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= = = On Sep 19, 2:36 pm, willismat
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-
- Does anyone have experience and an opinion
- (good and bad points) about any of these receivers:
-

- AOR AR-3030
http://www.dxing.com/rx/ar3030.htm
Limited Battery Operation uses Eight (8) AA-Cells

- Bearcat DX-1000
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...vr/dx1000.html
-IF- Battery Opperation is a key feature the Bearcat
does use Eight (8) D-Cells

- Magnavox D-2999
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...ble/d2999.html
* Very Collectable

- Panasonic RF-3100 - RF-4800/4900 - RF-600
http://www.dxing.com/rx/rf2800.htm
http://www.dxing.com/rx/rf4800.htm
http://www.dxing.com/rx/rfb300.htm
* Collectable - But don't waste your Money

- Realistic DX-300/302
http://www.dxing.com/rx/dx200.htm
http://www.dxing.com/rx/dx302.htm
* The Better Idea - Consider the Realistic DX-394
Receiver that has been Modified by "LowBander"
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ180160394997

- Sony ICF-6700W/6800W
http://www.dxing.com/rx/icf6500w.htm
http://www.dxing.com/rx/icf6800w.htm
* Collectable

- Yaesu Musen FRG-7
http://www.dxing.com/rx/frg7.htm
* Collectable - A Classic

-
- I'm looking for a backup radio that can handle a
- decent outdoor antenna, and take internal batteries.
- If I missed any, please add it to the list with any
- comments on it you might have, thanks!
-

WillisMat,

Why buy an older and aged 'used' Radio ?

When you could buy a 'new' / newer Radio and have newer
Technology and Features plus a Manufactures Warranty.

Here are five (5) 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radios that
will work well as Table-Top Radio/Receivers and can be
used with Batteries or an AC Adapter {Wall-Wart}

Plus all of these Radios can be used very well with a
moderate size (not to long) Shortwave Listening (SWL)
Antenna of about 35~50 Feet -aka- Low Noise* SWL
Antenna : Random Wire Antenna + Matching Transformer
+ Coax Cable feed-in-line.
* Read About - The "Low Noise" Shortwave Listening Antenna
design concepts that were popularized by John Doty
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...38b087b5e89fee
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4cd5e4a449fb60

Price {Budget} -and- Performance {Expections} :

* Price {Budget} - Within these Price ranges these
Shortwave Radio/Receivers offer good performance
and reliablility for Shortwave Radio Listening (SWL).

* Performance {Expections} - Can go from a 'basic'
Shortwave Radio/Receiver to one with a lot of Bells and
Whistles {Extra Features} that you may or may not want.

1 - Eton E1 Radio {New} ~$500
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0101.html

2 - Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Radio {Used} ~ $300
http://www.dxing.com/rx/sat800.htm
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0800.html

3 - Sony ICF-2010 Radio {Used} ~$300
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0841.html

4 - Sony ICF-SW7600GR Radio {New} ~$150
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/0360.html

5 - Redsun RP2100 Radio {New} ~$100
-aka- CCRadio-SW Radio / Kaito KA2100
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ140138823638
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...able/2100.html
http://www.ccrane.com/radios/shortwa...cradio-sw.aspx


the sw radio + the sw antenna + you the swl - iane ~ RHF {pomkia}
.
Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antennas Group = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
GoTo = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
The SWL Antenna Discussion Group = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna HELP = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna NEWS = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
Shortwave Listener (SWL) Antenna INFO = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
* * * All Are Welcome : Including ELMERS and 'Want-to-be-Elmers'
plus plain old "Mister-Know-It-Alls"; and even those Newbees with
"I Know This Is A Really Dumb Question - But _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "
.
The Shortwave Listener's Blessing :
SWL BLESSING = http://tinyurl.com/s2bjm
May You Never Tire of Listening to the Radio and Always
have Strong Signals and Noise Free Reception ~ RHF {ibid}
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortw...a/message/9233
.
Tous Sont Bienvenus ! - - - Groupe par Radio
d'auditeur d'onde courte pour des Antennes de SWL
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
.
Alle Sind Willkommen ! - - - Shortwave Radiozuhörer
Gruppe für SWL Antennen
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
.
Tutti Sono Benvenuti ! - - - Gruppo Radiofonico
dell'ascoltatore di onda corta per le Antenne di SWL
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
.
Todos São Bem-vindos ! - - - Grupo de Rádio
do ouvinte do Shortwave para Antenas de SWL
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
.
¡Todos Son Agradables! - - - Grupo de Radio del oyente
de la onda corta para las Antenas de SWL
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
.
= = = = Plain Old American-English Translation = = = =
All are Welcome - - - To Join the Shortwave Listeners
(SWL) Antenna Group on YAHOO !
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
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On Sep 20, 3:54 pm, RHF wrote:
= = = On Sep 19, 2:36 pm, willismat
= = = wrote:
-
- Does anyone have experience and an opinion
- (good and bad points) about any of these receivers:
-

- AOR AR-3030http://www.dxing.com/rx/ar3030.htm
Limited Battery Operation uses Eight (8) AA-Cells

- Bearcat DX-1000http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/commrxvr/dx1000.html
-IF- Battery Opperation is a key feature the Bearcat
does use Eight (8) D-Cells

- Magnavox D-2999http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/d2999.html
* Very Collectable

- Panasonic RF-3100 - RF-4800/4900 - RF-600http://www.dxing.com/rx/rf2800.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/rf4800.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/rfb300.htm
* Collectable - But don't waste your Money

- Realistic DX-300/302http://www.dxing.com/rx/dx200.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/dx302.htm
* The Better Idea - Consider the Realistic DX-394
Receiver that has been Modified by "LowBander"http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ180160394997

- Sony ICF-6700W/6800Whttp://www.dxing.com/rx/icf6500w.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/icf6800w.htm
* Collectable

- Yaesu Musen FRG-7http://www.dxing.com/rx/frg7.htm
* Collectable - A Classic

-
- I'm looking for a backup radio that can handle a
- decent outdoor antenna, and take internal batteries.
- If I missed any, please add it to the list with any
- comments on it you might have, thanks!
-

WillisMat,

Why buy an older and aged 'used' Radio ?

When you could buy a 'new' / newer Radio and have newer
Technology and Features plus a Manufactures Warranty.

Here are five (5) 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radios that
will work well as Table-Top Radio/Receivers and can be
used with Batteries or an AC Adapter {Wall-Wart}

Plus all of these Radios can be used very well with a
moderate size (not to long) Shortwave Listening (SWL)
Antenna

1 - Eton E1 Radio {New} ~$500http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101.html

2 - Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Radio {Used} ~ $300http://www.dxing.com/rx/sat800.htmhttp://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0800.html

3 - Sony ICF-2010 Radio {Used} ~$300http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0841.html

4 - Sony ICF-SW7600GR Radio {New} ~$150http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0360.html

5 - Redsun RP2100 Radio {New} ~$100



Thanks to all who have given me input, you have helped me quite a bit!

I had forgotten about the HF-150, despite the fact that I have an RDI
White Paper on it from several years ago that I've read a dozen times
(DUH!!!)
But as has been said here, bidding gets quite high. I need a backup
radio and can't justify the cost. That also goes for the AR3030 (I
shouldn't have even considered it, really).
Never considered the 2010, as I didn't know that it could take an
antenna better than its whip. Performance sure gets high
regard...plus it has synch.
The E1 is a good idea, that would also be a way to go, but then its
back to price for a backup.
I was thinking that I could get one of the Panasonics for a good
price, same for the DX1000, yet I know performance won't be as good as
some others.
Also, I didn't know that the Drake SW8 could take batteries. Can the
SW2?

Sounds like a Sony or a Frog (if it has the battery holder) if I find
one at a good price makes the most sense for my needs. One of the
Drakes would be great but probably would be costly.
I had a 7600GR before and didn't like the ergonomics of it, though it
was a good performer with the tennis racket. The 2010 looks much
better in this regard.



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On Sep 20, 11:09 pm, willismat wrote:
On Sep 20, 3:54 pm, RHF wrote:





= = = On Sep 19, 2:36 pm, willismat
= = = wrote:
-
- Does anyone have experience and an opinion
- (good and bad points) about any of these receivers:
-


- AOR AR-3030http://www.dxing.com/rx/ar3030.htm
Limited Battery Operation uses Eight (8) AA-Cells


- Bearcat DX-1000http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/commrxvr/dx1000.html
-IF- Battery Opperation is a key feature the Bearcat
does use Eight (8) D-Cells


- Magnavox D-2999http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/d2999.html
* Very Collectable


- Panasonic RF-3100 - RF-4800/4900 - RF-600http://www.dxing.com/rx/rf2800.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/rf4800.htmh...
* Collectable - But don't waste your Money


- Realistic DX-300/302http://www.dxing.com/rx/dx200.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/dx302.htm
* The Better Idea - Consider the Realistic DX-394
Receiver that has been Modified by "LowBander"http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ180160394997


- Sony ICF-6700W/6800Whttp://www.dxing.com/rx/icf6500w.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/icf6800w.htm
* Collectable


- Yaesu Musen FRG-7http://www.dxing.com/rx/frg7.htm
* Collectable - A Classic


-
- I'm looking for a backup radio that can handle a
- decent outdoor antenna, and take internal batteries.
- If I missed any, please add it to the list with any
- comments on it you might have, thanks!
-


WillisMat,


Why buy an older and aged 'used' Radio ?


When you could buy a 'new' / newer Radio and have newer
Technology and Features plus a Manufactures Warranty.


Here are five (5) 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radios that
will work well as Table-Top Radio/Receivers and can be
used with Batteries or an AC Adapter {Wall-Wart}


Plus all of these Radios can be used very well with a
moderate size (not to long) Shortwave Listening (SWL)
Antenna


1 - Eton E1 Radio {New} ~$500http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0101.html


2 - Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium Radio {Used} ~ $300http://www.dxing.com/rx/sat800.htmhttp://www.universal-radio.com/cata...


3 - Sony ICF-2010 Radio {Used} ~$300http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0841.html


4 - Sony ICF-SW7600GR Radio {New} ~$150http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0360.html


5 - Redsun RP2100 Radio {New} ~$100


Thanks to all who have given me input, you have helped me quite a bit!

I had forgotten about the HF-150, despite the fact that I have an RDI
White Paper on it from several years ago that I've read a dozen times
(DUH!!!)
But as has been said here, bidding gets quite high. I need a backup
radio and can't justify the cost. That also goes for the AR3030 (I
shouldn't have even considered it, really).
Never considered the 2010, as I didn't know that it could take an
antenna better than its whip. Performance sure gets high
regard...plus it has synch.
The E1 is a good idea, that would also be a way to go, but then its
back to price for a backup.
I was thinking that I could get one of the Panasonics for a good
price, same for the DX1000, yet I know performance won't be as good as
some others.
Also, I didn't know that the Drake SW8 could take batteries. Can the
SW2?

Sounds like a Sony or a Frog (if it has the battery holder) if I find
one at a good price makes the most sense for my needs. One of the
Drakes would be great but probably would be costly.
I had a 7600GR before and didn't like the ergonomics of it, though it
was a good performer with the tennis racket. The 2010 looks much
better in this regard.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Don't count out the HF-150. While I suspect the one currently on ebay
will go for an excessive amount of money, they often go for around
$400. IMO this makes it a fine value, especially considering that
you'd pay close to $400 for many new or used portables.

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On Sep 21, 6:58 am, Steve wrote:
On Sep 20, 11:09 pm, willismat wrote:





On Sep 20, 3:54 pm, RHF wrote:


= = = On Sep 19, 2:36 pm, willismat
= = = wrote:
-
- Does anyone have experience and an opinion
- (good and bad points) about any of these receivers:
-


- AOR AR-3030http://www.dxing.com/rx/ar3030.htm
Limited Battery Operation uses Eight (8) AA-Cells


- Bearcat DX-1000http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/commrxvr/dx1000.html
-IF- Battery Opperation is a key feature the Bearcat
does use Eight (8) D-Cells


- Magnavox D-2999http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/d2999.html
* Very Collectable


- Panasonic RF-3100 - RF-4800/4900 - RF-600http://www.dxing.com/rx/rf2800.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/rf4800.htmh...
* Collectable - But don't waste your Money


- Realistic DX-300/302http://www.dxing.com/rx/dx200.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/dx302.htm
* The Better Idea - Consider the Realistic DX-394
Receiver that has been Modified by "LowBander"http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ180160394997


- Sony ICF-6700W/6800Whttp://www.dxing.com/rx/icf6500w.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/icf6800w.htm
* Collectable


- Yaesu Musen FRG-7http://www.dxing.com/rx/frg7.htm
* Collectable - A Classic


- Show quoted text -


Don't count out the HF-150. While I suspect the one currently on ebay
will go for an excessive amount of money, they often go for around
$400. IMO this makes it a fine value, especially considering that
you'd pay close to $400 for many new or used portables.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You're right, I probably will have to put out more than I had
expected. Even for a backup its a good idea to have a good performer,
so in the end I guess it would be a good value.
The D2999 has been suggested a few times to be avoided (when the eBay
cost is considered). Same with the Bearcat and aparently all the
Panasonics.
I have noticed a few Sony ICF-6700Ws on eBay have sold in the $150-200
range. The 6800WA (Orange) is the one that gets attention but how is
this receiver, a decent value at $150?
Probably a good idea to save a bit more and figure on looking for a
good deal around $350 for a Sat 800, Sony 2010 or HF-150, if I can
find one at the right time.


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You might want to cross the Sat 800 off the list--it chews up D cells at an
amazing rate.

"willismat" wrote in message
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On Sep 21, 6:58 am, Steve wrote:
On Sep 20, 11:09 pm, willismat wrote:





On Sep 20, 3:54 pm, RHF wrote:


= = = On Sep 19, 2:36 pm, willismat
= = = wrote:
-
- Does anyone have experience and an opinion
- (good and bad points) about any of these receivers:
-


- AOR AR-3030http://www.dxing.com/rx/ar3030.htm
Limited Battery Operation uses Eight (8) AA-Cells


- Bearcat
DX-1000http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/commrxvr/dx1000.html
-IF- Battery Opperation is a key feature the Bearcat
does use Eight (8) D-Cells


- Magnavox
D-2999http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/d2999.html
* Very Collectable


- Panasonic RF-3100 - RF-4800/4900 -
RF-600http://www.dxing.com/rx/rf2800.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/rf4800.htmh...
* Collectable - But don't waste your Money


- Realistic
DX-300/302http://www.dxing.com/rx/dx200.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/dx302.htm
* The Better Idea - Consider the Realistic DX-394
Receiver that has been Modified by
"LowBander"http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ180160394997


- Sony
ICF-6700W/6800Whttp://www.dxing.com/rx/icf6500w.htmhttp://www.dxing.com/rx/icf6800w.htm
* Collectable


- Yaesu Musen FRG-7http://www.dxing.com/rx/frg7.htm
* Collectable - A Classic


- Show quoted text -


Don't count out the HF-150. While I suspect the one currently on ebay
will go for an excessive amount of money, they often go for around
$400. IMO this makes it a fine value, especially considering that
you'd pay close to $400 for many new or used portables.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -


You're right, I probably will have to put out more than I had
expected. Even for a backup its a good idea to have a good performer,
so in the end I guess it would be a good value.
The D2999 has been suggested a few times to be avoided (when the eBay
cost is considered). Same with the Bearcat and aparently all the
Panasonics.
I have noticed a few Sony ICF-6700Ws on eBay have sold in the $150-200
range. The 6800WA (Orange) is the one that gets attention but how is
this receiver, a decent value at $150?
Probably a good idea to save a bit more and figure on looking for a
good deal around $350 for a Sat 800, Sony 2010 or HF-150, if I can
find one at the right time.






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Don't count out the HF-150. While I suspect the one currently on ebay
will go for an excessive amount of money, they often go for around
$400. IMO this makes it a fine value, especially considering that
you'd pay close to $400 for many new or used portables.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That would be a decent price for an HF-150. And that's a sturdy
little set, too.

Hey Steve, have you ever found any need for the optional PR-150? Just
wondering about the HF-150's front end... I never really had a chance
to play with one of these for any great length of time.

Best,

Junius


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