Chinese on AM 650?
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...


I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.

Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?

Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?


If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.
2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.

Odd? That would be you, oh phoney one.

Chinese on AM 650?
 

David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as the fraudulent 'Eduardo', wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...


I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.

Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?

Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?


If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.

So?

2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.

I can associate the use of a Beverage (Yes, moron, with a capital B) antenna
with SW reception on most any given day, and so can the cognoscenti.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Chinese on AM 650?
 

--
William Smith
Indiana
IC-746, FRG-100
1500 foot longwire

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as the fraudulent 'Eduardo', wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...


I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.

Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the
IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades
or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?

Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux
one?


If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.

So?

2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.

I can associate the use of a Beverage (Yes, moron, with a capital B)
antenna
with SW reception on most any given day, and so can the cognoscenti.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



I'm planning on putting together a 750 foot maybe longer Beverage just for
the hell of it. I guess that I can't use it on SW now though, hahhahahaha.
Since I have quite a bit of written material on the Beverage and the skill
to put it in line, I wonder if that makes me qualified to know how it works.
Also, considering that in past years when time wasn't an issue, I used to
regularly receive Atlantic 252 on longwave here in the Midwestern USA state
of Indiana. Not to mention quite a few other longwave catches starting just
after dark local time. Maybe someday I will figure out how to use the
Beverage for shortwave. Mwhahahhaha.

Chinese on AM 650?
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.

So?

2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.

I can associate the use of a Beverage (Yes, moron, with a capital B)
antenna
with SW reception on most any given day, and so can the cognoscenti.

Since when is 650 a shortwave frequency?

Chinese on AM 650?
 

David Frackelton Gleason, still trying to convince folks that he is 'Eduardo',
wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.

So?

2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.

I can associate the use of a Beverage (Yes, moron, with a capital B)
antenna
with SW reception on most any given day, and so can the cognoscenti.

Since when is 650 a shortwave frequency?\

Who ever said it was?

Gawd you're a moron.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Chinese on AM 650?
 

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...

Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to put
one across the way here in a few days when I get some more material.
The idea of a Beverage is to have a multiple wavelength antenna. Multiple
wavelengths on SW frequencies are much shorter, and many longwires are, in
essence, possesing those properties already.

No that would not be correct. A Beverage is a special case antenna
different from long wire antenna.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Chinese on AM 650?
 

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as the fraudulent 'Eduardo', wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...


I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.

Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?

Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?


If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.

So?

2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.

I can associate the use of a Beverage (Yes, moron, with a capital B) antenna
with SW reception on most any given day, and so can the cognoscenti.

I would consider what you use to be a Beverage antenna for SW since I
believe your long wire antennas to be about 10 foot off the ground. You
have two, one a hundred foot and another 200 foot long.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Chinese on AM 650?
 

On Sep 24, 9:33 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...

Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to put
one across the way here in a few days when I get some more material.
The idea of a Beverage is to have a multiple wavelength antenna. Multiple
wavelengths on SW frequencies are much shorter, and many longwires are, in
essence, possesing those properties already.


- No that would not be correct.
- A Beverage is a special case antenna
- different from long wire antenna.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

Telamon - How So ? ~ RHF

The Beverage Antenna*
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna

"The Beverage Antenna is a relatively inexpensive
but very effective Long Wire Receiving Antenna
used by Amateur Radio, Shortwave Listening (SWL),
and Longwave Radio DXers and Military Applications."
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna
"A Beverage Antenna consists of a Wire one or two
Wavelengths Long (Hundreds of Feet at HF to several
Kilometres for Llongwave)."
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna
"A Resistor connected to a Ground Rod Terminates
the end of the Beverage Antenna 'pointed' to the
Target Area, a 470 Ohm Non-Inductive Resistor provides
excellent results for most Soils {Locations}."
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna
"A 50 or 75 Ohm Coaxial Cable Transmission Line
connects the Receiver to the opposite-end of the
Beverage Antenna through an Impedance-Matching
Transformer."
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna

READ more "Technical Description"
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverag...al_Description
- Harold Beverage discovered . . .

Three Characteristics of a Beverage Antenna :
* One or More Wavelengths Long
* Near the Ground Surface {within Several Feet}
* Terminated

Three Characteristics of a Longwire Antenna :
* One or More Wavelengths Long
* High Above the Ground Surface {1/4 WL or More}
* Not Terminated
ERGO a Non-Terminated Beverage Antenna
that is Rigged relatively High-Off the Ground

Read - Antenna Height Considerations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna...considerations

Longwave - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave

Medium Wave - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediumwave
Medium Frequency - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_frequency

Shortwave - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortwave
-aka- "HF" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_frequency

byob ~ RHF

Chinese on AM 650?
 

"RHF" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Sep 24, 9:33 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...

Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to
put
one across the way here in a few days when I get some more material.
The idea of a Beverage is to have a multiple wavelength antenna.
Multiple
wavelengths on SW frequencies are much shorter, and many longwires are,
in
essence, possesing those properties already.


- No that would not be correct.
- A Beverage is a special case antenna
- different from long wire antenna.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

A Beverage is a specific kind of long wire, generally wavelength or
multiples, which can operate well low off the ground (MW Beverages are often
on sticks in the ground) and is grounded at one end and end, not center,
fed. Like other antennas, they can be used in multiples to create
directional patters and "moving" directionality by means of a phasor.

Chinese on AM 650?
 

On Sep 25, 10:34 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

oups.com...



On Sep 24, 9:33 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...

Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to
put
one across the way here in a few days when I get some more material.
The idea of a Beverage is to have a multiple wavelength antenna.
Multiple
wavelengths on SW frequencies are much shorter, and many longwires are,
in
essence, possesing those properties already.

- No that would not be correct.
- A Beverage is a special case antenna
- different from long wire antenna.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

A Beverage is a specific kind of long wire, generally wavelength or
multiples, which can operate well low off the ground (MW Beverages are often
on sticks in the ground) and is grounded at one end and end, not center,
fed. Like other antennas, they can be used in multiples to create
directional patters and "moving" directionality by means of a phasor.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Very good. Anything else you'd like to paraphrase?

Chinese on AM 650?
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"RHF" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Sep 24, 9:33 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...

Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to
put
one across the way here in a few days when I get some more material.
The idea of a Beverage is to have a multiple wavelength antenna.
Multiple
wavelengths on SW frequencies are much shorter, and many longwires are,
in
essence, possesing those properties already.


- No that would not be correct.
- A Beverage is a special case antenna
- different from long wire antenna.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

A Beverage is a specific kind of long wire, generally wavelength or
multiples, which can operate well low off the ground (MW Beverages are often
on sticks in the ground) and is grounded at one end and end, not center,
fed. Like other antennas, they can be used in multiples to create
directional patters and "moving" directionality by means of a phasor.

It doesn't have to be grounded at one end, though it can be, to reduce reception
off the back end of the wire. In that case the ground should be at the end
reception is desired from.

The longer the wire (in wavelengths) the greater the gain and the greater the
directionality with respect to the direction(s) the wire is running.

Chinese on AM 650?
 

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

"RHF" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Sep 24, 9:33 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...

Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might
have to put one across the way here in a few days when I get
some more material.
The idea of a Beverage is to have a multiple wavelength
antenna. Multiple wavelengths on SW frequencies are much
shorter, and many longwires are, in essence, possesing those
properties already.


- No that would not be correct. - A Beverage is a special case
antenna - different from long wire antenna. - - -- - Telamon -
Ventura, California

A Beverage is a specific kind of long wire, generally wavelength or
multiples, which can operate well low off the ground (MW Beverages
are often on sticks in the ground) and is grounded at one end and
end, not center, fed. Like other antennas, they can be used in
multiples to create directional patters and "moving" directionality
by means of a phasor.

It doesn't have to be grounded at one end, though it can be, to
reduce reception off the back end of the wire. In that case the
ground should be at the end reception is desired from.

The longer the wire (in wavelengths) the greater the gain and the
greater the directionality with respect to the direction(s) the wire
is running.

Good response DxAce.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Chinese on AM 650?
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

The longer the wire (in wavelengths) the greater the gain and the
greater the directionality with respect to the direction(s) the wire
is running.

Good response DxAce.

In all likelihood, dxAss has never put up a true MW Beverage, or gone on an
AM DXpedition where one builds one or more of an afternoon, hopes the local
vertebrates don't knock it down or eat it, and then rolls it up in the
morning after 10 or 12 hours of non stop DX.

Chinese on AM 650?
 

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

The longer the wire (in wavelengths) the greater the gain and the
greater the directionality with respect to the direction(s) the wire
is running.

Good response DxAce.

In all likelihood, dxAss has never put up a true MW Beverage, or gone on an
AM DXpedition where one builds one or more of an afternoon, hopes the local
vertebrates don't knock it down or eat it, and then rolls it up in the
morning after 10 or 12 hours of non stop DX.

This I don't know but I can say he understands Beverage concepts better
than you for example.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Chinese on AM 650?
 

On Sep 24, 10:08 am, "Billy Smith"
wrote:
--
William Smith
Indiana
IC-746, FRG-100
1500 foot longwire

"dxAce" wrote in message

...







David Frackelton Gleason, still posing as the fraudulent 'Eduardo', wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...

I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.

Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the
IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades
or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?

Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux
one?

If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.

So?

2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.

I can associate the use of a Beverage (Yes, moron, with a capital B)
antenna
with SW reception on most any given day, and so can the cognoscenti.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

I'm planning on putting together a 750 foot maybe longer Beverage just for
the hell of it. I guess that I can't use it on SW now though, hahhahahaha.
Since I have quite a bit of written material on the Beverage and the skill
to put it in line, I wonder if that makes me qualified to know how it works.
Also, considering that in past years when time wasn't an issue, I used to
regularly receive Atlantic 252 on longwave here in the Midwestern USA state
of Indiana. Not to mention quite a few other longwave catches starting just
after dark local time. Maybe someday I will figure out how to use the
Beverage for shortwave. Mwhahahhaha.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hell I planning to lay me out an Array of Beverages
pointing out form the center at every 60 Degrees.

well that is . . . as soon as i find me a bottle opener ~ RHF
- - - a six pack of cold beverages and a radio - ahaaaaaaaa

Chinese on AM 650?
 

"Steve" wrote in message
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On Sep 25, 11:04 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Billy Smith" wrote in message

...

Also, considering that in past years when time wasn't an issue, I used
to
regularly receive Atlantic 252 on longwave here in the Midwestern USA
state of Indiana. Not to mention quite a few other longwave catches
starting just after dark local time.

That is not even an interesting catch.

Neither are your posts.

I wonder if Retardo ever has done anything with MW DX or Longwave reception.
Or is he just spouting his trap again about the virtues of IBOC. By the way,
Eduardo/Frackelton or whatever your name may be, exactly when have you done
anyting regarding LW DX or even MW DX. I'm not talking about listening to a
few clear channel stations regularly available in the US.

I'm talking about putting a Drake R8 in line and then a 1000-2000 foot
Beverage. I had an R8 for many years and regularly heard stations on SW from
very small stations all over the world. Not to mention many of the major LW
stations from Europe and North Africa. Been there and done that many times
for years prior when I had more time to devote to the hobby.

Now when you can pull out the 150 khz and up area with what you have done,
you can come tell me Eduardo. I might even give you dog biscuit.

Chinese on AM 650?
 

On Sep 25, 7:34 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

oups.com...



On Sep 24, 9:33 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...

Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to
put
one across the way here in a few days when I get some more material.
The idea of a Beverage is to have a multiple wavelength antenna.
Multiple
wavelengths on SW frequencies are much shorter, and many longwires are,
in
essence, possesing those properties already.

- No that would not be correct.
- A Beverage is a special case antenna
- different from long wire antenna.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

A Beverage is a specific kind of long wire, generally wavelength or
multiples, which can operate well low off the ground (MW Beverages are often
on sticks in the ground) and is grounded at one end and end, not center,
fed. Like other antennas, they can be used in multiples to create
directional patters and "moving" directionality by means of a phasor.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


DOH ! -Reprint in English- The Beverage Antenna*
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna

"The Beverage Antenna is a relatively inexpensive
but very effective Long Wire Receiving Antenna
used by Amateur Radio, Shortwave Listening (SWL),
and Longwave Radio DXers and Military Applications."
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna
"A Beverage Antenna consists of a Wire one or two
Wavelengths Long (Hundreds of Feet at HF to several
Kilometres for Llongwave)."
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna
"A Resistor connected to a Ground Rod Terminates
the end of the Beverage Antenna 'pointed' to the
Target Area, a 470 Ohm Non-Inductive Resistor provides
excellent results for most Soils {Locations}."
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna
"A 50 or 75 Ohm Coaxial Cable Transmission Line
connects the Receiver to the opposite-end of the
Beverage Antenna through an Impedance-Matching
Transformer."
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna

READ more "Technical Description"
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverag...al_Description
- Harold Beverage discovered . . .

Three Characteristics of a Beverage Antenna :
* One or More Wavelengths Long
* Near the Ground Surface {within Several Feet}
* Terminated

Three Characteristics of a Longwire Antenna :
* One or More Wavelengths Long
* High Above the Ground Surface {1/4 WL or More}
* Not Terminated
ERGO a Non-Terminated Beverage Antenna
that is Rigged relatively High-Off the Ground

Read - Antenna Height Considerations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna...considerations

Longwave - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave

Medium Wave - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediumwave
Medium Frequency - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_frequency

Shortwave - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortwave
-aka- "HF" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_frequency

no translation required ~ RHF

Chinese on AM 650?
 

On Sep 25, 8:04 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Billy Smith" wrote in message

...

Also, considering that in past years when time wasn't an issue, I used to
regularly receive Atlantic 252 on longwave here in the Midwestern USA
state of Indiana. Not to mention quite a few other longwave catches
starting just after dark local time.

- That is not even an interesting catch.

Many of the LW stations could be used
as indicators of conditions favoring low band MW European DXing when more of
the LW stations existed. When the LW stations were exceptionally strong, you
could look for things like Lisbon on 655 that would indicate a good
trans-Atlantic path.

d'Eduado - Clearly Your Interests . . .

Are Not Our Interests. ~ RHF

- - - and that is something to think about.

Chinese on AM 650?
 

"RHF" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 25, 8:04 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Billy Smith" wrote in message

...

Also, considering that in past years when time wasn't an issue, I used
to
regularly receive Atlantic 252 on longwave here in the Midwestern USA
state of Indiana. Not to mention quite a few other longwave catches
starting just after dark local time.

- That is not even an interesting catch.

Many of the LW stations could be used
as indicators of conditions favoring low band MW European DXing when more
of
the LW stations existed. When the LW stations were exceptionally strong,
you
could look for things like Lisbon on 655 that would indicate a good
trans-Atlantic path.

d'Eduado - Clearly Your Interests . . .

Are Not Our Interests. ~ RHF

- - - and that is something to think about.

Yep, just now sent a post lamenting how DXers used to be radio fans. Now
they are declared enemies of the broadcasters and are, in a considerable
percentage, radio haters. You should see some of the reception reports AMs
get these days. The ones that are not lies often have demands for a "QSL" as
if most radio broadcasters knew what a QSL or QRM or SINPO even mean.

.

Chinese on AM 650?
 

David Eduardo wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

The longer the wire (in wavelengths) the greater the gain and the
greater the directionality with respect to the direction(s) the wire
is running.

Good response DxAce.

In all likelihood, dxAss has never put up a true MW Beverage, or gone on an
AM DXpedition where one builds one or more of an afternoon, hopes the local
vertebrates don't knock it down or eat it, and then rolls it up in the
morning after 10 or 12 hours of non stop DX.

While I don't necessarily do AM DX, I certainly have done the rest.

Edweenie, it really has to hurt you, being so full of ****!

Chinese on AM 650?
 

--
William Smith
Indiana
IC-746, FRG-100
1500 foot longwire

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. ..

"RHF" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 25, 8:04 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Billy Smith" wrote in message

...

Also, considering that in past years when time wasn't an issue, I used
to
regularly receive Atlantic 252 on longwave here in the Midwestern USA
state of Indiana. Not to mention quite a few other longwave catches
starting just after dark local time.

- That is not even an interesting catch.

Many of the LW stations could be used
as indicators of conditions favoring low band MW European DXing when
more of
the LW stations existed. When the LW stations were exceptionally strong,
you
could look for things like Lisbon on 655 that would indicate a good
trans-Atlantic path.

d'Eduado - Clearly Your Interests . . .

Are Not Our Interests. ~ RHF

- - - and that is something to think about.

Yep, just now sent a post lamenting how DXers used to be radio fans. Now
they are declared enemies of the broadcasters and are, in a considerable
percentage, radio haters. You should see some of the reception reports AMs
get these days. The ones that are not lies often have demands for a "QSL"
as if most radio broadcasters knew what a QSL or QRM or SINPO even mean.

.




I guess that does say that most broadcasters are ignorant of what
traditional radio was all about since QSLs were a pretty solid part of the
hobby since the earliest years before the corporate boards deemed the
consumer largely irrelevant. As they do today. Seeing the general lack of
education in US society, one must wonder if even the station staff or
engineers would even know much about any of the traditions of radio.

Chinese on AM 650?
 

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...


I guess that does say that most broadcasters are ignorant of what
traditional radio was all about since QSLs were a pretty solid part of the
hobby since the earliest years before the corporate boards deemed the
consumer largely irrelevant.

No, "verifications of reception" were common. Few AM and FM radio folks know
what a QSL card is. AM DXers collect "veries" and not QSLs.

As they do today. Seeing the general lack of education in US society, one
must wonder if even the station staff or engineers would even know much
about any of the traditions of radio.

In most cases, they are irrelevant to today's broadcast environment where
the competiton is new media, no an out of town skywave delivered signal

Chinese on AM 650?
 

On Sep 26, 1:51 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
The ones that are not lies often have demands for a "QSL" as
if most radio broadcasters knew what a QSL or QRM or SINPO even mean.

Any radio engineer worth his salt should know AT MINIMUM what a QSL
card is.

Hell, I'm not a ham radio operator and I know what they are.

Stephanie Weil
New York City, USA

Chinese on AM 650?
 

On Sep 26, 1:51 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"RHF" wrote in message

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On Sep 25, 8:04 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Billy Smith" wrote in message

...

Also, considering that in past years when time wasn't an issue, I used
to
regularly receive Atlantic 252 on longwave here in the Midwestern USA
state of Indiana. Not to mention quite a few other longwave catches
starting just after dark local time.

- That is not even an interesting catch.

Many of the LW stations could be used
as indicators of conditions favoring low band MW European DXing when more
of
the LW stations existed. When the LW stations were exceptionally strong,
you
could look for things like Lisbon on 655 that would indicate a good
trans-Atlantic path.

d'Eduado - Clearly Your Interests . . .

Are Not Our Interests. ~ RHF

- - - and that is something to think about.

Yep, just now sent a post lamenting how DXers used to be radio fans. Now
they are declared enemies of the broadcasters and are, in a considerable
percentage, radio haters. You should see some of the reception reports AMs
get these days. The ones that are not lies often have demands for a "QSL" as
if most radio broadcasters knew what a QSL or QRM or SINPO even mean.

And the fact that they're not "radio fans" is clearly very upsetting
to you, despite your occasional claims about how insignificant the DX
community is. It's clearly significant enough to keep your panties in
a twist.

Chinese on AM 650?
 

On Sep 26, 10:15 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Billy Smith" wrote in message

...



I guess that does say that most broadcasters are ignorant of what
traditional radio was all about since QSLs were a pretty solid part of the
hobby since the earliest years before the corporate boards deemed the
consumer largely irrelevant.

No, "verifications of reception" were common. Few AM and FM radio folks know
what a QSL card is. AM DXers collect "veries" and not QSLs.

As they do today. Seeing the general lack of education in US society, one
must wonder if even the station staff or engineers would even know much
about any of the traditions of radio.

In most cases, they are irrelevant to today's broadcast environment where
the competiton is new media, no an out of town skywave delivered signal



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Apparently they're relevant enough to put a bee in your bonnet.

Chinese on AM 650?
 

"Stephanie Weil" wrote in message
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On Sep 26, 1:51 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
The ones that are not lies often have demands for a "QSL" as
if most radio broadcasters knew what a QSL or QRM or SINPO even mean.

Any radio engineer worth his salt should know AT MINIMUM what a QSL
card is.

Unless an engineer is a ham, and fewer and fewer are today, the knowledge of
Q codes is limited. In the MW DX ranks, the terms are not used that often.
But that assumes that a station engineer is going to get a reception report.

With most smaller market stations using contract outside engineering
services, requests for verification of reception often go to managers, PDs,
the receptionist, etc. It's highly unlikely that any among those ranks would
know what a QSL is. And the contract engineers are paid a fee or by the
hour; they don't, unless DXers themselves, answer reception reports.

In fact, if you look at the NRC "report form" going back decades, the "QSL"
term is not used; the form requests a "verification that I received your
station at my location."

Many of the Scandinavian DXers get this. Reports received by KTNQ from that
part of the world use totally non-DX terms to explain their hobby as one of
taking the challenge of catching stations at great distances and collecting
proofs of such receptions.

Chinese on AM 650?
 

Stephanie Weil wrote:
On Sep 26, 1:51 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
The ones that are not lies often have demands for a "QSL" as
if most radio broadcasters knew what a QSL or QRM or SINPO even mean.

Any radio engineer worth his salt should know AT MINIMUM what a QSL
card is.

Hell, I'm not a ham radio operator and I know what they are.

Stephanie Weil
New York City, USA



I've worked with two, now, one going back 30 years, who didn't know
what a QSL card was.