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Chinese on AM 650?
I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to
WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC BOBO |
Chinese on AM 650?
"Bebo" wrote in message ... I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC It would help enormously to know where you are located. |
Chinese on AM 650?
Kentucky
Sorry bout that! "David Eduardo" wrote in message ... "Bebo" wrote in message ... I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC It would help enormously to know where you are located. |
Chinese on AM 650?
On Sep 22, 5:53 pm, "Bebo" wrote:
I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC BOBO BoBo - What is your location : City/Metro Area/State ? What ways {Front & Back} is your Dipole {Broadside} pointing ? ~ RHF |
Chinese on AM 650?
Antenna is on a Northeast Southwest axis....Now the Chinese station has
taken over WSM / Grand Ole Opry...It's booming in here in Nicholasville Ky! Bebo "RHF" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 22, 5:53 pm, "Bebo" wrote: I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC BOBO BoBo - What is your location : City/Metro Area/State ? What ways {Front & Back} is your Dipole {Broadside} pointing ? ~ RHF . |
Chinese on AM 650?
"Bebo" wrote in message ... Kentucky Sorry bout that! "David Eduardo" wrote in message ... "Bebo" wrote in message ... I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC I don't believe mainland China has been heard in that region since the early 50's, and that on a totally clear channel. The possibilities for 650 would be some local station running programming for a Chinese community in North America. There is a station near Richmond, VA, with major power, but daytime. A low power station in MA, and then a 250 watter in Houston are the North American stations... so nothing licensed to 650 seems likely. Any chance you have some receiver issues? |
Chinese on AM 650?
Dont think so David, Switched over to several other rigs and same
results....WSM came back in strong and is already fading back to chinese...strange stuff! "David Eduardo" wrote in message ... "Bebo" wrote in message ... Kentucky Sorry bout that! "David Eduardo" wrote in message ... "Bebo" wrote in message ... I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC I don't believe mainland China has been heard in that region since the early 50's, and that on a totally clear channel. The possibilities for 650 would be some local station running programming for a Chinese community in North America. There is a station near Richmond, VA, with major power, but daytime. A low power station in MA, and then a 250 watter in Houston are the North American stations... so nothing licensed to 650 seems likely. Any chance you have some receiver issues? |
Chinese on AM 650?
Time is now 02:25 and WSM is back and booming...chinese station is in
background fluttering "Bebo" wrote in message ... Antenna is on a Northeast Southwest axis....Now the Chinese station has taken over WSM / Grand Ole Opry...It's booming in here in Nicholasville Ky! Bebo "RHF" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 22, 5:53 pm, "Bebo" wrote: I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC BOBO BoBo - What is your location : City/Metro Area/State ? What ways {Front & Back} is your Dipole {Broadside} pointing ? ~ RHF . |
Chinese on AM 650?
On Sep 22, 6:14 pm, "Bebo" wrote:
Antenna is on a Northeast Southwest axis....Now the Chinese station has taken over WSM / Grand Ole Opry...It's booming in here in Nicholasville Ky! Bebo"RHF" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 22, 5:53 pm, "Bebo" wrote: I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC BOBO BoBo - What is your location : City/Metro Area/State ? What ways {Front & Back} is your Dipole {Broadside} pointing ? ~ RHF .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Antenna is on a Northeast Southwest axis ? Tip-to-Tip ? SW*-----------oo--------------*NE Front-to-Back ? ............NE ------------oo------------- ............SW How did you know it was "Mandarin" Chinese ? ~ RHF |
Chinese on AM 650?
David Eduardo wrote: "Bebo" wrote in message ... Kentucky Sorry bout that! "David Eduardo" wrote in message ... "Bebo" wrote in message ... I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC I don't believe mainland China has been heard in that region since the early 50's, and that on a totally clear channel. The possibilities for 650 would be some local station running programming for a Chinese community in North America. There is a station near Richmond, VA, with major power, but daytime. A low power station in MA, and then a 250 watter in Houston are the North American stations... so nothing licensed to 650 seems likely. Any chance you have some receiver issues? Issues? You mean like you have? Like being a pathological liar, and a faux Hispanic to boot? Quite the combination. |
Chinese on AM 650?
Bebo wrote: I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC If you're talking today.. it's only 0135 as I write this, and, China is in daylight. dxAce Michigan USA |
Chinese on AM 650?
dxAce wrote: Bebo wrote: I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC If you're talking today.. it's only 0135 as I write this, and, China is in daylight. Also, no Chinese heard here on 650 with a 200' wire on an R8, nor on the SR II. dxAce Michigan USA |
Chinese on AM 650?
Bebo wrote: Time is now 02:25 and WSM is back and booming... Set your clock... dxAce Michigan USA |
Chinese on AM 650?
On Sep 22, 9:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Bebo" wrote in message ... Kentucky Sorry bout that! "David Eduardo" wrote in message ... "Bebo" wrote in message . .. I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC I don't believe mainland China has been heard in that region since the early 50's, and that on a totally clear channel. The possibilities for 650 would be some local station running programming for a Chinese community in North America. There is a station near Richmond, VA, with major power, but daytime. A low power station in MA, and then a 250 watter in Houston are the North American stations... so nothing licensed to 650 seems likely. Any chance you have some receiver issues? No, but there's an excellent chance that you have some psychiatric issues. |
Chinese on AM 650?
David Eduardo wrote: "Bebo" wrote in message ... Kentucky Sorry bout that! "David Eduardo" wrote in message ... "Bebo" wrote in message ... I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC I don't believe mainland China has been heard in that region since the early 50's, and that on a totally clear channel. The possibilities for 650 would be some local station running programming for a Chinese community in North America. There is a station near Richmond, VA, with major power, but daytime. What's the call? I don't see it listed on in the AMLOGBOOK. |
Chinese on AM 650?
On Sep 22, 6:31 pm, RHF wrote:
On Sep 22, 6:14 pm, "Bebo" wrote: Antenna is on a Northeast Southwest axis....Now the Chinese station has taken over WSM / Grand Ole Opry...It's booming in here in Nicholasville Ky! Bebo"RHF" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 22, 5:53 pm, "Bebo" wrote: I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC BOBO BoBo - What is your location : City/Metro Area/State ? What ways {Front & Back} is your Dipole {Broadside} pointing ? ~ RHF .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Antenna is on a Northeast Southwest axis ? Tip-to-Tip ? SW*-----------oo--------------*NE Front-to-Back ? ...........NE ------------oo------------- ...........SW How did you know it was "Mandarin" Chinese ? ~ RHF .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - On-the-Radio.Net = http://www.ontheradio.net/ Radio-Locator.Com = http://www.radio-locator.com FCC AM QUERY = http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/amq.html |
Chinese on AM 650?
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "Bebo" wrote in message ... Kentucky Sorry bout that! "David Eduardo" wrote in message ... "Bebo" wrote in message ... I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC I don't believe mainland China has been heard in that region since the early 50's, and that on a totally clear channel. The possibilities for 650 would be some local station running programming for a Chinese community in North America. There is a station near Richmond, VA, with major power, but daytime. What's the call? I don't see it listed on in the AMLOGBOOK. WHAN, 50 kw days, Lunenberg, VA. Your data must be out of date... mine was updated this morning. Interesting. I see a Construction Permit for them on the FCC site for 650 kHz, was on (or still is) 1430 kHz. Shows Change of Community of License from ASHLAND, VA to VICTORIA, VA. |
Chinese on AM 650?
"RHF" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 22, 6:31 pm, RHF wrote: On Sep 22, 6:14 pm, "Bebo" wrote: Antenna is on a Northeast Southwest axis....Now the Chinese station has taken over WSM / Grand Ole Opry...It's booming in here in Nicholasville Ky! Bebo"RHF" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 22, 5:53 pm, "Bebo" wrote: I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC BOBO BoBo - What is your location : City/Metro Area/State ? What ways {Front & Back} is your Dipole {Broadside} pointing ? ~ RHF .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Antenna is on a Northeast Southwest axis ? Tip-to-Tip ? SW*-----------oo--------------*NE Front-to-Back ? ...........NE ------------oo------------- ...........SW How did you know it was "Mandarin" Chinese ? ~ RHF .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - On-the-Radio.Net = http://www.ontheradio.net/ Radio-Locator.Com = http://www.radio-locator.com FCC AM QUERY = http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/amq.html Strange conditions last night on 75 meters as well as 40 meters. Seems like some sort of propagation event. I didn't get home until rather late and as soon as I turned on the radio I saw a lot of signals normally S9 plus 20 showing up at S6 etc. Didn't matter which of the 6 antennas I tried either. So its possible you received some Chinese skywave propagation. Rare but possible. |
Chinese on AM 650?
"Bebo" wrote in message ... I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC BOBO Possibly a Chinese station because some really strange conditions were on last night both on 75 meters but also 40 meter ham bands. Considering that we are getting longer nights in the Northern Hemisphere it is very possible. At 9 PM eastern here it would be around 8 am to 10 am local China time. Which would give the possibility of night path propagation. Especially considering that it might be coming over the North Pole into your station. It could always be a US based station or Canadian. Since you've tried several radios with similar results. It sounds not to be a receiver issue with images or something like that. 75 meters within a few hundred miles totally dropped out last night around 400 UTC and 40 meters was totally non existant. However, 160 meters was quite good and this morning quite a bit of long distance DX work between US and Australian stations is occuring. So perhaps the ionosphere is favoring long distance DX. Its about time as things have been dead here in the Midwest. |
Chinese on AM 650?
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:48:40 -0700, David Eduardo wrote:
Shhhh. Don't say it out loud or they may get ideas. WSM is now just about at the bottom billing-wise in Nashville (one of the gospel daytimers outbills it by double) so something that made them real money might just happen. WSM is the lowest billing of all the old 1-A clears and nearly the lowest of all the 98 stations in the US that have 50 kw at night. 'course, it could be they don't care... as long as people keep coming to the Opry and the Opryland Hotel and buying stuff off their websites... Back in the earliest days of radio, the bottom line didn't involve selling advertising. It was about promoting your own business. You sold life insurance? You built WSM or WLAC or WTIC & used your airtime to promote your policies. You sold flour? Build WCCO and promote Gold Medal. You ran a hotel and spa at Hot Springs, Arkansas? Build KTHS (now KAAY) and urge tourists to town. Your goals are a bit lower? Use WSIX to sell tires and tire repairs. I've read (though am not 100% certain this is accurate) that the first sale of airtime to a third party wasn't until 1927, seven years after commercial broadcasting began. Until then, "commercial" radio meant selling your own stuff, not somebody else's. Sounds to me like Radio Disney bills essentially zero. But Disney is keeping them around. Seems like they feel they're getting their money's worth in promotion for Disney properties. (it does seem a bit unlikely that WSM could pull enough business for Gaylord to support the station -- but the Opryland Hotel *does* do pretty well...) |
Chinese on AM 650?
"Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:48:40 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Shhhh. Don't say it out loud or they may get ideas. WSM is now just about at the bottom billing-wise in Nashville (one of the gospel daytimers outbills it by double) so something that made them real money might just happen. WSM is the lowest billing of all the old 1-A clears and nearly the lowest of all the 98 stations in the US that have 50 kw at night. 'course, it could be they don't care... as long as people keep coming to the Opry and the Opryland Hotel and buying stuff off their websites... That is all they care about. The WSM website is pretty much a gareway to the Opryland hype pages. I have not been to the hotel or the Opry for about 15 years or so, but it is truly a fun experience and a living piece of Americana. Yet the radio station, today, is extraneous. Back in the earliest days of radio, the bottom line didn't involve selling advertising. It was about promoting your own business. You sold life insurance? You built WSM or WLAC or WTIC & used your airtime to promote your policies. You sold flour? Build WCCO and promote Gold Medal. You ran a hotel and spa at Hot Springs, Arkansas? Build KTHS (now KAAY) and urge tourists to town. Your goals are a bit lower? Use WSIX to sell tires and tire repairs. I've read (though am not 100% certain this is accurate) that the first sale of airtime to a third party wasn't until 1927, seven years after commercial broadcasting began. Until then, "commercial" radio meant selling your own stuff, not somebody else's. The modern equivalent is selling the name of every stadium, park and public rest room to some company. Sounds to me like Radio Disney bills essentially zero. But Disney is keeping them around. Seems like they feel they're getting their money's worth in promotion for Disney properties. Disney stations cover expenses... a few bill several million on local sales, and they do get national sales. The PPM allows them to show 6-12 numbers., too. But the main purpose of RD is to do brand enhancement. (it does seem a bit unlikely that WSM could pull enough business for Gaylord to support the station -- but the Opryland Hotel *does* do pretty well...) There is no documented night listening in the ratings in any US market. WSM only shows in two markets outside Nashville, both contiguous to the home market and both in the groundwave contour. |
Chinese on AM 650?
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:29:28 -0700, RHF
wrote: On Sep 22, 5:53 pm, "Bebo" wrote: I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC BOBO BoBo, Next time that this occurs : 1 - Select your Narrorest AM/SSB IF Filter on your Radios : 2 - Tune down from 650 kHz to 648 kHz =IF= the Signal improves and the Listening is easier then 'most likely' you have a "Non" North American Chinese Language Medium Wave Radio Broadcaster. + Plus -if- you have USB & LSB - Try LSB on 648 kHz to get rid of much of WSM on 650 kHz. =IF= the Signal weakens and the Listening is more difficult then 'most likely' you have a North American Chinese Language AM/MW Radio Broadcaster. hope this helps ~ RHF Probably not. First, why if the poster is "hearing" something in Chinese does it have to be from China? Second, let's establish exactly where the poster is located? Third, what "standard" of receiver/antenna is the poster using? Fourth, even if the poster has a reasonably sophisticated receiver/antenna system, other factors could be at play (i.e. receiver-generated garbage). Fifth, more details are needed to even speculate on the source. Sixth, even if in wildest dreams, the poster (supposedly in North America) was in a receiving location that could log "direct from China" 648, then WSB/650 would conversely be a virtual impossibility at the same time. Seventh, we need more information. Oh, sorry, I repeat myself. Yeah, I know... a wet blanket... unnecessary tags snipped |
Chinese on AM 650?
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:12:19 GMT, Nobody wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:29:28 -0700, RHF wrote: On Sep 22, 5:53 pm, "Bebo" wrote: I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC BOBO BoBo, Next time that this occurs : 1 - Select your Narrorest AM/SSB IF Filter on your Radios : 2 - Tune down from 650 kHz to 648 kHz =IF= the Signal improves and the Listening is easier then 'most likely' you have a "Non" North American Chinese Language Medium Wave Radio Broadcaster. + Plus -if- you have USB & LSB - Try LSB on 648 kHz to get rid of much of WSM on 650 kHz. =IF= the Signal weakens and the Listening is more difficult then 'most likely' you have a North American Chinese Language AM/MW Radio Broadcaster. hope this helps ~ RHF Probably not. First, why if the poster is "hearing" something in Chinese does it have to be from China? Second, let's establish exactly where the poster is located? Third, what "standard" of receiver/antenna is the poster using? Fourth, even if the poster has a reasonably sophisticated receiver/antenna system, other factors could be at play (i.e. receiver-generated garbage). Fifth, more details are needed to even speculate on the source. Sixth, even if in wildest dreams, the poster (supposedly in North America) was in a receiving location that could log "direct from China" 648, then WSB/650 would conversely be a virtual impossibility at the same time. Seventh, we need more information. Oh, sorry, I repeat myself. Yeah, I know... a wet blanket... unnecessary tags snipped Uh-oh, typing fingers don't work well on Sundays, their usual day off: "WSM/650". |
Chinese on AM 650?
"Billy Smith" wrote in message ... "Bebo" wrote in message ... I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC BOBO Possibly a Chinese station because some really strange conditions were on last night both on 75 meters but also 40 meter ham bands. Considering that we are getting longer nights in the Northern Hemisphere it is very possible. At 9 PM eastern here it would be around 8 am to 10 am local China time. Which would give the possibility of night path propagation. Especially considering that it might be coming over the North Pole into your station. It could always be a US based station or Canadian. Since you've tried several radios with similar results. It sounds not to be a receiver issue with images or something like that. 75 meters within a few hundred miles totally dropped out last night around 400 UTC and 40 meters was totally non existant. However, 160 meters was quite good and this morning quite a bit of long distance DX work between US and Australian stations is occuring. So perhaps the ionosphere is favoring long distance DX. Its about time as things have been dead here in the Midwest. Here is something interesting that I found regarding the Chinese radio situation. Any possibility it could be one of the mega transmitters for hundreds of kilowatts. I found a posting on asiawaves.net about a station used by Voice of Russia/Voice of America. This transmitter is in the Far East of Russia near Vladivostok which is far north and far east in Russia. 648 kHz 1000 kW RUSSIA Ussuriysk Voice of Russia / Voice of America (VOA) Languages: Chinese, Korean Directional antenna, azimuth 230 degrees Aug 2007 |
Chinese on AM 650?
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "Bebo" wrote in message ... Dont think so David, Switched over to several other rigs and same results....WSM came back in strong and is already fading back to chinese...strange stuff! If you have selectable sideband or at least SSB, you can check one thing. If from China (either mainland or Taiwan), the station would actually be on 648 KHz, rather than 650. If it is right on 650, then it's in the Americas for sure. Here's a list of stations on 648 in China... none look like they would make it there.. 648 kHz CHINA Changchun, Jilin Province Changchun PBS, Children's & Elderly Life Station Sep 2007 648 kHz CHINA Chaoyang, Liaoning Province Chaoyang PBS (Economic Broadcasting Station) Listed 648 kHz 50 kW CHINA Transmitting Station 522, Liantang, Huadu District, Guangzhou [Canton], Guangdong Province Guangdong PBS (Guangdong Satellite Broadcasting Station) Aug 2007 648 kHz 1 kW CHINA Wangxiang Cun, Ancheng, Huainan, Anhui Province Huainan PBS Aug 2007 648 kHz CHINA Daqiao Zhen, Tanqiao District, Jinan, Shandong Province China National Radio, Voice of China (CNR-1 / Zhongyang Renmin Guangbo Diantai, Zhongguo zhi Sheng) Transmitter location: 36° 47' 29"N, 117° 00' 56"E Listed 648 kHz CHINA Kashgar [Kashi], Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region Kashi PBS (Chinese Language Programme) Listed 648 kHz 7.5 kW CHINA Shanghai Transmitting Station 3, Yangpu, Shanghai Shanghai PBS (Traffic Channel) //FM 105.7 MHz. Sep 2007 648 kHz CHINA Wuhu, Anhui Province Anhui PBS (Life Service) Also listed on 603 kHz. Listed 648 kHz 1000 kW RUSSIA Ussuriysk Voice of Russia / Voice of America (VOA) Languages: Chinese, Korean Directional antenna, azimuth 230 degrees Aug 2007 Rare DX catch but if the signal is coming over the dark parts of the earth, it could be possible. Not to mention the ionospheric conditions were horrid for any sort of HF activity especially 80 meters and above. Even during the day, my 1500 foot longwire couldn't pick up much in the way of quality signals on the HF bands. I will say that Jordan, Pakistan, India and other stations came in quite well today. |
Chinese on AM 650?
"Billy Smith" wrote in message ... Here is something interesting that I found regarding the Chinese radio situation. Any possibility it could be one of the mega transmitters for hundreds of kilowatts. I found a posting on asiawaves.net about a station used by Voice of Russia/Voice of America. This transmitter is in the Far East of Russia near Vladivostok which is far north and far east in Russia. 648 kHz 1000 kW RUSSIA Ussuriysk Voice of Russia / Voice of America (VOA) Languages: Chinese, Korean Directional antenna, azimuth 230 degrees Aug 2007 Vladivostok is NE of my location, and I regularly hear a station on 810 near there (when the Korean jammer is shut down). Never heard anything on 648 out of there, though.. their beam is pretty much due west, directly into China, but can likely be heard in N. Korea as well. Not much chance of being heard in the US, except MAYBE on the west coast using a directional EWE or Beverage. |
Chinese on AM 650?
So since you don't have receiver issues. It's either a US/Canada based
transmitter with Chinese programming or some extremely strange propagation conditions is causing a severe fade where WSM is out of the picture. That combined with a hundred of kilowatt transmitter may very well register China for you. Did you get any place names or recording. That would be a great catch though. Very near impossible under normal conditions but with the radio comditions lately you never know. "Bebo" wrote in message ... Dont think so David, Switched over to several other rigs and same results....WSM came back in strong and is already fading back to chinese...strange stuff! "David Eduardo" wrote in message ... "Bebo" wrote in message ... Kentucky Sorry bout that! "David Eduardo" wrote in message ... "Bebo" wrote in message ... I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC I don't believe mainland China has been heard in that region since the early 50's, and that on a totally clear channel. The possibilities for 650 would be some local station running programming for a Chinese community in North America. There is a station near Richmond, VA, with major power, but daytime. A low power station in MA, and then a 250 watter in Houston are the North American stations... so nothing licensed to 650 seems likely. Any chance you have some receiver issues? |
Chinese on AM 650?
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "Billy Smith" wrote in message ... Here is something interesting that I found regarding the Chinese radio situation. Any possibility it could be one of the mega transmitters for hundreds of kilowatts. I found a posting on asiawaves.net about a station used by Voice of Russia/Voice of America. This transmitter is in the Far East of Russia near Vladivostok which is far north and far east in Russia. 648 kHz 1000 kW RUSSIA Ussuriysk Voice of Russia / Voice of America (VOA) Languages: Chinese, Korean Directional antenna, azimuth 230 degrees Aug 2007 Vladivostok is NE of my location, and I regularly hear a station on 810 near there (when the Korean jammer is shut down). Never heard anything on 648 out of there, though.. their beam is pretty much due west, directly into China, but can likely be heard in N. Korea as well. Not much chance of being heard in the US, except MAYBE on the west coast using a directional EWE or Beverage. I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to receive the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa, Kunming, and other locations at this QTH. Of course, I have been working with a 1500-2000 foot long wire for quite a few years as well. I'm currently planning to work with a full fledged Beverage Antenna to hook up and see what I can find for MW Dx. That above posting regarding the Vladivostok station is actually in Ussuriysk about 100 miles south of Vladivostok. I find it strange as well but I did notice that propagation was very strange. Seems that last evening there was a severe fading problem even on 75 meters as I could not pick up many stations within 500 miles. It is like the bands went very long and I also noticed that 160 meters was open to Australia and Indonesia earlier on Sunday morning local US time. |
Chinese on AM 650?
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:50:51 -0700, David Eduardo wrote:
'course, it could be they don't care... as long as people keep coming to the Opry and the Opryland Hotel and buying stuff off their websites... That is all they care about. The WSM website is pretty much a gareway to the Opryland hype pages. I have not been to the hotel or the Opry for about 15 years or so, but it is truly a fun experience and a living piece of Americana. Yet the radio station, today, is extraneous. Oh, and probably the Ryman and the Wildhorse. 15 years is probably how long it's been since I've been to the Opry as well. Visits to the hotel are a lot more frequent. Anyone who comes to Nashville really should see it. There is no documented night listening in the ratings in any US market. WSM only shows in two markets outside Nashville, both contiguous to the home market and both in the groundwave contour. But again, if the idea of WSM is to draw visitors to Gaylord's tourist properties in Nashville it may not be that important. Most of those visitors bring their cars (as one learns to one's possible chagrin when trying to drive up that stretch of Briley Parkway!) and one might presume some portion is listening to WSM as they travel from site to site within the city. |
Chinese on AM 650?
On Sep 23, 6:12 pm, Nobody wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:29:28 -0700, RHF wrote: On Sep 22, 5:53 pm, "Bebo" wrote: I hooked my 80 meter dipole to my Sherwood receiver and was listening to WSM....Grand Ole Opry outta Nashville on 650 when a Mandarin Chinese station started coming in and out....Time here is 01:52 UTC BOBO BoBo, Next time that this occurs : 1 - Select your Narrorest AM/SSB IF Filter on your Radios : 2 - Tune down from 650 kHz to 648 kHz =IF= the Signal improves and the Listening is easier then 'most likely' you have a "Non" North American Chinese Language Medium Wave Radio Broadcaster. + Plus -if- you have USB & LSB - Try LSB on 648 kHz to get rid of much of WSM on 650 kHz. =IF= the Signal weakens and the Listening is more difficult then 'most likely' you have a North American Chinese Language AM/MW Radio Broadcaster. hope this helps ~ RHF Probably not. First, why if the poster is "hearing" something in Chinese does it have to be from China? Second, let's establish exactly where the poster is located? Third, what "standard" of receiver/antenna is the poster using? Fourth, even if the poster has a reasonably sophisticated receiver/antenna system, other factors could be at play (i.e. receiver-generated garbage). Fifth, more details are needed to even speculate on the source. Sixth, even if in wildest dreams, the poster (supposedly in North America) was in a receiving location that could log "direct from China" 648, then WSB/650 would conversely be a virtual impossibility at the same time. Seventh, we need more information. Oh, sorry, I repeat myself. - Yeah, I know... a wet blanket... A Good Thing To Have - When You Are On Fire ~ RHF unnecessary tags snipped- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
Chinese on AM 650?
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... What's the call? I don't see it listed on in the AMLOGBOOK. WHAN, 50 kw days, Lunenberg, VA. Your data must be out of date... mine was updated this morning. Interesting. I see a Construction Permit for them on the FCC site for 650 kHz, was on (or still is) 1430 kHz. Shows Change of Community of License from ASHLAND, VA to VICTORIA, VA. I show it as a CP, also. Yeah, after I pointed that little fact out to you. However, your original response indicated that it was already on the air according to your 'updated data'. Here is what the GM of WHAN has to say, hot off the press in response to a query about the Construction Permit: "We are still on 1430. It will take some time to complete the move as we have to confirm the site and then build two towers. But we're moving albeit slowly. Thanks for asking." Bill ================= dxAce Michigan USA |
Chinese on AM 650?
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... What's the call? I don't see it listed on in the AMLOGBOOK. WHAN, 50 kw days, Lunenberg, VA. Your data must be out of date... mine was updated this morning. Interesting. I see a Construction Permit for them on the FCC site for 650 kHz, was on (or still is) 1430 kHz. Shows Change of Community of License from ASHLAND, VA to VICTORIA, VA. I show it as a CP, also. Yeah, after I pointed that little fact out to you. However, your original response indicated that it was already on the air according to your 'updated data'. It very well may be on the air, or testing. A CP can be operating some time without a difinitive license. I believe one of the extreme cases was WISN in Milwaukee which ran with a CP for the better part of two decades for its night facility. Here is what the GM of WHAN has to say, hot off the press in response to a query about the Construction Permit: "We are still on 1430. It will take some time to complete the move as we have to confirm the site and then build two towers. But we're moving albeit slowly. Thanks for asking." OK, all that does is eliminate that station as a possibility. It is a valid CP, and could have been on. For the first time in a long time, you have contributed something useful to helping solve an un-id. |
Chinese on AM 650?
"Billy Smith" wrote in message ... I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to receive the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa, Kunming, and other locations at this QTH. Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or so. Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early 60's, I never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies. When did this occur and what stations were heard? |
Chinese on AM 650?
David Eduardo wrote: "Billy Smith" wrote in message ... I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to receive the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa, Kunming, and other locations at this QTH. Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or so. Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early 60's, I never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies. When did this occur and what stations were heard? Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one? dxAce Michigan USA |
Chinese on AM 650?
David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... What's the call? I don't see it listed on in the AMLOGBOOK. WHAN, 50 kw days, Lunenberg, VA. Your data must be out of date... mine was updated this morning. Interesting. I see a Construction Permit for them on the FCC site for 650 kHz, was on (or still is) 1430 kHz. Shows Change of Community of License from ASHLAND, VA to VICTORIA, VA. I show it as a CP, also. Yeah, after I pointed that little fact out to you. However, your original response indicated that it was already on the air according to your 'updated data'. It very well may be on the air, or testing. Sorry, it's not... pay attention. A CP can be operating some time without a difinitive license. I believe one of the extreme cases was WISN in Milwaukee which ran with a CP for the better part of two decades for its night facility. Here is what the GM of WHAN has to say, hot off the press in response to a query about the Construction Permit: "We are still on 1430. It will take some time to complete the move as we have to confirm the site and then build two towers. But we're moving albeit slowly. Thanks for asking." OK, all that does is eliminate that station as a possibility. It is a valid CP, and could have been on. No, it couldn't have been on... pay attention. For the first time in a long time, you have contributed something useful to helping solve an un-id. Beats your efforts, oh faux one. LMFAO at the fraud, yet again. dxAce Michigan USA |
Chinese on AM 650?
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "Billy Smith" wrote in message ... I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to receive the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa, Kunming, and other locations at this QTH. Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or so. Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early 60's, I never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies. When did this occur and what stations were heard? Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one? dxAce Michigan USA I was referring to the SW transmission in regard to the stations in Llasa, Kunming, etc. I did notice however that John Plimmer from South Africa does an excellent job with his DX operating from South Africa. Quite amazing what he picks up although he does live in the 9 khz channel seperation area versus our 10 Khz area here in the states. However, I do note that he had quite a nunber of catches of US stations even on the Western edge of South Africa. Plus the fact they have much less in the way of co channel interference and IBOC crap going on. |
Chinese on AM 650?
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "Billy Smith" wrote in message ... I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to receive the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa, Kunming, and other locations at this QTH. Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or so. Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early 60's, I never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies. When did this occur and what stations were heard? Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one? If so, that would be odd for two reasons... 1. The thread is about MW. 2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW receptions. |
Chinese on AM 650?
-- William Smith Indiana IC-746, FRG-100 1500 foot longwire "David Eduardo" wrote in message . net... "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "Billy Smith" wrote in message ... I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to receive the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa, Kunming, and other locations at this QTH. Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or so. Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early 60's, I never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies. When did this occur and what stations were heard? Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one? If so, that would be odd for two reasons... 1. The thread is about MW. 2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW receptions. Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to put one across the way here in a few days when I get some more material. |
Chinese on AM 650?
"Billy Smith" wrote in message ... "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: "Billy Smith" wrote in message ... I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to receive the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa, Kunming, and other locations at this QTH. Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or so. Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early 60's, I never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies. When did this occur and what stations were heard? Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one? dxAce Michigan USA I was referring to the SW transmission in regard to the stations in Llasa, Kunming, etc. And this has exactly what to do with a reception on the low end of the MW band? I did notice however that John Plimmer from South Africa does an excellent job with his DX operating from South Africa. Quite amazing what he picks up although he does live in the 9 khz channel seperation area versus our 10 Khz area here in the states. However, I do note that he had quite a nunber of catches of US stations even on the Western edge of South Africa. Plus the fact they have much less in the way of co channel interference and IBOC crap going on. The fact is that South Africa has pretty much eliminated the MW band with just a couple of exceptions. SABC has all of 3 AMs left, there are a half dozen community AMs and 3 commercial AMs listed in WRTVH 2007. Otherwise the band is virtually empty for about 1000 km, with 10 AMs in Botswana and a few in other closer nations, most at a near perfect 90 degree angle to the Americas. |
Chinese on AM 650?
"Billy Smith" wrote in message ... Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to put one across the way here in a few days when I get some more material. The idea of a Beverage is to have a multiple wavelength antenna. Multiple wavelengths on SW frequencies are much shorter, and many longwires are, in essence, possesing those properties already. |
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