOC requires initial, expensive, and on-going hardware and licensing fees to iNiquity. The initial fee is less than your morning personality makes... in a day or two. And the ongoing fee is relatively minor. And the shilling goes on and on and on... Yes - amazing ! I wonder, what Eduardo get out of this B.S.? This is fun in a sick way, anyway. |
HD Hypocrisy
IBOCcrock wrote: On Sep 12, 7:34 am, dxAce wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ps.com... HD/IBOC requires initial, expensive, and on-going hardware and licensing fees to iNiquity. The initial fee is less than your morning personality makes... in a day or two. And the ongoing fee is relatively minor. And the shilling goes on and on and on... Yes - amazing ! I wonder, what Eduardo get out of this B.S.? This is fun in a sick way, anyway. Isn't the firm he works for an Ibiquity investor? As with many things, one must follow the money. |
HD Hypocrisy
"dxAce" wrote in message ... IBOCcrock wrote: On Sep 12, 7:34 am, dxAce wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ps.com... HD/IBOC requires initial, expensive, and on-going hardware and licensing fees to iNiquity. The initial fee is less than your morning personality makes... in a day or two. And the ongoing fee is relatively minor. And the shilling goes on and on and on... Yes - amazing ! I wonder, what Eduardo get out of this B.S.? This is fun in a sick way, anyway. Isn't the firm he works for an Ibiquity investor? As with many things, one must follow the money. The investment was less in cost than the last new studio we built in LA... one single studio (out of 16)... so the issue is not the investment, which is minor. The issue is moving terrestrial, free, radio into the digital era. |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 12, 7:58 am, dxAce wrote:
IBOCcrock wrote: On Sep 12, 7:34 am, dxAce wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ps.com... HD/IBOC requires initial, expensive, and on-going hardware and licensing fees to iNiquity. The initial fee is less than your morning personality makes... in a day or two. And the ongoing fee is relatively minor. And the shilling goes on and on and on... Yes - amazing ! I wonder, what Eduardo get out of this B.S.? This is fun in a sick way, anyway. Isn't the firm he works for an Ibiquity investor? As with many things, one must follow the money.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Of course, Univison is an investor/supporter of this HD Radio farce, and that is why Eduardo shills 24/7 for HD radio - he knows that the radio-geeks need to be convinced first: "Worldwide Radio Wrestling!" "The number of Spanish-language households in Austin [that] have bought an HD receiver has to be close to zero." (It's worth noting that Border Media Partners doesn't have Web sites for its stations, either, so maybe it's not the best gauge of cutting-edge technology. Spanish-language giant Univision is supporting the launch.)" http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrob...d=oid%3A431131 |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 12, 9:54 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message ... IBOCcrock wrote: On Sep 12, 7:34 am, dxAce wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ps.com... HD/IBOC requires initial, expensive, and on-going hardware and licensing fees to iNiquity. The initial fee is less than your morning personality makes... in a day or two. And the ongoing fee is relatively minor. And the shilling goes on and on and on... Yes - amazing ! I wonder, what Eduardo get out of this B.S.? This is fun in a sick way, anyway. Isn't the firm he works for an Ibiquity investor? As with many things, one must follow the money. The investment was less in cost than the last new studio we built in LA... one single studio (out of 16)... so the issue is not the investment, which is minor. The issue is moving terrestrial, free, radio into the digital era.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Consumers are not buying into the "digital era" hype. |
HD Hypocrisy
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 12, 7:58 am, dxAce wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Sep 12, 7:34 am, dxAce wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ps.com... HD/IBOC requires initial, expensive, and on-going hardware and licensing fees to iNiquity. The initial fee is less than your morning personality makes... in a day or two. And the ongoing fee is relatively minor. And the shilling goes on and on and on... Yes - amazing ! I wonder, what Eduardo get out of this B.S.? This is fun in a sick way, anyway. Isn't the firm he works for an Ibiquity investor? As with many things, one must follow the money.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Of course, Univison is an investor/supporter of this HD Radio farce, and that is why Eduardo shills 24/7 for HD radio - he knows that the radio-geeks need to be convinced first: As I responded to dxAss, the investment in iBiquity was less than the cost of a single studio at our LA facilities. In the overall picture, one can consider these "broadcaster investments" as support for a single-source AM and FM solution to the qustion of how to "go digital" on terrestrial radio. "The number of Spanish-language households in Austin [that] have bought an HD receiver has to be close to zero." (It's worth noting that Border Media Partners doesn't have Web sites for its stations, either, so maybe it's not the best gauge of cutting-edge technology. Spanish-language giant Univision is supporting the launch.)" Actually, the Jonny Ramírez show on one of our HD2 channels in Austin, and originated in San Antonio, gets lots of calls form that market, and there is both advertiser and consumer interest. Since the Tejano fan has no other choice in Austin, and the music is part of a distinct lifestyle, the early response has been considerable. |
HD Hypocrisy
David Eduardo wrote:
Actually, the Jonny Ramírez show on one of our HD2 channels in Austin, and originated in San Antonio, gets lots of calls form that market, and there is both advertiser and consumer interest. Since the Tejano fan has no other choice in Austin, and the music is part of a distinct lifestyle, the early response has been considerable. Which goes back to what you and I have been discussing....content drives listening. It's the content, not the digital audio that's attracting your numbers for that channel. |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 12, 10:53 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 12, 7:58 am, dxAce wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Sep 12, 7:34 am, dxAce wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ps.com... HD/IBOC requires initial, expensive, and on-going hardware and licensing fees to iNiquity. The initial fee is less than your morning personality makes... in a day or two. And the ongoing fee is relatively minor. And the shilling goes on and on and on... Yes - amazing ! I wonder, what Eduardo get out of this B.S.? This is fun in a sick way, anyway. Isn't the firm he works for an Ibiquity investor? As with many things, one must follow the money.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Of course, Univison is an investor/supporter of this HD Radio farce, and that is why Eduardo shills 24/7 for HD radio - he knows that the radio-geeks need to be convinced first: As I responded to dxAss, the investment in iBiquity was less than the cost of a single studio at our LA facilities. In the overall picture, one can consider these "broadcaster investments" as support for a single-source AM and FM solution to the qustion of how to "go digital" on terrestrial radio. "The number of Spanish-language households in Austin [that] have bought an HD receiver has to be close to zero." (It's worth noting that Border Media Partners doesn't have Web sites for its stations, either, so maybe it's not the best gauge of cutting-edge technology. Spanish-language giant Univision is supporting the launch.)" Actually, the Jonny Ramírez show on one of our HD2 channels in Austin, and originated in San Antonio, gets lots of calls form that market, and there is both advertiser and consumer interest. Since the Tejano fan has no other choice in Austin, and the music is part of a distinct lifestyle, the early response has been considerable.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - "How to identify a Mexican" "Mexicans are stupid. Mexicans are shiftless and dirty. They come from a dirty nation called Mexico. Most Mexicans make and distribute what they call Chicle or what Americans call 'gum'. Due to the flooded Chicle market, many Mexicans try to enter the U.S. They frequently resort to crime to pay for their numerous offspring. They also make tortillas. And Tamales." "Mexicans from Northern Mexico listen to obnoxious mariachi tunes at the highest possible volume. For those ignorant of this particular genre of music, it can be identified for its use of the accordion, a falsetto sreeching "aii aii" and blaring trumpets. Southern Mexicans listen to obnoxious Mexican Polka tunes at the highest possible volumes. Regardless of what region of Mexico they are from, Mexicans tend to listen to their music at volumes that make you want to kill them." http://www.encyclopediaofstupid.com/...ex.php/Mexican Ah, so this explains the overwhelming interest in HD Radio! |
The Bigot - IBOC Crock -proclaims- "Mexicans are Stupid. Mexicans are Shiftless and Dirty."
On Sep 12, 8:10 am, IBOCcrock wrote:
On Sep 12, 10:53 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 12, 7:58 am, dxAce wrote: IBOCcrock wrote: On Sep 12, 7:34 am, dxAce wrote: David Eduardo wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ps.com... HD/IBOC requires initial, expensive, and on-going hardware and licensing fees to iNiquity. The initial fee is less than your morning personality makes... in a day or two. And the ongoing fee is relatively minor. And the shilling goes on and on and on... Yes - amazing ! I wonder, what Eduardo get out of this B.S.? This is fun in a sick way, anyway. Isn't the firm he works for an Ibiquity investor? As with many things, one must follow the money.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Of course, Univison is an investor/supporter of this HD Radio farce, and that is why Eduardo shills 24/7 for HD radio - he knows that the radio-geeks need to be convinced first: As I responded to dxAss, the investment in iBiquity was less than the cost of a single studio at our LA facilities. In the overall picture, one can consider these "broadcaster investments" as support for a single-source AM and FM solution to the qustion of how to "go digital" on terrestrial radio. "The number of Spanish-language households in Austin [that] have bought an HD receiver has to be close to zero." (It's worth noting that Border Media Partners doesn't have Web sites for its stations, either, so maybe it's not the best gauge of cutting-edge technology. Spanish-language giant Univision is supporting the launch.)" Actually, the Jonny Ramírez show on one of our HD2 channels in Austin, and originated in San Antonio, gets lots of calls form that market, and there is both advertiser and consumer interest. Since the Tejano fan has no other choice in Austin, and the music is part of a distinct lifestyle, the early response has been considerable.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - - - "How to identify a Mexican" - - "Mexicans are stupid. Mexicans are shiftless and dirty. They come from - a dirty nation called Mexico. Most Mexicans make and distribute what - they call Chicle or what Americans call 'gum'. Due to the flooded - Chicle market, many Mexicans try to enter the U.S. They frequently - resort to crime to pay for their numerous offspring. They also make - tortillas. And Tamales." - - "Mexicans from Northern Mexico listen to obnoxious mariachi tunes at - the highest possible volume. For those ignorant of this particular - genre of music, it can be identified for its use of the accordion, a - falsetto sreeching "aii aii" and blaring trumpets. Southern Mexicans - listen to obnoxious Mexican Polka tunes at the highest possible - volumes. Regardless of what region of Mexico they are from, Mexicans - tend to listen to their music at volumes that make you want to kill - them." - - http://www.encyclopediaofstupid.com/...ex.php/Mexican - - Ah, so this explains the overwhelming interest in HD Radio! The Bigot - IBOC Crock -proclaims- "Mexicans are Stupid. Mexicans are Shiftless and Dirty." BIGOT = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry IBOC Crock - Stick to your IBOC Bashing and leave your Bigoty rattling around in you brain. ~ RHF . |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 12, 11:36 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ps.com... On Sep 12, 10:53 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message "Mexicans are stupid. Mexicans are shiftless and dirty. They come from a dirty nation called Mexico. Well, as if I did not know, we have a clear indication that you are also a racist. "Mexicans from Northern Mexico listen to obnoxious mariachi tunes at the highest possible volume. Mariachi music is from west central Mexico, not the north. For those ignorant of this particular genre of music, it can be identified for its use of the accordion, a falsetto sreeching "aii aii" and blaring trumpets. Mariachi music has no accordeons in it. Southern Mexicans listen to obnoxious Mexican Polka tunes at the highest possible volumes. Norteñan music, which does have accordeons, comes from, as the name indicates, northern Mexico. Regardless of what region of Mexico they are from, Mexicans tend to listen to their music at volumes that make you want to kill them." Actually, based on radio listening, a huge segment of the audience in Mexico (more than half) listens to pop and music in English from the US. You got everything ass-backwards here. Here's an interesting graph to put all of this in perspective for you: http://www.quantcast.com/traffic-com...ain4=apple.com |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 12, 9:11 am, IBOCcrock wrote:
On Sep 12, 11:36 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 12, 10:53 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message "Mexicans are stupid. Mexicans are shiftless and dirty. They come from a dirty nation called Mexico. Well, as if I did not know, we have a clear indication that you are also a racist. "Mexicans from Northern Mexico listen to obnoxious mariachi tunes at the highest possible volume. Mariachi music is from west central Mexico, not the north. For those ignorant of this particular genre of music, it can be identified for its use of the accordion, a falsetto sreeching "aii aii" and blaring trumpets. Mariachi music has no accordeons in it. Southern Mexicans listen to obnoxious Mexican Polka tunes at the highest possible volumes. Norteñan music, which does have accordeons, comes from, as the name indicates, northern Mexico. Regardless of what region of Mexico they are from, Mexicans tend to listen to their music at volumes that make you want to kill them." Actually, based on radio listening, a huge segment of the audience in Mexico (more than half) listens to pop and music in English from the US. You got everything ass-backwards here. Here's an interesting graph to put all of this in perspective for you: http://www.quantcast.com/traffic-com....com&doma....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - IBOC Crock, DOH ! - WebSite Visits do not equate to Radio Listening. -Sort-of-Like- Apples and Carrots * One is a Fruit and the other a Vegetable * One Grows on a Tree and the other in the Ground Both Make Great Juices. All I know is : Life Exists and Radio Listening 'happens' Beyond the 10mv/m Contour ~ RHF From the Distant Land Where IBOC Fears To Go . . . . |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 12, 12:32 pm, RHF wrote:
On Sep 12, 9:11 am, IBOCcrock wrote: On Sep 12, 11:36 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 12, 10:53 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message "Mexicans are stupid. Mexicans are shiftless and dirty. They come from a dirty nation called Mexico. Well, as if I did not know, we have a clear indication that you are also a racist. "Mexicans from Northern Mexico listen to obnoxious mariachi tunes at the highest possible volume. Mariachi music is from west central Mexico, not the north. For those ignorant of this particular genre of music, it can be identified for its use of the accordion, a falsetto sreeching "aii aii" and blaring trumpets. Mariachi music has no accordeons in it. Southern Mexicans listen to obnoxious Mexican Polka tunes at the highest possible volumes. Norteñan music, which does have accordeons, comes from, as the name indicates, northern Mexico. Regardless of what region of Mexico they are from, Mexicans tend to listen to their music at volumes that make you want to kill them." Actually, based on radio listening, a huge segment of the audience in Mexico (more than half) listens to pop and music in English from the US. You got everything ass-backwards here. Here's an interesting graph to put all of this in perspective for you: http://www.quantcast.com/traffic-com...m&doma....Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - IBOC Crock, DOH ! - WebSite Visits do not equate to Radio Listening. -Sort-of-Like- Apples and Carrots * One is a Fruit and the other a Vegetable * One Grows on a Tree and the other in the Ground Both Make Great Juices. All I know is : Life Exists and Radio Listening 'happens' Beyond the 10mv/m Contour ~ RHF From the Distant Land Where IBOC Fears To Go . . . .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes they do - "clearchannelmusic.com" is for on-line streaming, "hdradio.com", "sirius.com", "att.com", and "apple.com" are the consumer go-to sites - stupid ass, iTunes and the iPhone are under apple.com ! Unbelievablably stupid ! |
HD Hypocrisy
On Sep 12, 5:11?pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 12, 11:36 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: Actually, based on radio listening, a huge segment of the audience in Mexico (more than half) listens to pop and music in English from the US. You got everything ass-backwards here. Here's an interesting graph to put all of this in perspective for you: http://www.quantcast.com/traffic-com...radio.com&doma... What does that have to do with the racist, Anti-Mexican statement you made and the totally inaccurate data on Mexican music you posted? Or is it simple obfuscation. If all your facts are equally flawed, you are in serious trouble. I never gave my personal opinions - I only quoted an encyclopedia: http://www.encyclopediaofstupid.com/...ex.php/Mexican |
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