FM HD in its current form will likely survive it's unlikely AM HD will fail.
 

On Sep 23, 7:01 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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On Sep 23, 6:34 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

The CEO of iBiquity said, "non is available, in development or being
planned." He then went on to describe the power consumption of DACs and
how
he hoped the offshoot of devices like the iPod would eventually create
more
efficient chips and that the technology could be applied to HD.

That's weird. I wonder why he'd yank your chain that way? He was
probably just joking around.

iBiquity never made claims about portables. The first mention has been in
the Samsung press releases about low cost low power chips.

iBiquity was constantly making claims about portables and about how
they would be widely available at any time.



Nothing was said in '04 about portable devices except "we hope they can
figure this one out."

This is incorrect. A great deal was said and the expectation was that
they'd be available very soon.

Then you will have no trouble producing a link or two.

Then you'd have no trouble doing your own homework, no?


Not according to Samsung. They predict that the chipsets will be very
expensive indeed.

No, they don't.

Actually, they do.

Like nearly all your recent posts, you show that you don't understand the
radio business model and are lying about the technical issues of HD.

Are you talking about the radio business or the colloidal silver
business? You switch back and forth all the time and it gets very
confusing.

FM HD in its current form will likely survive it's unlikely AM HD will fail.
 

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On Sep 22, 8:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Nobody with any actual knowledge thought there would be portables in
2006.

Not true. The availability of portables was predicted well before
2006.

Not by either iBiquity or receiver manufacturers. Those who were discussing
this possibility were speculating, and we could have had better data by
calling Miss Cleo.

Snip

You would know better than any other poster about Miss Cleo.

HD radios were originally supposed to be out more than a year ago
including portables. I see you are now into revising history.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

FM HD in its current form will likely survive it's unlikely AM HDwill fail.
 

Telamon wrote:

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On Sep 22, 8:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Nobody with any actual knowledge thought there would be portables in
2006.

Not true. The availability of portables was predicted well before
2006.

Not by either iBiquity or receiver manufacturers. Those who were discussing
this possibility were speculating, and we could have had better data by
calling Miss Cleo.

Snip

You would know better than any other poster about Miss Cleo.

HD radios were originally supposed to be out more than a year ago
including portables. I see you are now into revising history.

Why not? He's been into making stuff up for at least 50 years now. He's got
experience.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

FM HD in its current form will likely survive it's unlikely AM HD will fail.
 

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On Sep 23, 6:44 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Sep 23, 4:02 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

In correct. The new chipsets will be considerably less expensive than
the
existing ones. See press releases on iBiquity website.

Not according to Samsung. They predict that the chipsets will be very
expensive indeed.

You are making things up again.


Samsung's words, not mine. You're just playing some kind of joke on
us, right?

Every article I could find mentioned that the chips would be low in energy
consumption and in price. I found nothing referring to higher prices than
existing chipset costs.

FM HD in its current form will likely survive it's unlikely AM HD will fail.
 

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On Sep 23, 7:01 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

iBiquity never made claims about portables. The first mention has been
in
the Samsung press releases about low cost low power chips.

iBiquity was constantly making claims about portables and about how
they would be widely available at any time.

No, they never did nay shuch ting; there was no chip announced until
mid-2007 that could hope to run on battery power.


Then you will have no trouble producing a link or two.

Then you'd have no trouble doing your own homework, no?

As I though, there are no links.


Like nearly all your recent posts, you show that you don't understand the
radio business model and are lying about the technical issues of HD.

Are you talking about the radio business or the colloidal silver
business? You switch back and forth all the time and it gets very
confusing.

You are obfuscating with this dumb little joke... the fact is that neither
you nor anyone else can prove that the Samsung chips are "more" expensive
and you can not prove that iBiquity offered hope for a portable device prior
to this year.

FM HD in its current form will likely survive it's unlikely AM HD will fail.
 

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On Sep 22, 8:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Nobody with any actual knowledge thought there would be portables in
2006.

Not true. The availability of portables was predicted well before
2006.

Not by either iBiquity or receiver manufacturers. Those who were
discussing
this possibility were speculating, and we could have had better data by
calling Miss Cleo.

Snip

You would know better than any other poster about Miss Cleo.

HD radios were originally supposed to be out more than a year ago
including portables. I see you are now into revising history.

Any reliable source reported, through Spring of this year, that there was no
chip capable of the battery drain requirements of a portable. Now that
Samsung and others have announced low cost low power chips, we can now
predict portables around Q2 or Q3 of 2008.

There were HD radios out nearly 4 years ago. However, they were really
limited in production, marketed mostly to the engineering staffs of early HD
stations. The HD system was developed to first get stations on, then get
some early receivers, then get more stations on, then get FCC approval and
then get mass production. That was the only way manufacturers could have the
necessary guarantees: they wanted about half the total radio listening to be
to HD equipped stations and coverage of about 2/3 of the population of the
US... both goals have been achieved now.

FM HD in its current form will likely survive it's unlikely AM HD will fail.
 

On Sep 23, 8:41 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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On Sep 23, 6:44 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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On Sep 23, 4:02 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

In correct. The new chipsets will be considerably less expensive than
the
existing ones. See press releases on iBiquity website.

Not according to Samsung. They predict that the chipsets will be very
expensive indeed.

You are making things up again.

Samsung's words, not mine. You're just playing some kind of joke on
us, right?

Every article I could find mentioned that the chips would be low in energy
consumption and in price. I found nothing referring to higher prices than
existing chipset costs.



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You must not be looking very hard.

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On Sep 23, 8:43 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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On Sep 23, 7:01 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

iBiquity never made claims about portables. The first mention has been
in
the Samsung press releases about low cost low power chips.

iBiquity was constantly making claims about portables and about how
they would be widely available at any time.

No, they never did nay shuch ting; there was no chip announced until
mid-2007 that could hope to run on battery power.

They did say it. Repeatedly. And emphatically.




Then you will have no trouble producing a link or two.

Then you'd have no trouble doing your own homework, no?

As I though, there are no links.



Like nearly all your recent posts, you show that you don't understand the
radio business model and are lying about the technical issues of HD.

Are you talking about the radio business or the colloidal silver
business? You switch back and forth all the time and it gets very
confusing.

You are obfuscating with this dumb little joke... the fact is that neither
you nor anyone else can prove that the Samsung chips are "more" expensive
and you can not prove that iBiquity offered hope for a portable device prior
to this year.

I didn't realize that "proof" is required. Isn't Samsung's word good
enough?

FM HD in its current form will likely survive it's unlikely AM HD will fail.
 

On Sep 23, 8:43 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message

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On Sep 23, 7:01 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

iBiquity never made claims about portables. The first mention has been
in
the Samsung press releases about low cost low power chips.

iBiquity was constantly making claims about portables and about how
they would be widely available at any time.

No, they never did nay shuch ting; there was no chip announced until
mid-2007 that could hope to run on battery power.



Then you will have no trouble producing a link or two.

Then you'd have no trouble doing your own homework, no?

As I though, there are no links.

If you "thought" at all, you wouldn't be carrying on with this
foolishness.

FM HD in its current form will likely survive it's unlikely AM HD will fail.
 

On Sep 23, 8:48 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 8:52 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:

Nobody with any actual knowledge thought there would be portables in
2006.

Not true. The availability of portables was predicted well before
2006.

Not by either iBiquity or receiver manufacturers. Those who were
discussing
this possibility were speculating, and we could have had better data by
calling Miss Cleo.

Snip

You would know better than any other poster about Miss Cleo.

HD radios were originally supposed to be out more than a year ago
including portables. I see you are now into revising history.

Any reliable source reported, through Spring of this year, that there was no
chip capable of the battery drain requirements of a portable. Now that
Samsung and others have announced low cost low power chips, we can now
predict portables around Q2 or Q3 of 2008.

This is incorrect. As Samsung has made clear, the chips are not low
cost.


There were HD radios out nearly 4 years ago. However, they were really
limited in production, marketed mostly to the engineering staffs of early HD
stations. The HD system was developed to first get stations on, then get
some early receivers, then get more stations on, then get FCC approval and
then get mass production. That was the only way manufacturers could have the
necessary guarantees: they wanted about half the total radio listening to be
to HD equipped stations and coverage of about 2/3 of the population of the
US... both goals have been achieved now.- Hide quoted text -

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You need to learn to do your homework before opening your mouth.