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On Oct 9, 10:08 am, SFTV_troy wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Oct 4, 7:25 am, SFTV_troy wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Oct 3, 5:02 am, wrote:


- You are dumb. DRM has a hybrid digital/analog mode.
- See this manual, page 20. Notice how the DRM sits
- "in-band on-channel" same as the HD Radio works.
-www.drm.org/pdfs/Broadcast_Manual.pdf


- - But presenetly the majority of DRM Broadcasting on the
- - Shortwave Radios is Pure {100%} DRM "Digital" and it
- - Trashes 20 kHz of Bandwidth around it and makes good
- - old AM Analog Shortwave Broadcasting very hard to Hear.
-
- Well what the heck do you expect from an IBOC format???
- (Yes you heard right; IBOC.)


SFTV - Spoken like a 'true' "Hybrid Digital" Man ! ~ RHF
- - - Clearly Digital "Hash" has had it's 'effect' on you. ;-}


Please Understand that a Pure {100%} DRM "Digital" Signal;
which the majority of DRM Shortwave Broadcasting 'is' - Is a
Single Signal and hence can not be consider IBOC. They do
NOT Transmit any Analog along with the DRM Digital Signal.


- Neither does HD Radio you stupid dog-****ing idiot.
- I am sick and tgired of tlaking to asswhokle like ytou .s yogu
- sutpiodk fudge0- pioamncing bastaredd.

SFTV - Spoken like a 'true' "Hybrid Digital" Man ! ~ RHF

-Once Again- Clearly Digital "Hash" has had it's 'effect' on you. ;-}

-wrt- "Dog-****ing" Please don't express your Sexual Fantasies
on this Shortwave Radio Newsgroup - They Are Clealy Off-Topic.

-and- yes i am an 'idiot' who loves
to listen to free over-the-air radio ~ RHF
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On Oct 9, 10:13 am, SFTV_troy wrote:
Hein ten Horn wrote:
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Okay. By that reasoning, because HD Radio sits "next to" the AM
signal, then it is not IBOC either. It is a simulcast format.
Do you agree with that statement?


As a whole? No.


- There is no technical difference.
- Both HD radio and DRM operate on the same principles:
- 2 separate signals
- 1 analog
- 1 digital
- the digital is simulcast "next to" the original analog signal

SFTV -aka- "Hybrid Digital" Man,

Once Again the Key Word Being : "Intrinsic"
http://www.answers.com/intrinsic&r=67

iBquity's IBOC Broadcast System is 'Intrinsic'

DRM's Simulcast Broadcast Scheme is NOT 'Intrinsic'

yes it is that simple ~ RHF
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In article om,
SFTV_troy wrote:

Steven wrote:
He isn't using a No. 2 pencil so the entire test is INVALID.



Hey look!!!! A two-year-old wittle baby boyee!!! He hasn't learned
manners yet.


Looks like its time to up the Prozac dosage.

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David Eduardo wrote:
"SFTV_troy" wrote in message

There is no technical difference. Both HD radio and DRM operate on
the same principles:
- 2 separate signals
- 1 analog
- 1 digital
- the digital is simulcast "next to" the original analog signal


No, DRM is 100% digital. To run analog simultaneously you need a separate
frequency. Some testing is being done, like that in Mexico, by placing the
DRM signal on the adjacent AM channel... a station on 1060 is going to have
DRM on 1070.


And I repeat:

HD radio works the same way. The digital signal sits *next to* the
station at 1070.

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On Oct 9, 9:10 pm, Telamon
wrote:
SFTV_troy wrote:
Steven wrote:





He isn't using a No. 2 pencil so the entire test is INVALID.


Hey look!!!! A two-year-old wittle baby boyee!!! He
hasn't learned manners yet.


Looks like its time to up the Prozac dosage.



Time to pick-out your coffin, and crawl in. The world will be a
better place without assholes like yourself.







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RHF wrote:
On Oct 9, 10:13 am, SFTV_troy wrote:
Hein ten Horn wrote:
wrote:


Okay. By that reasoning, because HD Radio sits "next to" the AM
signal, then it is not IBOC either. It is a simulcast format.
Do you agree with that statement?


As a whole? No.


- There is no technical difference.
- Both HD radio and DRM operate on the same principles:
- 2 separate signals
- 1 analog
- 1 digital
- the digital is simulcast "next to" the original analog signal


iBquity's IBOC Broadcast System is 'Intrinsic'
DRM's Simulcast Broadcast Scheme is NOT 'Intrinsic'





That distinction is more about FAITH, than reality. There's no real
difference between DRM's version (sitting next-to the AM signal) and
HD's version (also sitting next-to the AM signal).

Neither sits their digital signal on-top of the AM!
That would not work.
Duh.

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On Oct 11, 5:45 am, SFTV_troy wrote:
On Oct 9, 9:10 pm, Telamon
wrote:

SFTV_troy wrote:
Steven wrote:


He isn't using a No. 2 pencil so the entire test is INVALID.


Hey look!!!! A two-year-old wittle baby boyee!!! He
hasn't learned manners yet.


Looks like its time to up the Prozac dosage.


- Time to pick-out your coffin, and crawl in. The world
- will be a better place without assholes like yourself.

SFTV - Please Take Your Own Advise First as a Demostration
of Commitment to Your Own Words. {Walk-the-Talk} ~ RHF
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On Oct 11, 5:43 am, SFTV_troy wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:
"SFTV_troy" wrote in message


There is no technical difference. Both HD radio and DRM operate on
the same principles:
- 2 separate signals
- 1 analog
- 1 digital
- the digital is simulcast "next to" the original analog signal


No, DRM is 100% digital. To run analog simultaneously you need a separate
frequency. Some testing is being done, like that in Mexico, by placing the
DRM signal on the adjacent AM channel... a station on 1060 is going to have
DRM on 1070.


And I repeat:


- HD radio works the same way.
- The digital signal sits *next to* the station at 1070.

SFTV,

BLATANTLY TECNICALLY WRONG ARE YOU SURE YOU ARE AN "EE" ?

us lesser being would like proof ~ RHF
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On Oct 11, 5:48 am, SFTV_troy wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Oct 9, 10:13 am, SFTV_troy wrote:
Hein ten Horn wrote:
wrote:


Okay. By that reasoning, because HD Radio sits "next to" the AM
signal, then it is not IBOC either. It is a simulcast format.
Do you agree with that statement?


As a whole? No.


- There is no technical difference.
- Both HD radio and DRM operate on the same principles:
- 2 separate signals
- 1 analog
- 1 digital
- the digital is simulcast "next to" the original analog signal


iBquity's IBOC Broadcast System is 'Intrinsic'
DRM's Simulcast Broadcast Scheme is NOT 'Intrinsic'



- That distinction is more about FAITH, than reality.

- There's no real difference between DRM's version
- (sitting next-to the AM signal) and HD's version
- (also sitting next-to the AM signal).

SFTV,

BLATANTLY TECNICALLY WRONG !
ARE YOU SURE YOU ARE AN "EE" ?

us lesser being would like proof ~ RHF
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In article .com,
SFTV_troy wrote:

On Oct 9, 9:10 pm, Telamon
wrote:
SFTV_troy wrote:
Steven wrote:





He isn't using a No. 2 pencil so the entire test is INVALID.


Hey look!!!! A two-year-old wittle baby boyee!!! He
hasn't learned manners yet.


Looks like its time to up the Prozac dosage.



Time to pick-out your coffin, and crawl in. The world will be a
better place without assholes like yourself.


You must have taken your meds today. Nice to see you calmed down a bit.

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