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dxAce September 24th 07 12:46 PM

Chinese on AM 650?
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

What's the call? I don't see it listed on in the AMLOGBOOK.

WHAN, 50 kw days, Lunenberg, VA. Your data must be out of date... mine
was
updated this morning.


Interesting. I see a Construction Permit for them on the FCC site for 650
kHz,
was on (or still is) 1430 kHz. Shows Change of Community of License from
ASHLAND, VA to VICTORIA, VA.


I show it as a CP, also.


Yeah, after I pointed that little fact out to you. However, your original
response indicated that it was already on the air according to your 'updated
data'.

Here is what the GM of WHAN has to say, hot off the press in response to a query
about the Construction Permit:

"We are still on 1430. It will take some time to complete the move as we have to
confirm the site and then build two towers. But we're moving albeit slowly.
Thanks for asking."

Bill
=================

dxAce
Michigan
USA





David Eduardo[_4_] September 24th 07 01:48 PM

Chinese on AM 650?
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

What's the call? I don't see it listed on in the AMLOGBOOK.

WHAN, 50 kw days, Lunenberg, VA. Your data must be out of date... mine
was
updated this morning.

Interesting. I see a Construction Permit for them on the FCC site for
650
kHz,
was on (or still is) 1430 kHz. Shows Change of Community of License
from
ASHLAND, VA to VICTORIA, VA.


I show it as a CP, also.


Yeah, after I pointed that little fact out to you. However, your original
response indicated that it was already on the air according to your
'updated
data'.


It very well may be on the air, or testing. A CP can be operating some time
without a difinitive license. I believe one of the extreme cases was WISN in
Milwaukee which ran with a CP for the better part of two decades for its
night facility.

Here is what the GM of WHAN has to say, hot off the press in response to a
query
about the Construction Permit:

"We are still on 1430. It will take some time to complete the move as we
have to
confirm the site and then build two towers. But we're moving albeit
slowly.
Thanks for asking."


OK, all that does is eliminate that station as a possibility. It is a valid
CP, and could have been on. For the first time in a long time, you have
contributed something useful to helping solve an un-id.



David Eduardo[_4_] September 24th 07 01:53 PM

Chinese on AM 650?
 

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...


I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa, Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.


Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early 60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?



dxAce September 24th 07 01:59 PM

Chinese on AM 650?
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...


I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa, Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.


Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early 60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?


Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?

dxAce
Michigan
USA



dxAce September 24th 07 01:59 PM

Chinese on AM 650?
 


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

What's the call? I don't see it listed on in the AMLOGBOOK.

WHAN, 50 kw days, Lunenberg, VA. Your data must be out of date... mine
was
updated this morning.

Interesting. I see a Construction Permit for them on the FCC site for
650
kHz,
was on (or still is) 1430 kHz. Shows Change of Community of License
from
ASHLAND, VA to VICTORIA, VA.


I show it as a CP, also.


Yeah, after I pointed that little fact out to you. However, your original
response indicated that it was already on the air according to your
'updated
data'.


It very well may be on the air, or testing.


Sorry, it's not... pay attention.

A CP can be operating some time
without a difinitive license. I believe one of the extreme cases was WISN in
Milwaukee which ran with a CP for the better part of two decades for its
night facility.

Here is what the GM of WHAN has to say, hot off the press in response to a
query
about the Construction Permit:

"We are still on 1430. It will take some time to complete the move as we
have to
confirm the site and then build two towers. But we're moving albeit
slowly.
Thanks for asking."


OK, all that does is eliminate that station as a possibility. It is a valid
CP, and could have been on.


No, it couldn't have been on... pay attention.

For the first time in a long time, you have
contributed something useful to helping solve an un-id.


Beats your efforts, oh faux one.

LMFAO at the fraud, yet again.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Billy Smith September 24th 07 03:07 PM

Chinese on AM 650?
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...


I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.


Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?


Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


I was referring to the SW transmission in regard to the stations in Llasa,
Kunming, etc.
I did notice however that John Plimmer from South Africa does an excellent
job with his DX operating from South Africa.
Quite amazing what he picks up although he does live in the 9 khz channel
seperation area versus our 10 Khz area here in the states.
However, I do note that he had quite a nunber of catches of US stations even
on the Western edge of South Africa.
Plus the fact they have much less in the way of co channel interference and
IBOC crap going on.



David Eduardo[_4_] September 24th 07 03:25 PM

Chinese on AM 650?
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...


I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.


Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?


Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?


If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.
2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.



Billy Smith September 24th 07 03:45 PM

Chinese on AM 650?
 


--
William Smith
Indiana
IC-746, FRG-100
1500 foot longwire

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
. net...

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...


I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.

Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the
IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?


Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?


If so, that would be odd for two reasons...

1. The thread is about MW.
2. He is using a beverage antenna, not usually associated with SW
receptions.


Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to put one
across the way here in a few days when I get some more material.



David Eduardo[_4_] September 24th 07 03:49 PM

Chinese on AM 650?
 

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...


I know that from here in Indiana it was very common in the past to
receive
the Chinese People's Broadcasting Stations from as far as Lhasa,
Kunming,
and other locations at this QTH.

Funny, but I never saw such MW receptions reported in DX News or the
IRCA
Monitor... that would be most amazing reception in the last 3 decades or
so.
Even in the peak years of good reception to the Pacific in the early
60's, I
never heard of a Chinese station making it East of the Rockies.

When did this occur and what stations were heard?


Do ya think he might just be referring to SW transmissions, oh faux one?

dxAce
Michigan
USA


I was referring to the SW transmission in regard to the stations in Llasa,
Kunming, etc.


And this has exactly what to do with a reception on the low end of the MW
band?

I did notice however that John Plimmer from South Africa does an excellent
job with his DX operating from South Africa.
Quite amazing what he picks up although he does live in the 9 khz channel
seperation area versus our 10 Khz area here in the states.
However, I do note that he had quite a nunber of catches of US stations
even on the Western edge of South Africa.
Plus the fact they have much less in the way of co channel interference
and IBOC crap going on.


The fact is that South Africa has pretty much eliminated the MW band with
just a couple of exceptions. SABC has all of 3 AMs left, there are a half
dozen community AMs and 3 commercial AMs listed in WRTVH 2007. Otherwise the
band is virtually empty for about 1000 km, with 10 AMs in Botswana and a few
in other closer nations, most at a near perfect 90 degree angle to the
Americas.



David Eduardo[_4_] September 24th 07 03:56 PM

Chinese on AM 650?
 

"Billy Smith" wrote in message
...

Well you can use a Beverage antenna for SW as well. I might have to put
one across the way here in a few days when I get some more material.

The idea of a Beverage is to have a multiple wavelength antenna. Multiple
wavelengths on SW frequencies are much shorter, and many longwires are, in
essence, possesing those properties already.




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