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Radio Sold Its Soul
Radio Sold Its Soul
"Wall Street has soured on radio. How many investment banks still actually have a full-time analyst watching this segment? Look to the falling price of properties. To the few radio deals that get gone these days. To the pessimism on Wall Street that has put the damper on the future of radio." http://insidemusicmedia.blogspot.com...-its-soul.html Ha! Ha! Eduardo! |
Radio Sold Its Soul
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ups.com... Radio Sold Its Soul "Wall Street has soured on radio. How many investment banks still actually have a full-time analyst watching this segment? Look to the falling price of properties. To the few radio deals that get gone these days. To the pessimism on Wall Street that has put the damper on the future of radio." There is more money looking for stations than there are stations for sale. That usually means an increased price. Clear Channel felt the market was undervaluing its assets and cash flow, so they are going private. Univision did the same early this year, for over $12 billion. Station prices for decent facilities have shown no erosion, as proven by the Clear Channel and CBS spin-offs. |
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On Sep 24, 8:50 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ups.com... Radio Sold Its Soul "Wall Street has soured on radio. How many investment banks still actually have a full-time analyst watching this segment? Look to the falling price of properties. To the few radio deals that get gone these days. To the pessimism on Wall Street that has put the damper on the future of radio." There is more money looking for stations than there are stations for sale. That usually means an increased price. Clear Channel felt the market was undervaluing its assets and cash flow, so they are going private. Univision did the same early this year, for over $12 billion. Station prices for decent facilities have shown no erosion, as proven by the Clear Channel and CBS spin-offs. Yes, and when the market is "undervaluing" your assets and cash flow, that's always a good sign....lol |
Radio Sold Its Soul
"Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 8:50 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ups.com... Radio Sold Its Soul "Wall Street has soured on radio. How many investment banks still actually have a full-time analyst watching this segment? Look to the falling price of properties. To the few radio deals that get gone these days. To the pessimism on Wall Street that has put the damper on the future of radio." There is more money looking for stations than there are stations for sale. That usually means an increased price. Clear Channel felt the market was undervaluing its assets and cash flow, so they are going private. Univision did the same early this year, for over $12 billion. Station prices for decent facilities have shown no erosion, as proven by the Clear Channel and CBS spin-offs. Yes, and when the market is "undervaluing" your assets and cash flow, that's always a good sign....lol With the emergence of new technologies not called HD radio, it would appear that traditional AM and FM broadcast stations are going to have a hard time maintaining solid listerner bases. When you consider that you can connect any computer to practically all kinds of Internet stations that is one avenue. Another is satellite radio systems such as Sirius or XM. Another is the fact that so many listeners now download music from I Tunes, Napster or other online services. That is another hit to the bottom line. So instead of attracting listeners by finding ways to atrract them through the traditional media, they would rather find a way to digitize the media Ie. HD radio at which very few people are interested except for a few shills. I live somewhat near a major metro and I can assure you that I rarely hear anyone at my vocation talk about HD radio. They are talking about the Ipod, Zune, or something else. You don't hear all kinds of talk about this radio station or that station. Since the telecommunications mergers the local radio spectrum has pretty much become a joke in that it is now filled with pretty much the same garbage up and down the band. I had a good laugh last night when the Chicago Bears-Dallas Cowboys football game was being talked about at the same time on no less than 4 local Chicago stations on the AM band. Just an observation from listening. While I live further downstate, it is noticeable that our local stations are now pretty much Clear Channel stations with very little local programming and a great deal of verbatim and silly talk. Very little substance. You have the occasional small time shock jock at night talking dirty to the kids about whatever social norm they are trying to bring about. Just good for a laugh anyway. As far as musical diversity or anything else, you will hear the same bland playlists of similar songs or the same song going over two stations at once in the same market. Not really any way to gain listeners. For the most part, I've stopped listening to local FM because its the same old morning talk show host talking about some of the most brain dead things. Rather than enlighten anyone, it is more on the maintainance of the lowest common denominator. At leat here, if you want to find out information, news, weather or talk radio you still do have the AM band and local stations that broadcast the news or features. FM has been pretty much raided by two or three media conglomerates so you will pretty much be listening to your Ipod with annoying commercials. It's a shame that we don't have local ownership and local tastes to our radio culture. Instead they would rather give us the big media crap that is presented as news, entertainment, music etc. I've noticed that Chicago, IL and Memphis TN have a wide variety of still local flavors. In fact, some of the better stations heard come out of Memphis TN since much of their local stations are locally owned and operated and the decisions are not made in a corporate boardroom in NYC, LA or wherever. But instead, they would rather trash a perfectly good communications medium in AM/FM radio with inexpensive and often cheap radios (cheap not implied as junk) and instead would give us more of the same garbage but charge 200 to 400 dollars for a radio. |
Radio Sold Its Soul
"Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 8:50 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ups.com... Radio Sold Its Soul "Wall Street has soured on radio. How many investment banks still actually have a full-time analyst watching this segment? Look to the falling price of properties. To the few radio deals that get gone these days. To the pessimism on Wall Street that has put the damper on the future of radio." There is more money looking for stations than there are stations for sale. That usually means an increased price. Clear Channel felt the market was undervaluing its assets and cash flow, so they are going private. Univision did the same early this year, for over $12 billion. Station prices for decent facilities have shown no erosion, as proven by the Clear Channel and CBS spin-offs. Yes, and when the market is "undervaluing" your assets and cash flow, that's always a good sign....lol This is what has been called the "Viacom Syndrome" where an entire industry was punished on the Street for the problems of one company in the sector. Viacom recognized it two years ago and split into two parts; others have gone private as the value is there, based on revenues and cash flow or profits, but the market is undervaluing the issues... a perfect time for private equity to get something for less than it is worth. |
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On Sep 24, 8:50 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ups.com... Radio Sold Its Soul "Wall Street has soured on radio. How many investment banks still actually have a full-time analyst watching this segment? Look to the falling price of properties. To the few radio deals that get gone these days. To the pessimism on Wall Street that has put the damper on the future of radio." There is more money looking for stations than there are stations for sale. That usually means an increased price. Clear Channel felt the market was undervaluing its assets and cash flow, so they are going private. Univision did the same early this year, for over $12 billion. Station prices for decent facilities have shown no erosion, as proven by the Clear Channel and CBS spin-offs. Going private is a retreat strategy - Wall Street has smelled out HD Radio. CC has gone from a high of $90 to a low of $30/share. Broadcast radio is dying and HD wil l ust accelerate its death. |
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"Billy Smith" wrote in message ... I've noticed that Chicago, IL and Memphis TN have a wide variety of still local flavors. In fact, some of the better stations heard come out of Memphis TN since much of their local stations are locally owned and operated and the decisions are not made in a corporate boardroom in NYC, LA or wherever. In Memphis, of the 23 stations with a one share of audience or more (23 stations) two are non-commercial FMs and 3 are locally owned by Flinn Broadcasting which has 26 stations in the region. The rest are owned by Clear Channel, Citadel and Entercom, including the top 6 and 8 of the top 10. So much for your theory about Memphis. In Chicago, 31 stations have a one share or over. Of them, of the top 18, only one is locally owned, Tribune's WGN (but it is a multi-market and multi-station owner). #19 is a non-com, and 20 to 25 are not locally owned. #26 is locally owned and classical, and the remainder of the 31 are not locally owned except for Moody's religious WMBI (FM). There goes your theory. |
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On Sep 24, 10:27 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 8:50 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message roups.com... Radio Sold Its Soul "Wall Street has soured on radio. How many investment banks still actually have a full-time analyst watching this segment? Look to the falling price of properties. To the few radio deals that get gone these days. To the pessimism on Wall Street that has put the damper on the future of radio." There is more money looking for stations than there are stations for sale. That usually means an increased price. Clear Channel felt the market was undervaluing its assets and cash flow, so they are going private. Univision did the same early this year, for over $12 billion. Station prices for decent facilities have shown no erosion, as proven by the Clear Channel and CBS spin-offs. Yes, and when the market is "undervaluing" your assets and cash flow, that's always a good sign....lol This is what has been called the "Viacom Syndrome" where an entire industry was punished on the Street for the problems of one company in the sector. Viacom recognized it two years ago and split into two parts; others have gone private as the value is there, based on revenues and cash flow or profits, but the market is undervaluing the issues... a perfect time for private equity to get something for less than it is worth.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yup, the Street is punishing broadcast radio for the HD Radio farce. |
Radio Sold Its Soul
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 8:50 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ups.com... Radio Sold Its Soul "Wall Street has soured on radio. How many investment banks still actually have a full-time analyst watching this segment? Look to the falling price of properties. To the few radio deals that get gone these days. To the pessimism on Wall Street that has put the damper on the future of radio." There is more money looking for stations than there are stations for sale. That usually means an increased price. Clear Channel felt the market was undervaluing its assets and cash flow, so they are going private. Univision did the same early this year, for over $12 billion. Station prices for decent facilities have shown no erosion, as proven by the Clear Channel and CBS spin-offs. Going private is a retreat strategy - Wall Street has smelled out HD Radio. CC has gone from a high of $90 to a low of $30/share. Broadcast radio is dying and HD wil l ust accelerate its death. HD has nothing to do with radio stock prices... the investment per station is a tiny drop in corporate capex budgets (we spent about 10 times more in LA for one morning show studio than putting HD on 5 signals). Many stocks were very high in 1999 (when CCU peaked in the 80's) and have never recovered after the dot com crash... it has to do with the markets, not the companies. Going private is a future strategy: buy now, when the market undervalues, and in 3 to 6 years, go public again based on value and profits. |
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"IBOCcrock" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 24, 10:27 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 8:50 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message roups.com... Radio Sold Its Soul "Wall Street has soured on radio. How many investment banks still actually have a full-time analyst watching this segment? Look to the falling price of properties. To the few radio deals that get gone these days. To the pessimism on Wall Street that has put the damper on the future of radio." There is more money looking for stations than there are stations for sale. That usually means an increased price. Clear Channel felt the market was undervaluing its assets and cash flow, so they are going private. Univision did the same early this year, for over $12 billion. Station prices for decent facilities have shown no erosion, as proven by the Clear Channel and CBS spin-offs. Yes, and when the market is "undervaluing" your assets and cash flow, that's always a good sign....lol This is what has been called the "Viacom Syndrome" where an entire industry was punished on the Street for the problems of one company in the sector. Viacom recognized it two years ago and split into two parts; others have gone private as the value is there, based on revenues and cash flow or profits, but the market is undervaluing the issues... a perfect time for private equity to get something for less than it is worth.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yup, the Street is punishing broadcast radio for the HD Radio farce. Eduardo is really a shill for the corporate media conglomerates. It's pretty obvious what his agenda is here. It seems that I was pointing the vapid stupidity of many of the hosts not to mention the lack of quality programs on the corporate FM jukeboxes. If you want to listen to real radio, find a station that is locally owned and operated not some overpriced corporate jukebox owned by Entercom, Clear Channel, etc. When I make a reference to Memphis it's one of the better ethnic music cities where LOCALLY owned stations generally exist with local DJs and local people. Not some satellite feed from some Ivory tower place in NYC or some other major metro. Ever notice that in many places overseas, they don't have the media concentration we have in the US. I'm not talking about governments controlling broadcasting, I am talking about locally owned stations in the Carribean, Europe, and other countries. Not this corpratized crap that they call radio in the US. |
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message . net... "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 8:50 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message ups.com... Radio Sold Its Soul "Wall Street has soured on radio. How many investment banks still actually have a full-time analyst watching this segment? Look to the falling price of properties. To the few radio deals that get gone these days. To the pessimism on Wall Street that has put the damper on the future of radio." There is more money looking for stations than there are stations for sale. That usually means an increased price. Clear Channel felt the market was undervaluing its assets and cash flow, so they are going private. Univision did the same early this year, for over $12 billion. Station prices for decent facilities have shown no erosion, as proven by the Clear Channel and CBS spin-offs. Going private is a retreat strategy - Wall Street has smelled out HD Radio. CC has gone from a high of $90 to a low of $30/share. Broadcast radio is dying and HD wil l ust accelerate its death. HD has nothing to do with radio stock prices... the investment per station is a tiny drop in corporate capex budgets (we spent about 10 times more in LA for one morning show studio than putting HD on 5 signals). Many stocks were very high in 1999 (when CCU peaked in the 80's) and have never recovered after the dot com crash... it has to do with the markets, not the companies. Going private is a future strategy: buy now, when the market undervalues, and in 3 to 6 years, go public again based on value and profits. If you had solid profits and earnings from your operations, your company could outpace the market. Look at the oil and gas monopolies. |
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On Sep 24, 10:27 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 8:50 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message roups.com... Radio Sold Its Soul "Wall Street has soured on radio. How many investment banks still actually have a full-time analyst watching this segment? Look to the falling price of properties. To the few radio deals that get gone these days. To the pessimism on Wall Street that has put the damper on the future of radio." There is more money looking for stations than there are stations for sale. That usually means an increased price. Clear Channel felt the market was undervaluing its assets and cash flow, so they are going private. Univision did the same early this year, for over $12 billion. Station prices for decent facilities have shown no erosion, as proven by the Clear Channel and CBS spin-offs. Yes, and when the market is "undervaluing" your assets and cash flow, that's always a good sign....lol This is what has been called the "Viacom Syndrome" where an entire industry was punished on the Street for the problems of one company in the sector. Viacom recognized it two years ago and split into two parts; others have gone private as the value is there, based on revenues and cash flow or profits, but the market is undervaluing the issues... a perfect time for private equity to get something for less than it is worth.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It has also been called "self-deception" and "inability to cope with reality". |
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On Sep 24, 10:54 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"IBOCcrock" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 8:50 am, "David Eduardo" wrote: "IBOCcrock" wrote in message roups.com... Radio Sold Its Soul "Wall Street has soured on radio. How many investment banks still actually have a full-time analyst watching this segment? Look to the falling price of properties. To the few radio deals that get gone these days. To the pessimism on Wall Street that has put the damper on the future of radio." There is more money looking for stations than there are stations for sale. That usually means an increased price. Clear Channel felt the market was undervaluing its assets and cash flow, so they are going private. Univision did the same early this year, for over $12 billion. Station prices for decent facilities have shown no erosion, as proven by the Clear Channel and CBS spin-offs. Going private is a retreat strategy - Wall Street has smelled out HD Radio. CC has gone from a high of $90 to a low of $30/share. Broadcast radio is dying and HD wil l ust accelerate its death. HD has nothing to do with radio stock prices... the investment per station is a tiny drop in corporate capex budgets (we spent about 10 times more in LA for one morning show studio than putting HD on 5 signals). Many stocks were very high in 1999 (when CCU peaked in the 80's) and have never recovered after the dot com crash... it has to do with the markets, not the companies. Going private is a future strategy: buy now, when the market undervalues, and in 3 to 6 years, go public again based on value and profits.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Except when it's a form of retreat. |
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"Billy Smith" wrote in message ... - If you want to listen to real radio, find a station that is locally owned and operated not some overpriced corporate jukebox owned by Entercom, Clear Channel, etc. When I make a reference to Memphis it's one of the better ethnic music cities where LOCALLY owned stations generally exist with local DJs and local people. Not some satellite feed from some Ivory tower place in NYC or some other major metro. Neither Memphis nor Chicago have a higher percentage of locally owned stations than the average for markets their size. In fact, both are among the lowest. Ever notice that in many places overseas, they don't have the media concentration we have in the US. I'm not talking about governments controlling broadcasting, I am talking about locally owned stations in the Carribean, Europe, and other countries. Not this corpratized crap that they call radio in the US. Caribbean? Most Jamaican radio is controlled by two entities. Groups own multiple stations in the Dominican Republic. In Puerto Rico, consolidation is greater than most of the US, as nearly all stations are networked. The Lesser Antilles are so small that there is not much to compare with. Colombia has 3 companies controlling 80% of the stations and was consolidated since the late 50's, and Venezuela is similar. Central America has been consolidated since the 60's. In South America, most of the countries have national networks, owned by one company that runs multiple networks... one Chilean company has 5 national networks from Arica to Punta Arenas. In Europe, much if not most radio is networked nationally. In Spain, SER has 5 or 6 national nets with as many as 180 stations and low power repeaters on each; Germany, France, Italy, Hungary, etc., have highly consolidated national nets. |
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"Billy Smith" wrote in message ... Going private is a future strategy: buy now, when the market undervalues, and in 3 to 6 years, go public again based on value and profits. If you had solid profits and earnings from your operations, your company could outpace the market. Look at the oil and gas monopolies. The company I am with outpaces the market, had solid profits and a double digit growth rate. In fact, the TV side has just had several consecutive weekly Nielsen wins as the #1 national network in 18-34. The market was undervaluing us because of the Viacom Syndrome and going private was a shrewd investment for those who bought the company. They acquired a profitable, growing enterprise at a low multiple of earnings. |
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On Sep 24, 12:03 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Billy Smith" wrote in message ... - If you want to listen to real radio, find a station that is locally owned and operated not some overpriced corporate jukebox owned by Entercom, Clear Channel, etc. When I make a reference to Memphis it's one of the better ethnic music cities where LOCALLY owned stations generally exist with local DJs and local people. Not some satellite feed from some Ivory tower place in NYC or some other major metro. Neither Memphis nor Chicago have a higher percentage of locally owned stations than the average for markets their size. In fact, both are among the lowest. According to the NAB they do. |
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On Sep 24, 12:07 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Billy Smith" wrote in message ... Going private is a future strategy: buy now, when the market undervalues, and in 3 to 6 years, go public again based on value and profits. If you had solid profits and earnings from your operations, your company could outpace the market. Look at the oil and gas monopolies. The company I am with outpaces the market, had solid profits and a double digit growth rate. So did Enron. In fact, the TV side has just had several consecutive weekly Nielsen wins as the #1 national network in 18-34. The market was undervaluing us because of the Viacom Syndrome and going private was a shrewd investment for those who bought the company. They acquired a profitable, growing enterprise at a low multiple of earnings. Sounds like you'd better contact Arthur Andersen for some 'creative' accounting. |
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"Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 12:03 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Billy Smith" wrote in message ... - If you want to listen to real radio, find a station that is locally owned and operated not some overpriced corporate jukebox owned by Entercom, Clear Channel, etc. When I make a reference to Memphis it's one of the better ethnic music cities where LOCALLY owned stations generally exist with local DJs and local people. Not some satellite feed from some Ivory tower place in NYC or some other major metro. Neither Memphis nor Chicago have a higher percentage of locally owned stations than the average for markets their size. In fact, both are among the lowest. According to the NAB they do. NAB does not maintain lists of radio stations or a database. Per BIA, both of these markets are as highly consolidated as any. |
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On Sep 24, 2:18 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 12:03 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Billy Smith" wrote in message ... - If you want to listen to real radio, find a station that is locally owned and operated not some overpriced corporate jukebox owned by Entercom, Clear Channel, etc. When I make a reference to Memphis it's one of the better ethnic music cities where LOCALLY owned stations generally exist with local DJs and local people. Not some satellite feed from some Ivory tower place in NYC or some other major metro. Neither Memphis nor Chicago have a higher percentage of locally owned stations than the average for markets their size. In fact, both are among the lowest. According to the NAB they do. NAB does not maintain lists of radio stations or a database. Per BIA, both of these markets are as highly consolidated as any.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You'd better contact NAB and inform them of this. They appear to believe otherwise. |
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"Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 3:56 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ups.com... You'd better contact NAB and inform them of this. They appear to believe otherwise. So where on the NAB website is the station database located? Who said it was on the website? And why are you asking me about NAB? Ask them yourself. The NAB neither posts nor maintains a database itself. It uses the BIA database or the FCC online data. Same as I do. |
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David Frackelton Gleason, who spent yet another day trying to convince folks that he's 'Eduardo', wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 3:56 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ups.com... You'd better contact NAB and inform them of this. They appear to believe otherwise. So where on the NAB website is the station database located? Who said it was on the website? And why are you asking me about NAB? Ask them yourself. The NAB neither posts nor maintains a database itself. It uses the BIA database or the FCC online data. Same as I do. Sure didn't do you any good the other day. You went merrily along thinking that WHAN was axually operating on 650 kHz. I certainly did LMFAO. dxAce Michigan USA |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, who spent yet another day trying to convince folks that he's 'Eduardo', wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 3:56 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ups.com... You'd better contact NAB and inform them of this. They appear to believe otherwise. So where on the NAB website is the station database located? Who said it was on the website? And why are you asking me about NAB? Ask them yourself. The NAB neither posts nor maintains a database itself. It uses the BIA database or the FCC online data. Same as I do. Sure didn't do you any good the other day. You went merrily along thinking that WHAN was axually operating on 650 kHz. I said the database showed a CP. Not being in Virginia, I have no way of knowing if a CP is on. There are 1100 active CPs, many of which _are_ on but have not yet been licensed. A CP may take years from the time it goes on to the time it is licensed. As mentioned, I believe the record is for WISN in Milwaukee, at nearly two decades for its night CP in the 60's and 70's, |
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On Sep 24, 7:14 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 3:56 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message roups.com... You'd better contact NAB and inform them of this. They appear to believe otherwise. So where on the NAB website is the station database located? Who said it was on the website? And why are you asking me about NAB? Ask them yourself. The NAB neither posts nor maintains a database itself. It uses the BIA database or the FCC online data. Same as I do. Well you'd better inform them of that fact. |
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"Steve" wrote in message ps.com... On Sep 24, 7:14 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 3:56 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message roups.com... You'd better contact NAB and inform them of this. They appear to believe otherwise. So where on the NAB website is the station database located? Who said it was on the website? And why are you asking me about NAB? Ask them yourself. The NAB neither posts nor maintains a database itself. It uses the BIA database or the FCC online data. Same as I do. Well you'd better inform them of that fact. Of what fact? |
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On Sep 24, 7:35 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, who spent yet another day trying to convince folks that he's 'Eduardo', wrote: "Steve" wrote in message roups.com... On Sep 24, 3:56 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message roups.com... You'd better contact NAB and inform them of this. They appear to believe otherwise. So where on the NAB website is the station database located? Who said it was on the website? And why are you asking me about NAB? Ask them yourself. The NAB neither posts nor maintains a database itself. It uses the BIA database or the FCC online data. Same as I do. Sure didn't do you any good the other day. You went merrily along thinking that WHAN was axually operating on 650 kHz. I said the database showed a CP. Not being in Virginia, I have no way of knowing if a CP is on. There are 1100 active CPs, many of which _are_ on but have not yet been licensed. A CP may take years from the time it goes on to the time it is licensed. As mentioned, I believe the record is for WISN in Milwaukee, at nearly two decades for its night CP in the 60's and 70's,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Do your homework first, then speak. It is a simple lesson. You would do well to learn it. |
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David Frackelton Gleason, who just can't help himself, and continues to pose as 'Eduardo', wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, who spent yet another day trying to convince folks that he's 'Eduardo', wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 3:56 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ups.com... You'd better contact NAB and inform them of this. They appear to believe otherwise. So where on the NAB website is the station database located? Who said it was on the website? And why are you asking me about NAB? Ask them yourself. The NAB neither posts nor maintains a database itself. It uses the BIA database or the FCC online data. Same as I do. Sure didn't do you any good the other day. You went merrily along thinking that WHAN was axually operating on 650 kHz. I said the database showed a CP. Yeah, after I pointed that out, you did indeed back-track! Not being in Virginia, I have no way of knowing if a CP is on. You have no way of knowing much of anything. But you sure can make stuff up! There are 1100 active CPs, many of which _are_ on but have not yet been licensed. A CP may take years from the time it goes on to the time it is licensed. As mentioned, I believe the record is for WISN in Milwaukee, at nearly two decades for its night CP in the 60's and 70's, You're setting your own record for being a pathological liar! dxAce Michigan USA |
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"Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 7:35 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: Do your homework first, then speak. It is a simple lesson. You would do well to learn it. Even the FCC site does not show CPs that have been activated... the CP designation disappears when the CP is licensed. |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, who just can't help himself, and continues to pose as There are 1100 active CPs, many of which _are_ on but have not yet been licensed. A CP may take years from the time it goes on to the time it is licensed. As mentioned, I believe the record is for WISN in Milwaukee, at nearly two decades for its night CP in the 60's and 70's, You're setting your own record for being a pathological liar! So you are saying that there are not, as of today at close of business at the FCC, 1159 CPs for new stations or changes in facilities, both commercial and non-com, AM and FM? Or that there are 397 AM CPs that are not yet licensed? Or are you saying that a CP can be on the air for years before it is licensed (or amended) before it is licensed? Or both? |
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David Frackelton Gleason, who must've had his feelings hurt real bad to have to pose as 'Eduardo', wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 7:35 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: Do your homework first, then speak. It is a simple lesson. You would do well to learn it. Even the FCC site does not show CPs that have been activated... the CP designation disappears when the CP is licensed. So? You acted as though it was on. It wasn't. I'm happy though to have pointed it out to you, and to even go to the trouble of axually contacting the station itself. Get over it, oh faux one. dxAce Michigan USA |
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David Eduardo wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... David Frackelton Gleason, who just can't help himself, and continues to pose as There are 1100 active CPs, many of which _are_ on but have not yet been licensed. A CP may take years from the time it goes on to the time it is licensed. As mentioned, I believe the record is for WISN in Milwaukee, at nearly two decades for its night CP in the 60's and 70's, You're setting your own record for being a pathological liar! So you are saying that there are not, as of today at close of business at the FCC, 1159 CPs for new stations or changes in facilities, both commercial and non-com, AM and FM? Or that there are 397 AM CPs that are not yet licensed? What does that have to do with your original screw-up? Or are you saying that a CP can be on the air for years before it is licensed (or amended) before it is licensed? What does that have to do with your original screw-up? Or both? What does that have to do with your original screw-up? You're mentally ill, Edweenie! |
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On Sep 24, 7:43 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message ps.com... On Sep 24, 7:14 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message roups.com... On Sep 24, 3:56 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: "Steve" wrote in message roups.com... You'd better contact NAB and inform them of this. They appear to believe otherwise. So where on the NAB website is the station database located? Who said it was on the website? And why are you asking me about NAB? Ask them yourself. The NAB neither posts nor maintains a database itself. It uses the BIA database or the FCC online data. Same as I do. Well you'd better inform them of that fact. Of what fact?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You'd better inform them that, despite their belief to the contrary, they do not maintain such a database. |
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"dxAce" wrote in message ... What does that have to do with your original screw-up? The Ashland station is listed as a CP. Or are you saying that a CP can be on the air for years before it is licensed (or amended) before it is licensed? What does that have to do with your original screw-up? The Ashland station is listed as a CP Or both? What does that have to do with your original screw-up? Again, the Ashland station is listed as a CP on 650. Even if the 1430 facility continues to operate, stations changing frequency commonly run the new facility way before changing over to do field strength readings (it's directional) and to test equipment. So, when looking at what is authorized for 650, the VA station is definitely a possibility until proven that it is either not built or was not on the air at the time. |
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On Sep 24, 7:45 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 24, 7:35 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote: Do your homework first, then speak. It is a simple lesson. You would do well to learn it. Even the FCC site does not show CPs that have been activated... the CP designation disappears when the CP is licensed. Perhaps you should consult sources that *do* contain the information you want. |
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"Steve" wrote in message ups.com... You'd better inform them that, despite their belief to the contrary, they do not maintain such a database. They have a membership database, but buy BIA for a full, daily updated, database of radio and TV stations. They are listed as such on the BIA web page. |
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dxAcehole, Creator of the Universe and Supreme Commander United Militias
(S.C.U.M.) wrote: Sure didn't do you any good the other day. You went merrily along thinking that WHAN was axually operating on 650 kHz. Axually it isn't, you master of the English Language and knower of all things... mike |
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David Frackelton Gleason, who proves most every day that he's mentally ill and poses as 'Eduardo', wrote: "dxAce" wrote in message ... What does that have to do with your original screw-up? The Ashland station is listed as a CP. Are you still back-tracking? Get over it, Mo Faux. dxAce Michigan USA |
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David Frackelton Gleason, the Mo Faux who poses as 'Eduardo', wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ups.com... You'd better inform them that, despite their belief to the contrary, they do not maintain such a database. They have a membership database, but buy BIA for a full, daily updated, database of radio and TV stations. Even the ones that you 'think' are on the air! LMFAO dxAce Michigan USA |
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dxAcehole, The Boss of G_d and Supreme Commander United Militias
(S.C.U.M.) wrote: You're mentally ill, Edweenie! How's the weapon collection Ace? Still hiding the ammo next to the moonshine storage? You of all people calling others ill. It's surprising the FBI haven't dragged you sorry backside off to the asylum. They should, based on your profile alone. mike |
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m II wrote: dxAcehole, Creator of the Universe and Supreme Commander United Militias (S.C.U.M.) wrote: Sure didn't do you any good the other day. You went merrily along thinking that WHAN was axually operating on 650 kHz. Axually it isn't, you master of the English Language and knower of all things... Bulletinese... dxAce Michigan USA |
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I'm a logging camp prostute II wrote: dxAcehole, The Boss of G_d and Supreme Commander United Militias (S.C.U.M.) wrote: You're mentally ill, Edweenie! How's the weapon collection Ace? Still hiding the ammo next to the moonshine storage? You of all people calling others ill. It's surprising the FBI haven't dragged you sorry backside off to the asylum. They should, based on your profile alone. Your profile is that of the typical dumbass Canuck! dxAce Michigan USA |
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